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LestWeForget

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  • March 25, 2015 at 2:34pm

    P8riot,
    Billions of Christians have answered, some with blood, for nearly 2000 years. It’s not that no one has answered, it’s that the answer doesn’t fit the image of God you’re taught.

    The Church fought heresies denying the Trinity long before she established a canon of scripture because the Church is the pillar and foundation of Truth. If the Church can err on a matter so foundational, then you have no reason to trust your Bible. The Trinity is a mystery and Christians confess it to be a mystery. Justin Martyr(151 AD) wrote

    “We will prove that we worship him reasonably; for we have learned that he is the Son of the true God himself, that he holds a second place, and the Spirit of prophecy a third. For this they accuse us of madness, saying that we attribute to a crucified man a place second to the unchangeable and eternal God, the Creator of all things; but they are ignorant of the mystery which lies therein” (First Apology 13:5–6).

    The promise of Family Forever is advertised by the LDS church. It’s a goal for good Mormons, and steps to obtain it are defined and followed. Sealing ceremony, keeping temple privileges, Mormon women new name, etc. Once a man becomes a god, he & his wife expect their family to be together forever but what if the sons become gods, or daughters’ secret names are called by their exalted husbands?

    Together or their own realms?

    Christians believe we will all be together forever w/the Triune God as the Church Triumphant & Bride of Christ.

  • [1] March 24, 2015 at 10:13am

    P8riot,
    I recommend you look up the meaning of the word “Person” with regard to the Trinity before you assume anything further.

    I have some questions, you are to worship Jesus Christ (3 Nephi 11:17; 2 Nephi 25:29), but at the same time ONLY “heavenly father” (Moses 1:15-20).

    Is this a contradiction?

    Who was “Heavenly Father” before he became a god? Who made him? Are there any references in your scripture to an eternal God? What happened to this god’s physical children from when he was a man like you? If Stephen saw Jesus with the Father, you might say that suggests family forever. Do Mormons believe Jesus was married and sealed? If so then shouldn’t he have his own planet? Why would he be with the Father, limited to the Father’s realm?

    An appeal of Mormonism is “family is forever”. The natural end, though, is if you raise your kids to marry other mormons and be sealed to them, you can’t be together forever. The men get their own realms, therefore they’d not be in yours. True or false?

    I hope there is a logical explanation for this. No LDS has been able to answer but if this is a major teaching, there ought to be an answer, I’d hope.

  • [1] March 21, 2015 at 9:18am

    @Snooop
    You “forgot” because it should be such a given that you’d think others would know that. But we underestimate the anti-Catholic indoctrination that goes on out there. Wolfish Pastors want the Protest to continue and they do themselves and others no favors. May God have mercy on them.

    There aren’t 100 people….[we all know the rest] – Fulton Sheen

  • [1] March 20, 2015 at 2:13pm

    @J
    I wouldn’t claim to know what the Holy Spirit had in mind in the election of Pope Francis.
    I’ve heard many cultural Catholics are rediscovering a partial version of Jesus in the nondenominational movements in C & S America.
    The appeal is understandable.
    The proselytizing of already churched people isn’t.
    Evangelicals add to their ranks in doing that but bring no one new to salvation. Their efforts should be on bringing the heathen, the pagan, the atheist to Christ, not taking existing Christians from the Eucharist and other Sacraments. A net loss.

    Charismatic Catholicism is growing but if you know anything about the mystics of the Church, you’ll know this isn’t new in any way, just more out in the open than before. The Holy Spirit gives gifts that build the Church and bring people to Christ.

    With what you’ve said your friend sounds Orthodox not Catholic in union with Rome. Denying defined doctrine/dogma is usually a grave sin.

    Do I understand the Bible? On my own, only what the Holy Spirit helps me understand. The rest I don’t have to be my own pope for. I can rest safely in the Church, the pillar and foundation of truth.

    God bless.

  • [2] March 19, 2015 at 5:36pm

    @J
    And regarding going to God directly?
    We should do that too. We do both.

    Instead of, no.
    Venial sins are forgiven through the Eucharist.
    only Mortal sins have to be confessed, though it is advisable to confess venial sins too, for strength/grace we receive in the Sacrament (on top of the forgiveness).

    I hope that helped.

    By the way, you’d be surprised how many Catholics are big Bible readers. We hear almost the entire Bible proclaimed at daily Mass in 3 years’ time.

    God bless.

  • [2] March 19, 2015 at 5:32pm

    @J
    If I read it right, parts of this story don’t add up.

    If these Catholics are devout enough to refuse to receive the Eucharist (per Paul, not receiving unworthily) before confessing a Mortal sin, they would be devoted to their faith enough to know this priest just profaned not one but TWO Sacraments.
    The reaction I would expect from such a laity would be a reporting of this priest to the Bishop. Not a bum rush.

    Where else are there gaping holes in this story as recounted to you?
    A guest priest wouldn’t say “I don’t have time to hear confessions” because that is the job of their parish priest, not the guest priest.

    It is probably a liturgical abuse to say something like that during communion. (A separate reportable offense for the Bishop to rectify.)

    In some circumstances, priests may offer general absolution, which is what you described. It is rare and I don’t believe it would take place during the holy communion portion of the Liturgy. Did he do this After Mass and then offer communion afterwards? Before Mass?

    If so, that would clear up the problems I have with this story. Please read this article. If the parish priest had been away with no hearing of confessions for some length of time, this may have been permissible under Canon law with the Bishop’s approval. In this case it’s licit and valid.
    http://www.catholicherald.com/stories/Straight-Answers-Is-General-Absolution-Allowed,6730

  • [2] March 19, 2015 at 10:24am

    @J
    Does it make it more clear to know Catholics don’t perform good works or keep the commands on their own power or initiative? All good works are from God, we merely cooperate with His Grace to do the good works as He wills. May God’s will be mine.

    When we sin, that is us. He prompts us to repentance so we can be in His Grace again, and able to let His works flow through us.

    The commands matter. Our ability to keep them is from God through whom all things are possible. Our failure to keep them is from our wills going against God’s perfect will.
    Catholics have taught salvation is a free gift for 2000 years and fought heresies that said otherwise. If people claim Catholics think we can earn salvation, they are grossly misinformed at best or bearing false witness on purpose at worst.

    Catholics, speak up if I expressed that poorly. I want only to express the teaching of the Church in simple terms and not my own theology.

  • March 19, 2015 at 10:07am

    @Gita
    Hadn’t heard about awestruck. Thank you for the point-out.
    Ever notice satan has no new tricks, just as there are no new lies against Jesus’ Church? He tempts the proud and they bite the apple. Thinking their doctrine is divine, but it is built on sand, as this article shows. Division after division, slipping down the hill. Thank God for His Church on the Rock.
    I pray the Divine Mercy Chaplet frequently. Praise God for the font of Mercy he pours out. We will need it.
    St. Joseph, pray for us.
    God bless.

  • [1] March 19, 2015 at 8:37am

    @Gita,
    It’s easy to believe people who preach with exciting speech patterns. Look at Obama voters, Obamabots. Glenn says Question with Boldness. What’s more important than politics if not the state of one’s soul? Why don’t they love Jesus enough to question what they are still Protesting? What the Church really teaches not their pastor’s self-motivated “trust me, this is what they believe, you don’t want to become Catholic and leave my congregation. Now pass the collection plate.”?

    300 years ago they had the excuse of not knowing any Catholics. Today, the Catholic Catechism is online for free. People have Catholic neighbors, even in the south. The excuses for innocent ignorance are going away.

    May God have mercy on our separated brethren.
    May they allow God to reach them and bring them home to His Church!
    God bless.

  • [1] March 19, 2015 at 8:10am

    Amen, Snooop1e!

    That was a fine post, my friend.
    God bless

  • March 18, 2015 at 6:13pm

    firearm,
    any update on this topic in Methodism? I read a while back many hi ups support it.
    not aware of status.
    not angling. just curious.

  • [1] March 18, 2015 at 6:11pm

    uh, hi, you can’t write off the denomination for what one sinner did to a child. Every church has sinners, that’s the whole point. That has nothing to do with the truth or untruth of a religion. God forbid you sin and the person next to you in the pew quits because of you. Do you sin? I do. I kind of thought we all did. Some worse than others, but offensive to God and failing to love.

    I don’t know what a “Bible church” is – did a local committee compile the Bible? Write it? Did God give your pastor the unique authority to interpret and teach this Bible he compiled? Where in the Bible is that authority? Where did he or she go to school? Did someone there have authority to teach him or her what every verse means 100% correctly? What if this pastor dies? or Moves? or divorces and remarries? What if he’s giving his OPINION of interpretation? How will you know?

    Have you ever considered with the church of your childhood you were young and not as wise as you are now so not able to remember or understand anything deeper than “just have faith” at your PC church? Maybe that is all they taught, but I highly doubt it.

  • [1] March 18, 2015 at 6:00pm

    {Whisper {marriage isn’t private}}

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  • [2] March 18, 2015 at 5:59pm

    TBjohnson,
    ooooooo. I’d be interested in hearing a contradiction between doctrines in Catholicism.
    Really interested. It’s a claim I’ve never heard before, unlike the others which are pretty standard Baptist teaching, including not mentioning {whisper} {where the Bible came from. shhhhh}

  • [1] March 18, 2015 at 5:48pm

    Presbyter_Ian,
    Can you explain what you mean by “faith alone”? I can’t find it in my Bible except in James where it says “we are not saved by faith alone.”

    Are you saying You don’t believe some sin leads to death?
    Are you saying It’s okay to be unrepentant and to choose to continue in sin until the time of death?

    Salvation is a free gift.
    In your theology, how does God know we’ve accepted it?

  • [1] March 18, 2015 at 2:49pm

    Reform:
    Staying in the thing you are improving because it is True.

    Revolt (erroneously called “reform”):
    Leaving the thing that needs improving because you think your truth is truthier, and starting your own man-made religion. When revolt is packaged as reform, it must be put in quotations to signify so-called “reform.” It may be a good marketing trick, but is false advertising.

  • [1] March 16, 2015 at 1:13pm

    What I’ve learned in the last few days:
    -what Paul means by a clanging cymbal
    -you don’t have a list of churches that are true (the start of this thread)
    -you don’t know why Scripture is true or complete
    -you persecute Jesus and won’t heed admonitions
    -you like living in sin and judging others from on high
    -you want attention. I’ve given it to you. I’ve been wrong.

    We have the Eucharist. We have Jesus. We have His Church. We have all of Scripture. By the Grace of God and all glory to God.

    You offer some scripture with your twisted view of it intermixed with angerhatepride, all glory to yourself, equating yourself with Jesus in boldness and wisdom.

    In other words, He offers eternal life, you offer death.

    I will continue to pray for your soul, so far from God you don’t realize it. The devil can’t conquer the humble. He can completely take over the prideful and tell them how right and great they are, even against Jesus’ 2000 year old Church.

    I feel such compassion for you. May God have mercy on your soul, as I ask, may he also have mercy on mine for my sins and offenses.

    Tell the “spirit” talking to you that I will do an act of reparation for you. Your spirit fears you learning the truth. Be not afraid. Jesus saves.

  • [1] March 16, 2015 at 9:34am

    Thoughts on which to meditate:

    “What made our Lord Jesus Christ lay aside his garments, gird himself with a towel, and, pouring water into a basin, begin to wash the feet of those who were below Him (John 13:4, etc.), if not to teach us humility? For it was humility He showed us by example of what He then did. And indeed those who want to be accepted into the foremost rank cannot achieve this otherwise than through humility; for in the beginning the thing that caused downfall from heaven was a movement of pride. So, if a man lacks extreme humility, if he is not humble with all his heart, all his mind, all his spirit, all his soul and body – he will not inherit the kingdom of God.”
    St Anthony the Great

    The devil told Abba Macarius one day, “It is because of your humility alone that I cannot overcome you.”

    These come to us from Desert Fathers, uttered decades before the Bible was compiled by Catholic Bishops.

    God bless.

  • [1] March 16, 2015 at 8:47am

    Zip,
    In a quick scan I see you quoted from the Bible.
    Why?

    How do you know any of the books you quote are Scripture?
    You must have missed it, a gaggle of non denominational preachers removed Matthew, James and Revelation from the Bible on Saturday. Next week they are debating Thess & Hebrews.

    I turn you over to our Lord to save you because when you speak to others made in the image and likeness of God, you are devoid of the Holy Spirit which inspires only truth, but you don’t stop lying about what Catholics believe; The Holy Spirit is not afraid but you fear answering for your belief in the canon of Scripture. The serpent had men like you in mind when he tempted Adam and Eve and promised them “special knowledge” like you claim. Something tells me this will seem like a compliment to you. Be clear, it’s admonishment. Lost sheep.

    Sáncte Míchael Archángele, defénde nos in proélio, cóntra nequítiam et insídias diáboli ésto præsídium. Ímperet ílli Déus, súpplices deprecámur: tuque, prínceps milítiæ cæléstis, Sátanam aliósque spíritus malígnos, qui ad perditiónem animárum pervagántur in múndo, divína virtúte, in inférnum detrúde. Ámen

  • March 14, 2015 at 10:33am

    Is this satire or does your arrogance actually have no bounds? It’s fascinating.

    I’ll pass, Zip.

    Sola Scriptura says I can interpret my way, you yours. If you want to say Sola Scriptura is a heresy, you’ll have to become Catholic or Mormon.

    One more problem. You can’t have Sola Scriptura without Scriptura. How do you know what belongs in or out of Scripture?

    Apocalypse of Peter?
    Apocalypse of Esdras?
    Book of Moses?
    Ecclesiastes?
    Esther (and what chapters)?

    How does Zip know so much about interpreting Scripture if he doesn’t know where written Scripture came from? You would claim to know how to ref a Football game better than anyone even if you’d never seen the game or read its rules. You must be fun at parties.

    May the Third Person of the Holy Trinity bless you and convert you

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