But I say unto you, Love your enemies bless them that curse you,
do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully
use you, and persecute you.
Amen, Keaton, Amen.
What's your point 33? The world not "progressing fast enough for you? Be patient...and soon all definitions on every subject will be up in the air and you will be able to do or say anything you want. All in the name of "love"......
read a little further Keaton
000degrees. My point is the teaching of jesus are about love and acceptance unconditionally. while it seems the perception of his teaching on this page are "love and acceptance towards anyone I don't deem different."
Bubbacoup.. ya, but this doesn't say anything against homosexuality or gay marriage.
wow....I guess you are the correct one. What was the church thinking? You better contact them, I'm not sure they know you are out there and have the insight needed to fix the world.
Let's see KRETIN...I can start quoting where you're wrong..again.
I can start quoting Christ himself who said: "But from the beginning of creation, `God made them male and female.'
`For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife,
and the two shall become one flesh.' So they are no longer two but one flesh.
What therefore God has joined together, let no man put asunder." Mark 10:6-9
Corinthians 6:9-10 - "Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God."
Romans 1:26-27 - "Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion."
Does it need to be made any clearer to even a dullard like you KRETIN?
Aen brother of truth and Christian Love for Jesus Christ ..... THE ONLY WAY OUT of THIS EVIL INSANITY and they are heading for Hell...... Pray to the One and ONLY true God...Amen
"Bubbacoup.. ya, but this doesn’t say anything against homosexuality or gay marriage." You are absolutely correct Keaton but the intellectually honest, a group you are not a part of, will continue reading to have the full context of the Bible. In Romans we find "Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error."
So while we ought to pray for those who go against God's Will, it's a prayer for enlightenment and repentance from sinful ways. It's not a prayer that they continue as fallen separated from God and destined for damnation. In short, prayers for salvation.
1- that's Heart disease, not heat
2- those 2010 totals are for the United States of America (not world wide)
Sorry for the typos, but my fists are basically raw.
And let's slow down the tape to see just how MONICNE/KREGNEVA/NEWTOWN/ad nauseum did that trick.
The goal of the trick is twofold..discredit a conservative and make the undeniable realities about homosexual sex appear to be less harmful than they truly are.
Let's break it down then....Notice MONICNE has chosen the KREGNEVA log in name for this? Not a coincidence- it's the reverse spelling of my own. This is tailored to accomplish two things..a little alinsky ridicule and to express forever more MONICNE's unhinged rage and obsession with me. Perhaps the ridicule would have been more effective if MONICNE's reputation as a multi-named troll on these boards didn't preceded it? The rage part of course is clear.
So we have the attempt to discredit the conservative. Not really much the troll can do so it merely tries to say a fact is mentioned too often. Mark this attempt.."FAIL".
So then we have the real sleight of hand...ignore the fact that homosexuals dominate the new cases of HIV each year in this country and sing a song of gun control instead. So..the deviant practices of of less than two percent of the population that lead to their sickenesses are to be ignored while mixing criminal behaviour with lawful firearm ownership is attempted. Mark this attempt also a "FAIL".
But failure is MONICNE's lot in life..she has to live with her son after all.
Woe to those who are wise in their own eyes and clever in their own sight. Isa 5:21
Clarification: The "MONICNE" long in of this particular lefty troll claims to be female so hence "she" may be used to denote it.
For it's other log ins it's chosen male personas instead...ENCINOM (notice the blunder in using the reverse of MONICNE?..the excuse given is that MONICNE is the "antonym" of ENCINOM..yet "they" both post as leftists..hmmm), NEWTOWNS THIRD LAW (the lastest screenname), KREGNEVA, SLEAZY HIPPO, MOST INTERESTING TROLL IN THE WORLD for instance are all presented as males.
This is important in order to bring MONICNE's unhinged posts into context.
Well that is stupid, every man and woman has the same right when it comes to marriage, that is to marry the opposite sex. God says not to marry the same sex. I don't like going against God. Bless everyone who is gay and that they found love, I just hope they realize it is the sin that they are not willing to turn from but fully in brace that will land them in hell. A Gay person can fight his sunful desire and if he truly wants to turn from the desire and Seek God and believe in Jesus as his Lord and Savior then yes someone who believes he is Gay can go to heaven.
By the way MONICNE/KREGNEVA/ad nauseum...HIV is not full blown AIDS. You do realise there's a distinction with the stages of the disease?
So endeth the lesson, idiot.
YOU may say chimpanzees MONICNE/KREGNEVA/NEWTOWN...but you're wrong...
"Bonobos and chimpanzees diverged from each other around 2 million years ago and differ in morphology, behavior, and perhaps even emotions and cognition in important ways.".
Much like your blunder in confusing HIV with full blow AIDS...you've attempted to turn Bonobos into Chimpanzees when they are distinct from each other.
I understand your confusion however because the same way you've been know to throw your feces around in the psych ward you're currently "convalescing" in you've been called a chimp yourself. I'm sure the abundance of body hair, "raw" fists you mentioned and prominent brow you exhibit contributed to it.
umm I hate to be a downer, but I don't think those are the words to Maiden's Number of the Beast at all.
Why red? Do these people not know what, traditionally, red colors regarding political movements have come to represent? Hint: it's blood.
The second, if you have ever read Frederic Bastiat's, you would no doubt remember this (in my opinion) most famous quote,
"Then they say that we are against equality. And so on, and so on. It is as if they were to accuse us of not wanting persons to eat because we do not want the state to raise grain.”
I really can't say it better than Sir Bastiat has.
Let's get a little context to KREGNEVA/MONICNE/TROLL's earlier post just to see how slimy the troll really is.
For example, the CDC in a report a few years ago showed there were roughly 693 new cases of HIV infection per 100K homosexual men.. roughly fifty times higher incidence than the rest of the population. So what MONICNE/KREGNEVA attempted to do earlier is to deliberatlely confuse the broader population of the US with the much smaller male homosexual population ( while ignorantly confusing AIDS deaths as HIV infections) to make AIDS deaths appear inconsequential. In fact, homosexuals get HIV in vastly higher numbers than heterosexuals. MONICNE/KREGNEVA's idiocy or duplicity..take your pick.
CDC numbers also confirm other stats that indicate hugely disproportionate incidences of sex-related diseases in homosexuals. For example, homosexual men with HIV are 90 times more likely to get an@l cancer than the heterosexual population. But again, MONICNE/KREGNEVA doesn't acknowledge a cancer from HIV as a death related to homosexual sex habits because it didn't see "AIDS" mentioned. MONICNE's ignorance or duplicity again..take your pick.
What I can't help noticing with all these facebook postings is that the bulk of the posters are recipients of the last 10-20 years of liberal indoctrination in the pu blic school systems and universities. Their poor skulls have been turned to mush through all their lib teachers. At this point they no longer think marriage is needed at all and "shacking up" is the accepted norm.
Since they are are not getting married, as studies have shown, and living together instead, why should they be the ones to complain about gays getting married. It's all in the name of love they are saying. This is the same reason that 50% of births now take place out of wedlock. It is also why our society is crumbling in on itself.
MONICNE...the Kinsey report was debunked years ago. The 10% number included people who had had same sex activity (at least once) but were not strictly homosexuals themselves. The number of strict homosexuals in the population is much smaller and closer to 2 or 3 percent of the population.
Thanks for playing champ.
That's a good verse to quote HeartyHartpence, next time don't quote it from the garbage niv Bible. You're qouting from a Bible that had 2 gays on the translation board. Throw that garbage away.
What post was removed MONICNE/KREGNEVA? Please return and clarify which post was removed..there's a good troll.
Keaton, you said "My point is the teaching of jesus are about love and acceptance unconditionally. while it seems the perception of his teaching on this page are “love and acceptance towards anyone I don’t deem different.”'
I don't think you know Jesus very well. Please read this:
Still waiting MONICNE/KREGNVA/SLEAZY HIPPO/NEWTOWNS/ENCINOM/ad nauseum...where's this alleged "removed" post of yours that you bleated about? It's ok..you can use one of your many other screennames if you're scared you'll give yourself away. And by all means, use some of that newly acquired urban vernacular you're now employing..it's the perfect accent to the impression that you're an under-educated dullard as your earlier posts here already attest to.
actually KRETIN333....you're wrong..again.
“Have you not read that he who created them from the beginning made them male and female, 5 and said, u‘Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and vthe two shall become one flesh’? 6 So they are no longer two but one flesh. wWhat therefore God has joined together, let not man separate.” Matthew 19:4-6
For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature; 27 and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error. - Romans 1:18-32
There's more if you want the quotes...but these are enough to prove your ignorance to the texts.
Avengerk.. Jesus did say that.... However he never said people who don't marry the opposite sex, or people who choose not to marry at all are bad.
Perhaps you didnt' notice the quote from Romans KRETIN333. The apostles were given authority by the risen Jesus.
See this is how it works champ...you acknowledge the sin, you ask for forgiveness and you "go and sin no more" John 8:11 that's where Jesus says you're ok in his book. It's not "acknowldege the sin..and we'll leave it at that" as you seem to believe.
Does this really have to be dumbed down for you KRETIN33? Is an adult level of intelligent conversation too much for you sport?
You played this ridiculous game with me a few weeks ago KRETIN333 where you demanded evidence of an AR15 being used to prevent a crime. I gave you some examples and by the end of the thread you disappeared into the ether like a beaten cur.
Here you are once again playing semantics with me. The texts are clear, THE ONLY union blessed by God is that of a man and woman. The apostles were given authority by Christ himself. A sin is forgiven only when one asks for forigiveness and "goes and sins no more". And now you jump up with an absolutely infantile "hey..he didn't (insert KRETIN "KRITERIA" HERE) say are bad"...well actually yes champ when you persist in the sin you are "bad" and he said it....
"And these will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.” Matthew 25:46
"If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us" John 1:8
"Whoever believes in the Son has see eternal life; whoever does not obey the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God remains on him." John 3:36 See that last part KRETIN? "whoever does not obey the Son will not see life but the wrath of God". So yes champ...not obeying God's word is "bad" to use your juvenile definitions.
The problem with the gay marriage movement is that they are lecturing people about what they think is "right" without regard to valid arguments as to why it might not be a good idea to accept gay marriage. I think an underlying motivation for these liberals is that they want to stop gay teens from committing suicide. Anyone committing suicide is tragic, but accepting homosexuality as normal is the wrong approach. If pedophiles started committing suicide in large numbers, is society going to accept pedophilia as normal so they'll stop committing suicide? I hope not...
14th Amendment provides "equal protection" and "due process" without regard to race, gender, sexual orientation.
1st Amendment provides for separation of church and state.
The superstitious balderdash appearing in the Old Testament is pretty much the reason for this separation. Some of us think the US Constitution trumps the Bible as a source of authority.
Accepting and loving the sinner is a far different proposition than accepting and loving the sin. With the first one helps others through their problems and bad choices; with the second we all lose our sense of right and wrong, decency and moral direction, as can easily be seen with our overly permissive society. It could even bring us to a place where we might even question the fundamental building blocks of a responsible society; marriage and family. Nah, that is too radical to consider. This is my first post, be gentle.
Keaton, you are simply wrong. Jesus specifically says this about marriage:
"4 He answered, “Have you not read that he who created them from the beginning made them male and female, 5 and said, ‘Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh’? 6 So they are no longer two but one flesh. What therefore God has joined together, let not man separate.” (Matt 19:4-6)
There is no mention of man joining man or woman joining woman. In fact, Jesus is directly affirming God the Father's law which specifically and repeatedly calls homosexual behavior an abomination.
Further, how dare you use the words of scripture to support a point that is patently false when you don't even believe in the God of that scripture?!
You said in another article: "someone better jump on this! $10,000 easy bucks!", saying God's Word is false. You don't get to pick and choose what you believe about God. If you do, you are making your own false God that is whatever you want Him to be.
Here is a good read on the subject:
Keaton, while I agree that we must love one another. I do not agree we should let them change the meaning of marriage. Let them have a union but they can never be equal to a man and woman being married. Again, that doesn't mean I don't love them.
333 - You say love and acceptance. Jesus because of love WILL NOT accept homos into the kingdom. You say love and acceptance, you are a fool! Love is the keeping of GOD's law. And the law says that homos are an abomination.