Can we try our constitutionally established judicial process for ONCE?
April 19, 2013 at 2:53pm
Probably not many.
April 19, 2013 at 1:39pm
By the way, that isn’t the motto- I’m an Eagle Scout. It’s “Be Prepared.”
April 19, 2013 at 1:05pm
Quick, connect the dots, there’s a conspiracy here! Bwahahaha no just no you idiot.
April 19, 2013 at 1:03pm
Well, if people were to shoot on sight without the suspect representing a harm to them they would be liable for murder. The police should not shoot on sight either, unless they see a gun or some sort of bomb trigger. We have this funny little thing called a criminal justice system here in the United States. We don’t just kill SUSPECTS that’s why they’re called SUSPECTS. I think people with guns already implicitly understand that they can use them to protect themselves. Your criticism reveals your bias.
April 19, 2013 at 12:31pm
Hmmm… based on indoctrination and hatred for the west…. Is that kind of like your indoctrination and hatred of Islam?
April 19, 2013 at 12:21pm
2.6 million muslims and you found 2 to prove the character of the rest. If I did the same with Christians you would be up in arms. I’m no enicom, but I’m a reasonable person, unlike you, who have probably always had the same opinion of Muslims and are constantly trying to justify it. Sorry, not the day. There are sadistic, delusional, and murderous folks in every religion. There are also sadistic, delusional, and murderous atheists (and liberals and conservatives). You can’t form a reasonable opinion about the many from the few. Nobody here really gets that.
April 19, 2013 at 12:15pm
Right…. 2,600,000 Muslims in the United States, 2 go nutso and you conclude all Muslims are the same and this is the reason multiculturalism has failed (you assume it has). Good reasoning. Apply the same rationale to ricin guy posing in front of his xtian bumber sticker. You people are a joke.
April 19, 2013 at 12:09pm
Doubtful they told all their friends and family of their plans. Also, that’s not how criminal law assigns culpability and there are really really good reasons for that.
April 19, 2013 at 12:08pm
Once again, religion is the fuel that lights the fire of hate.
April 17, 2013 at 10:22pm
LOL facts? Quick run away!
April 17, 2013 at 10:16pm
He said “BAD PEOPLE who refuse to allow God into their hearts will ALWAYS find a way to get their cowardly little hands on a weapon……”
I’ve only ever heard that argument from the right…
April 17, 2013 at 10:13pm
Are we sure that’s his car? Maybe he was mocking it.
April 17, 2013 at 7:05pm
I don’t know but their low homicide rate speaks volumes.
April 17, 2013 at 7:01pm
Oooops. Not true.
April 17, 2013 at 6:49pm
… you hope.
April 17, 2013 at 2:53pm
And your certainty comes from what, faith? Faith is just a euphemism for wishful thinking.
April 17, 2013 at 2:49pm
You guys are funny.
April 17, 2013 at 10:34am
Since most people here don’t seem to realize it, I’ll do them a favor- not all homosexuals have intercourse.
Even if the “it’s wrong to have sexual relations with the same sex” argument had merit, which it doesn’t really unless you consider books from the bronze age that are full of contradictions to be credible on faith, a ban on gay marriage encompasses sexually inactive couples who have a loving and caring relationship. I don’t need a book to tell me that it’s morally reprehensible to prevent the love of someone’s life from visiting them in the hospital. If you don’t understand that then we disagree fundamentally about morality. Hospital visitation is just one example among myriad.
Oh gosh "I_AM" (is that your new screenname?) so many straw men, so little time. But I'll try to address them.
You bleated..." even if the it’s wrong to have sexual relations with the same sex” argument had merit, which it doesn’t really unless you consider books from the bronze age that are full of contradictions to be credible on faith". How about the CDC? Is that a bronze age book full of contradictions?
Let's see...64% of new cases of HIV in this country attributed to homosexual males who make up less than 2% of the population. Let's see...higher incidences of an@l cancer, gonhorrea and syphilis among homosexuals. In fact, we're seeing a drug resistant strain of gonhorrea breaking out among homosexuals in this country.
How about that meningitis outbreak in New York and Los Angeles?
For your benefit I used a lefty source for the link because I didn't want you attempting to deflect from it by using the tired "right wing website" defllection you lefties like to try.
Shall we go on? Let's talk about the outrageously high promiscuity rates among homosexuals (kind of puts a dampening on your "some dont' have sex" attempt huh?). Higher incidences of drug use, depression..etc.
Yeah...just a bronze age book right?
Get better material champ....
As for your appeals to emotions "I_AM_YOUR_DOG" (my your conceit knows no bounds does it champ?) they're flaccid and tailored to tug at heartstrings rather speak to the truth of the matter.
The truth of the matter is that this isn't about homosexual marriage at all or these "visitation rights" you brayed about. It's about the disposal of women as mothers and matriarchs and the purchasing of children from third parties to function as accessories to the fantasies of homosexuals. What does this help to accomplish? It erodes the traditional foundations of society, Father, Mother, Child, family, in order to supplant them with fealty to the state. This is why the left embraces homosexual marriage with such vigor. A child bought by a homosexual couple lacks one half of it's heritage, this is a powerful anchor for human beings in society, the sense of where we came from and where we're going. Lose that and you look for other things to fill that void..voila.."statism". The state will take care of you, it's your patriarch and matriarch, it's your heritage that you didn't receive from at least one of your homosexual parents. And then it's simply a matter of the left's stranglehold on media, entertainment and education to use that springboard to attack children in normal families.
Preposterous you say? What was Melissa Harris Hyphen Perry saying a few days ago about kids belonging to "the whole of society"?
I take it you're speaking of the knucklehead who got kicked out of the hospital in Missouri. You know the entire incident was on camera? He was arguing with the guys brother, they were both asked to leave by the nurse because it was interfering with the patients (it was a psych ward,) and he started poking at her (the nurse.) Yep, he was taken out of the hospital...again. You know why it's faded in the news? The video exonerated the hospital and the nurse. No hospital denies for homosexuality. They deny for plenty of other reasons. Patient confidentiality, Patient comfort, HIPAA, But those times it appears to be for homosexuality, it's a red herring. I've volunteered in plenty of hospitals. They're all the same. State, private, Catholic. Doesn't matter.
Little Johnny came home from school today and ask his two "mommies" how come he doesn't have a daddy like the rest of the kids. Mommie # 1 said "because we love you little Johnny" Mommie # 2 said "Because we all love each other".
Johnny then ask " If I don't have a daddy, where did I come from?"
Mommie # 2 said" We carefully chose from a list of screened male donors that all the quality applications from the local sperm bank had to offer."
Mommie # 1 then said " And I wanted the honor of bringing you to terms, because little Johnny, we both love you very much."
These tires, over-exaggerated statistics mean absolutely nothing. Yes, gay people have higher rates of some diseases, straight people have higher rates on others. This does not mean that any sex is immoral or unhealthy. It just means you need to be smart about who you have sex with, and use protection. And this issue is about affording equal rights and benefits to all couples. Families that have 2 dads or 2 moms are just as loving and valid as any straight relationship, and deserve the 1100+ federal benefits that accompany legal marriage. If a loving gay couple getting married will destroy your heterosexual marriage, what does that say about your marriage?
Once again, your logic is flawed. Your argument is the equivalent of a chronic smoker saying "i dont need to worry about the disease rates among smokers, i just need to smoke healthier cigarettes"
Therein lies the fallacy of your argument. Gay sex in its very nature is lethal. You increase the risks of disease transmission of a disease that already runs very high in your communities for a number of reasons:
High promiscuity among homosexual (males)
anal sex (preferred method of sex) is very conducive to disease transmission)
the tethered comorbidities of gay men (upto and including "bugchasing")
These 3 things combine to form a recipe for self destruction that only a person with an appetite for destruction would induge in.
ummm... no HARRY...they're not "over exaggerated statistics" they THE statistics. They're THE reality. You're a homosexual you know that already, you just don't want to admit the reality of homosexual sex practices.
To add HARRY...I didn't just quote THE statistics that you want to deny, I stated that this isn't at all about homosexual marriage but about the disposing of womens' place in society and the normalization of the purchase of children. Which as I laid out, leads to the erosion of the family unit and a need to replace familial ties with something else...lo and behold "the state".
Now you can brush all that off as conservative paranoia but then I direct you to Melissa Harris Hyphen Perry's latest braying about getting rid of the idea that children belong to families and start using the idea that they belong to "society as a whole".
Go peddle your pleas to emotions somewhere else HARRY...they dont' work here.
You guys are funny.
LOL..RIGHT RIDER..looks like you upset the KREGNEVA troll. Don't worry he's got lots of other names to hide behind here.
So clearly you are opposed to all forms of sex. V@ginal sex spreads disease at nearly the same rate as @nal sex, plus it also runs the risk of unplanned and unwanted pregnancy. Yes, gay sex has slightly higher rates of some diseases, but straight sex has higher rates of other diseases. I'm not sure why you seem to think that all gay people have STIs, I can assure you the overall rate of STIs in the gay community is fairly low. If you are truly worried about disease, you should be worried about all sex, or even better, with heart disease and diabetes for people who eat poorly and don't exercise. Focus on that.
Ok, well straight men have the highest rates of hepatitis, Chlamydia, and genital warts. They are also far more likely to rape someone or beat a child than any other group. What about those statistics? And as I pointed out, your ideal of the parental roles no longer exists, if it ever did. Women work today, fathers help with child rearing more. Children go to daycare. Over half of marriages end in divorce, single mothers have children, parents die suddenly. A child does better with 2 loving parents, this is true. There is no evidence to show any other of the claims you are making. And you need to recognize reality of the modern era. I am only showing you logic and reasoning, no emotion or pleas. You may ignore it, but that will not change reality.
LOL...:"slightly higher rates" HARRY? Champ listen...CDC reports that 64% of new HIV cases each year in this country are attributed to homosexual males. Homosexual males make up less than 2% of the population? Wow..kid...you really are in denial aren't you?
Beating a child HARRY? What about worse behavior than that?
"Archives of Sexual Behavior" noted that homosexual pedophiles are significantly overrepresented in child sex offence cases:
"The best epidemiological evidence indicates that only 2 to 4 percent of men attracted to adults prefer men; in contrast, around 25 to 40 percent of men attracted to children prefer boys. Thus, the rate of homosexual attraction is 6 to 20 times higher among pedophiles."
Trust me HARRY...I can cite study after study if you want to pursue this.
I love how you can only find one spot to complain about, so you ignore the rest if my post. You ignore the rest of the facts, and focus on a single statistic. Yes, gay men have higher rates of HIV. So what? Women have higher rates if breast cancer, African Americans have higher rates of sickle cell what does this prove? Again, straight people have higher rates of other STIs, and higher rates of rapes and child abuse. Not to mention, if we are talking about gay marriage, how will allowing legally recognized gay marriage change these statistics at all? Will gay people suddenly find an opposite sex partner if they can't marry who they love? Perhaps it's time for you to take a step out of the 1960s and into the modern world. Take the blinders off and all that.
And as for your astoundingly ignorant pedophile remark, there is a big difference between homosexual and pedophile. You have also failed to cite anything. You just put up some arbitrary quote in a lame attempt to make your bigotry sound more valid. Fail.
That's the way HARRY..do what you always do..stick your fingers in your ears, cry "la la la I can't hear you" and then say I'm the one who's not being rational or honest. What a sad display.
Here you go HARRY.
Posted on April 17, 2013 at 5:40pm
You are correct. Two men alone cannot create a baby. Just like an elderly or infertile couple.
Yes HARRY...you just tried to equate the natural process of aging with the biological impossibility of two same-sex homosexuals procreating with each other. Next?
I have ignored nothing. You on the other hand are failing to meet my actual argument here. If your main argument is that gay couples cannot have children without outside assistance, then should we also ban elderly couples from marrying? How about infertile couples? How about couples who do not intend to have children? What is the difference? Meanwhile, a gay couple can be married and still raise adopted children or children birthed with the help of science. If a child should only be raised by their biological mother and father, the should we outlaw divorce? Should we strip single mothers of their children? If one parent dies, should the child be put in an orphanage? Do we outlaw adoption, and the use of science to help infertile couples? This is where your brand of "logic" leads. These arguments are pure absurdity.
you do realize hospital visitation has been pretty much standard for gay couples since the 80s back when HIV and AIDS was big news to many law suits so they found it easier to just let them in providing they caused no disturbance I never had a problem and I have been their many many times attempting to inject emotion into a logical discussion is a sign of desperation weakness and irrational thinking which is sad I think you mean well but are just better off letting the wiser people make the big decisions
I knew a bug chaser he is dead now those people are sad I suspect another person of being one he wants to contract it to get on disability very sad people quite insane not as bad the ones who deny being sick whether through lying or hiding their status It's actually a federal crime but hard to prosecute
April 16, 2013 at 7:54pm
Same way. You people with your gotcha questions clearly don’t understand the law. Sincerely, a lawyer.