either you stand or you don't
she is just another politician who stands for nothing
Yea......And this argument is the same one the German officers gave in their defense of killing millions of Jews. When the big boss tells you do something. You had better do it you know. You do work for the GOVERNMENT. All your morals should be put aside when the government tells you to do something.
NEVER FORGET. Everything that was done to the Jews in Germany was LEGAL. Stand for a higher law and a higher standard regardless of where you work!!!
seek employment elsewhere where her religious liberties would be paramount.......
kinda like owning/working at a bakery......where you can stand on your religious beliefs......
OH, wait......that was already tried................
Imagine if Trump wasn't in this debate? What a barn-burner........ Squish-the-Fish.
Carly is absolutely right. This clerk is paid by the government, her job is to issue these licenses. If the massive hypocrite of a woman has issue with her job duties, she needs to quit and go work in a church.
I now know everything I need to know about this woman. She will never have my support.
What Carly Fiorina doesn't understand is the US Constitution, the Bill of Rights and the Declaration of Independence.
Since that is true she doesn't deserve to be in any elected office especially as POTUS.
Go mess up another business Carly and leave us (US) alone. We don't need your United Nations Agenda 21 and global warming ideologies or your CIA/NSA anti American viewpoints.
When principles that run against your deepest convictions begin to win the day, that battle is your calling, and peace has become sin. You must at the price of dearest peace lay your conviction bare before friend and enemy, with all the fire of your faith.” – Abraham Kuyper
The “free exercise” of religion means that you can actually live according to your religious beliefs and work. Saying, “You can be a Christian as long as you don’t act like a Christian in public. It’s fine if your pastor or the Bible tells you to do something, as long as you don’t actually do it.” is not possible for a Christian.
So we can’t obey God anymore? Is that the “price” we have to pay?
Looks like the time for peaceful civil disobedience is here. Jail anyone? –
On Carly's watch...
"...Given the fact that the government is paying her salary...."
Actually the Tax payers and not the government is paying her salary AND she was Elected to her position as County Clerk by the people of Rowan! It is up to them to decide whether she keeps her job or not. Her name actually appears on the Certificate so it is more than just an objection of conscious, issuing them says she agrees..
Have any of you read this speech given by Fiorina two weeks after 9-11? The one where she extols the virtues of Islam?
Scroll down towards the bottom where she says..."I'll close by telling a story."
Magyar: We understand both sides of the issue and don’t need any more double talk. We already have more than enough of that. Here’s how I interpret what she’s really saying and it’s basically the same defense the NAZIS used after the war; “I was only following orders.” That may sound harsh but allow me to extrapolate the matrix.
According to her, “if” you’re an employee of a government agency and the court makes whatever ruling, such as throwing away thousands of years of traditional marriage to placate less than 2% of the population, then you had better “follow orders”, or else! So it that light it’s not much of a jump to load people onto boxcars and send them to Treblinkal. After-all, the “High Court” so ruled! You must obey the law or you will be put on the next one way train.
Typical political answer. Exactly what I do not want to hear anymore. Talk about riding the fence.
The percentage of Gay men who commit murder is extremely high. Another fact that needs to be in the discussion.
If that Kentucky clerk was a black woman the gay mafia would have turned tail and run. Why isn't the black church coming to this womans defense
It depends on how clearly the law is written.
If the state law has a "shall issue" statute she has no choice.
If it's more ambiguous she my have some wiggle room.
Keep in mind she is a government employee so she does have an obligation.
(Think about the conceal weapon probs people have because of rogue gov. Employees)
Actually, being held to the 1964 civil rights case which protect religious rights, the state is required to either allow here to continues as she while allowing another person who does not object to preform that duty in the office or allow her to find another position that allows for her not to compromise her religious values. An employer is required to make a reasonable accommodation to a qualified individual with a disability unless doing so would impose an
undue hardship on the operation of the employer's business. Undue hardship means an action that requires significant difficulty or expense when considered in relation to factors such as a business' size, financial resources, and the nature and structure of its operation. If the state does not have the ability to do so, they may fire her and provide just compensation for the loss of the job and potential benefits.
The 1964 act is quire clear about this protection of her rights.
Since she did have those values before the government changed the law, she is entitled to protection under that act. The Law provides this protection to both private and public sector employment.
On that note, Carly, screw you. You just lost 50 percent of your base right there.
I'd like to say I care what she thinks. But I wasn't going to vote for this Dimwit anyway. President Trump just keeps sounding better and better. Trump/Cruz 2016!
Yep, I think she may now miss the cnn debate. She missed this by an alarming MILE
This is why she's the best candidate. Good for her, agree completely.
well said ... goodbye and good riddance .. your liberal slip is showing..
How is your non existent logic superior to hers? She provided a very logical and well thought answer, you just put her down without providing any logical reasoning. Would you like it if a judge decided that they didn’t want to give out a gun license (assuming they did)? The judge is sworn to make the best judgement based on the law, not their personal opinion. If you want to change the law, you do so through through the appropriate channels. This judge is pushing her opinion through like 0bama decided there should be a federal tax mandate called the Affordable Care Act.
The Kentucky county clerk facing potentially stiff penalties for refusing to issue same-sex marriage licenses has been married four times, raising questions of hypocrisy and selective application of the Bible to her life.
The marriages are documented in court records which show that Rowan County Clerk Kim Davis divorced three times, first in 1994, then 2006 and again in 2008.
She gave birth to twins five months after divorcing her first husband. They were fathered by her third husband but adopted by her second. Davis worked at the clerk's office at the time of each divorce and has since remarried.
Yep, she's concerned about the sanctity of marriage.
Know now why she is second tier!
If you really want to take some of the best posts on this see landintx's posts elsewhere.
The state of KY is now without governing statute due to the declaration of the SCOTUS, and in fact no marriage licenses should be granted until they KY adopt a new statute.
Not only should this woman be not held in contempt of court, any District or Supreme Court judge or official attempting to enforce such an order should be arrested and impeached off the bench.
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof". The sunrise court will though, right Carly? There you have it people, the republican corporatist swindlers. Sooner or later they show their true colors. So according to this ass, the duly elected Rowan county clerk must have her rights trampled so perversion can be justified by the government or she can "go look for another job". I wander how long before Carly starts back peddling when her poll numbers hit the toilet.
Just do what satan wants,,,,,its easier. Through with her. The whole USA was destroyed by a movement that said you couldn't deny anyone work, race sex handicap,, everyone has right to work.
TOLERANCE has made the once victim the victimizer. The Christian a stranger in his own land.
PROGRESSIVE DESTRUCTION. DRAW A LINE.
She is 100% correct here. While I am a religious person and do not agree with same-sex marriage, when you allow a government office to engage in religious actions you trampling on the separation of Church and State and that is a very bad thing. Especially the religious should understand what happens when government endorses any specific religion -- just look at history.
Actually Magyar, the rule of law applies to everyone or noone. This woman is breaking the law as surely as LERNER at the IRS or HILLARY or OBAMA for that matter. You don’t get to pick and choose which you chose to obey. As much as it pains me Fiornia is absolutely right. If you work for the government you are bound by the laws and have a tighter standard. Sadly I agree with this woman also. I ,unlike some here, am not willing to throw away the thing that makes this Country exceptional, THE RULE OF LAW. ” Give unto Caesar ” remember who said that ? As far as voting for Fiornia... not in my lifetime. She is still right.
"different situation for her than someone in a hospital who’s asked to perform an abortion or someone at a florist who’s asked to serve a gay wedding." strongly disagree....we have the right to serve our God faithfully...for those imposing their beliefs on Christians, they should clearly just go to another window, so to speak. That's not good enough for them however, because they Hate God and mock Him with this abomination
To try to say that being in an elected position of county government somehow makes one's rights different than the private sector shows the true corporate fascist criminal colors of carly. She is wrong.
Religious freedom isn't any different for a gov't official than it is for any "private" person.
Carly doesn't want to deport illegals.
Carly thinks there is a such thing as global warming, and that it's humanity's fault, and that we must pay higher taxes because of it.
Carly thinks the government should give money to big corporations.
Carly thinks the Supreme Court can legislate law.
Just re-read the dissents from the four opposing justices on the horrible gay ruling, and you'll see the reason they were right, and the majority was wrong.
Just because there is a majority does not make the decision right.
Quite simply the gov't has outgrown it's limitations. This shouldn't be an issue because the gov't shouldn't be involved in marriage or the bedroom.
I won't vote for her because she looks like a transvestite. Anyone who would do whatever she has done to her face must be unstable.
wow--she is a better manipulator than the liar!!!!!
What is hocus-pocus about it? She spoke English. Did you have trouble with a particular word or was it the thought as a whole that confused you?
Clearly, the mind of a RINO! How about instead we reign in the out of control government, including the Supreme Court. Term limits should include them!
Yeah, because why would you want to vote for a person with integrity who is more interested in fairness to all citizens than just a confused theist ?
 September 1, 2015 at 7:00pm
Had CNN not amended their rules to accommodate Carly, their false narrative ‘war on women’ would have suffered a self inflicted wound!
They’re all so corrupt— Well…. the fish always stinks from the head down!
Wow! If my memory serves by, it has been nearly 50 years since a Women Employed by a Corporation is expecting Twin.
Not the biggest News Story, but none the less - 50 years - amazing.
It has not been 50 years - Then why is this a new story.
You’re right – this isn’t news but she’s actually pretty awesome. She’s only 40 years old, the CEO of Yahoo!, and a wife & mother. She’d be the epitome of feminism if feminists weren’t bat_shit_crazy.
Thank God she didn't go to Planned Infanticide. They would have had a two for one sale of body parts.
And why do we really need to hear about this on national media?
 August 31, 2015 at 9:26pm
I swear I would NEVER take Obama’s call under any circumstance! PERIOD.
@8 You’re damn right! If Trumpy were not out there calling them out— none of this would be happening. It’s going to take someone like Trump to right the ship…. Just wait for the Republican backed attacks on him…. They have no idea that by doing it, more and more will gladly vote for him!
 August 31, 2015 at 10:10am
The above comments are almost better than the story! LOL! I appreciate the humor– and I’m a chica!
 August 31, 2015 at 10:01am
Celtic— It doesn’t take an expert! It’s what everyday folks with an ounce of brains clearly understand! What’s critical is what you do about it.
 August 31, 2015 at 9:53am
Knew this years ago…. like 7. Started to prepare then. I feel sorry for those who refuse to see that which is right the hell in front of them and feel worse for those who have NO clue.
Pray for all.
 August 31, 2015 at 8:08am
The Iran deal will all but guarantee that something will be hurled at this country. The Traitor ‘n Chief and his Democratic lice will be the only ones responsible.
MAGYAR, "The Iran deal will all but guarantee that something will be hurled at this country."
 August 30, 2015 at 7:22pm
August 30, 2015 at 6:31pm
Come mierda, Jose!
 August 30, 2015 at 6:29pm
Gee— I though Alaskans were Americans too. The Plantation Master can change the name, but those who go along with it are aiding and abetting the fundamental transformation of American. And to those I say– shove it.
 August 30, 2015 at 3:30pm
ISIS would love to see it go up in flames! Lots of security, please.