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• FBI Fatally Shoots Florida Man With Possible Link to Boston Bombing Suspect

  May 22, 2013 at 11:17am

  In reply to NoMoMrNiceGuy.

  @Time_2

  Got it, thank you for the info.

• Teacher Admits She ‘Prayed Out Loud’ During Violent Tornado: ‘I Did the Teacher Thing that We’re Probably Not Supposed to Do’

  May 22, 2013 at 10:04am

  I think it’s pretty obvious that this was not a teacher proselytizing at her beholden students, but a brave and desperate woman seeking any and all protections during a time of emergency. While I very much agree with the separation of church and state, I don’t see this as a violation at all. I’m happy they made it out alive; thank God!

  If she starts her next class by saying “See? I prayed to God for you guys, and we survived, so you all should pray to God too!” then we’d have a problem. I highly doubt that will happen.

• FBI Fatally Shoots Florida Man With Possible Link to Boston Bombing Suspect

  May 22, 2013 at 9:59am

  In reply to NoMoMrNiceGuy.

  @Time_2

  “USF (Temple Terrace) is affectionately known as Jihad U. Also check out MAS-Tampa (Muslime American Society). Also remember Sami Al-Arian and cohorts at Jihad U?”

  This is why I’m confused; you focused on Temple Terrace. Both USF and MAS-Tampa are in Tampa.

  And yes, Sami Al-Arian should stay under house arrest (though I’d prefer actual arrest) for the rest of his days due to his dealings with Palestinian jihadists. Seeing that he dealt with terrorists, it always struck me as ironic that he campaigned for Bush in 2000. But on topic, looking online it seems he hasn’t be part of USF for the past decade? From wikipedia:
  “But a week after a federal indictment on Al-Arian, (USF president) Genshaft fired him on February 27, 2003 by using the indictment as legal cover to protect the university from any ensuing lawsuit.”

  I suppose I’m confused why you condemn the next town over instead of Tampa itself, which houses these “schools.” Hence why I was wondering if you had a personal interest in the area or some other information.

• CNN’s Wolf Blitzer Has Awkward Moment With Okla. Tornado Survivor After Asking If She ‘Thanked the Lord’

  May 22, 2013 at 9:45am

  In reply to jakartaman.

  @Hpygal

  “Isaiah 45:7 I form the light and create darkness, I bring prosperity and create disaster;
  I, the Lord, do all these things.

  So yea, I suppose He can “whiz” a tornado anywhre He pleases!”

  Absolutely correct. Folks who read that God is all love are getting only half the story. He is the alpha AND omega – He is the source of everything. He wants us to follow His commandments and Christ’s words, but (like with Job) this is a test of our faith, not a promise that we’ll have an easy life.

  @Patty

  ” Satan, one of the Angels, decided he wanted to be like God or God and he was exiled from Heaven.”

  Odd. My Bible doesn’t say this – the closest is in Revelation, which states a future event where this will happen (Christ obviously did not bring us salvation prior to His existence on Earth – so this could not have been an event from before His birth).

  The idea that Satan was cast out of Heaven is extra-biblical tradition – it is not found in the Bible. In the same way that people think Lucifer is Satan (Lucifer was the title given to the Babylonian king; and Morning Star is a title given to Christ in Revelation), that a snake tempted Eve (it was a serpent), that a whale swallowed Jonah (it was a fish), that the serpent was the devil (never mentioned in Genesis – added hundreds of years later to the oral tradition), that Satan was an archangel (only two times are archangels mentioned, and only one by name), etc.

• FBI Fatally Shoots Florida Man With Possible Link to Boston Bombing Suspect

  May 22, 2013 at 9:19am

  In reply to NoMoMrNiceGuy.

  @Time_2

  “Temple Terrace Florida (just outside Tampa) is a breeding ground for Islamic educators welcomed with opne arms into our Liberal Madrassa Educational Centers (Universities / Colleges)”

  Interesting. Looking online, it seems about 75% of Temple Terrace, FL is Catholic, SBC, or Methodist. Not sure what the others are (the rest says “other”), but I doubt that more than 20% are non-Christian. http://www.city-data.com/city/Temple-Terrace-Florida.html
  Do you have more information on Islamic activities in the area?

  Isn’t The_Monk from this area (or was that Tampa proper)? Kevintampa too. Are you near there as well?

• How Can God Let Tragedies Like the Okla. Tornado Exist? Pastors Weigh In

  May 21, 2013 at 9:30pm

  In reply to GhostOfJefferson.

  @Jefferson

  As usual, succinct and to the point. Right on.

  @Tengo

  “Free will. Because as well all know, we’re powerful enough to ‘choose’ natural disasters”

  You’re ignoring the Christian concept of free will. We have decided to live free to choose (or ignore) God. Bad things (and good things) will happen to test us. They are neither punishments nor blessings from God. They simply are. And we, as humans, are tasked to find God again during our lives – no matter what is thrown at us. We are called to be as Job was – steadfast in faith, no matter what we have to deal with.

• ‘Bigoted, Religious [Zealots]‘: High School Senior Allegedly Expelled, Charged With Felonies Over Gay Relationship With ‘Consenting’ Fellow Student

  May 20, 2013 at 9:39pm

  In reply to Wolf73b.

  @American Soldier (Separated)

  “COME ON! Just because its THE LAW doesn’t mean we shouldn’t stand up for common sense and to reform stupid laws!”

  Should an exception be added for those within a certain age range? Perhaps. But it still doesn’t change the crime that was committed right now. As said – it’s a shame, and I hope she receives a light sentence and no lasting impact. But “I was young and stupid” is not an excuse. I have no doubt that a change of situation could wind up with a 15 year old and an 18 year old in a much different (and worse) situation.

  I do not wish to see this young woman crucified for her actions. But she needs to own up to them. As said – 99 times out of 100 nothing would happen. But that 1 time, something does. I pray things work in her favor, but the law likely will not be as forgiving.

• Did Christian Prayers at Gov’t Meetings in This NY Town Violate the Constitution?

  May 20, 2013 at 9:03pm

  In reply to bonesiii.

  @BonesIII

  On a side note…

  I do find you one of the most well-thought-out posters on this forum. I don’t agree with many of the conclusions you’ve drawn (you may have noticed this?), and frankly I’d be worried if you were in power. But you are eloquent, and comprehensive, and that’s a sight better than many of the knee-jerk reactions we get here. I do hope that your optimism, that the country and rule as “godly but not imposing God” may happen, but after several decades on the Earth, I don’t see that happening.

  And to be fair, most of the times I don’t respond, I simply don’t have the energy. Being old is not all it’s cracked up to be. God bless – I’m off to sleep.

• Did Christian Prayers at Gov’t Meetings in This NY Town Violate the Constitution?

  May 20, 2013 at 8:59pm

  In reply to bonesiii.

  @BonesIII

  “And what is a godly government? That is a government with freedom.”

  And if this government never mentioned God? Held no prayers before meetings, had no issue with separation of church and state, freely allowed private religious worship, but did not allow government officials to push their religious views while acting in official capacity?

  I find it hard to believe you’d find this a “godly government” :-)

  “What I’m objecting to is that you keep using me to others as some kind of bogeyman that disagrees with freedom and wants to enforce the Mosaic laws or something.”

  I seem to recall I stated “other social conservatives” before, but yes – it still confuses me when you go from “godly society is all about freedom!” to “freedom is offering prayers to only God, not anything else during government assemblies!”

  “America : )”

  Currently? Fascinating. And here I thought you had an issue with the topic at hand :-)

  “Give us one example of a strictly secular nation that ever respected our freedoms for long? ”

  America :-)

  I see the issue of “big government” as separate to the moral component (and please note: I oppose big government no matter if it is secular or theocratic). Governmental overreach crosses all religious boundaries – but historically it’s been much easier to take over when you have a population believing your acts are in line with a deity.

• Did Christian Prayers at Gov’t Meetings in This NY Town Violate the Constitution?

  May 20, 2013 at 8:50pm

  In reply to bonesiii.

  @BonesIII

  “The actual creature doesn’t exist in any numbers worth worrying about.”

  If that is true, and the social conservatives on this board are in the minority, I will be quite relieved. However, that hasn’t played out in politics as I have seen.

  “Here we all are trying in various ways to get through to you that the lie about us you’ve been told is false”

  What is this “lie”? You claim we “appeal to the Almighty to defend freedom” but deny that people are trying to interject religion into politics, calling it an “urban myth.” You see the government as a “as a cohesive whole,” but then discount anyone not agreeing with your view, saying “since God is real and rewards godly nations, we should work hard to be one.” What about those who don’t believe in the Lord? What about those who have no gods? Are they unfit to be elected?

  Saying so is profoundly unconstitutional. Is that “being conservative for conservatism’s sake?” Potentially. You believe that a government made of godly men (read: those in the Judeo-Christian background) rules better than any other. But I separate my politics from my religion when necessary.

  Being a Christian does not necessarily make one a good leader. Saying “non-Christians have no moral foundation” is false – it’s likely just different than ours. In my view, God still gives them guidance – but they justify it in other ways. I’d vote in a “good” non-Christian over a “bad” Christian any day.