However, Loesch pointed out, Australia banned and even confiscated some guns after the Port Arthur shooting massacre in 1996 left 35 people dead, according to the Federalist. And in the United Kingdom, Loesch said there are still beheadings – and shootings – that take in the European country, despite its strict gun laws. Perhaps Jon can explain how referencing two incidence has anything to do with statistics. It is all too obvious that dana is uneducated so one understands why she doesn’t know the difference. Now here are some real figures and statistics. Let’s for example consider percent of gun ownership and gun related homicide rates by a few countries. Let’s for giggles look at the two dana references to show how ignorant she really is.
Australia guns per 100 population is 15 and gun homicides per 100,000 is 1.76. Great Britans’s guns per 100 population is 6.2 and gun homicides per 100,000 is .07. Egypt’s guns per 100 population is 3.5 and gun homicides per 100,000 is .57. And for the US the guns per 100 is 88.8 and the gun homicides per 100,000 are 2.97. You see dana statistics are more significant when they are based on large numbers like the entire population and all gun homicides. As wise people often say dana…. its ok to be stupid, just don’t open your mouth and continually prove it.
How bout this rookie....no gun homicides have happened in my house or truck so that is an ok place to have guns????? Seems so per the way you are able to paint so well with the statistics brush.....
[-8] October 2, 2015 at 1:55pm
AvengerK….. another great example of shooting one’s mouth off with no even remote relationship with the facts or reality. He was an Irish Catholic who was evidently enamored with the IRA and thus it was a Catholic looking to kill Protestants. And last time I checked both of those religions are regarded as Christian. So once again your point is you have no point. Hey you seem like a tough guy, how’s about you walk into a IRA bar in Dublin and ask the “militant atheist trolls” in the IRA why they kill christians.
Great to hear from you JCrooked....you ran away last time you responded to my posts when I asked you to tell me what was manipulated on the Planned Parenthood videos.
Do you have that now since you're here?
He was an African American who was enamored with "Magick" and had links to an Islamist and Black Lives Matter on his webpage until it was scrubbed.
Even Oregon was talking about this shooting being a hate crime until someone told them that this wouldn't be politically correct.
Epic ail Rook.
Flier2020 clear up your ignorance, he was from england. Africans there are not african american.
Chris Harper Mercer, who was killed in a shootout with police, was born in England before moving to the States as a young boy, according to reports in America\
Jsuck, he was not asking if they were protestant he was asking if they were christians and catholics are christians since you are ignrant of the fact. One of the victims was latino who's family could not speak english, probably catholic. He had islamic ties, that was what did it.
[-24] October 2, 2015 at 1:50pm
Ah so because it was a catholic looking to kill Protetants that’s the best you can come up with. I just hope they track down where he got the weapons from and they put that/those individuals in prison for life. He is underage in Oregon for owning a hand gun so someone gave him or sold him some illegally.
Do you actually read before you write BS? The feds have come out and said that ALL the guns were purchased LEGALLY. Who are you gonna track down next; the guy that sold him the gas to get to the college, the grocery store manager who sold him food for the energy he used to complete his mental madness??? You liberal tools are so full of shit its mindnumbing
26 makes him of legal age. First reports were that he was 20, in which you would be correct that he is not old enough.
However, no gun law, save for the totalitarian confiscation of all firearms (which you won't get without an ocean of blood), would have stopped him from obtaining his weapons. The only thing that would have stopped him from using them would have been another armed individual.. say for instance the Army vet that was tried to save everyone else in the room but was disallowed by the college from carrying a weapon.
JRook: The guy was 26. How old do you have to be to own a handgun in Oregon?
Cav: I looked up the Oregon gun laws and was surprise to see how lenient they are. I expected a New York or New Jersey approach. Anyway, you're right that JRook hasn't got the first clue, just like his mentor Obama.
They wouldn’t even get our guns “with an ocean of blood”, because the blood in that ocean would be theirs.
Mercer was 26 years old and bought every gun LEGALLY.
In Oregon a person must be 21 years of age in order to buy a firearm.
Wrong on all counts, Rook.
Just another JRookie mistake?
October 2, 2015 at 1:47pm
Actually the point Cavallo makes is the correct one and is based on a knowledge of what Insurance is supposed to be. The is the largest number of people in the risk pool as possible to dilute the risk of any individually sick members. And of course health insurance companies before the Affordable Care Act merely rejected chronically ill patients at any premium amount. For middle or lower class families the result was they paid their way until they ran out of money and then signed up for Medicaid, which of course is funded by everyone. The case for a national health insurance system like that in Germany, Sweden, Switzerland or for that matter an expansion of Medicare to cover all citizens is obvious and overwhelming. The problem with the ACA is that we once again attempt to maintain a for profit approach for a social good like healthcare which wastes too much money on non-care related expenses and profits. And by the way in the 10 years before the Affordable Care Act health insurance premiums went up an average of 10 percent a year and that’s when they were not forced to exclude pre-existing conditions and there were no coverage limits. And no they which includes several multiple Republican Presidents who advocated for a national health insurance, want everyone on Medicare. Which is you check is the most effective and efficient health insurance in the world. Covering a group that for profit companies won’t cover.
 October 2, 2015 at 1:31pm
@saranda why would you question such an absurd figure. If ISIS and Al Qaeda had anywhere near 350 million members they would already control all of the middle east and be preparing military advances on Europe. I would however extend the ban on muslim immigration to None until all terrorist activities end. It is time for wealthy and educated muslims to clean up their own countries and not find safe haven here or in Europe. But unfortunately as is all to often the case people discriminate less against individuals who can write big checks or are in bed with large oil companies. Including governments and the politicians.
Educated Muslims - Humm
jews 15 million - 200+ Nobel Prizes
Muslims 1.5 Billion - 9 Nobel Prizes (one is Obama's)
The point is correct that hundreds of millions of Muslims around the world support jihad against the infidels. Islam is a religion of jihad and misogyny and Muhammad was the first Muslim terrorist.
The Myth of the Tiny Radical Muslim Minority: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7TAAw3oQvg Pew Poll, Muslims Like Sharia Law: http://www.pewforum.org/2013/04/30/the-worlds-muslims-religion-politics-society-overview/
[-2] September 30, 2015 at 11:29am
So where are all the supporters of small businesses and their “Right” to operate their business as they see fit. Or does that only apply when the business wants to discriminate against a group of customers you don’t like. Just want to be sure. I’m thinking if it was Bubba’s Place and Bubba asked the individual to leave because he or she was with their same sex spouse, newly married in Kentucky, you support them.
Hey Simpleton, no one is suing Waffle House to force them to comply. People that do not like their policy just will not patronize their establishment. Moronic statement from you as usual fool.
JRook. False comparison on a number of levels. 1. No one is suing them or sending death threats, we just wont give them business. Gay rights groups sued and threatened Christian businesses. 2. Sexual preference is not protected by the constitution, firearms are. 3. No one is saying Waffle House cant do what they want, they are just going to lose business. Thats how a free market works. If you want forced tolerance then try a communist country.
Sure they have the right to refuse service to anyone but people also have the right to go elsewhere to get waffles. They aren’t the only place in town and I would make sure that everyone knew their establishment was anti 2nd amendment so no one made the mistake of going in there with their weapon. If my weapon isn’t welcome there neither is my money. Same reason for example that I don’t go to Target stores. They have the right not to serve someone but I on the other hand have the right to spend my money somewhere else.
Does everything evaluate to sex with you?...truly deprived individual.
Waffle House is not being sued or fined over this. Nobody is bringing the power of Government in to make Waffle House allow weapons. We are just choosing to vote with our wallets and take our business elsewhere, like the gay couple should have done when the bakery refused to make their cake.
of course they can operate the way they want. and we in turn can operate the other side of the transaction by choosing a place where OUR views are welcome too. My rights are safe, so are their rights to their private property. If it effects their revenue, they'll be the ones to choose whether their ideology are as valuable as their bottom line. But hey, maybe there'll be a higher influx of effete snobs who think the absence of LEGAL guns protects them from the ILLEGAL ones that may pass through.
Where's the opposite side screeching that the place can't do that like they had with the bakeries refusing gays? Or does that only apply when the business wants to discriminate against a group of customers they do like?
I 100% with JRook and if you don't, you're being a hypocrite. Waffle Houses are privately owned franchises. You'll only be hurting the small business owner if you do these shenanigans. A very good friend of mine owns a Waffle House and I know for_a_fact he serves officers and military carrying weapons and when we have open carry in Texas, he will not be turning those people away. Just be careful before you hurt someone's livelihood. You wouldn't want them screwing with yours. Liberals act out of emotion but let's be respectful of private business. It's the Conservative thing to do.
Ouch RooK! You just got your rear end reamed! Need a pillow?
No zero, you are being a hypocrite as usual. Above you say stand up for what you believe in and here you are whining about people doing it in the form of spending their money where they choose. Just a lot of inconsistent hot air. You and jcrook should get a room.
Plenty of small businesses defenders posting here. Business owners have every right to make wrong decisions.
They also have both the right to succeed and the privilege to fail.
Where is the government stepping and and fining that waffle house? Gun rights are clearly spelled out in the second amendment. Where in the Constitution does it say that about homosexuality? Our problem is that the imagined right is more important than one clearly spelled out. You'd understand that if you weren't a spineless, PC lefty.
JRook....no body is saying that the Waffle House needs to be shut down, or otherwise pounded by the courts or the government for it. Just that we all need to exercise our right to choose which establishments don't make us feel welcome if we fall into a certain category. That simple. Don't know how you can make such a lame comparison. It's all about the free market.
And, as far as Bubba's place is concerned, I would have a problem if any restaurant turned away any customer who comes into their place to sit and eat or have takeout, if they came in like everyone else sat down and behaved responsibly. But, those kinds of things aren't happening. Catering an event, is participating in condoning what the event is about thus helping the event to be a success. Serving a meal in a restaurant isn't.
As usual, JRook fails to see the difference.
I don't see anyone calling for a lawsuit to have the restaurant change it's policy. Instead, we simply choose to go to a different restaurant.
Hardly the same as the gays trying to force those with policies they disagree with to fall in line. They gays didn't simply go elsewhere.
See the difference now, JRook? Eh, probably not. Fools will be fools.
Where in the 2nd A. does it encourage or entitle anyone that bring their arms into a restaurant?
It doesn't because most folks had enough sense to understand that the arms were for times of tyranny or war...they certainly didn't walk around all day carrying their muskets.
You folks have a creepy obsession was with your firearms...not healthy culture.
JRook: To begin with "Waffle House" is not a "small business." Then your next premise is also ridiculous. If "Waffle House" has a policy I don't like, I don't have to go there and spend my money. So they can operate how they want and I can go elsewhere. I mean, if that's okay with you? LOL
spanky: What's "creepy" is knowing that people like you are running around loose. lol
Accept the Truth
Yes it is clearly spell d out why the right to bear arms is for the assurance of a well armed militia, Not for a well armed Waffle House !
So spankabutt, in your fancyland of pixies and unicorns, the 2A DOESN’T allow people to aimlessly walk around with guns and knives UNLESS the town crier runs amok yelling “The terrorists are here! The terrorists are here! Arm yourselves!" Or perhaps we have to wait for an executive order from OButthead to declare HSA code orange before we’re allowed to upgrade from a pea shooter in public possession. Geesh, you’re a special one.
[-1] September 30, 2015 at 11:25am
No one is impressed or respects groups that eat their own.
[-20] September 30, 2015 at 11:22am
“I appreciate that people have a lot of different views on the issue of abortion,” Richards said. “We take the position that we trust women to make decisions about their pregnancies.”
Gowdy responded, “I appreciate the way you like to frame the issue, that you are the reasonable one and those of us who have a contrary position are not reasonable.”
Gowdy is either mentally challenged, psychotic in terms of thinking intelligent people don’ see right through him or a purposeful liar. I’d say he is a bit of all three. What he isn’t is a man of integrity, ethics or interested in being accurate.
In light of your postings here, I think that those descriptions better apply to you than to Trey.
Calling him a liar doesn't make him one unless of course you are part of the demoKratiK liberal left. If you are then obviously everything anyone from that side says is absolute fact. Representative Gowdy is one of the most straight forward persons I have seen in Washington. He is like a cross between a bull dog and a snapping turtle. Once he latches on he doesn't let go till the dirty ugly truth is revealed. Kind of like his slow methodical tenacity exhibited in persisting in getting the emails the hildabeast said didn't exist on Benghazi that have just been recovered and released. Or wait... is that a lie as well?
to be vey clear JRook
M. Gowdy has more intellect, integrity and class in his bowel movements
than the entire liberal Democratic party including you, libtard #1 Obama and the Hilldebeast
Cecile, is that you? LOL
JRook, so you think it's ok to murder babies, to sell for body parts in the pursuit of Lamborghini's ? And are you going to ignore the fact that, Planned Parenthood, has steadily spent less money on "Woman's Health Care" each year, while harvesting dead baby parts and lining their pockets, while kicking back this money to the Party of destruction ? So you attack the guy, Gowdy, who exposes these lies and crimes. J Rook, it's people like you, who refuse to face the truth, accuse the truth tellers of lies, and continue to weaken the Nation. Now, how about this angle, Planned Parenthood has murdered millions of black children, are you also now supporting genocide of the black race too ? Interestingly, you accuse Mr. Gowdy of having no integrity, ethic's and lying, when in fact it is you who should wear those descriptions.
 September 30, 2015 at 11:09am
“First of all that ten commandment monument doesn’t establish a religion so it is fine and courts have said so in other states.” Ned technically the ten commandments is not a christian based law but a Jewish based one. Second, the council based their decision on the state constitution which prohibits “heralding” one religion over another. So the key terms here are religion and heralding. The term God and God’s Law doesn’t enter into the decision at all. Belief what you will, just don’t use government in any form to herald it or promote it. And by the way the founding fathers would applaud this decision.
 September 30, 2015 at 11:05am
What happened to all the supporters of state’s rights…. and certainly the state should have the right to act in concert with its own constitution. “on a provision in the Oklahoma state constitution that precludes one religion being heralded over another.” You want to identify a villain, so pick and chose when states should act based on their constitution and when they should not. Clearly the decision is a was an easy one given how their constitution reads.
[-2] September 30, 2015 at 10:59am
Perhaps sharona could enlighten us on exactly how much the US subsidized the Iron Dome and who’s military technology is being deployed. That might change how the ownership of the Dome is communicated a bit. As Trump points out, the US is a patsy who gives money and aid to countries who don’t need it. How’s about we rebuild our infrastructure, strengthen our schools and worry about our own economy.
I am am American who supports funding Israel. If I had my choice, I would ensure not one red cent supports whining “give it all to me” types like jrook. I could care less that you’re an American. Go support yourself slacker! I’ll stand behind the Israelis before I support you! Your false application of guilt to serve your needs doesn’t work for this cowboy.
 September 30, 2015 at 10:53am
“ongoing debate over undercover videos that purport to show Planned Parenthood selling fetal body parts.” purport – to present, especially deliberately, the appearance of being; profess or claim, often falsely. Wow a rare example of integrity from billy indicating exactly the real status of the videos. Not sure what the outrage would be anyway as the founding fathers were clear on the point and reflected it in every document…. there is NO and there shall be NO national religion in America. And yes both of the examples you provide were defended by Southern and Nazi christians as being consistent with their faith.
And Mao, Stalin's, and Pol Pot's were deemed consistent with progressive atheist ideals. The Christians involved in the acceptance of the items I mentioned were wrong according to God's ideals...what can you base your sides wrongs on?
A Forensics lab just came out with their findings. The videos were not doctored. They left out the bathroom breaks. Planned Parenthood is doing what they do well. They are lying. They have been killing babies for years, and this woman makes over 1/2 million dollars a year doing so! This is criminal, and they should all go to prison!
 September 30, 2015 at 10:47am
No surprise Liberty Counsel and attorney Mat Staver will milk the meeting for all its worth.
Indeed. As exampled by his comment...
"The fact that (the pope) met with Kim Davis sends a message that he is someone who stands with those individuals who are standing up for their religious convictions, that religious freedom is a worldwide message that the pope wants to convey."
NO Mr. Staver. The FACT that the pope met with Kim Davis does NOT necessarily mean what you say it does. The pope has and will continue to (I'm sure) meet with all kinds of controversial people (of which Kim Davis is but one) and so... Does that mean every time he meets with one the pope is sending a message that he is someone who stands with THOSE individuals who are standing up for THEIR (religious or other) convictions - and that such is a worldwide message that the pope wants to convey - ???
 September 30, 2015 at 10:44am
Also true, but if the claims on the label are false the company should pay and pay big to discourage other companies from lying and perhaps increase the value of the truth. And perhaps a few of the executives involved should spend some time in jail.
The label is fine, they claim the front packaging is misleading and confuses people into believing it's an alternative to fruit because it, "Contains real fruit" it does, not a lot but different than the walmart brand that doesn't. and it's MIXED FRUIT flavored.
If we're going to go down that path I want to sue the cough syrup company because that crapola doesn't taste anything like cherry.
The commie RooK would most assuredly be one fooled by the label on the box, and only a government smarter than he could remedy the slight.
How can pureed fruit not have fruit fiber in it? If there is no fiber all you have left is flavored sugar water. Don’t know if that puree claim can fly unless tested.
[-6] September 29, 2015 at 10:36am
“What I don’t want to become numb to is wasting those taxpayer dollars,” Chaffetz said. “This is an organization that doesn’t need federal subsidy.” Are you all really that stupid that you can be swayed by lies on top of lies. At no point does the federal government subsidize Planned Parenthood. They pay them under the Medicaid program fees for service, just like any other Medicaid provider. As this story points out, all this other nonsense is just noise because the everyone on this committee and everyone writing about the issue, knows the accusations made in the Planned Parenthood videos are fraudulent. This is about taking away the constitutional right of a woman to make her own reproductive choices. That’s it, so stop acting like a cowardly, scared child who looks for countless excuses for their motive, become adults and admit it.
its all about slut shaming/punishing. too harsh to admit
It is about the murder of human beings...sorry that is the scientific fact of the matter.
Two things jrook.
1. In order for the videos to be fraudulent you have to be able to admit that the words coming from the mouths in the videos are NOT the actual words spoken. Are you willing to say that?
2. This is where you show your cards. You say a woman has the right to make her own "reproductive choices" but you won't say that in order to do that she has to willfully kill a living fetus/baby. You feel the need to sugar coat the words and therefore lose the argument. Are you willing to say in print and out loud that you are for a woman killing because she decided to not use contraception prior to willingly having sex? "Become an adult and admit it".
 September 29, 2015 at 10:30am
And of course this is the most telling info from the poll. Vice President Joe Biden, who is still mulling a 2016 run, would defeat each of the Republican candidates if the election were held today, according to the poll. So its not the Failorina or Carson are necessary ideal candidates, they are just slightly more liked than Hillary at this point. And given the all out hit job being done on Hillary that is rather pitiful for both of them. But I am taking a rather long look at both Carson and Trump. If the ticket was Trump/Carson, I would vote for it. Would not vote for any ticket that Failorina was on. She cost me a bunch of money on HP stock and would have done irreparable damage to HP if she would have been allowed to finalize the proposed Price Waterhouse deal in which she was prepared to pay $10 billion more than the $3 billion IBM picked it up for. She is a joke in and out of board rooms.
 September 29, 2015 at 10:24am
Oliver you do understand what Margin of Error means in polls like this, right? Cause a one percent advantage in a poll at this stage means nothing. And when the world finds out, like Californian’s did what a failure and revisionist liar Carly Failorina is, she will loose by 20% with or without the margin of error. Only republicans would herald and vote for an individual who is on virtually ever “Worse CEO List” merely because she made a symbolic impassioned, false statement about the Planned Parenthood videos.
 September 29, 2015 at 10:19am
Carly Failorina is nothing more than a revisionist Liar. Go back to 2008 and look at her statements. And she should have been personally prosecuted as a crook with the booking of fraudulent deals at Lucent and illegal sales to Iran. But you’ll look past the Facts because she lied about the Planned Parenthood videos and you like that. Low information voters like simple minds will be taken by people like Carly Fiorina everyday.
FIORINA BELIEVES IN MAN-CAUSED GLOBAL WARMING
In a series of interviews from 2008 (when she campaigned for John McCain) to 2010 (when she unsuccessfully ran for the Senate against Barbara Boxer), Fiorina parroted left wing talking points on carbon credits, wind and solar energy sources, and the damage humans are causing to the planet via global warming. As recently as this year, she asserted that climate change is man-made. During her Senate campaign, she also refused to endorse California’s Proposition 23, which would have suspended the economy-destroying AB32 global warming law.
“It is clear they acted fraudulently and unethically — and perhaps illegally,” Ah yes when someone points out the FACTS and the TRUTH you walk away from your so called evidence and attack the person. The FACTs are Sir that it has now been identified that the “Long” version of the videos were also edited…. so much for truth and honesty from the christian community. And it is also a FACT that 5 state investigations undertaken in republican hostile states that would no doubt manufacture evidence if they had to found NO, NONE, ZERO evidence to support criminal, medical ethics or health regulation violations. At the end of the day the symbolic “outraged” from the conservative christian community does not offset the fraudulent behavior of these individuals who did in fact violate ethical standards and criminal codes. They are akin to prosecutors who ignore civil rights of the accused, manufacture and/or withhold evidence….. and as that far worse than anyone they accuse.
I'll ask you again JCrooked....
Please outline the fraud in the videos.
You avoided me on this request last week with great energy and tried desperately to divert attention elsewhere.
I'll ask you again....please outline the fraud in the videos.
 September 29, 2015 at 9:52am
Of course they ignore any increase in tax receipts based on increased disposable income within the middle class. But what I like about Trump is that he is a business man and will make the tough choices to insure it is revenue neutral. Like increasing the top rate back up to 35% if that is what is necessary and cut wasteful defense spending and corporate welfare for companies like Exxon and large corporate farms.