User Profile: HarryPotter


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  • [24] November 25, 2015 at 4:42pm

    Unfortunately Marco, we have this thing called the Constitution which governs laws in this country. If you want your religious text and religious beliefs to govern your nations laws, you should move to Iran.

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  • [-2] November 24, 2015 at 6:24pm

    Again, you are blatantly lying about what I have said. Please read back through this thread. I never said Jesus supported gay marriage, I said he never said anything about it. I also have not changed or abandoned any positions, just tried to follow your twisted reasonings as you ignored my arguments and focused on minor details.

    Again, yoy still have not answered why the rules you like still apply and the ones you dislike do not apply. You can’t have it both ways.

    My goal is to get you to stop sinning and to love and embrace your gay brothers and sisters as Jesus commanded.

    I don’t have time to read through that now. But I will save it for later. Thank you for posting. i can’t comment on it at the moment.

    I am done here for now. I doubt I’ll be back to comment on this article, so have a Happy Thanksgiving everyone, and please try to learn to love and accept everyone, even gay people. Try to recognize and move past your biases. God loves everyone, you can too.

  • [-2] November 24, 2015 at 5:33pm

    None of that has been my argument. I have never said or even implied anything of the sort. Please stop lying and actually read what I have written.

  • [-4] November 24, 2015 at 5:24pm

    God didn’t write the Bible. But the Bible is also very clear that women without head coverings are sinful, that shaving is sinful, but slavery is okay as long as you follow certain guidelines. It’s a good thing we don’t follow those rules.

    I am agnostic. That means I neither believe nor disbelieve. There isn’t proof one way or another, so I live my life as best I can, and don’t worry about what higher powers there may be. I was raised Christian and have many Christian friends, so I am still very familiar with the Bible and Christian teachings. And yes, I do believe that the anti-gay side will spin and twist the words of the Bible to suit their own objectives. I try to correct them.

  • [-2] November 24, 2015 at 5:05pm

    I’ve been very clear in my comments to you. If you still are having difficulty comprehending my posts, please ask for help. I can’t assist you when you post nothing but childish insults and the same question I already answered over and over.

  • [-2] November 24, 2015 at 4:51pm

    So we need to use cultural context to understand that rule, and it doesn’t apply to modern Christians? Good, now apply that logic to the verses often cited to condemn gay marriage and homosexuality.

    Gay marriage was not around in Jesus’ time because homosexuality as a concept was not yet around. That would be like asking why Jesus didn’t speak about the Internet. In the time of Jesus, Israel was within the Roman Empire. In the Roman Empire, it was commonplace for men to marry women and still have sex with slaves, prostitutes, other women and men. The Bible speaks about the sanctity of marriage, honoring your spouse. So rules you see that speak of male-male sex refer to sex outside of marriage. They do not refer to gay marriages, which weren’t around back then. 50 years ago bigots and racists tried to twist the words of the Bible to condemn interracial marriage, they said Jesus would have opposed it. Today, we see the same twisting of scripture, the same bigotry used to try and stop a different type of loving unions.

  • [-1] November 24, 2015 at 4:29pm

    I’ve already very clearly answered your question. I see no need to do so again. If you don’t understand still, ask for clarification. But I’m not going to keep repeating myself.

  • [-1] November 24, 2015 at 4:17pm

    I guess you can’t find my earlier response. I’ve copied it below for you, since I have already answered you.

    Perhaps I wasn’t clear. I wasn’t saying that Jesus listed other forms of marriage, I was saying that he listed one acceptable form, and that others could still be acceptable. He never said anything about gay marriage, interfaith marriage, interracial marriage, polygamy, etc.

  • [-2] November 24, 2015 at 4:01pm

    Once again you are trying to put false arguments in my mouth. I never said Jesus must have supported gay marriage. I only said he never said anything against it. You are trying to claim that because Jesus didn’t specifically say it was good, that he must have disapproved. You are the one making the fallacious argument here. Jesus said nothing on homosexuality of gay marriage. We do not know his stance. Neither of us can claim otherwise. And if you speak Ancient Greek, you must be aware of the problem of defining certain words and the constant scholarly debate on what certain words mean. And I only “go through this routine” each time because you (and others) keep making the same arguments, and I have to keep correcting you.

    I already answered your latest question very clearly. Please look back up to see.

  • [-1] November 24, 2015 at 3:45pm

    If God made me, God made me gay. There was no choice to be had there.

    I would say that the anti-gay side is misrepresenting the words of the Bible (again, written by man). There are rules in the Bible that you ignore everyday which are so much clearer than anything you quote to me. I know when I sin too, but being gay is not a sin. Being gay is not a choice. If being gay is sinful, so are women who speak in church. If being gay is a choice, so is being tall. I already know the truth, I am here to help bring it to some of you. But you can only lead a horse to water…

    True, I am agnostic. But I do have friends who are both gay and Christian. You can be both. The Holy Ghost is in all of us by the way, perhaps you should let go of your hatred and bigotry and accept it. And what you said about women in church is not found in the Bible. That has been my point. You are explaining away a very clear Biblical rule, and refusing to use the same concept of context for rules on gays. You don’t get to have it both ways. I would agree, women speaking in church are not sinful. But neither are loving gay couples.

  • [-3] November 24, 2015 at 3:30pm

    Perhaps I wasn’t clear. I wasn’t saying that Jesus listed other forms of marriage, I was saying that he listed one acceptable form, and that others could still be acceptable. He never said anything about gay marriage, interfaith marriage, interracial marriage, polygamy, etc. I also like how you said Acts was clear, and then quote other books. But the Corinthians and Romans verses you mention are not clear for a few reasons. First, as you said there was no word for homosexual when the Bible was written. That leaves us today to try and guess at the intentions of the men who initially wrote it. The words used are often debated today as to what the modern equivalent would be. That is why different versions have different wordings, and not all versions are presented as you quoted. Indeed, even today, the concept of sodomite is not clear. Does it include oral sex? Any sex not specifically for procreation? On the other hand, the rules on women speaking in church and wearing head coverings are much clearer.

  • [2] November 24, 2015 at 3:20pm

    I absolutely agree. And thank you for the polite exchange we had here today.

  • [-1] November 24, 2015 at 3:11pm

    When have I ever said that Christians were bad, or that all homosexuals were good?

  • [-6] November 24, 2015 at 3:03pm

    Being gay IS the terms that the lord has given. The lord made us gay. Gay Christians I think it is the anti-gay side that wants to change the lord’s design. To stop people from being the way he intended.

    Your blatant lies are not even worth responding to.

  • [-9] November 24, 2015 at 2:52pm

    And as I have responded to you on this multiple times, first, Jesus offered one acceptable form of marriage. He never said anything about homosexuality or gay marriage. Second, the book of Acts is far from clear on homosexuality. And third, if only the New Testament laws apply, then why do the laws on women speaking in church and wearing head coverings, etc not still apply. You aren’t being consistent. You are still picking and choosing which verses to follow.

  • [-6] November 24, 2015 at 2:44pm

    Please read through the rest of the thread before commenting. I have already responded to that.

  • [-4] November 24, 2015 at 2:39pm

    You are making assumptions which are absolutely not true for any of the gay Christians I know. And what about female Christians who speak in church or do not wear head coverings? Are they not putting their desires before God?

  • [-4] November 24, 2015 at 2:31pm

    So everyone knows, the rule on women speaking in church is from the New Testament. And I still haven’t gotten a proper answer. How do we tell which Biblical laws we still need to follow, and which we can ignore? You all seem very certain that the laws I posted no longer apply, but the laws on homosexuality do.

  • [-10] November 24, 2015 at 2:17pm

    I’d say that’s exactly what those anti-gay people are doing, trying to twist the words of the Bible to call a loving adult relationship sinful.

  • [-2] November 24, 2015 at 2:13pm

    How do you tell which is which? And how do you know which rules still apply?

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