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LestWeForget

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  • [2] October 23, 2014 at 3:13pm

    Many thanks, Irish-Basque, for identifying one more anti-Catholic we may intercede for.

    You poor child, your comments show .. approximating hilarity.. that you’ve never learned what Catholics actually believe and do. Who hates Jesus so much they’d lie about His Church to you?

    Fortunately, there is no need to depend on deceivers for information and avoid finding out the Truth, because you can read the Catholic Catechism, a Catholic Bible, all for free right after you log off of the Blaze.
    Catholic.com is another good resource.

    Until then, we Catholics have to pray, “Father forgive them, they know not what they do.”

    God bless.

  • [1] October 23, 2014 at 9:42am

    Roscoe, since you’re starting out in a brick box of defensiveness, you’re asking the wrong persons for help. Get on your knees and ask the Holy Spirit to help you.
    Ask your guardian angel to help you.

  • [9] October 23, 2014 at 9:35am

    Blazers, he/she can’t be too anti-Catholic, using such a Catholic screen name: “Via Dolorosa.”

    So many don’t know what Catholicism is, they just make an idol out of insulting the Church. I can’t speak for Via Dolorosa, but many anti-Catholics repeat lies they’ve heard, long enough to convince themselves it is the will of our Lord to refuse to learn about and come into the Church He founded, and to continue their personal protest, despite His prayers for unity. One of the devil’s great achievements is division in Christiandom, and separation of so many from the life-giving Eucharist.

    Always good to meet an anti-Catholic so we Catholics can know to pray for you. We want everyone to come Home!

    God bless.

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  • October 22, 2014 at 10:17am

    Rom 16:17, 1Cor 1:10, Mt 16:19, 2 Pet 3:16, 2 Pet 1:20-21….

    “But [it has, on the other hand, been shown], that the preaching of the Church is everywhere consistent, and continues in an even course, and receives testimony from the prophets, the apostles, and all the disciples…For in the Church,” it is said, “God hath set apostles, prophets, teachers,’ and all the other means through which the Spirit works; of which all those are not partakers who do not join themselves to the Church, but defraud themselves of life through their perverse opinions and infamous behaviour. For where the Church is, there is the Spirit of God; and where the Spirit of God is, there is the Church, and every kind of grace; but the Spirit is truth.” Irenaeus, Against Heresies, 3:24 (A.D. 180).

    “Those, therefore, who desert the preaching of the Church, call in question the knowledge of the holy presbyters…It behooves us, therefore, to avoid their doctrines, and to take careful heed lest we suffer any injury from them; but to flee to the Church, and be brought up in her bosom, and be nourished with the Lord’s Scriptures. For the Church has been planted as a garden (paradisus) in this world; therefore says the Spirit of God, ‘Thou mayest freely eat from every tree of the garden,’ that is, Eat ye from every Scripture of the Lord; but ye shall not eat with an uplifted mind, nor touch any heretical discord.” Irenaeus, Against Heresies, 5:20 (A.D. 180).

  • October 22, 2014 at 10:05am

    Mom,
    The authors of the books I recommended lay out the Catholic Church’s teachings in a format that is easy for fundamentalists and evangelical to understand because it speaks their language.

    You asked about a dozen questions and I can’t answer all of them in this awkward format. I sent you to catholic.com because all of those questions have been answered (with Scripture) and once you are there you will think of new questions and can read about them too. They also do radio shows for nonCatholics to call in and ask anything they want.

    I don’t know much about Islam, it’s not comparable to Catholicism.
    I don’t know why you believe that any Catholic would believe the scriptures lie. That would make no sense. Our faith is built on Tradition, Scripture, and the Magisterium (teaching authority). We have a high view of Scripture, view it as the infallible, inspired Word of God, and have been preserving, teaching and propagating the same 73 books for over 16 Centuries.

    The Holy Spirit guides us into truth but if we interpret against the interpretation of 2000 years of Church teaching, then it is we who are wrong. The Church has authority we were never given. We can be misled by our own wills, the world, or the devil disguised as an angel of light. But Jesus makes promises to his Apostles that come down through the Bishops. The Holy Spirit isn’t contradictory so where there is disagreement, the authority (the Church) settles it. 1 Tim 3:15, Heb 13:17, 1 Cor 5:5, Mt 18:17-18

  • October 20, 2014 at 3:50pm

    LCDR –
    ran out of room.
    final note;
    If you want to effectively prosletyze Catholics you have to learn what they actually believe first or else you won’t be taken seriously.

    Study the Catechism.
    Try reading the Early Church Fathers.
    Try reading Catholicism and Fundamentalism by Karl Keating.
    Countless other resources.
    Otherwise, you are spending time pulling them away from things that aren’t really there, that they don’t believe anyway. And you have nothing to offer them that they don’t have in its fullness in the Church.

    You need to inform yourself first exactly as to what Catholics believe, if you believe you are doing the work of the Holy Spirit.

  • [1] October 20, 2014 at 3:47pm

    LCDR –
    This is going to have to be it for me. Too many hours and your heart is not open to hearing what the Lord has for me to tell you. I’m turning you over to the Holy Spirit in my prayers.
    1. Gates of hell. Remnant. If you want to hang your hat on an invisible remnant you can’t verify or trace rather than the one, holy, catholic and apostolic faith, then best of luck. I hope you pick the right remnant of the thousands that claim to hold the truth.

    2. Those would be Church fathers. Yes, read them. A little head start: http://www.catholic.com/tracts/peters-primacy

    3. You quote scripture well but it’s your interpretation that lacks truth. How did you type that and not see that you made my point? Despite their well-known hypocrisy, he points to their authoritative teaching. So, criticize Bishops all you want, they have authority. Sorry you got excited for nothing.

    4. We are all called to be saints. Persevere to the end, then, let’s.

    5. You are a stranger. It’s not for me to say whether the Holy Spirit dwells in you.

    6. Purgatory is scriptural. http://www.catholic.com/blog/tim-staples/is-purgatory-in-the-bible

    The Hail Mary is quoting scripture, which you know is alright. http://blessedjp2.com/totus-tuus/where-is-the-hail-mary-in-the-bible/

    Prayers for us from the saints? Rev 5:8, Rev 8:3-4, for a couple. Mary isn’t the mother of God? Luke 1:43 says otherwise.

  • [1] October 20, 2014 at 10:51am

    LCDR –
    Again you skip what I write and I try to reply in order. This is unjust of you. Extremely tiring but I’m trying to show you good faith so that you will know what it looks like.

    1. It’s not a red herring. If you say the Church went wrong and Luther had to reinvent the wheel, then the gates of hell prevailed. If you can’t say when this happened, then it didn’t and the Church is still the one Jesus founded and Luther was without authority. You can’t say the Church is wrong and not be calling Jesus a liar.

    2. Aramaic. History is clear. You have to look at ancient history, not 500 year old or less protestant history. Read Early Church fathers.

    3. Christ quoted scripture and interpreted it correctly. He also said listen to the Pharisees just don’t do what they do. He pointed out the seat of Moses. Just as we have the Chair of Peter. Authority. Jesus had authority as God. His Apostles received authority from God. That’s how they could interpret the Old Testament correctly.

    4. You’ll see I never rejected the term saints for the living. I only teased you because you don’t like the idea of Catholic saints in heaven.

    5. I don’t reject that. The Holy Spirit is not constrained.

    6. Amen to quoted scripture. Catholics affirm it all.

    7. Should you judge my soul and the state of my salvation? Catholics believe Jesus is the judge.

  • October 20, 2014 at 10:43am

    LCDR-
    Do you see what you did yet again?
    How can you converse that way?
    If your daughter talks to people that way, it would be no wonder people avoid her because she wouldn’t be actively listening or engaging in a give and take good faith conversation.

    Can you address things earlier in my reply before moving onto your next point?

    Where is scripture does it say we will answer the question “Why should you be allowed into heaven?”

  • October 20, 2014 at 10:38am

    @Entrix,
    Yes, intercession. The mother asked Paul VI to pray to Jesus for her and her baby. The miracle is God’s but the intercession is attributed to Paul VI.

    here are two defenses to read if you wish to understand further:

    http://www.catholic.com/tracts/praying-to-the-saints
    and
    http://www.catholic.com/tracts/the-intercession-of-the-saints

  • [2] October 20, 2014 at 9:49am

    LCDR-
    Some articles on paganism claims, as I can see how that concerns you. Just two so as not to overwhelm you. If you have specific pagan practices in mind, use the search feature on that website. It has probably been addressed before. Good luck.

    http://www.catholic.com/blog/jon-sorensen/the-early-church-fathers-and-paganism
    http://www.catholic.com/magazine/articles/paganism-prophecies-and-propaganda

  • [1] October 20, 2014 at 9:41am

    LCDR-
    Thank you for the questions. I’ll post and answer.
    “Gita and Lest, do you receive the Holy Spirit when you are saved as a Catholic?”
    A: Yes. At Baptism and again at Confirmation.

    “How are you saved as a Catholic?”
    A: By God’s Grace.

    “Do you read your Bible?”
    A: Every day. Also, we cover nearly the entire Bible at Mass in 3 years.

    “Do you study your Bible?”
    A: Yes of course.

    “As far as the Catholic Bible goes. Does it contain the Book of Revelation?”
    A: Yes

    “Weren’t there many books that were not considered to be part of the original message, a perversion of the truth when the books of the Bible were first assembled?”
    A: Depends on what you mean by “First assembled” but at the councils of Hippo and Carthage lists were produced by the Bishops that had all 73 books of the Catholic Bible in it. A quick example is St. Jerome doubted certain books but deferred to the Pope’s authority and translated them into the common language anyway in the early 5th Century. Though St. Jerome was a Bishop, he noted the primacy of the Bishop who resided in Rome.

    “I am not saying Catholics do not have the Spirit or are not saved but I question the paganism in Catholicism and it’s claim to be the only church. Don’t you think God can handle it on his own. He did create the universe.”
    A: In a word: History. It’s anti-pagan and it’s apostolic. Eastern Orthodox are also.They have valid sacraments. To be deep in history is to cease to be Protestant – frmr Anglican minister JHC Newman.

  • [1] October 20, 2014 at 9:28am

    Mom,
    you said: “We must stay true to the gospel of Christ because Satan will do anything to be worshipped as God and from the moment he could he used men to pervert the Good news. So Jesus is the author and finisher of our faith. Do not add to it or subtract from it.”

    But you are using a Bible that was altered and subtracted from.
    You subtracted the necessity of the Eucharist, as well.
    You added the idea that the Bible alone is the faith. That’s a man-made idea not found in Scripture.
    You make yourself infallible interpreter, against scripture’s teaching that you can’t do that.
    the list goes on.

    I don’t doubt you love God, I just don’t know how you have these rules against adding or subtracting, and the “finisher of faith” that you don’t yourself follow.

  • October 20, 2014 at 9:22am

    Mom,
    I take offense that you say Catholics don’t write about Jesus, yes. Your refusal to admit you are wrong is your pride. Not my sin.

    The Holy Spirit indwelling in a person helps them to avoid sin and repent when they have hurt someone.

    Consider this fraternal correction.

  • October 20, 2014 at 9:19am

    LCDR-
    Your conditions for a cult are irrelevant.
    Catholics believe neither and fought against such heresies successfully.

  • October 20, 2014 at 9:17am

    Mom,
    Thank you for all those questions. By some of them I see you have been told some whoppers. It is good to ask these questions and even better to seek the answers. I do warn you that exploring the answers leads many to conversion. They find they’d been sold a pack of lies, and discover the gifts Jesus bestows on His Holy Church, especially the Eucharist. If you genuinely interested in learning the Catholic answers to such questions, I have several resources for you.

    Catholicism and Fundamentalism, by Karl Keating
    Catholic.com (start here)
    Catechism of the Catholic Church (online)
    The Protestant’s Dilemma – Devin Rose
    Surprised by Truth (1 and 2) – Patrick Madrid
    Rome Sweet Home – Scott Hahn

    God bless.

  • [-1] October 20, 2014 at 8:42am

    LCDR –
    Where in Scripture does it interpret itself that way? Scripture says it is hard to interpret 2 Pet 3:16, 2 Pet 1:20-21., Acts 8:31, Heb 5:12. There’s more.

    Where in Scripture does it say God will one day use a disgruntled priest named Luther to violate his sacred vows and bring about the true faith?

    Where does it say the gates of hell would prevail, but not to worry because in 1520-something a sinful, troubled man would be more successful than Jesus, establishing a true Church because Jesus got it wrong and the Holy Spirit couldn’t guide it into all truth as God promised. And that that true Church would look like 30,000 different “denominations” and disunified preachers?

    What year did the gates of hell prevail? (5th time to ask?)

  • October 20, 2014 at 8:30am

    LCDR
    Do you realize you took my concluding sentence and started a new topic. How can people have good faith conversations like that?

    I try to answer you in order of what you typed. It is basic respect to do the same.

    Saint Pacian put it best in the 300s, saying Christian is my name, Catholic is my surname. I will let Pacian explain. http://iwka.wordpress.com/2010/08/13/christian-is-my-name-but-catholic-my-surname/

    You didn’t answer whether you now understand how to properly interpret 2 Tim 3:16.
    As your own interpreter of scripture (which it is un-scriptural to be), do you not think you follow mere men…I mean, a mere man…yourself?

    What Paul is saying in the next passage you quote about Apollos and himself is, in part, that the Church is not about the cult of personality of the preacher, each man going in disparate directions, but the Church is the faith founded on Jesus.

    What has happened is division. It’s not of God. Some chose to leave the foundation where they received meat, to drink milk. Avoid those who cause schism Rom 16:17. Let there be NO divisions among you 1 Cor 1:10.

    Faith is not meant to be practiced alone. Jesus left a shepherd for a flock. Where do you get the me, Jesus and my Bible idea?

    If the division in Christianity were of God then it would mean the Church Christ founded went wrong. When did the gates of hell prevail against her?

    Do you know any Catholics? Find some knowledgeable ones who can tell you about life in the sheepfold.

  • [2] October 20, 2014 at 12:10am

    LCDR,
    The description of the place sounds right but the language is wrong.
    Cephas is Rock in Aramaic.

    The Greek author couldn’t really translate that into a female name – petra.

    Peter was asked three times to feed Jesus’ sheep. Sounds like a shepherd.
    Peter was given the keys to the Kingdom. Sounds like a Steward (do you know your OT?)
    Peter was given authority to loose and bind doctrine that even heaven would hold to. Sounds pebbly.

    Peter was praised highly in his Aramaic name.
    then given a strong Aramaic name
    then given great power.

    You want to swap the middle with an insult. Did our Lord speak that way? Does that even fit any Biblical renaming pattern? When God renamed Abram, was he blessed or mocked? When God renamed Jacob, was he blessed or belittled?

  • [2] October 20, 2014 at 12:02am

    LCDR,
    discussing Luther and Revelation is awkward since he held it as uninspired.

    He said of it:
    “I say what I feel. I miss more than one thing in this book, and it makes me consider it to be neither apostolic nor prophetic. …I can in no way detect that the Holy Spirit produced it. …And there are many far better books available for us to keep. …Finally, let everyone think of it as his own spirit leads him. My spirit cannot accommodate itself to this book.”

    From his introduction to Revelation. See how he decides for himself which books to think inspired and not, and advises each man for himself to do the same? Let’s rid ourselves of Matthew and Philippians. Let’s allow our spirit to lead us wherever, since of course, the spirit is going to lead us all to different truths. Right?

    No. Only an evil spirit does that. The Holy Spirit doesn’t do that.

    This is what, in 2 Tim 3 (which I know you know) Paul warns about. Verses 1 – 9. lovers of selves, unholy, without natural affection, false accusers, despisers of those that are good, traitors, high-minded lovers of pleasures, who turn away from godliness, who creep into houses (or convents) and lead captive silly women, ever learning and never able to come to the knowledge of truth.

    How to avoid the false doctrines of such men? St. Paul tells us! In the passing on of authorized teaching – Apostolic succession. The Church, the pillar and bulwark of Truth.

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