Whether I am a Christian or not is irrelevant; but, I am.
Those who do not accept science, as well as those who do not accept religious teachings are fanatical nuts.
For those of my own religious faith, and who take the Bible literally that the world is only 3,000 years old. Well, guys, then they should also take Genesis literally when it shows that ‘the Breath Of life’ is not in the animals of the field. For that matter, ‘The Breath Of Life’ was given only to Adam. That means that Woman also do not, and I repeat, DO NOT have the ‘Breath Of Life’ in them.
So now, if woman do not have the ‘breath of life’ (ie. a soul), then why should woman have any right to vote, speak on topics, or go to school. Answer me that you wonderful Biblical literalists!!!!
January 23, 2014 at 8:43am
Now, for the scientific side of the issue.
You stick a needle into the fetus, does it feel pain? If the fetus feels pain, then it must be alive. Right?
How do we know that it feels pain?
We know that a measurable EMF (electro-magnetic-field) is emitted whenever an alive human, or any other animal is pricked with a needle. But, did you also know that when you gut a blade of grass, the same thing happens; but, not just with that single blade of grass, but grass for hundreds of feet react to the cut.
Also, a tree being cut down emitts this emf; but so do trees within a mile of the tree being cut down. Are grass and trees alive? Do they feel pain? Does that mean that grass and trees have souls?
Just because an organic substance emits an EMF when pricked or cut, does not men that it is ‘human’.
January 23, 2014 at 8:11am
Hey Glenn, —
When do we, as the human animal, get a soul? At conception? At birth?
What does the Christian Bible say about this?
Does the Bible not say that God Breathed the Breathe of Life into Adam AFTER Adam was already walking around and breathing?
Did God Breathe the Breath Of Life into any other animal other than ‘Man’?
Does a fetus breathe the air and walk around while in the womb?
Was John The Baptist in the womb when he conversed with God while his fetus was in the womb? Or was John the Baptist in heaven talking to God while his fetus was in the womb?
Think about all of this.
Am I for abortion?
For me, abortion is not murder because I believe that man is nothing more than an animal until God places a soul within that animal regardless as to it’s species.
To abort, or not to abort is a religious question and decision. Such a question and it’s answer is to be made by only those involved. Those who are involved are the man, woman of the fetus and a medical provider. For all others, including politicians, neighbors and all others, the decision to abort is none of their business.
Since it is a religious issue, the STATE’s only role is to ensure that the decision to abort remains with the man and woman of the fetus and their medical provider– PERIOD!
December 24, 2013 at 10:45am
Yes, Phil has ignited a FIRE under us Christians to stand & speak up about the TRUTH of GOD’s Word.
And I, a homosexual and a CHRISTIAN am standing up and do speak for GOD’s WORD; that WORD is one of HIS names; ie. AGAPE. (Nygren’s book ‘Agape’, Lewis’s ‘Four Loves’, Johnston, Babour etc.. who have written millions of words on God’s (Agape’s) Love (the word Love is a poor translation of the Greek word Agape that is used by theologians to describe God’s Love, in, to and form all sapients.).
December 24, 2013 at 10:36am
Yes, Christian values that obfuscate Biblical facts, lie to their children about God, the Bible etc. and, values that instill sexual guilt into their children – and any other children that they can get their hands on. etc. etc. etc….
Oh, did I say something that was offensive to Christians. Well, I guess that none of the “Christians” on this board will come to my defense to keep me from having this post deleted.
Hmm. I guess, that unlike Phil, I don’t have the right to speak my opinion in public. However, those who are Christian and who read my opinion have the righteous justice God Given Right to delete my post because they don’t want other Christians to hear the truth and to be corrupted with the truth?????
Think about it.
Phil has the right to his opinion about what He believes that the Bible says; but, I don’t have the right to my opinion about what I believe is how Christians behave.
Phil interprets the Bible; I interpret the actions and the words of Christians that I see.
Think about it.
December 24, 2013 at 10:22am
And what is wrong with go-ed showers, dorms, bathrooms etc.. For centuries all were such; and more than a few countries still have these co-ed facilities.
I have to laugh at Americans who preach that sex is immoral, dirty, wrong etc. until you reach the magic age of 21 or that you get married. Then, suddenly sex becomes “God’s wonderful Gift to man”. No wonder American young people are so mixed up about sex.
In reference to the WildFlower Inn, the action was wrong headed. If the Inn was connected to a religious facility, then the Lesbians could have legally been denied the use of that facility. As a public facility, they were wrongfully denied.
The $400,000 fine reference is in the same vein as my co-ed facilities response.
December 24, 2013 at 10:12am
Neither the old, nor the New testaments every said that homosexuality was a sin. The New was originally written in the ancient Greek language and in that language there was no word for homosexual. Read my post again.
In the Old Testament, any and all so called reference were directed at the priests of Israel and not to the people as a whole. Why just the priests? To the priests because God did not want the temples and it’s priests to pattern themselves after the pagan temples and priests of the time. At that time, in pagan temples, there was a practice of ‘temple prostitution’ (ie. RAPE).
God did not want priests in Israel’s temples ‘RAPING’ the in order to bestow God’s blessings on a person.
December 24, 2013 at 10:02am
McCarty, with his witch hunts, ruined many more lives of innocent people than he exposed as being communists. The phrase “Guilt by association” came about directly because of McCarthyism. In other words McCarthy labeled people ‘guilty’ without a shred of evidence.
Blarman40, to use McCarthyism, ‘are you associating with the wrong people?’. Think about it.
December 23, 2013 at 10:41am
By the way, the words ‘homosexual offenders’ was and is a mistranslation from the original Greek of the New Testament. The original words were (in English) ‘pederasty offenders’ which were translated from the German Bible into homosexual offenders.
As a matter of fact, in the ancient Greek (which the New Testament was written in), there was no word for homosexual. Rather the phrase or term was ‘male lover’ or simply ‘lover’. The latter could be either. Both of which were not used in Corinthians to talk about sex between males.
Even Christ said nothing about the Roman Centurion and teenage lover’s relationship who Christ healed. And as for Sodom, Christ said nothing about the sins of Sodom being homosexuality but rather said that Sodom’s sin was ‘inhospitality’.
December 23, 2013 at 10:29am
As St. Paul said in the book of Romans, ‘judge not’.
By what right to you judge another’s household servant; he shall stand or fall by His own Master. I’ll add, this is true even though your Master and his Master is one and the same. That Master is Jesus and Jesus judges each of us according to our motives and only ‘He’ can every truly no the heart of His servants. YOU CAN NOT POSSIBLY KNOW THE HEARTS OF ANYONE OTHER THAN YOURSELF. ….
I would suggest that thee remove the 2×4 that is in your own eye, before trying to remove the speck of dust in the eye of Jesus’ homosexual servant.
December 23, 2013 at 10:22am
Not all lgbt’s were or are offended; we are just amused at the hypocrisy of those who call themselves ‘Christians’. Some of us even feel sorry for you’all and forgive you for your evil ways and thoughts.
At least I am of this mindset, even years after my boss (a Christian lay minister) tried, and failed to get me fired simply because I am gay and he felt that my being publicly gay would be a bad example to my students.
December 23, 2013 at 10:09am
Well, then I guess sheep, bulls etc. aren’t logical nor are they ‘natural’. I case you know not of what I speak, there are more than a few sheep, goats, bulls, wolves etc. that refuse (or in the case of wolves are not allowed to by the alpha male of the pack) to mate with their opposite counter-part.
I agree, that such behavior might not seem to be logical (to us mere humans) but no matter how you look at it, homosexual behavior is part of nature. This is true in the fowl kingdom as well. Also, monogamy is the exception and not the rule in the animal kingdom and that also includes fowls; which of course I sure that many find to be fowl .
December 23, 2013 at 9:59am
and this is another of your statements from above (I replaced \ few of the words that you used – or added):
So it’s a lie to say that private CHRISTIAN businesses have a right to fire who they want. The law SHOULD only used to protect RIGHTISTS and “CHRISTIAN” views. This was never about “branding.” It was about the shock and horror when people who drink CHRISTIAN-KOOL-AID realized that their biggest TV star actually believes in something they don’t. They had to rush to silence him.
IS THIS WHAT CHRISTIANS WOULD DO TO SOMEONE WHO VOICED AN ANTI-CHRISTIAN OPINION?
THINK ABOUT THAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
December 23, 2013 at 9:54am
To quote another of your comments (paragraphs):
The Duck Dynasty scandal is about intolerance. But the intolerance is on part of Hollywood and A&E. The star of a reality show is allowed to have opinions. If you don’t like them, you have no right to ban them. That’s tyrant’s behavior. That’s McCarthyism. That’s the attitude of police states we find in countries run by tyrants like Stalin, or Fidel Castro, or Huge Chavez, or the old East Germany. Is this what America has become under Obama?
Would this apply if the series was Christian oriented and one of the stars said something in an off-network interview that was offensive to Christians? I say that the star of any show is allowed to have his/her opinions without fear of being fired.
December 23, 2013 at 9:48am
You mean Christians and conservatives don’t have the right to free speech just like Hollywood leftists? You mean Christians or conservatives don’t have the right to express their views in the workplace, without fearing for their jobs?
Would you say the same if an actor on a Christian network, and especially a children’s series would say something ‘anti-Christian’?
that is to say…..
You mean non-Christians and atheists don’t have the right to free speech just like the Christian right is supposed to? You mean non-Christians or atheists don’t have the right to express their views in a Christian workplace, without fearing for their jobs?
That latter sentence, I can testify to as being true; as it happened to me when my manager (a Christian) assigned me 20 man years of work in the hopes that I could not do the work and he then could fire me. He did this just because I let it be know that I was gay (in a non-public educational facility that he was in charge of). He felt that my being know to be gay set the wrong example to my students.
Is the attitude of Christians a about pro-gay and anti-gay voiced opinions a double standard?
December 21, 2013 at 6:31am
I went to the link you provided.
I get the feeling that your use of the word ‘Chastity’ is an attempt to coverup that you have been brainwashed into denying yourself any physical relationship with anyone.
If you were straight and a woman, I would have to conclude that you will die an old maid simply because sex outside of marriage is a sin; at least according to the Church (but not necessarily by God – ie. John 8:1-15). Chastity as currently defined means ‘no sex until marriage’.
Since you state that you are gay, but have been convinced by the Church to remain ‘Chaste’, you will never have a physical relationship with anyone simply because marriage between same sex couples is not permitted by most state laws and definitely not by the Catholic Church.
Therefore, that means that since you are a Catholic and Chaste, you can and never will marry and therefore you cannot and never will have a physical relationship. Ergo, like the Exodus organization’s brainwashed members, you have been convinced to never have sex unless it is with the opposite sex, which, since you are gay, is totally distasteful to you.
Ergo, you have been brainwashed!
Not a very happy life.
December 20, 2013 at 7:53pm
and who is to determine what is sin? Ah-ha. I know, the judge and juries of the Salem Witch trials and their likes in modern day America. Yes?
St. Paul (Book Of Romans) admonishes us not to judge one another. John 8:1-15 shows that Jesus did not find the alleged Adulteress guilty of adultery. If you think otherwise, then you do not understand what is written in John 8:1-15. Jesus told the Pharisees as much when He told them that He (Jesus) does not judge as do they (ie. the Mosaic Law).
What Jesus meant, was that He (Jesus) judges by the one Law of God; that is, the Law Of Agape!!!!
December 20, 2013 at 7:44pm
Yes. And the winds of Holy Evil blows shut a door; but at the same time breaks the glass in a window, thereby allowing Evil to enter. It is not whether God is on your side; but, rather whether you are on God’s side. What signifies Evil? Your Jugement; based on what authority? God’s? Says who? you say the Bible? I say the Bible by what authority? God’s? Says who? You? Thus does Evil always proclaims the sins of others rather than their own sins.
If the British had won the Revolutionary War of 1776, then non in the colonies could call themselves patriots. Yes? Wow, I guess that might does make right. Yes? After all, it was by the might of our founding fathers that we can consider ourselves the sons and daughters of patriots. Yes?
Think about it.
Truth, justice, Honor, integrity, pride, ethics and respect (HIPER) is what determines whether one is a patriot to the American dream. Yes? Are you one with HIPER?
December 20, 2013 at 7:32pm
And, perhaps Christians should go back and re-read their own Bible if they are so offended by homosexuality. ie. David and Johnathan (lay naked together in the field – Book Of Samuel.) Naomi and Ruth, and then of course, the Roman Centurion and the Teenage male lover that Christ healed and never said a word against the Roman’s relationship with the young adult male. Also Christ did not say that the sin of Sodom was homosexuality; rather Christ said that the sin of Sodom was inhospitality. I would have to say that the sin of the modern day Christian Church is inhospitality. Yes?
December 20, 2013 at 7:25pm
I guess I am a communist, socialist or whatever. Go back a few post and read my response to FuriousFatMan. . Next I shall respond to EVILwillnot PREVAIL…