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LestWeForget

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  • [1] July 16, 2014 at 9:44pm

    In the Jerusalem Temple with two turtledoves offered as a sacrifice, a month or so after circumcision? That is the example of the Holy Family. Altering the particulars significantly, would be wo/man-made-tradition.

    Did the Apostles dedicate babies or baptize entire households?
    Did Jesus say, “Let the little children come to me, never hinder them” or “Hinder the little children from coming to me, make them wait until they can reason”?

    Just some things to think about, since your post intrigued me. May God bless you. I mean that.

  • [1] July 16, 2014 at 9:17pm

    Amen.
    Always.
    Full agreement.

  • [9] July 16, 2014 at 4:50pm

    Which verses indicate that Cornelius didn’t have any underage children when his entire household was Baptized at his request? Or that none of his household servants had babies or toddlers? If you see Baptism as a choice and a symbol rather than a means of saving Grace, you won’t see the Catholic viewpoint (or Lutheran, or OE, or Anglican).

    If the purpose is symbolic then the age matters. If the purpose is salvational, then the age matters even more. “Let the children come to me. NEVER HINDER them.”

  • [4] July 16, 2014 at 4:40pm

    You will find good answers to these questions by studying the early Church. Recall the pagan culture. Ours is pagan nowadays, too.

    It’s a minor exorcism which occurs as part of the rite of Baptism.

    The Catholic Catechism says
    1237 Since Baptism signifies liberation from sin and from its instigator the devil, one or more exorcisms are pronounced over the candidate. The celebrant then anoints him with the oil of catechumens, or lays his hands on him, and he explicitly renounces Satan. Thus prepared, he is able to confess the faith of the Church, to which he will be “entrusted” by Baptism.

    That is step one. It doesn’t detract from our Lord, it points to the fact that in Baptism, the Lord’s victory over sin and death (i.e., satan) is shared with all the Baptized, as we are reborn, free from such bondage AND made part of God’s family as adopted children.

    I hope that was helpful in some way.

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  • [3] July 16, 2014 at 3:04pm

    Curious as to what you mean. He wore a camel shirt, ate locust and was beheaded. EEEEk. :)

    On a serious note, John the Baptist said Jesus must increase so I (JtheB) must decrease. He didn’t want to draw attention away from Jesus which is the One for whom he (JtheB) prepared the way. It is Christ who founded the Church, not JtheB.

    Like I said, I am curious as to how “figuring it out on your own” is how JtheB operated. He was a great prophet and received his call and authority from God. That is a special vocation no man can claim for himself.

  • [5] July 16, 2014 at 2:56pm

    WHY would parents select “godparents” who weren’t active in their faith?

    By definition, godparents are responsible for raising these children in the faith if the parents fail to or cannot do so.

    WHY would the Anglicans soften their words to appease lukewarm or barely-there Christians? The real problem is with the godparents not the rite. Correction, the real problem is with an ecclesial community that caters to public opinion.

  • [9] July 16, 2014 at 2:48pm

    @Captain.Dakkar,
    I hope you’ll give some thought to reading conversion stories of Anglicans, including many priests, who converted to Catholicism and hear their reasoning and how they wrestled with various issues. The common element is typically Authority. Which they finally understood was a Good thing. With a capital G. (from God.) Come home to the Catholic Church.

  • [1] July 9, 2014 at 11:01am

    I think I have a different understanding of what Glenn is saying and I admit I may just bee too long gone from his shows to know what he meant.

    I agree we don’t compromise, but we can bring light to darkness by starting from a common point. A common baseline. You don’t “convert” (so-to-speak) an atheist using Scripture, you find their language.

    I was interpreting Glenn’s words as, we live with the light of Christ and go where the Holy Spirit needs us, to bring more hearts to Christ.

    I see what you are saying, which is more based on the interpretation (of Glenn’s comments) that we live side-by-side with evil. If that is what he meant, then I agree with much of what you said.

  • [-1] July 9, 2014 at 10:01am

    We Christians have a phrase that Jesus always meets us where we are. St. Paul was able to convert many pagan Greeks by appealing to their philosophical belief in the “unknown god”. He taught them about the One True God.

    Remember Jesus performing miracles for Gentiles and opening His Church beyond the Jews to them? The Holy Spirit guides the Church to reach all the nations. Disciples are sent to evangelize and spread the Good News. One way to do that is to speak the common language of natural law. For reasons I don’t understand, many protestants don’t even believe in natural law, so right there, an opportunity is lost.

    I don’t know if any of this is what Glenn is talking about, but let’s don’t jump on him like he’s coming up with something that isn’t already in Scripture and in perpetual existence since the Early Church.

  • July 9, 2014 at 9:50am

    part ii
    It was during that period of continued sin, leading up to the destruction of Jerusalem in 586 B.C., that they had “become like one who is unclean”–they hadn’t always been like that. In this state, even the nation’s acts of righteousness appeared like filthy rags to God, so he wouldn’t help them: “When you spread out your hands in prayer, I will hide my eyes from you; even if you offer many prayers, I will not listen. Your hands are full of blood; wash and make yourselves clean. Take your evil deeds out of my sight! Stop doing wrong, learn to do right!” (Is. 1:15-17 [NIV]).

    See that? Do. Stop DOing wrong (deeds). Start DOing right. Repent, become clean.

    We do not perform good works in order to enter a state of justification. n fact, it is impossible for an unjustified person to do supernaturally good works, since these are based on the virtue of charity (supernatural love), which an unjustified person does not have. Good works therefore flow from our reception of justification; they do not cause us to enter a state of justification. Good works increase the righteousness we are given at justification and please God, who promises to give us supernatural rewards on the last day, including the gift of eternal life (Rom. 2:6-7, Gal. 6:6-10).

    Most of this is from The Rock magazine 1995.

  • July 9, 2014 at 9:46am

    @NewLife24, Friend, the “filthy rags” reference needs context to understand it. Proof-texting fails to convey God’s Truth.

    In context the passage says: “Since ancient times no one has heard, no ear has perceived, no eye has seen any God besides you, who acts on behalf of those who wait for him. You come to the help of those who gladly do right, who remember your ways. But when we continued to sin against them, you were angry. How then can we be saved? All of us have become like one who is unclean, and all our righteous acts are like filthy rags; we all shrivel up like a leaf, and like the wind our sins sweep us away. Your sacred cities have become a desert; even Zion is a desert, Jerusalem a desolation. Our holy and glorious Temple, where our fathers praised you, has been burned with fire, and all that we treasured lies in ruins” (Is. 64:4-6, 10-11 [NIV]).

    This pertains to a particular historical situation, not to a general condition. The passage appeals to a time when Israelites once had a right relationship with God, when God helped them against their enemies because they waited on him, gladly did right, and remembered his ways.

    to be cont’d

  • [1] July 9, 2014 at 9:31am

    @ChristAlive,
    Bless your heart because you clearly love the Lord and are thankful for His redeeming sacrifice, but you are demonstrating the danger of private interpretation and schism. Jesus left a visible Church with a teaching authority to prevent His people from falling into error. PLEASE read on!

    “Then Jesus began to denounce the cities in which most of His miracles had been performed, because they did not repent.” [Mt 11:20]

    “Woe to you, Korazin! Woe to you, Bethsaida! If the miracles that were performed in you had been performed in Tyre and Sidon, they would have repented long ago in sackcloth and ashes. But I tell you, it will be more bearable for Tyre and Sidon on the day of judgment than for you. And you, Capernaum, will you be lifted up to the skies? No, you will go down into Hades. If the miracles that were performed in you had been performed in Sodom, it would have remained to this day. But I tell you that it will be more bearable for Sodom on the day of judgment than for you.” [Mt 11:21-24].

    “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven….I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!” [Mt 7:21-23].

    “Your stubborn refusal to repent is only storing up retribution for yourself on that Day of retribution when God’s just verdicts will be made known. He will repay everyone as their deeds deserve.” [Rom 2:5-6]

  • [1] July 9, 2014 at 9:23am

    How do you infer Glenn discussing the path to salvation from the article?

    Every Bible believing Christian should know how important good deeds/good works are, and not muddy the waters and confuse souls by suggesting it doesn’t matter how we love our neighbors and the Lord, or how we fail to.

  • [1] July 9, 2014 at 9:16am

    @Arch,
    What did you mean here, in the quote below? Can you rephrase it or explain further what you’re saying?

    “Any true Bible believing Christian would not be encouraging people of other faiths to get more involved in them.”

  • [2] July 9, 2014 at 9:13am

    It’s the same God, Who never changes.
    But, I think I get your point!
    (smile)

  • July 6, 2014 at 10:34am

    @singingcowboy
    What do you mean by “your past adherents”?

    You selected 1 Cor 3:12-13. We Catholics believe in Purgatory, too, in which our works are tested by fire. And 1 Cor 3:15, If any man’s work is burned up, he will suffer loss, though he himself will be saved, but only as through fire.

    No pastor (from whom most Protestants learn their theology) would lovingly put-down/insult/dissuade from good works unless he wanted his people to be saved “only as through fire.” ouch.

    I’m not sure you have any idea of what the Catholic Church teaches based on your two posts.

    After rejecting the heresies of Pelagianism and Semi-Pelagianism, the Church continued under the guidance of the Holy Spirit, later producing at the Council of Trent, this: CANON I.-If any one saith, that man may be justified before God by his own works, whether done through the teaching of human nature, or that of the law, without the grace of God through Jesus Christ; let him be anathema.

    CCC 1996 Our justification comes from the grace of God. Grace is favor, the free and undeserved help that God gives us to respond to his call to become children of God, adoptive sons, partakers of the divine nature and of eternal life.

    This is what the Church teaches on Baptism. http://www.usccb.org/beliefs-and-teachings/what-we-believe/catechism/catechism-of-the-catholic-church/epub/index.cfm

  • [1] July 4, 2014 at 4:35pm

    I wonder if there is a place to see the lyrics so non-LDS Folks could know if this was similar to Messiah In America album which is based on Mormon beliefs. Many Christians wouldn’t feel comfortable buying songs about God without first knowing what was contained on the lyrics. Please post of those lyrics are available. Thanks and happy Independence Day!

  • July 4, 2014 at 8:51am

    Bet you can’t even define “perv” without referring to God’s laws, Hormel.

    Praise God that Christian sinners who repent can still have eternal life.

  • July 4, 2014 at 8:48am

    Good posts, 808.
    Amen & God Bless

  • [1] July 4, 2014 at 8:46am

    @janiesmiles, yeah, like when Mao was in charge.

    ahhhh, the peace of atheism.

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