That’s a highly philosophical question. I don’t want to get into it, but here’s a question for you to think about. If a different culture deems women inferior and says they shouldn’t be able to vote, are those cultures wrong?
So you shout that I’m stupid and wrong, don’t give any reasons or evidence as to why, and then say I didn’t answer a question that I already did. Nice. Read my last comment on here in full.
I passed a sex shop geared to straight people just on a regular street in my city yesterday. Imagine passing that while out with the family. All straight people must be degenerates.
[-14] February 9, 2016 at 1:40pm
Being gay isn’t really a problem at all. It’s just a small part of who we are. And this country doesn’t really run on Biblical values. There are no rules against eating shellfish, or making women wear head coverings, etc. and that whole freedom of religion thing kind of throws the whole Bible centered thing out the window. Gays also contribute the same things to society as straights. Just so you know.
If you can’t tell the different between a consenting adult relationship and child rape, that says a lot about you. One has nothing to do with the other. Gay sex is also no more dangerous or damaging than straight sex. And 99.9999999999% of straight sex doesn’t produce offspring either. Of course, sex isn’t even needed at all to produce offspring anymore…
[-28] February 9, 2016 at 1:05pm
Being gay is a sexual orientation, not a lifestyle, and definitly not a choice. It is no more sexual or lustful than being straight is. And just as loving as being straight too.
[-16] February 9, 2016 at 1:02pm
Now imagine if he said that he respected others, but didn’t believe that interracial couples should be able to marry. Or that women should be able to vote. Sorry Rubio, but we have marriage equality now. And it’s here to stay.
Sorry. Fail. Not even a comparison. A black man and a white woman, or a black woman and a white man I have absolutely no problem with. In fact, I have black friends that get so pissed off and offended when you gays compare what they have gone through to your deviant life choices. It's a BS argument and you should stop using it. It's very offensive.
So what, did he not say "people have the right to live as they chose, did he not tell the homosexual "you can live any way you want"...?! The truth of the matter is...you hate that Rubio, and others, embrace a traditional view of marriage...too bad, society does not have to rubber-stamp your "sexual orientation"...get over yourself.
A man of any race that marries a woman of another race is NOT the same as a man and a man.
No, we do not have marriage equality when numerous relationship modes are being discriminated against.
I disagree on how that all happened - Marriage is not a federal issue it's a state issue - when you get married you don't get a federal license you get it from the state you are in and all states recognize it - so, it should have been done through the states not federal that's where the problem is. We should have had it done that way rather than having appointed judges make the rules - I don't foresee it sticking because those judges only live so long and they can overturn it with new judges.
I'm curious HairyPorthole....how many of your homosexual buddies are HIV positive, have died of AIDS, have Syphilis or Gonorrhea or are dealing with serious colorectal issues as a result of what you maintain is normal sex and how many heterosexual people in interracial relationships are dealing with the same health problems because of their sex practices?
Avenger, boldly asking what the rest of us were wondering and being just a notch too polite to put in print. Good on you!!
[-1] February 5, 2016 at 2:24pm
Ok, but that doesn’t have anything to do with being gay. Being gay isn’t a choice, and isn’t any more self-serving than being straight.
I may not be a Christian, but I can read. I grew up Christian, I have read the Bible. Your beliefs don’t change the facts.
[-3] February 5, 2016 at 1:46pm
And here’s Utopia with his usual attempt to say I’m somehow lying or wrong, but as usual is unable to give any evidence as to why.
[-5] February 5, 2016 at 1:20pm
The Bible, which is the word of man, actually does support her assertions of you read it for the overall message and not just to find specific verses to support your bigotry. The Bible is about love, treating others with respect, worshipping God. If you think being gay is sinful because of a couple verses, you must also think women speaking in church is sinful, as is wearing certain clothing.
Here's pooter with his 0.05 cents of mischaracterizations and deceptions.
And here's Utopia with his usual attempt to say I'm somehow lying or wrong, but as usual is unable to give any evidence as to why.
We love the Lord by serving Him. By putting Him ahead of our preferences. Worshiping God is not the third commandment in the Bible. It is the first. We love others and treat others with respect as a result of worshiping the Lord. We all have struggles upon which we must exercise our self-control and our free will. Our choices must reflect that we serve the Lord.
In our frailty we often make choices in which we gladly serve ourselves. And then we try to justify our decisions end solutions as the Lord’s Will in abdication of the precios gift of free will He has given each of us.
This is how we deceive ourselves. We must love and serve our Lord by freely choosing to exercise our will to serve Him within His plan for us. We must forever strive to demonstrate to the Lord that He comes first in every heartbeat of our day that He is ever at the center of our lives.
God bless you and may your ongoing search ultimately and joyously lead you to Him.
Everything else is just doing whatever we want.
The simple fact, pooter, that you are not a Christian and do not believe, and therefore cannot comprehend, that the Bible is the inherent Word of God, yet attempt to dictate to Christians as to what the Bible says and how is is to be defined and applied makes you a, "deceiver".
It's as simple as that, pooter. You can stay in your little pretend fantasy world but don't think that you are on any level an arbiter and decider of what the says and portends.
Ok, but that doesn't have anything to do with being gay. Being gay isn't a choice, and isn't any more self-serving than being straight.
I may not be a Christian, but I can read. I grew up Christian, I have read the Bible. Your beliefs don't change the facts.
You grew up Christian, straw man. So did I and didn't start reading the Bible an applying study methods until much later of in my life.
Your comments alone demonstrate a complete misunderstanding of Biblical precepts and intent, unless its willful deception.
In other words you talk out of your ass so go wipe your mouth.
No doubt, any given behavior is comfortable and unavoidable when it is not perceived as a choice. We must seek to serve the Lord ahead of our desire for comfort.
Once again, everything else is just doing what pleases us.
We will be accountable to the choices we make with our gift of free will.
In the end we will be asked what we did with our free will- albeit rhetorically, no doubt. We don't want to have to say the dog ate it. The time for these choices is now.
That there is no choice in the matter... is the fantastically successful deception. Don't believe it. It is tantamount to - but much better received and accepted- than the flat Earth theory.
I truly hope that you can see it before it's too late to choose.
And it's not the only choice we make – everything is a choice when it comes to serving the Lord who knows exactly what is and what is not within our grasp to understand.
There is true and great comfort and joy to be found in the Lords Will. It's not just a Christmas Carol
I just want to point out how awesome I think it is that in the course of defending his stance on how God is glorified, utopiabuster is calling another guy names.
I apologize for having insulted your obvious delicate sensibilities. I'm sure you would like all your Christians to come with their tail between their legs wrapped with a bow.
Sorry to disappoint! I've got the Bible and one hand and a sword in the other, and nothing in the Bible instructs to have patience with deceivers.
Can't stand the heat either double up on those flame retarding pink panties, or leave my battles for me to win.
So you think it is normal to fudge push. These people are mentally deranged to carry on with this filthy lifestyle ! It is sick that anyone should be forced to do anything for these perverts !
[-4] February 1, 2016 at 2:44pm
I completely agree with this man. Opposition to gay marriage is foolish, and theologically unsound. But this lawsuit is frivolous, and about politics, not equal treatment.
Opposition to the opposition of same sex "marriage" is discriminatory and foolish as this article correctly points out.
really...it couldn't be more clear...
-Leviticus 18:22, "You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination."1
•Leviticus 20:13, "If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death. Their bloodguiltness is upon them."
•1 Corinthians 6:9-10, "Or do you not know that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, 10 nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, shall inherit the kingdom of God."
•Romans 1:26-28, "For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, 27 and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error. 28 And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God any longer, God gave them over to a depraved mind, to do those things which are not proper."
There is absolutely NOTHING equal to the marriage of a man and a woman. Soooo sorry.
 February 1, 2016 at 11:41am
Again, I am only sharing facts with you. I’m sorry the facts do not fit with your beliefs. My knowledge is not the best, but I have only presented the verses at face value. You don’t get to cite some verses for your beliefs and morality while ignoring others.
I won’t get into the mechanics of it all, but I can promise you that there are plenty of parts to work with, and they fit together just fine.
 February 1, 2016 at 11:08am
Everyone alive today has beliefs that differ from the Bible, they either just don’t know or ignore that fact. Do you for instance believe that women should not be permitted to speak in church, or that they must keep their head covered? The Bible has a good overall message, but you can’t base your morality on every verse in there. It’s been too highly edited, was written by men in a different time.
 February 1, 2016 at 11:04am
Yes, Leviticus labels homosexuality an abomination. It also labels eating shellfish an abomination. Jesus didn’t mention either one of those. So did Jesus fulfill both of those, or neither? You can’t pick and choose. Also, gay couples can be married. So married gay couples are fine then.
I do not label myself a Christian, you are right. I would call myself Agnostic, I neither believe nor disbelieve. But I was raised Christian, have read the Bible, and am merely telling you what it says. If you don’t like it, you should do some reflecting on that and not blame the messenger.
[-2] February 1, 2016 at 10:43am
Perhaps you missed the irony….
[-2] February 1, 2016 at 10:38am
1 Corinthians 11:6. 1 Corinthians 14:34. I am just telling you what is called sin in the bible. Don’t blame me if you don’t like it. Sexuality, or sexual orientation is not an action, not a choice. It is attraction, physical, emotional, and spiritual attraction. Understanding differences like this will help you navigate through life.
[-7] February 1, 2016 at 10:14am
Yup. I guess that’s why we refused to legalize interracial marriage nationwide, and left those rights to be voted on by states too, huh?
Was this your attempt at wisdom?
Congrats on failing and showing why America is full of ignorant morons
Perhaps you missed the irony....
LGBTxyz rabbit out of a hat,
The race card.
 February 1, 2016 at 10:13am
Yes, the Bible calls homosexuality just as much of a sin as it does women speaking in church, or not keeping their head covered. Fortunately though, we live in a republic, not a theocracy and everyone has rights which cannot be taken away by a popular vote, or anyone else’s personal beliefs.
Chapter and verse.
New Testament doctrinal acknowledgment of sin never addresses your claim.
Sexuality is not a “right” it is a behavior.
Attraction is inherent. Some say some attraction is abhorrent. But the action is the issue. Understanding these differences will help you as you navigate through life.
1 Corinthians 11:6. 1 Corinthians 14:34. I am just telling you what is called sin in the bible. Don't blame me if you don't like it. Sexuality, or sexual orientation is not an action, not a choice. It is attraction, physical, emotional, and spiritual attraction. Understanding differences like this will help you navigate through life.
actually Harry your wrong. Homosexuality is called an abomination. Jesus came to fulfill the old testament and as such would never contradict it. Any sexual relationship gay or straight outside of a marriage covenant is sin.
This is how you lie, pooter.
You are not a believer. You do not believe the Bible is the unerring Word of God, which the only intention you have is to corrupt it.
Do not bring up scripture unless you first admit you are not a Christian and your views come from a secular perspective.
Regardless of whether we live in a republic or a theocracy, the wording or the meaning expressed in the bible concerning homosexuals. Yes, you have the right to have your own personal beliefs. No one is trying to take that away from you, but if your beliefs differ from the Bible, you need to seriously reconsider your views.There has to be a "baseliine" to judge right from wrong, and the Bible is that baseline. Even though we all have rights, and we all have our personal views, they are many and varied, so if everyone is allowed to say and do what they want based on their own personal views, who determines what is right and what is wrong? The Bible is what determines right and wrong.
Yes, Leviticus labels homosexuality an abomination. It also labels eating shellfish an abomination. Jesus didn't mention either one of those. So did Jesus fulfill both of those, or neither? You can't pick and choose. Also, gay couples can be married. So married gay couples are fine then.
I do not label myself a Christian, you are right. I would call myself Agnostic, I neither believe nor disbelieve. But I was raised Christian, have read the Bible, and am merely telling you what it says. If you don't like it, you should do some reflecting on that and not blame the messenger.
Everyone alive today has beliefs that differ from the Bible, they either just don't know or ignore that fact. Do you for instance believe that women should not be permitted to speak in church, or that they must keep their head covered? The Bible has a good overall message, but you can't base your morality on every verse in there. It's been too highly edited, was written by men in a different time.
You are not are not a Christian and a grown man who should be able to recognize limitations in knowledge.
Your knowledge of scripture and how to study the Bible is inept considering your usual talking points and wrong interpretations.
No, Roncat. The Bible does NOT determine what is right or wrong, unless you VOLOUNTARILY accept it. There is not one word in the Constitution that requires acceptance of the Bible as the arbiter of right and wrong. We have, in the First Amendment, the right to reject Biblical teaching.
look to the private parts. Ones an innee, ones an outtie. figure it out
Again, I am only sharing facts with you. I'm sorry the facts do not fit with your beliefs. My knowledge is not the best, but I have only presented the verses at face value. You don't get to cite some verses for your beliefs and morality while ignoring others.
I won't get into the mechanics of it all, but I can promise you that there are plenty of parts to work with, and they fit together just fine.
You are so right Harry Potter. Everyone has the god given right to free will and as such, you have every right in the world to spend your eternity in Hell separated from your creator. I am so glad that I will not have to suffer your stupidity and ignorance where I believe I am going. Good luck though and I hope it comforts you to think it was your choice.
[-5] January 29, 2016 at 4:56pm
I could spend a very long time dissecting everything that was wrong with your last post, your invented terms, and complete misunderstanding of bigotry. In lieu of that, I’ll just bring up a few quick things. My point about artificial insemination was that it is possible, sexual intercourse is not required to procreate anymore, and this process is getting more common and safe, and more options are coming available as technology progresses. Sex itself can also be dangerous and harmful. Being gay is not a choice. And being gay does not mean I find anything wrong with straight couples, their sexual activities, or their methods for conception.
[-7] January 29, 2016 at 4:16pm
You said that I twisted your words, so I asked you where I had done that. You said others call me a liar so I asked where I had lied. And in your latest post, you ignored all of that and tried to paint me as an ignoramous who didn’t understand basic English. Nice try.
[-9] January 29, 2016 at 3:22pm
Yup, not a bad description. But I would have worded it a bit differently.
First, where have I ever lied or twisted your words? I have only been 100% truthful here, you just want to deny the truth.
Again, sex is not needed for procreation. It currently requires a sperm cell and an egg cell which can be combined in a lab and implanted in a surrogate mother. No intercourse necessary. So by your claim, no sexual intercourse at all has any biological use or function.
And your point that sex is by always intimate is true. Plenty of people have sex for the wrong reasons. That doesn’t negate the fact that everything I said was true.
Please look up the difference between sex and gender. And then look up the difference between gender and sexual orientation.
[-17] January 29, 2016 at 2:11pm
Call it whatever you’d like. Doesn’t matter to me. But let’s consider a couple facts. 99.99999999% of all sex is not had for the purpose of procreation. Sex is not required anymore for procreation. So biologically (by your definition) there is no purpose or function for any sex anymore.
However, sex does provide other uses and functions than reproduction. It creates a bond between the couple, an intimacy that strengthens the relationship. It provides stress relief, physical release, even exercise! Sex is about more than just the combination of genetic material. If that is all the intimacy between a couple is to you, I pity you.
[-22] January 29, 2016 at 1:28pm
When is the last time you had sex with a biological purpose? How often do you think any sex is for a biological purpose? So yes, gay sex has the same legitimacy as straight sex.