I couldn’t agree more, but as I’m about 3k miles from Clemson, I won’t be attending..at least not in person. In spirit, yes. We have a saying (among my oldest Christian friends..) that goes “when the pressure is on, find some way to give”.. The best thing Christians can do is pray, and if possible to the source of this and pray there. It will twist some spiritual tails.
 August 29, 2016 at 9:39pm
As odious as I find some of your anti-Christian comments, I nonetheless would actively support your right to make them. I would not even object to them being made in public, but having said that, I should also be allowed to make my Christian statements in public. Fair enough? After all both of us would be making public statements involving a deity in some way or another.
It doesn't matter what the content was. They can't just set up shop like that where ever they want. What they were doing was irrelevant.
@blinkydink. He can setup 2 lawn chairs on public owned land (ie, Clemson University) if he wants... He can even pray with and for people if he wants. It's public land - no different than a sidewalk along a street.
With permission he can and only in designated areas.
Feel free to challenge it, every single court in the country will shut you down because how you imagine free speech works and how it actually works are not the same thing.
 August 29, 2016 at 8:55pm
Here is an idea: pray anyway. A confrontation with the rectal orifices that crafted this unconstitutional policy would be a good thing. Besides what would the University do? Haul him off to jai? Clap him in irons? Publically humiliate him by putting him in the stocks? No. The negative publicity this institution would get would readily dissuade them from any real attempts to silence public prayer. Christians need to cease being doormats for Jesus anyway. Don’t want prayer? Pray more.
This is a perfect opportunity for a true protest for anyone living near Clemson. Bring the masses and show the Occupy, BLM armatures how it's done. Just walk in unannounced and pray.
I couldn't agree more, but as I'm about 3k miles from Clemson, I won't be attending..at least not in person. In spirit, yes. We have a saying (among my oldest Christian friends..) that goes "when the pressure is on, find some way to give".. The best thing Christians can do is pray, and if possible to the source of this and pray there. It will twist some spiritual tails.
You got that right! Every Christian in the area needs to head down to the Clemson campus and pray until they get the clue that All of America is a free speech zone.
 August 20, 2016 at 11:02am
Don’t underestimate God’s ability to reach someone’s heart. Even a flawed book such as Purpose Driven can be an effective tool for God to plant seeds in a man’s life that will cause him to search further. The Bible says God is not hard to find, but ultimately it is best to look in it and not a book about God.
 August 20, 2016 at 10:57am
Your comment is among the most hateful ones I can recall reading on this site in a long time. You try fighting an addiction and have some calloused person flippantly judge their plight by calling them weak minded. I have known more than a few who have struggled with substance abuse and it is no easy path to escape. But the ones who have searched and ‘found’ Jesus Christ are almost always the ones who have attained complete freedom.
And there are far worse prisons than substance abuse that people need to be freed from. One is the intolerance of the mind of bigoted unbelief.
 August 20, 2016 at 10:51am
Prayer is not a room service menu and the Lord is not a cosmic bellhop delivering your orders to you. If one wants to receive from God, it stands to reason to search out those things God has promised to mankind; then search for how to ask for those things. Then, search out how best to use the things God has promised. It makes for an exciting and very rewarding life if one follows this simple plan.
 August 20, 2016 at 10:44am
Nice answer to Ministry o’Truth! And I noticed you politely skirted the elephant in the room, that being if one has to mockingly question ‘personally knowing Jesus’, it is highly likely that they do not. An introduction is in order perhaps?
 August 20, 2016 at 10:34am
I am not defining anything; I was referring to the definitions found in a dictionary. I am merely reporting facts. You own particular stance regarding God defines you as an atheist, no matter how you want to dress it up. Or putting lipstick on a pig someone has said of this type of adornment.
 August 20, 2016 at 10:31am
Of course the Bible endorses certain views, but the article above doesn’t mention that the Bible compels anyone who glances at it, let alone read it to believe.
Do you publically display On the Origin of Species? Better get it hidden, as it falls into the same category; a religious text.
And the best part is the coercion used by the so called educated community to promote Darwin and his religion. You are a sold out adherent from what I have seen. You are every bit as religious as the Islamic fanatic; but the best part of it all is you hide under a cloak of being non-religious. It isn’t working Blink..
 August 20, 2016 at 10:22am
You listen to yourself, Blink. Your ramblings about the Freedom of Religion Clause as it rightfully should be called, as usual ignores the second part.”Nor prevent the free exercise thereof”.. what part of this do you fail (intentionally?) to understand? I am old enough to remember when we prayed before lunch in grade school. Little kids don’t feel oppressed by this unless they learn to be so from parents. I was not from a religious family background; I am the child of two college educated parents (both in medicine) and they had no problem with the practice of prayer. It was not led by any church or denomination. Young people choose what path they want to go anyway regardless of what instruction they receive at home. I’ll bet you did.
You may have a valid point about prayer in school to the exclusion of other religions,but your cheerleading to exclude Christianity from the public forum is a violation of the second part of what you erroneously call “Establishment”.
And speaking of kidnapping, I had friends who had experienced the horror of what was called ‘deprogramming’; it is a horrendous violation of the free right to choose. Why do you de facto approve of the type of deprogramming the public schools are engaged in, by compelling such nonsense as “sensitivity training” regarding homosexuality? That is brainwashing, only when your particular cause is deemed just by the “establishment” it is ok? You are not for equality, but for getting even.
 August 19, 2016 at 12:05pm
And, since the atheist crowd seems to hang all their hopes on Supreme Court rulings (well…. at least the ones they like:) the court case you cited ought to shut their mouths, but I am not holding my breath.
August 19, 2016 at 12:03pm
There is still time for you to move….
 August 19, 2016 at 12:00pm
Not this drivel again..! You don’t get to define what is and what is not a religion. I believe the authority most of us have agreed upon is the dictionary, and there is a definition listed for atheism that calls it a firmly held belief, which correlates with its definition of ‘religion’. Sorry chum but you are as religious as they come, albeit in a self contradicting way.
August 19, 2016 at 11:56am
God indeed doesn’t need to vote, as He is the One who grants nations the leaders they deserve, many times NOT the one said nation wants. Witness the wretch we have now, and the one (you pick) we are about to have in 2017.
 August 19, 2016 at 11:54am
It is a cheesy cheap shot to tar and feather all Christians because of certain individual’s practices. Even you can see (hopefully) that Westboro Baptist doesn’t speak for or even remotely represent Christianity as a whole. And you forget that it was Christians who first started to publically oppose Slavery in this country. (It actually started in Britain).
By your standards, Ultra, we should then judge all atheists by what the more notable Communists of the 20th Century did. Lenin, Stalin, Mao all were choir boys? Not hardly.
 August 19, 2016 at 11:49am
But for a godless Supreme Court decision that in effect manufactured out of whole cloth, this separation of church and state myth, this country would still respect the rights of its people to chose how, when and where to express their beliefs in God, or no God instead of the State raping the rights of believers to publically express themselves. And this, thanks to Madelyn Murray O’Hare. She was a vile woman who abused her son by compelling him to follow her own mean spirited views on the ‘no God’ issue. Thankfully he escaped and became a Christian anyway. She on the other hand did not fare so well, being murdered along with one daughter and buried in a steel drum by a lunatic. No Christian would or should rejoice in her fate, but many of us can see in it the bitter harvest of what she spewed out on this nation. Can you cite any circumstance where the Church in this country has forced you to believe what it does? .
Listen to yourself.
She's a terrible person because she compelled her son to be an atheist.
Not like good little Christian mothers who brainwash their children from birth about Jesus.
You want to see legal child abuse? Go watch "Jesus Camp". By the way, when was the last time an atheist had their child kidnapped and taken to an internment camp as in "Kidnapped for Christ"? When was the last time a child died because their parents relied upon 'faith healing' nonsense instead of going to a doctor?
The original intent of the Establishment clause was to make it so that the government could not promote or show favoritism toward a particular religious view, which is why school prayers were rightfully outlawed as being a violation of the 1st Amendment. Your attempts to use public schools to brainwash other peoples children with religious dogma came to an end.
You listen to yourself, Blink. Your ramblings about the Freedom of Religion Clause as it rightfully should be called, as usual ignores the second part."Nor prevent the free exercise thereof".. what part of this do you fail (intentionally?) to understand? I am old enough to remember when we prayed before lunch in grade school. Little kids don't feel oppressed by this unless they learn to be so from parents. I was not from a religious family background; I am the child of two college educated parents (both in medicine) and they had no problem with the practice of prayer. It was not led by any church or denomination. Young people choose what path they want to go anyway regardless of what instruction they receive at home. I'll bet you did.
You may have a valid point about prayer in school to the exclusion of other religions,but your cheerleading to exclude Christianity from the public forum is a violation of the second part of what you erroneously call "Establishment".
And speaking of kidnapping, I had friends who had experienced the horror of what was called 'deprogramming'; it is a horrendous violation of the free right to choose. Why do you de facto approve of the type of deprogramming the public schools are engaged in, by compelling such nonsense as "sensitivity training" regarding homosexuality? That is brainwashing, only when your particular cause is deemed just by the "establishment" it is ok? You are not for equality, but for getting even.
I don't have to ignore the 'free exercise' clause, because I actually understand what it means and unlike you don't seem to be under the impression that it's absolute because no part of the 1st Amendment is.
Nobody is excluding Christianity from anything. See, you got the impression that that putting up your displays and having your prayers was something you were supposed to be able to do when the fact is that you were never supposed to be able to do that.
Free exercise means that you, as an individual, can practice your religion. It does not give you the right to practice whenever and however you want. It does not give you the ability to use government institutions or functions to promote your religion no matter how innocuous. It does not mean can proselytize at work to your hearts content.
It means you as an individual can practice your religion and if there is something about your religion that you must do, like wear certain clothing, employers both in the public and private sectors have to accommodate you and not discriminate against you. It does not allow you to refuse to perform certain aspects of your job, particularly as a government employee. It does not allow you to ignore the law and claim religious exception to it in most cases.
Sensitivity training for homosexuality? What did that involve outside pointing out that religious people lie about homosexuals anyway?
 August 19, 2016 at 11:32am
The actual citation is “be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man sows, that shall he also reap.” *(Gal 6:7) Even you, erudite scientist as you claim to be, must know that carrot seeds yield….carrots.
A person’s words are seeds as well, and what a person says is held in reserve to be answered to at a later date. Your ‘harvest’ isn’t looking too good.
August 19, 2016 at 11:25am
Have YOU read Deuteronomy? What about Ephesians? You atheists only focus on the parts that seemingly support your unbelief, only you do not realize that the very passages you cite support Christianity’s claims. Deuteronomy contains much about living in the physical realm, but Ephesians contains living in the spiritual realm, something atheists have no clue how to do.
 August 18, 2016 at 4:25pm
What part of the Sermon on the Mount (an excellent example practically applied ‘Christianity’) is morally corrupt?
 August 11, 2016 at 4:09pm
Really? Are you speaking only for yourself, or are you so presumptuous to speak for those of us who have successful prayer lives?