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• Atheists Lecture Alleged Christian Thief With New IL Park Banner: ‘P.S. Your God Says, Thou Shalt Not Steal’

  April 12, 2012 at 10:46pm

  In reply to TRONRADIO.

  Atheists are miserable because Christians steal from them? An odd point to make, but ok.

  Or are there other reasons an atheist is supposed to be miserable? Because, personally, I whistle to work, cherish the time with my wife and daughter and enjoy laughing with friends. Of the things that do get me down, though, is the thought of the huge opportunity cost that my Christian friends pay while pursuing the dead-end thinking that is religion.

• Atheists Lecture Alleged Christian Thief With New IL Park Banner: ‘P.S. Your God Says, Thou Shalt Not Steal’

  April 12, 2012 at 10:19pm

  In reply to ProgressiveDeist267.

  @QUIATA – Stealing is wrong for secular reasons. It is wrong because societies without individual property rights always revert back to a collective with an authoritative leadership. Call it what you will, it is wrong because it violates a foundational principle of individual liberty.

• Atheists Lecture Alleged Christian Thief With New IL Park Banner: ‘P.S. Your God Says, Thou Shalt Not Steal’

  April 12, 2012 at 10:11pm

  In reply to AB5r.

  @AB5R – that is awfully weak. The SS officer would be a representative of a statist regime employing fraud and force against the people. In such a situation, you would be allowed, by any pro-human philosophy to lie to the antagonist (and to actively use force against him). How the sign represents to you an operating statist regime with a known history of violence is beyond imagination.

  Also, the property belongs to someone else. To take the sign deprives the owners the use of it. And it does have value. That you would even make the attempt to contort your thinking to justify it indicates you are an impotent zealot who does not understand the requirements of liberty. For instance, the idea that speech, even (and especially) unpopular ideas ought to be allowed. If you disagree with the speech, then you are free to say so. You are free to not associate with the speakers or those in agreement. You are NOT allowed to use force to stifle that speech.

  You’re worse than any Obama-supporting liberal.

• Atheists Lecture Alleged Christian Thief With New IL Park Banner: ‘P.S. Your God Says, Thou Shalt Not Steal’

  April 12, 2012 at 10:03pm

  In reply to Windsong.

  @Windsong – Personally, I’m an Objectivist. I subscribe to a fully-featured philosophy that specifically addresses the metaphysical constraints that preclude the supernatural in general and therefore the idea of an omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent, all-loving being as described by most Christians.

  Anyway, if you get bored, check out Objectivism and, while you will immediately discount it (you didn’t use reason to arrive at your current state of understanding, I won’t burden myself with the expectation that reason will have any chance of taking you away from it), you will see that while the term “atheist” does not itself mean anything positively (it tells you what someone does not believe, not what they do), most atheist utilize some philosophical framework, even if not overtly aware of it.

• Atheists Lecture Alleged Christian Thief With New IL Park Banner: ‘P.S. Your God Says, Thou Shalt Not Steal’

  April 12, 2012 at 9:53pm

  In reply to Quiata.

  @Quiata – Is it not enough to say that property rights are essential to freedom and liberty? That acting through force or fraud can only beget counter actions of the same and hence chaos? To maintain personal responsibility, extend respect to others and live your life in pursuit of happiness do not require anything that cannot be found in nature. That is, we do not need claims of the supernatural to live in a free and polite society.

• ‘We’re Antagonistic Toward Religious Belief’: Military Atheists Hold Army-Sponsored ‘Rock Beyond Belief’ Festival

  April 1, 2012 at 9:22pm

  In reply to Arc.

  First, who knows what all atheists think? You can’t even group all Christians together in their beliefs. As for why atheists worry about theism, we live in a society with a lot of theists in positions of power (Christians, Jews and Muslims and Statists). Their desire to be altruistic gives us crap like Obama-care and generally is used to justify plunder (as defined by Bastiat). If we had the limited government conceived by the Framers, it really wouldn’t be an issue. However, we have an ever-growing government regime that feels the govt has the right to enforce ,,, well, anything and everything. That’s both Republicans and Democrats. It’s funny that people here keep thinking that atheism == communism. You all should re-read Atlas Shrugged (and Rand’s other works) to see that we walk between two evil groups of faith: those that believe in a benevolent all powerful state and those that believe in a benevolent all powerful God. Neither of those groups is consistent with a reasoned study of reality. Both attempt to enslave humanity.

• ‘We’re Antagonistic Toward Religious Belief’: Military Atheists Hold Army-Sponsored ‘Rock Beyond Belief’ Festival

  April 1, 2012 at 9:07pm

  In reply to Col. HawK.

  Personally, I’ve always been of the opinion that funerals are for the living. When I die, I hope my wife disposes of my corpse in the cheapest manner available to her and marks the occasion with the rest of my family and friends in whatever way suits them. If they don’t, well, no worries as I’d be dead and dispossessed of the ability to know and/or care.

• ‘We’re Antagonistic Toward Religious Belief’: Military Atheists Hold Army-Sponsored ‘Rock Beyond Belief’ Festival

  April 1, 2012 at 8:52pm

  In reply to NorthWestMom.

  @ILUVJESUS – I’m an atheist and I agree completely that people “can’t hold meetings or rallies or ceremonies to nothing”. I’ve said many times here that it is ridiculous to group people by what they don’t believe. It’s why I would avoid things like this and the “Reason Rally” as they aren’t forthcoming about what they are promoting and life’s too short to be someone’s useful idiot.

• Christians Face Misdemeanor Charges After Arrest for Reading Bible Outside of DMV Last Year

  March 30, 2012 at 1:58am

  In reply to LeadNotFollow.

  Regardless of how this winds up, how is this Christianity under attack? Churches were not closed, prayer wasn’t interrupted, signs not covered. It was a guy displaying boorish behavior, though I would agree that it probably ought not to be criminal.

  There are definitely instances of Christianity under attack – in Egypt, Jerusalem, Iran, Egypt … it would cheapen what those people are going through to call this incident an “attack”.

• Christians Face Misdemeanor Charges After Arrest for Reading Bible Outside of DMV Last Year

  March 30, 2012 at 1:53am

  In reply to dianna9490.

  Actually, there was an arrest, And then a conviction. And the our leftist AG vacated the ruling and the charges were dropped – it hardly seems like you could do that after a conviction, but they did.