losing- as tired as you are of the “negative nellies” telling you who not to vote for, how about the other side of the coin people not telling us who we HAVE to vote for, or “not voting for x is a vote for y? (which is asinine circular logical fallacy) Cruz was right originally. vote your conscience. I personally will be voting constitution party, mcmullen, or writing in Cruz, I haven’t decided yet. I know none of those is likely to be relevant, but I cannot in good conscience vote for Trump or Clinton. I believe they are both terrible for our country and I don’t believe Trump is significantly better than her, and could potentially be much worse as he keeps moving farther and farther left on every policy before even being challenged.
September 27, 2016 at 8:47am
@CSLewis – you realize Washington lost every battle until the battle of Trenton and was almost fired? Not sure what you think you learned….
 September 27, 2016 at 7:50am
we thought 4 years of obama would wake everyone up. No jobs, no growth, higher taxes, 40% less net worth than before he started, all the scandals, the corruption, the politics, and on and on, but that got us 2010 and 2014, what did the republicans do? They took our votes and built up establishment barricades to power so they could ignore us more.
Article 5 convention is the only chance we have at this point to restore the constitution. Neither Hillary nor Trump will do it, they will both take us even farther away, if we haven’t already gone so far that we can’t change course.If we aren’t gone for ever at this point, with or without the supreme court we are lost for at least a generation probably 2 or more
 September 27, 2016 at 7:41am
I think he deserves a day to vent. Between what Cruz said on Friday, his interview this morning where he talked about selling (renting) Trump his donor list, and Cruz’ facebook after the debate, and the amount of time Glenn and many of us spent stumping for Cruz, I can understand his disappointment and frustration, being let down yet again by someone he finally thought was “the real deal”
 September 27, 2016 at 7:37am
so people have chosen 2 of the worst possible people (and you understate both the criminality and seriousness of what Trump did as well as the volume of his acts, and overstate what Hillary did, while not defending her or her comments after, there is a right to a vigorous defense for everyone in this country, you know, that pesky constitution thing), but there is far more flaws with her than just that.
That said, however, How exactly is Glenn getting what he richly deserves for supporting someone who he believed shared his values and was someone to be counted on and dependable to maintain his character and principles and return us to the constitution?
Because voters selected 2 of the worst possible candidates in the history of America, he is “getting what he deserves” because he went out on limb to stump for someone he thought was one of the best?
You are seriously twisted.
[-1] September 27, 2016 at 2:33am
I hope you are right because Ted is not a stupid guy and he must know how agonizing this is for a large majority of people who stood for him and stood with him. I hope there is something more here than Preibus threatening any future in the republican party if you don’t get on the Trump Train and funding for 2018 and possibly 2020 drying up. If that is all it is to safe his “political life”, then he is not the principled conservative I thought I saw in the senate and during this whole run being willing to stand up to anyone if he believed what he was right.
September 27, 2016 at 2:28am
“If I had to choose between steak, lobster, or a dog turd, I have more than two choices. But it is still a binary choice.”
That, by definition, is not a binary choice. Unless you are in some way prevented from independent freedom of choice to choose the dog turd, then it is a viable choice and therefore NOT a binary choice, by definition.
This logic is as bad as those who keep saying “refusing to vote for Trump is a vote for Hillary” ridiculous circular logic, seeing as those refusing to vote for Trump are saying they will not vote for clinton, therefore, by that logic not voting for Clinton must be a vote for Trump, but Wait, I thought not voting for trump…uh…yea….bring up one logical fallacy after anotohre expect to herd us like cattle to support “your guy” who has done nothing to earn our vote and has said he doesn’t want our vote.
September 27, 2016 at 2:24am
nothing is binary. People are being told it is binary, so they assume it has to be Trump or Clinton. Lemmings led over the two party cliff Washington warned us about. It is neither a binary choice nor a binary outcome. No votes have been cast. what happens to your “binary choice” if everyone votes constitution party in November?
You clearly don’t understand the meaning of binary choice. Even if you believe “only one of 2 people have a realistic chance of winning” this is neither a binary choice nor a binary outcome because neither outcome is guaranteed as long as there are others in the race.
 September 27, 2016 at 2:13am
TrumpBart.com and TrumpReport.com had Trump winning by larve margins…gee, shocking…
 September 27, 2016 at 2:11am
This isn’t about who won/lost the debate, it is about her ignorant tax comment. It doesn’t matter who won, the american people lost simply because these are our choices.
What I saw, Trump needed to get personal, but never got personal in the right area. He Hit her on libya obtusely without talking about Benghazi specifically, let her get away with her lie on the SOFA agreement saying it was GWB fault not hers/Obama, and more importantly, the easy kill shot when talking about Cyber Security when she talked about how seriously she takes it and how strong she will be about it, he didn’t point out how non-seriously she took it with classified material on a personal server that was intercepted by at least 1 and probably multiple foreign entities which Wiki is proving right now by releasing many of them.
 September 27, 2016 at 2:08am
big difference between NAFTA and TPP you can’t lump them all together. NAFTA was quite good, TPP quite bad. Neither Cruz was “instrumental” in getting those trade agreements passed. Heidie had one paragraph in a report about global economics that she contributed as a global economics experts which was her job to analyze while at Goldman Sachs. It only spoke about how the international political environment can affect trade and had nothing to do with the conclusion of the report.
Don’t bother to let actual facts back up a good story though
[-1] September 27, 2016 at 2:04am
Why would they relearn the value of work? He is offering all sorts of giveaways as well with his own pandering
 September 27, 2016 at 2:04am
almost 100% correct. The only correction I would make is the economy didn’t still grow under Clinton, the tax increases caused the Reagan expansion to run out of gas and GWB inheartied the beginning of a recession thanks to Clinton’s terrible policies.
 September 27, 2016 at 1:57am
I wonder how many of these shootings are occurring with legally purchased guns? She has got to know how badly she is lying to fit the agenda. This crap has got to stop!
 September 27, 2016 at 1:53am
Is Mike Lee the only good one left? Mybe this is why Ben Sasse never came out in positive support for Cruz. The last few days are staggering. He didn’t destroy his political career with his great convention speech. He is sending it up in flames right now and losing everyone who thought we finally had a principled honest broker.
Wrong. Clearly this primary has proven that no one cares about principled conservatism, honesty, or integrity. At least not enough to win. As I said in another post, When Trump loses, Ted is making it crystal clear that at least he tried. His supporters will only be able to blame Trump and will harbor no ill will when Ted runs again in 2020. Political strategy is what it is, whether we like it or not.
Honestly, what good would it do for Ted to stay principled, Trump loses, and then everyone blames him (wrongfull however it may be)?
 September 27, 2016 at 1:49am
Republicans didn’t. It was mostly democrats in open primaries that pushed him ahead. Unless you count the republican GOPe which refuses to close primaries. They will threaten Cruz to not allow him to run in the party for future positions if he doesn’t support Trump, but they won’t close their own primaries to voters that supposedly have the opposite philosophy they do and have no interest in seeing a conservative elected (which is exactly why the GOPe are basically Liberals where the dems are now progressive/marxists). Conservatives no longer belong in the republican party. We have been told that for years, and have seen it off and on, but this cycle has made it abundantly clear.
The Republican Party is no longer the party of Reagan and has nothing to do with and doesn’t believe in conservatism and the constitution.
 September 27, 2016 at 1:44am
It was pretty clear when they talked about cyber security and she talked about how strong she would be on it and he didn’t even bring up “if you are so strong why did you send so many classified emails on your personal unsecured server that were intercepted by at least 1 foreign entity and released by wiki?” Never really challenged any of her positions seriously, is strongest argument was “ok, you are experienced but it is bad experience” and “you created isis due to power vaccuum” without going into detail and letting her squirm out of the latter with a lie that it was GWB fault, uh, yea….Obama refused multiple status of forces agreements because he had no interest in staying. I could have out debated her pathetic answers and Trump was on the defensive all night for no reason.
 September 26, 2016 at 9:55pm
Who pays the most tax you idiot witch. Of course the top tax payers are going to end up with the biggest breaks, doesn’t mean everyone doesn’t gain including the lower and middle income brackets. It also opens up jobs whereas your plan just wants to stifle everything, including now raising your death tax to 75%
Killary’s real competition, socialist screwball Green Party candidate Jill Stein, was booted off the Hofstra Campus earlier today as she attempted to crash the debate..
The media will claim Killary won the debate and the PEOPLE will know otherwise.
Marnin - I don't believe in a lot of what Hillary believes in, but she won the debate. Trump lacked substance, interrupted Hillary too much, and got too personal. Take ideology out it and she won.
America taxes US businesses at some of the highest tax rates in the world.
Our politicians, both Democratic AND Republican helped pass numerous, disastrous job destroying "free trade agreements", e.g. NAFTA, CAFTA, the Jordanian-US free trade agreement, the US-Vietnam free trade agreement to name a few, and now they want to pass the TPP (by the way, Ted Cruz wife Heidi, along with Robert Zoellick, was instrumental in getting these trade agreements passed).
If Hillary wins, her Presidency will usher in the North American Union. If Trump wins, the Left will go insane.
sadly, most Americans today just want to be greedy takers.
so, they know what hillary will do, and they want to just lie back and let hillary’s gravy train pay for them to be lazy.
hopefully, with a Trump presidency, Americans can re-learn the value of work, and to actually pay for your own things once again (and not just rely upon the govt to just give them everything)
but, it will be close, thanks to the democrat party, there are now so many greedy takers, and less and less productive Americans left any more.
I found that interesting. Trickle down economics does work and Bill Clinton was the biggest beneficiary of that in the 1990's. When a president initiates a plan, the economy does not operate in election cycles.
When you cut taxes, working people have more money to spend and they buy stuff. When you cut corporate taxes the don't go offshore and have money left over to add production and hire people to meet their increased demand.
I had a wonderful occasion to spend 4 hours with Jack Kemp, one on one. The democrats were scared to death trickle down economics would work and did everything they could to make sure it didn't. The democratic congress stuffed Reagan with huge spending bills so the deficit would increase so they could blame it on Reagan.
When Bill Clinton got elected they passed the biggest tax increase in the history of the world and the economy still grew - because of what Reagan had done and Bush I didn't screw up too badly.
God forbid they create real jobs and people get off the government dole and go to work and improve their lives.
Marnin if yiu want to read a good book by Dick Morris it is Amageddon it is all about the clinton's when he was in the white house. Excellent read unbelievable the ties they have.
Fact: Bill Clinton and the rest of the Demoncrats lived off the Reagan-Bush economic era for years and then destroyed it. Tax after tax, and regulation on top of regulation. Fact: Trickle down worked, except progressives kept spending all the money AND more. The squandered all of it.
Interesting note on the debate, never in my life have have I seen a candidate look more smarmy, be more fake, act more condescending, and come across as arrogantly self important as Hitlery in this debate....though Lurch (Kerry) came pretty close. That witch was, and is, evil. She is kleptocrat, corruptocrat, demoncrat, and sociopath all wrapped up in one single deranged package.
Those Trickle Down Economics started to kick in the last 2 years of Regan"s term. Bill Clinton rode the coat tails of what had kicked in with a turbo and took credit for a revived economy. When Carter got booted out people couldn't buy a car or a new home. Interest on a auto loan was 21% and 17% if you bought a home. With half of Detroit layed off the U A W union still supported Carter. Home builders didn't need employees as no one would buy even existing homes..
Why didn't Trump point out the real reason for the housing crash? WHY, WHY WHY? He let Hillary walk all over him by saying it was trickle down economics that caused it. She then hammered it home by pointing out how Trump said he hopes it would fail so he could profit.
YUGE opportunity missed by Trump.
"Trumped-up Trickle Down" I can't stand rehearsed zingers. Absolutely garbage. I bet she stayed up all night thinking of that one, too.
September 26, 2016 at 9:16pm
but i thouht the whole trump point was that he was an outsider and stood up to the party?
 September 26, 2016 at 9:09pm
Bren define “the people”? What do you not understand about open early primaries especially in the south had many hillary voters cross over to vote for trump when they thought she was a coronation to the nomination. Millions of democrats voted in republican primaries choosing our candidate. He then polished it off in the very liberal NE states. The “republican people” were not the ones that got Trump the nomination, especially not the conservatives. Conservative votes were completely offset by open primaries (Cruz won almost all closed primaries before leaving race), and a split field where people like Rubio and Kasich wouldn’t get out of the race even when there was no path to victory for them splitting the support long afte.r it should have been
When one wins the nomination with 40% of the vote, that is hardly “the people decided”, that is a plurality where he worked the system to his advantage and managed to get a first ballot nomination with lowest % ever of party support.