User Profile: LestWeForget

LestWeForget

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  • [1] March 5, 2015 at 7:50pm

    Gita,
    Saint Pope Peter, if we are being specific.
    Lest

  • [1] March 5, 2015 at 5:39pm

    Zip,
    All I see is retreads of the same tools of the enemy.
    Get back to me with answers first. You know the questions I’m referring to. The ones I ask before you drop off a conversation or change the subject. You’ll do that if you actually believe in giving a defense for your beliefs. So far you only cut and run every time you are asked by any Catholic or Orthodox Blazer. Bold as a lion you are not. Except in the 1 Pet 5:8 sense it seems.

    Catholic beliefs have been explained and you’ve been pointed to Church teaching at the Catechism that can answer every single question you have. To say otherwise is to lie.

    Compared to you who won’t explain your belief in the Bible and you won’t admit you are JW. So, who is ashamed here?

    St. Michael defend us in battle. Jesus is Lord.
    May the Holy Spirit (God) bless you.

  • [1] March 5, 2015 at 2:02pm

    Zip, you mistake it being a problem to defend when really it is just a waste of time to do so with you. We’ve given dozens to hundreds of scriptural, Apostolic and ECF responses by now. Hours spent. Proofs from 2000 years of history. You haven’t eyes to see or ears to hear. There is no point.

    You WANT to continue to believe your bias is true. The authority of the Church is too great a threat for you to consider. (If the Catholic Church is true, who is most threatened by it? Does Satan fear a unified Catholic Church or a confused chaotic divided 30,000+ denominations church? ) You won’t pray to the Holy Spirit or be docile to Him. No one can force you to. So when it is clear you won’t hear us, we have to shake the dust. Scripture says so.

    If you love Scriptures, love them enough to find out where the Bible came from.
    Your circular logic “Scriptures are true therefore Scriptures are true” is not a tenable position. It’s a house of cards, collapsing on itself.

    Explain why your Bible version is true.

    Explain where in Scripture it says every belief must be in only 66 books and spelled out in acute detail.

    When you admit you can’t do any of that, then let us know because you will be more ready to listen.

    Until then, I’ll remind you LOVE doesn’t deceive, accuse, divide, twist, accuse, hate the Eucharist, disparage Mary.

    St. Michael, defend us in battle.
    God bless.

  • [1] March 5, 2015 at 9:55am

    Zip,
    Read your posts and convince yourself you don’t talk like an egomaniac but a humble soldier of Christ.

    You are either getting worse or finally letting your soul show. These aren’t Christian virtues. The Holy Spirit (God) doesn’t prompt any of them:
    ACCUSING
    Invoke the words satan and demonic in reference to Catholicism.
    Catholics say “Get Back, Satan.”
    FEAR
    Spirit of fear is not of God.
    DECEIVING
    You say these things in conjunction with lies, a) claiming no one has give you an explanation for these attacks AND b) that certain practices such as praying for the dead haven’t been practiced throughout history.
    DIVIDER
    Trying to pit uninformed Christian readers against other Christians.
    TEMPTER
    Goading Christians to respond to your attacks and lies
    TWISTER
    Using Scripture for your personal negative ends, rather than to bring Christ more fully into the world
    ANTI-EUCHARISTIC
    Working very hard to condemn the Church (EO included) which brings Jesus to mankind, body blood soul and divinity. The Church is a hospital for sinners. It’s sad that you spit on God’s gifts in the Sacraments.
    ANTI-MARY
    Jesus loves Mary. Satan hates her. Ask any exorcist. Protestants call a Catholic priest to exorcise when their efforts fail. Their tools: Priesthood, Fasting, Sanctity, Holy water, Eucharist, Catholic prayers, Crucifix, Rosary, Intercession St. Michael AND MARY, etc.

    If you are “Bold as a lion” while persecuting Jesus, we recall 1 Peter 5:8.
    St. Michael defend us in battle…..

  • [15] March 4, 2015 at 9:51am

    The “Episcopal Bishop” will fight for property but not for God’s Word.

    Exhibit A and I rest my case.
    Jesus will judge.

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  • [1] March 3, 2015 at 8:24am

    Zip,
    Do I trust Jesus who said he’ll never leave the Church? Yes.
    Do I trust Jesus who said His Church will never be destroyed? Yes.
    Do I trust Jesus who said the Holy Spirit will guide the Church into ALL TRUTH? Yes.
    Do I trust all of that happened to bring us the Bible through the Church? Yes.
    Do I trust that 1500 years later a man with emotional problems could decide to cut out 10% of the Bible and leave it to everyone to interpret for himself, doing as the devil does to divide. Confuse, Accuse, which goes against God because Truth can’t contradict Truth? No.

    Your answers are No. No. No. No. Yes.

    When you wrap your brain around that, get back to me. Until then, you can’t pretend to dominate understanding of scripture while denying the first four questions and affirming the fifth without any justification.

    Go in peace.
    God bless.

  • [1] March 3, 2015 at 8:07am

    Paul,
    We were talking about the shroud and how relics are Biblical.
    Don’t acknowledge. Introduce a new subject.
    Listed something false and called it Catholic teaching. I corrected you.
    Don’t acknowledge. Introduce a new subject.
    Therefore, there is no point in continuing until you are ready to hear and accept the answers.

    Relics have been venerated since the beginning, then when the Bible was canonized 300 years later, the Bible texts said relics have great value. Fact. Bottom line. New religions can’t take it because vine/severed. Miracles from relics continue in the Catholic Church. Never stopped.

  • [2] March 1, 2015 at 5:59pm

    Zip, all I can say is may the Almighty God bless you.
    Have a blessed evening.

  • [1] March 1, 2015 at 5:02pm

    If your personal relationship leads you to say the things you say, the relationship may not be as personal or relationy is you think.

  • [1] March 1, 2015 at 4:39pm

    okay, Paul, but when you were a boy, your parents (whose job it is to pass on the faith) didn’t explain things very well. Holy Marys don’t forgive sins, Jesus does. (so glad I could clear that up and you will never have that false idea to mention again.)

    Intercession and the communion of saints ARE scriptural. Mary is with God in heaven as a saint. The saints offer prayers for us. In fact the prayers of the righteous count for much. Those in heaven are without sin (they are righteous). Read up. Whoever told you intercession of saints is unscriptural probably has hate in their heart toward the Catholic Church – so much they are willing to lie to you, even against Scripture. Pray for them.)

    Catholics believe, same as you said, Jesus is the Way the Truth and the Life and no one goes to the Father except through the Son. (How’d you miss that when you were Catholic? Time to read some Church history: 2000 years is alot to cover but the Councils, the ECFs, the Catechism are places to start.)

    Catholic teaching agrees with the last sentence of your post. I’m glad at least some Catholic teaching remains in your current religion.

    God bless, Paul. I don’t think we are that far off on this issue with the shroud. I just don’t have fear about false worship because as a Catholic I know there is One God, that He loves me, that He sent His son to save me, and that worshiping anyone or anything would be a mortal sin. I would think all Christian religions teach that.

  • [1] March 1, 2015 at 3:47pm

    Elisha’s bones
    Jesus’ tassels
    Peter’s shadow
    Paul’s handkerchief
    countless people healed miraculously through contact with relics, even today,
    These all beg to differ.

    But you have spoken.
    You have made it clear that your personal interpretation limits God to being the Father and the Son, already denying the Trinity, so we can also understand how you prefer that He be limited in how He can use relics to inspire, heal, and bring people to Jesus. Got it. Zip says God is not allowed to, or powerful enough to, use material.
    Or preserve, guide, and remain with His Church.
    Of course, I call that blasphemy, but there’s no arguing with you. You’ve spoken.

  • [1] March 1, 2015 at 3:35pm

    Paul, Who’s making the argument to worship the shroud? I don’t know any Christian groups that do. God’s Word, though, shows it is right to venerate / revere holy relics. Mk 6:56

    Do you have a signed jersey or baseball? Do you respect your wife and tell her you love her? Do you really enjoy your morning cup of coffee? Do you admire a parent or a person from history? Do you worship any of these things?

    If a person’s faith is so fragile that he can’t trust himself not to worship an object, that may be a defect in that individual’s faith (or mental health state), not the fault of Scripture or God’s ways to touch His people. You sound like a person of faith that is NOT susceptible to making that error. Don’t worry so much, then, you won’t accidentally worship it if it’s really the cloth that enveloped Jesus after he died for our sins.

    If relics were inconsequential to God’s healing people in the Bible, Scripture wouldn’t have specifically mentioned them. God healed them and he used the means and method of the relic. Of course the man dead brought to life by touching Elisha’s bones didn’t do it as an act of faith. He was dead.

    While I think you are genuinely trying to give all credit to God, which is right and pious, you are in actuality hamstringing Him by asserting what material means He can and can’t use to heal anyone He well pleases.

    Jesus became flesh.

    Christians aren’t dualists.

  • [1] March 1, 2015 at 11:04am

    “dusty old rag”
    Gee, Zip, if you are wrong and this is a real gift from God that he left behind, you will regret your profanity.

  • [1] March 1, 2015 at 11:03am

    Paul, sorry but that makes no sense.

    Jesus was both dead on Friday AND alive when we rose on the third day, Sunday.

  • [1] March 1, 2015 at 10:59am

    J-Mo, Warren is right. Your facts are old news, scientifically shown to be wrong. Look to the liberal media to make a news blast of the old news and never correct the record. Their agenda reeks.

  • [1] March 1, 2015 at 10:55am

    blink, you may not be up on the latest. It’s been retested. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcKTkjWkqEU

  • [1] March 1, 2015 at 10:50am

    Venerate, not worship. Worship is for God alone. No one should worship objects, but holy objects such as relics can inspire the faithful and heal, through the work of God. It’s Biblical. See Matt. 9:20-22, Acts 19:11-12, 2 Kgs. 13:20-21.

    The shroud is mentioned in the Bible, what do you mean not biblical?

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  • [1] March 1, 2015 at 10:47am

    Researchers have both cloths. The Shroud and the Sudarium.

  • [2] March 1, 2015 at 10:41am

    How many heresies can a person follow all at once? It’s astounding. Nontrinitarianism, Gnosticism, Dualism, Iconoclasm, Marcionism, and Manichaeanism! More?

    “So Elisha died, and they buried him. Now bands of Moabites used to invade the land in the spring of the year. And as a man was being buried, lo, a marauding band was seen and the man was cast into the grave of Elisha; and as soon as the man touched the bones of Elisha, he revived, and stood on his feet” (2 Kgs. 13:20-21).

    BONES. aka RELICS had “value” enough to resurrect.

    “And God did extraordinary miracles by the hands of Paul, so that handkerchiefs or aprons were carried away from his body to the sick, and diseases left them and the evil spirits came out of them” (Acts 19:11-12).

    HANDKERCHIEFS, APRONS. SCRAPS. RELICS healed many. How? God allowed it to be. Can hankies heal apart from God? No! So clearly this practice is OF GOD.

    Rejecting relics when the Bible affirms them? “Pick-and-choose Biblism.” It’s not to be taken seriously and nothing further to say. Case closed.

    God bless.

  • [1] February 27, 2015 at 5:15pm

    To be candid, I don’t know but I sure hope I would listen. Beyond that, I hope I would FOLLOW. But, alas, like everyone else, I am a sinner.

    I don’t know. That’s why Catholics take the role of the crowd during Pontius Pilate’s offer to release one prisoner. “Crucify Him. Crucify Him.” It makes you think.

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