So you support murder I can see. Bad karma’s a pain sometimes and you got some coming your way wishing for the needless death of others is sick.
 February 10, 2016 at 9:41pm
I still ask why the rush?
Who are these people hurting? They are not close to any populated area.
They are not destroying the place and even if they did, what’s the real loss?
Why the need to “end” this? They are isolated and alone.
Heck, even if they DID happen to get away, what’s the big deal? Interfering with an officer doing something? That’s the charge against them. REALLY?
They know where they live. They know their family. Just back off, go home, defuse the situation, and let them leave. Then pick them up later if they just have to at a time of their choosing. These are not dangerous people. They have shown no inclination to violence at all.
NOOOOO, they have to show everyone who’s boss even if it means killing someone else.
Rush? This has dragged on. The locals wanted them gone long ago.
Rush? This has been going on for months. If these idiots don't want to die, they simply can walk outside and give up.
 February 3, 2016 at 3:23am
Yep we’re at the point of as good as it gets. It’s all downhill from here for the US and therefore the rest of the world and it ain’t gonna be pretty.
If you’re not already ready time has almost run out. Beans, bullets, and bandaids with some commo and skills on the side.
[-1] January 31, 2016 at 11:44pm
Prove it. Where are the pictures of it to include who it is registered to. Lavoy carried a colt 45 either on his hip or in a shoulder holster. It was not on him at the time nor in the truck according to the reports. hummm curious
[-2] January 31, 2016 at 11:41pm
Yet they do nothing and my guess is the will do nothing.
It doesn’t add to their power to decrease BLM’s power and that is the only purpose of government when it reaches the level of our government, to benefit itself and grow it’s power.
[-2] January 31, 2016 at 11:39pm
The other 3 could not easily get out of the car and according to eyewitness they were still firing at the vehicle so why would the get out then?
Dumb is also not an excuse for deadly force. It could easily have been avoided IF they had wanted to.
I do give you credit for realizing, unlike many, that this video proves nothing definitively.
[-2] January 31, 2016 at 11:31pm
How could he be a fugitive? They knew exactly where he was at all times. That’s laughable.
WHY was he running? Was he shot at as the eye witness states? That is possible and not disproven at this point.
Was he told to get out? You don’t know for sure so he could have been complying with LEO. You have no way of knowing. You’re assuming.
[-2] January 31, 2016 at 11:27pm
Were they shot at at the first stop as stated by the eye witness? We don’t know for sure.
Would you have run if you had been shot at without provocation? I would.
Is there any other possibility for his actions in the video. Of course there are and the video proves nothing definitely with audio.
Again without audio you have no way of knowing where he was told to “exit the vehicle with your hands up” as is the case with many LEO stops so your statement proves nothing it just offers your opinion.
But all these things have been pointed out repeatedly in this thread so it’s evident you have no desire for the truth since you keep repeating the same charges without any additional proof.
[-3] January 31, 2016 at 4:18am
Seems someone has no idea what the Constitution says about federal property.
Seems that little Document tells them they have no authority to own property ANYWHERE except 10 square miles around DC and military bases, ports, buildings of necessity and then the States must give them permission and can rescind that permission at any time.
Oops forgot about that little technicality didn’t you. That’s ok, the feds conveniently forget all the time.
See that’s what these folks were reminding them of when they were ambushed on the way to talk to some other people about the feds illegal, unconstitutional occupation of State land.
Funny how that Constitution thing just keeps rearing it head. Guess because it’s the law of the land that the feds just insist on breaking on a daily basis.
You know, like killing American citizens for peacefully protesting on STATE land.
I suggest you go read your Constitution to find out who the real criminals are in this story.
Be sure to read the real one now, not the one the government “interprets” for you because they do have a little conflict of interest in that respect so they are not the best “interpreters” to listen to.
I prefer the people who wrote it. I think they know better what they meant by what they wrote.
[-2] January 31, 2016 at 12:26am
No one forced the LEO to jump in front of an out of control, sliding vehicle. Stupid move by the LEO.
Now, yes, someone attempting to justify an ambush of American citizen’s when that ambush ended in the needless death of one of those citizens could certainly claim the LEO was being “attacked” with the truck. They might even make some useful idiots to believe such a claim.
However, anyone with any kind of reasoning skills would have to admit it was stupid for the LEO to leave the relative safety behind a heavy vehicle just jump in front of a sliding vehicle. Unless he had a death wish.
There are many possible reasons for his motions. Keeping his balance, reacting to a gunshot wound, attempting to draw a firearm is only one of many and if he had already been fired upon he had a legal, Constitutional right to defend himself.
Without sound you nor anyone else can make give a definitive answer to what actually happened. It’s impossible.
All you can do is speculate and give opinions. It’s just that your opinions are not very well reasoned out and appear to be present merely out of bias not a search for truth.
The LEO was headed into that area before the vehicle reached his location. He likely had no idea the vehicle was going to leave the road and was likely just moving into a position to cover the side of the vehicle when it reached the check stop.
Guy got what he wanted. One dead, quickly forgotten jabroni.
It's funny how you are completely sure of the actions and intentions of the LEO, yet have a ton of alternative explanations for Finicums movements lol. Perhaps that guy thought Finicum was going to hit tha't barricade HEAD ON and WAS jumping out of the way, how else would he have known Finicum would swerve at the last second, psychic?
[-2] January 31, 2016 at 12:15am
It’s obvious you have a bias against truth but I will point out your errors anyhow.
The LEO jumped in front of an out of control, sliding vehicle that had less than 3-4 seconds to react to a roadblock in a blind curve. Stupid on the LEO’s part but obvious from the video.
The driver hit his brakes and never let off of them trying to avoid hitting the roadblock. That shows he was not trying to drive through the roadblock nor plow into anyone. Go watch the video again. Brake lights stay on.
Once out of the vehicle his motions could come from a variety of things.
Multiple confusing commands being given to him, hands up, throw down your weapon, anything. No way to know without audio.
Attempting to keep his balance in knee deep snow.
Being shot in the left side and reaching for the wound.
Reaching for a weapon.
ALL are just a feasible as another and since we have no audio we cannot possible make a definitive decision. It’s impossible no matter how “clear” you want to think it is.
Your’s is just not a fair and accurate assessment, it’s mere speculation and proves nothing.
Also, he is shown in multiple pictures wearing his firearm on his right hip and those that know him say that was where he always wore it. Just as much a piece of this puzzle as anything else.
If you really want the truth that is.
[-3] January 30, 2016 at 10:49pm
They, the government, don’t HAVE to protect themselves, they control the narrative AND the media.
[-2] January 30, 2016 at 9:43pm
Some questions, especially for all those who think this wasn’t a government set up and possible murder but good for everyone to think about too.
Could there possibly be more video evidence, especially with sound? If there isn’t that would be negligence on their part.
Assuming there is more video, why was it not all released at the same time, if honesty and transparency is the goal? It’s just as easy to release multiple videos as it is to release one video.
I’ll give my own answers but you need to consider the questions and form your own answers based on your own information and research.
Based on past fbi events it is evident they like to seed division in the public. By doing so, it gives them cover for their actions. While everyone is discussing a single video and everyone is offering multiple opinions, they are going merrily on their way not providing us anything really definitive.
That is their goal. They never intend to be transparent until they are absolutely forced to in some way. Be it by the public, the courts, the situation, a leaked document, something must force their transparency.
That may take a week, a month, years, or maybe never.
Either way, they win. By the time that happens, if it does, the public has moved on to something else and if those that truly care bring it back up they are labeled as crazy, “that would have come out sooner if it was relevant.”
That’s their pattern every time, yet we should trust them. Nope, question EVERYTHING!
i had just got a chance to reply to this article, and you took the words almost right out of my mouth.
they viewed this video and released it to the public, knowing full well that this particular video would play to their favor. the fbi should have had other cameras rolling in this high profile case, just to protect themselves if they were in the right, when will they be released? probably after it is to late. without the sound i am not so sure this was a justified killing.
it’s a sad deal all the way around, i wish they would have listened to the two ranchers who were jailed and found a better way to make a statement…hindsight is usually 20/20
[-2] January 30, 2016 at 6:28pm
There always is when the government is involved in any way.
You can ALWAYS bet it benefits them and hurts the citizens in some way. That’s just how governments operate once they get out of control of the people. History is the absolute proof of that fact.
In the long run ALL governments end up only existing to make themselves more powerful.
Our government is no different just because this is America. We are no longer the America of the Founders and there are no controls on the federal government since the Constitution is now totally ignored.
I can’t think of even one area of the Constitution where the federal government is in 100% compliance according to how the Founders intended not how THEY interpret it.
[-1] January 30, 2016 at 6:18pm
Because, unfortunately, we are dealing with a corrupt out of control government and the truth is what they say it is. It sickens me to have to admit that is true.
 January 30, 2016 at 3:25pm
Wow, they found probably the one person who was not ticked off by having their information made public to their neighbors and now the nation. I know I would be if ANY candidate did this.
My first reaction to this notice when I saw it even before I knew who sent it out was, oh my gosh, how stupid, that would pi$$ me off.
Yes, this might be public information, although it shouldn’t be in my opinion, but we all know that our neighbors are not out there looking for it.
Some generic reminder would certainly have been much better received I would think.
Cruz cannot stand to alienate even one single voter yet he and his campaign keep doing and saying things that do just that. He is pushing away more than he is pulling in, that equates to losing.
It is very likely this originated with a "dirty tricks" outfit. They exist. A sign of willingness to go to extremes to tarnish a candidate.
[-1] January 30, 2016 at 1:32pm
Federal property? Who says?
The Constitution does not allow for the federal government to OWN that property. It’s simple, go read it. You should be able to read the entire Document in 30 minutes or less, educate yourself and then quit making inaccurate assessments.
THAT is what this was truly about the the American people are ignorant dupes that have been lied to and believe it for decades now.
Witnesses say that he was not running FROM the cops but TO the cops, a Sheriff of the County they were in and that they told the ones that stopped them so.
Dangerous how? What even remotely violent act had they committed? Name ONE?
Being armed is not a violent act but a legal, constitutional one.
Driving in and of itself is not a violent act.
He never fired a shot and never even had a weapon in his hand.
Those at the refuge had never been violent in any way nor even threatened it. They were meeting peacefully with members of the community and in fact were heading to one of those meetings when ambushed.
So based on that, almost anyone could be determined to be “desperate” by your definition.
Go watch this video if you really want to understand what this was about and why you are so terribly wrong in your assessment.
It works well in Russia... Guess we have some homesick puppies here...
[-3] January 30, 2016 at 1:11pm
The problem with your assessment is that the president and governor of oregon AGREE with what happened and gave it their blessings or it would not have happened.
Now they could always throw their underlings under the bus but that is unlikely. Government never gives up it’s power over it’s citizens willingly.
There are almost zero people in government, fed or state that believe in following the Constitution as it is written. They take small bits and pieces of it as it pleases them to give us the appearance they follow it but that is it.
This young woman gets it. Now if 10% of the American saw and understood what is in this video, we would have our Constitutional Republic back almost overnight and this kind of lawless, unconstitutional action by LEO would cease.