DesertRose… As you can see this is not a group that recognizes or appreciates facts. I am always amazed at how many people will quickly answer that they nor the US would accept a war ship from another country 25 miles off our coast. And of course after acknowledging that they have a hard time explaining or justifying why Iran or any other Arab country aren’t justified in reacting to a US fleet of warships 25 miles off their coast everyday. The US needs to get out of the middle east and focus on investing in itself and is people. We have been at war and killing “enemies” in the middle east for over 10 years and the result has been a growth in terrorism, instability and needless deaths of countless people on both sides. But despite that you still have wingnuts suggesting attack and invade Iran, with of course no sense or concern for what the outcome will be. Other than knowing they will blame any violence that occurs as a result on the next group targeted to keep the war machine and its suppliers going and getting wealthier.
[-1] April 22, 2015 at 2:41pm
And if your going to comment on world affairs you should read and listen to something other than crap put forth by Rush, GB, fox news and wannabe news & opinion sites. Nothing has hurt the US standing in the world more than the unjustified invasion of Iraq, a sovereign country. And Bush Sr., made it clear to his son that his inability to construct a coalition similar to the one for Desert Storm was and good indication he was wrong. And if you actually did read you would know that Isis has killed far more muslims than christians or individuals of other faiths. And the lack of killiing a high number of jews is indicative that there is no wide conspiracy across arab countries to wipe out Israel. It is rather sad to see an obviously biased individual cheapen herself to get airtime by saying something so consistent with fox news propaganda. Sorry to see that her career is going so poorly.
April 22, 2015 at 2:14pm
This story, the nonsensical tweets and majority of comments reinforce that our society is in a state of de-evolution. As shown by the 7th. grade mentality of thinking that pointing out that someone is flying on a plane on Earth Day somehow counterbalances a complete awareness and recognition of science. Somewhere around 8 MILLION people fly on planes everyday and guess what the incremental pollution from one additional passenger is meaningless in terms of the impact of continuing to rely on fossil fuels where we don’t need to.
Wrong. Most of us posting here, I'd bet, understand full-well that a single person flying in AF1 or not flying in AF1 has a near-zero effect on the cumulative effect on pollution given that 8 million (or however many) people are flying on a given day.
The common sense side of this discussion has, perhaps, eluded you. For YEARS, Nye and the pro-Environmentalist movement have been pounding into our heads that we must stop doing all these environmentally damaging things like the gratuitous use of cars, trucks, and airplanes. For the purpose of this post, let's just say that all the climate change concerns ARE real, man IS the cause, and man MUST do something to change the inevitable outcome of our current course. How are we supposed to take Nye seriously when he THEN goes up in a B747 just to cruise around? Or any other person, famous or not, who acts in such contrary ways to the way they say "the people" should live, as if they're not part of humanity? That, JRook, is why we use the word "hypocrisy".
Lastly, your closing line about not needing to rely on fossil fuels is the most ridiculous part of your post. Of COURSE we need to rely on fossil fuels. There is NO SUBSTITUTE (yet) for coal and petroleum-based fuels. Unless...maybe there IS a conspiracy by Big Oil...
NOW who's the conspiracy theorist? I mean...the US government couldn't keep the F22 design secret from the Chinese...and we're supposed to accept they can keep alternate fuel technology under wraps?
 April 22, 2015 at 2:07pm
“The fact that idiot JEB BUSH still touts it shows you how OWNED/CONTROLLED he is.” No it shows what a bunch of BS you statement is about being developed and forced on states by progressives. Take a 1 week break from listening to Rush’s, GB’s and fox news BS and actually read about how common core was developed. And it wasn’t a bunch of communist, socialist progressives. Anything and I mean Anything that significantly raises the bar with respect to education and student performance is something we should adopt as the other developed countries are increasing the gap in terms of how much better their educational system is preparing their youth for the future. While we have ideological and belief driven morons who’s big idea is to add intelligent design to the curriculum. Are you kidding……Math, Science, English, Technology, The Arts, Foreign Languages and Phys. Ed are the only subjects that should be taught, and taught at the highest level possible. And for those students who can’t keep up transfer them to a trade school and provide them with some skills at least. For those who can keep up, pay for their advanced education to whatever level they can perform at. Education like Healthcare is a social good and the capitalist model clearly doesn’t work. When the average student and family can’t afford to send high caliber students to college, the system has failed.
[-1] April 22, 2015 at 1:56pm
The station described her reputations as “popular and academically distinguished.” Ok you see a real journalist would have researched performance measures for the principals school rather than merely copying and pasting some comment by a TV news channel, particularly if it is fox. But alas this story is a great example of why this issue like many is not discussed or debated on the Facts, but on perceptive statements. Sounds like the “over the hill” principal was more concerned about school evaluation rather than bringing US educational standards up to those in other developed countries. Countries which by ANY measure are doing a better job now of educating their youth. “Every good teacher I know is leaving.” Really exactly how many is that?
Leftist argument: Bash Foxnews. Check. Call his target a liar. Check. Say his opponent is devoid facts without giving any of his own. Check. Try to be as douchey/snarky as possible while coming up woefully short. Check. Whine about a problem that his ideology has been instrumental in creating. Check. Use a voluminous amount of words to say absolutely nothing. Check.
This issue is all about facts. I did notice that you didn't bring any, which is odd since you are complaining about a lack of facts. But I understand, they don't usually matter to y'all anyway. I assume you aren't around many teachers, based on your last sentence. Therefore, I declare this conversation a pointless waste of time. Good day to you,sir!
 April 22, 2015 at 1:47pm
You are correct that it should not be associated with race. But if you are a policeman you can’t claim some “Stand Your Ground” BS that I felt threatened. Police should only be allowed and justified in shooting someone when they are threatened with deadly force or are protecting an innocent bystander who is being threatened by deadly force. And I guess by Snowleopards “facts and figures” we can also now end the debate regarding which group is committing the most crimes that require police to shoot.
[-5] April 22, 2015 at 1:41pm
Oh, but your ok with a rancher who threatens federal marshals with a group wielding automatic weapons after deciding to not pay grazing fees he had agreed to and paid for 20+ years. So at what point in your mid does the rancher who is guilty of violating federal law and the legal agreement he signed somehow not give up his right to an easy arrest?
You are really hung up on that one aren’t you JR?
In the words of someone whom I’m sure you admire greatly, “What difference, at this point does it make?”
The rancher didn't threaten anybody..... Nobody had automatic weapons... Why base your arguments on lies?
If the rancher were actually guilty of anything, wouldn't he have been arrested by now?
The federal bullies were backed down and humiliated in that instance and the rancher remains a free man.
JRook got his definition of "automatic weapon" from Don Lemon.
Actually, somebody DID have automatic weapons - The FEDS.
 April 22, 2015 at 1:33pm
Incorrect the police should have obtained his license plate and radioed ahead for a road block. To engage in a high speed chase, fire shots and then attack the guy when he pulls over is beyond any reasonable protocol in this situation. They guy ran a stop sign which does no justify taking action that endangers the public and amounts to brutality.
The bike rider endangered the public when he took off, and as far as the cops go, they didn't know if perhaps he was wanted for something worse. Face it, a forty mile chase at those speeds is fairly stupid to avoid getting a ticket for driving with a suspended license and blowing a stop sign. That was not rational behavior on the part of the biker.
 April 22, 2015 at 1:27pm
” the shift manager said the restaurant tried to get her to pay back the stolen money and then fired her after she refused.” Don’t let this small business hide behind some BS policy. So is this how people think small businesses should treat their employees… Yes or No. It’s really that simple and this woman should received an absurd amount of money in punitive damages so that other businesses begin to value their employees as much as they do themselves.
The company required her to remove cash from the register and place it in one of those depository safes under the counter after a certain interval or certain amount had been collected. She didn't follow the policy. That was her fault. She simply didn't do her job. What the criminal did is irrelevant. The company incurred the larger theft loss because she didn't do her job. Although it was inhumane and abominable to terminate her, it was justified and she will not be successful in getting a single cent of "punitive damages" in any court. It was certainly bad publicity for their business, and that may end up costing them, but completely legitimate.
no. it is extortion.
Placing money in the vault sounds like a manager's job. What are they doing to justify their existence?
[-5] April 22, 2015 at 1:17pm
Seriously you should read more as productivity has gone up dramatically over the past 40 years, while wages have been stagnant. “Income inequality has grown over the last 30 years or more driven by three dynamics: rising inequality of labor income (wages and compensation), rising inequality of capital income, and an increasing share of income going to capital income rather than labor income. Recent history, especially since 2000, has shown that wages and compensation for the typical worker and income growth for the typical family have lagged tremendously behind the nation’s fast productivity growth. The hourly compensation of a typical worker grew in tandem with productivity from 1948–1973. After 1973, productivity grew strongly, especially after 1995, while the typical worker’s compensation was relatively stagnant.” so the only possible conclusion is that the suppliers of capital and business owners have maintained and increased their incomes at the expense of the workers since 1973. That is what explains the concentration of wealth.
Lets say for a second everything Rook said is true still have to love LIB logic "...Jarrett was joined by Philadelphia Mayor Michael Nutter, who supports the law now, but previously vetoed it citing concerns about the recession..." The lib mayor vetoed it because of recession concerns but now with Jarrett by his side apparently those concerns no loger exist???? IT"S LAUGHABLE! DUH I"M A DEMOCRAT DUH!
[-9] April 22, 2015 at 1:09pm
As an independent I consider the issue without the pre-programed response you see from the ideological zealots on both sides. First, and foremost any business owner who was concerned about productivity and the well being of their employees would recognize that a couple days pay for one individual yields better overall productivity than a sick employee who causes a number of employees to get sick. Sick employees are not nearly as productive, and having 4 or 5 out sick certainly doesn’t improve productivity. That’s over and above having some degree of concern for the well being of the employee. If you aren’t aware of that or can’t do the associated math, perhaps you shouldn’t be running a business. And second, the business owner should receive compensation for the work they perform in the company plus a fair ROI for the capital they have invested. And those two amounts should not come at the expense of paying a fair wage for the workers who are generating the income and providing them with reasonable benefits. So I’m willing to have the debate with any business owner who is honest enough to provide what compensation they are receiving from the business. Because if it is higher than average at the expense of the workers then you are what you are. And it isn’t an entrepreneur. Kinda like a slum lord who makes an undeserved amount off of disgusting properties.
"the business owner should receive compensation for the work they perform in the company plus a fair ROI for the capital they have invested."
...under Jrooks plan, it doesn't appear that there is a business "owner"
That is just not true. I have several friend who run small companies and make a good living. However, they spend as much as they make. Their spending keeps schools, and small business open. One who owns an environmental recover system makes 3000,000 grand after taxes His employees earn an ave of 70 grand.. He spends 300,00 grand plus a year. Why should he cut back on his life style?
As an independent- hahahahahahahahahaha. Youre so FOS it aint funny. Spare us the zappa like lecture. We know you by your fruits. It's too late to claim independence. Youve been a shill here for so long, most people wont even respond to you.
The debates over. And youre a plastic banana.
haha and the ever present "fair" keyword.
If I own a business, I take what I want. If you can get a better job, get one. Want more money, or a "fair wage" do a better job.
Rookie- hang it up dudey. It dont work. Join a union.
"First, and foremost any business owner who was concerned about productivity and the well being of their employees . . ." already has measures in place for such variables and did it all by their lonesome without government interference.
Most of what you said is correct. However, none of this is to be determined BY YOU, or any of your armed surrogates.
If a business owner treats their employees like crap, they won’t work for him (or shouldn’t). If the business loses productivity because of poor Human Resources practices then they’ll go out of business against their more productive competitors (One of many of Circuit City’s final nails in their coffin). C'est la vie.
Government jackboots and their guns, shouldn’t be telling men who to hire, who to fire, what to pay, when to pay, when to give time off, what to charge and what to accept as payment, and by the way to accept all the financial risks as failure in spite of their meddling. Unless.. of course.. you’re “Too big to fail”, then you get to be like GM, Goldman, and AIG and suck down funds from the public treasury.
Stop micro-managing everything under the sun and stop being obsessive control freaks.
Everyone is going to be sick from time to time. If someone has sick time available then they can use it to stay home and get better rather than work while sick and infect the rest of the staff.
Of course these are the same employees that you want to pay so little that they can't afford to buy food, or fix their vehicles; but on top of that you want them to lose money when they are sick.
If the employee isn't being paid an amount that allows them to at least maintain then it is akin to slavery. As Jrook stated, you are a slum lord, who profit off of the hard work and misery of those less fortunate.
Being forced by government, at any level, to "compensate" an employee with paid sick time, or a "living wage" based on an arbitrary determination of what a minimum wage should be, removes the employer from the decision-making process for their business.
The business owner-as-employer assumes all of the risk of failure, but sees their reward (profit) forcibly reduced by law, whereas the employee, who shoulders none of the risk of failure, gains, with no attendant benefit to the employer. That is, there is a 50/50 chance that the employee will be sick and need to use the paid leave, but it is a 100% certainty that the employer is obligated the cover the costs of the new, higher wage or compensation.
I believe that a well-conceived benefits package will attract and retain good employees, but the decision to compensate an employee should be left to the employer.
You do the math!
April 21, 2015 at 4:38pm
And how lame do you have to be to post the same story 3 – 4 times. How’s about a focus on the company who makes the monitor in terms of their negligence in providing some degree of device security.
[-2] April 21, 2015 at 4:35pm
Now show some pictures of the industrial milk cows from the US that can’t even walk due to the disfiguring that occurs from the hormones that are pumped into their bodies to produce more milk. Actually, the celebration on Wall Street when a new DOD project is announced is far more noticeable and much more of a waste of tax payer money. And of course let’s not forget the celebration of the lobbyists for the large food producers and food suppliers when they get congress to increase the funding for foods stamps. Which is at the end of the day a welfare program for the food industry which gets to sell $50 billion of food that would otherwise go unsold at 100% of the retail price.
JRooky, you stupid lying fool!!
Learn to speak intelligently about something or shut up!!!
You conjured a grotesque image of dairy cows in the US which does not exist!!!
The hormones used to increase milk production do not cause deformity in those cattle!!
You are as full of it as a factory xmas goose. How do those cows get into the milking parlor from paddok or pasture, with a crane?
Those (Holstien) cows are breed for milk production, they are breed to support and carry an udder. This is why they don’t make great beef cattle, they have bones that are too big! Get some understanding in that leftest controlled eco Nazi two cell organ you call a brain DUDE. Try wipin’ with that PETA crap you read, get rid of two bunches of sheite at once. Geez!
 April 21, 2015 at 4:26pm
Good point but then again you have a group that has an answer that their ideology and beliefs have supplied for them and they will latch on to anything that even remotely seems related.
I share a common ideology and belief system with most of them. But, I am humble enough to know that I cannot tell God how He is to create, nor will I try to imbue Him with human limitations.
Science and Christianity are not really conflicting courses of study, one just needs an open mind and an open perspective.
Argyle, that's a very interesting comment. You start with the assumption that God created man, then claim people need to have an open mind and open perspective about science, all the while you seem to have a set perspective.
April 21, 2015 at 4:25pm
Really sounds like there was a running debate in the scientific community, but alas they hide that stuff in scientific periodicals. But please provide your reference for the 97% agreement as I’m sure it is as credible as the sources you utilize for the vast amount of knowledge you display.
CRook.... it's a sarcastic stab at all the low information Grubers out there that believe in the LIE that 97% of scientists agree on the hoax of global warming calling it settled science when it is not. Just like this was settled science and is now unsettled. Are you that obtuse that you cannot see the reference?
April 21, 2015 at 4:22pm
That’s right and he minted and forged some golden tablets for John Smith, because no self respecting Mormon would follow commandments that were written on mere stone. And of course an individual who was considered a fraud for telling people he could find them treasure, would of course not keep those gold tablets for any reason.
Or you are W-R-O-N-G AND JUST CAN'T BRING YOURSELF TO ADMIT IT?
Even more non-Mormons providing evidence for a visit of/or at least a belief in the God of Israel ....
Hebrews in the Americas 1,000 B.C.?
In 1973 I visited with Dr. Joseph Mahan in Atlanta, Georgia, an expert in ancient Indian ethnology of the southeastern Indians of the United States. He showed me samples of pottery uncovered from the waters around the Bahamas, and told me of Indian legends, including that of the Yuchis, stating they had migrated to the area of Florida and Georgia from the region of the Bahamas. According to their legends, the island sank beneath the sea and they fled for their lives.... Amazingly enough, they show strong evidence that they had contact with the Old World in historic times. They have a custom which is unique among the American Indians. They are racially and linguistically different from their neighbors. Every year on the fifteenth day of the sacred month of harvest, in the fall, they make a pilgrimmage. For eight days they live in "booths" with roofs open to the sky, covered with branches and leaves and foliage. During this festival, they dance around the sacred fire, and called upon the name of God.
...The ancient Israelites had the virtually identical custom, in many respects. In the harvest season in the fall, on the 15th day of the sacred month of harvest (the seventh month), they celebrate the "festival of booths" ....:
Ironically Jrook the Smithsonian felt much the same way about a genuine ancient artifact discovered in Ohio:
The Ohio Decalog
The Ohio Decalog, is an ancient Hebrew artifact of pre-Columbian America, found in Newark, Ohio in November of 1860 by the local surveyor and his son, while searching the rubble of a giant stone tumulus, also known as the “Great Stone Stack,” This amazing artifact has had a long and infamous history, particularly among professional anthropologists and archaeologists. It was roundly rejected at the time, as authentic, by American experts who had never been trained in old world cultures. This is still true of virtually all material with old world connections found in America even to this day. That great pile of rocks stood 45 feet high and 500 feet in circumference………..
Of course, the experts and academics of that day, following the lead of Major Powell of the Smithsonian Bureau of Ethnology …”
 April 21, 2015 at 4:17pm
Yes Amazing Science challenged and refined by science, they way it is supposed to be. Rather than starting from some ancient text and asserting that science needs to prove it wrong. Which of curse it has in many instances. Like identifying the natural event of the parting of the Red Sea. Which to begin with wasn’t the Red Sea as the Hebrew translation was the “Sea of Reeds” which is an entirely different body of water. So let’s not argue about whether a fossil dated at 3.4 billion years has evidence of life or not, as it is beyond debate that the universe and earth are more than the 6,000 – 8,000 years that the young earth clowns assert. Read some of their “evidence” if you want a good laugh. My favorite is the assertion that if Niagra Falls is only 4,000 years old, the earth is only 6 – 8 thousand years old, as if the age of any one geological formation has anything to do with the age of the earth. Or even better is the notion that the light from stars that are millions of light years away was placed in the earth’s sky when God made them. I mean seriously, a statement like that is beyond ludicrous.
Beyond debate? Only in your little neatly ordered world, one in which it is safely beyond any discussion of God, yes? Given the unsettled nature of 'settled science', this little ol' fossil that isn't a fossil after all not withstanding, it might be a rather interesting adventure to consider some of the alternatives that are available. The speed of light being a constant for one. There is gathering evidence and scientific support for reconsidering this pillar of scientific 'truth'. What does it hurt to consider the ramifications of scientific thought should this new theory prove to be true. All dating methods getting thrown into a cocked hat for one scenario. And given the math involved in the reconsideration, it turns out that the mathematical description of the resultant graph of all known calculations for the speed of light is a very small number describing what is known as a co-secant squared graph. That little factor, when multiplied by the estimated 15 billion year age of the universe becomes a number a wee bit over 6000 years... amazing isn't it?
And then to your flatfooted statement about the Red Sea crossing. The Gulf of Aqaba is part of the Red Sea, not just the Sea of Reeds. There is a point in that gulf where the sea bottom is only 200 feet or so deep. Divers have found the remains of Egyptian chariot wheels there. There are also pillars on either side of this spot that are attributed to Solomon and were commemorative in nature. Also amazing..
Wow J, you take interesting physics discoveries and come out with a 6000 year old earth. Do you think this may be a bit off? Do you think if this actually had any weight to it there might be more of an outcry? answers in genesis and creation.org will rot your brain. It's a bastardization of science.
[-1] April 21, 2015 at 3:56pm
This story highlights another “Social Pathology” of ideological and belief zealots. That is where they utilize their ideology and beliefs as the context rather than a legitimate context. As the legitimate context would be to identify the number of immigration mistakes of other administrations going back to say Reagan. No doubt pete being the consummate professional did the research on crimes committed by immigrants going back to the Reagan administration, but didn’t have the time or space to reference it here.
JCrook - I see you're following troll #1's hypocrisy. Reagan didn't open the borders - the Democrat Congress did. Through non-partisanship (Google it - I know you haven't heard that word in 6 years), Reagan agreed to terms with the Dems if they agreed to close the border. Which of course they did not stick to their word. So instead of pointing the finger at Reagan like an imbecile, you should be pointing it at the Dems.
[-8] April 20, 2015 at 12:35pm
“and a Canadian bank that paid more than $1 million to former President Bill Clinton in speaking and consulting fees. The bank was a shareholder in the Keystone XL pipeline; however, it doesn’t seem like it could have had significant influence, as the pipeline has been held up by a long State Department review.” So of course in the instance of something we are in favor of the made up link between contributions to the foundations and state department policy isn’t true. This is exactly what is wrong with this country. Groups and organizations pay individuals like this to write propaganda books that infer something rather than actually prove it. Because to actually prove it the author would have to show beyond a reasonable doubt that the outcomes would have been different or better yet inconsistent with the other information or factors surrounding the outcome. Which of course he can’t and doesn’t do. If the Republicans and their conservative owners spent half as much time coming up with policies that actually benefit the PEOPLE, they wouldn’t need to engage in fascist propaganda. It is a well known adage that someone who spends the majority of time on the attack, is protecting themselves from the attention being focused on their political links and their own performance. We don’t need critics who are against everything and anything, we need leaders to do the people’s business. Not the people’s religion, not the people’s ideology, not the wealthy’s bidding.
 April 20, 2015 at 12:23pm
And I would have thought the novelty of drinking for the sake of getting drunk would have worn off after junior high, but the level of alcoholism in the US across all demographic groups indicates that it hasn’t.