Hey Lead, I don’t believe you were there & your testimony contradicts what was presented in court. My sons would not be out at night walking around the neighborhood & they would never hassle neighborhood watch. If they were out at night & they were approached by neighborhood watch, they would tell them where they lived, but then neighborhood watch knows my sons & already knows all this. My sons don’t smoke marijuana & they don’t burglarize houses & they don’t beat up others & they don’t act like thugs. They are clean cut American boys & I hope they defend themselves in whatever way is best if they are ever confronted by any criminal.
July 11, 2013 at 6:53pm
Not a liar, although I can believe that. Not sophisticated means she doesn’t speak clear concise English & has a low IQ, uneducated & base. Why would any attorney put someone like her on the stand? Does he expect the jury to feel sorry for her perjury & convict on that basis? She lost a boyfriend she doesn’t really feel anything for & we are supposed to grieve for her? Or was he her supplier? There is something here that doesn’t fit & she is afraid they will find out something about her relationship with Martin that would jeopardize their case. If she was dealing for him or fencing for him, it would explain why she didn’t want other people to think they were close or associated. Where did Martin get his marijuana? Why was he in contact with her on a regular basis if they were not friends enough for her to attend his funeral? I don’t believe her testimony or his mom’s or his dad’s & I wonder why the prosecution has gone to this extent to jeopardize their standing for this case. Would you re-elect this prosecutor or judge for your hometown knowing they have no respect for their own laws? You don’t get to re-write legislation from the bench or the witness stand. Telephone conversations & family voice identification are not good enough to be evidence of a crime. An unsophisticated associate who wasn’t there is not a witness. She is a detriment & perjury is still a crime in this country, but I guess they will allow it from the WH.
July 11, 2013 at 6:36pm
1. Martin was not a resident of the neighborhood & it is not unlawful for neighborhood watch personnel to ask strangers where they live or what their business is in their neighborhoods. It is not unlawful to ask a person what they are up to. Anyone can refuse to respond or can respond with profanity or what have you, but 2. It is unlawful for anyone to assault anybody else. You can’t jump someone no matter what they are saying & start pounding on them. 3. The only person who broke the law & started the altercation was Martin. Zimmerman did not break any laws & chose to exercise his right to defend himself when he felt his life was threatened. As would we all if the truth be told here. If you want to sacrifice yourself up to some thug pounding on you until he cracks your skull or caves your head in, that is your right & your choice, but you should have the right to defend yourself if you are able & have the means.
You may just as well be talking like Charlie Brown's teacher to some people on here.
No one is discussing how Martins mther had no interest in her son until The Rev. al Sharpton showed up with his idea to get rich. He and the Mother @copyrighted the Trevon Martin name with Rev. al getting 30% off the top. When Martin was killed his dad stated that the person calling for help wasn't his son. But almost a year later when $$$ money is involved he changed his story. I will be avoiding Flordia on all future vacations if Zimmerman is found guilty by this kangaroo court. Every 2 years I have all my sons & Wives + grand kids to Key West at Christmas but maybe not this year.
I think she is a Dude.
I was thinking of making a move to Florida, but not now.
Something I really haven't seen brought up is that state had no witnesses that had any evidence of being a racist.
Think about that. They likely interviewed every person they could that knew him hoping to find one that would testify him saying the n word or something.
Yet they had none. I hope the defense brings that up in closing arguments.
Not to mention the fact that the situation that Zimmerman was in while Martin was beating him up is considered by anyone with half a brain to be a very dangerous situation to your life and health.
One good/lucky shot from the guy on top and it's lights out for the guy on the bottom, who is now totally at the mercy of the person who knocked them out.
Sure the guy on top might knock you out then get up and walk away. Or he might start kicking you in the head, or pull a knife and stab you.
You are under zero legal obligation in that situation to assume the aggressor will break off the attack after knocking you out, and you would be a complete fool to make such an assumption.
His mom did not seem to care where her baby son was when he got shot.....He could have been in another country........again a child is not a paycheck but an investment....these people find it hard to totally understand that.......But they listen to the liberal crap bag media so I understand why they believe the way they believe.
Skittles are used to make Sizzurp.....Its mixed with drugs and given to girls Up in Da Club before they are Date Raped.......Sizzurp is rapped about by lots and lots of rappers......Skittles= Sizzurp.
Zimmerman was appointed by his neighborhood and they wanted him to protect them, because the police seem to be too busy for protection of that neighborhood....He was only doing what he was appointed to do........also there are laws that give the woman the right to protect herself if someone happens to try and rape her or beat her senselessly......a woman has the right to carry a gun in this country.....For now......But the Democrats would very much like to take that right away..........Democrats love to take taxes and rights away from "we the people".
Dont forget sizzurp is a drug made from skittles.......Girls like skittles......at least young ones do.
They are not asking you to examine the lawfulness of either parties behavior. The prosecution is asking you to make an emotional decision throwing out the hard facts of the case. It's weird because the prosecution is trying to instill doubt in the mind of the jury, that's typically the defenses job. He has to be guilty BEYOND a reasonable doubt. That demonstrates that this prosecution team is on its heals. They have no case. This case is only happening because of great pressure from the black community and the sensationalizing of the case from the media. Remember the police didn't even arrest Zimmerman until after the ousting of the Police Cheif and the public out cry.
Jurors should try the defendant based upon the HARD evidence and the legal statutes, not based on emotion or sympathy. We have a jury comprised entirely of women, we shall see how that goes.
You are absolutely correct. BHO has picked up the Helter Skelter mantle from Charles Manson and is trying to start a race war. He has set race relations back 100 years in the US. Except now blacks can legally discriminate, attack, and demean whites, instead of vice versa.
I'm worried that the 6 women jurors will vote guilty because of fear their families will be targeted.
It looks and sounds that Bernie started a civil war
White America you can HANG UP
So, Trayvon didn't live in the neighborhood...but his Father did. The way you people are commenting, I ask one question...What rights did Trayvon have?
It's sounds and looks like the Judge is in the back pocket of the "Obama administration". Speculation is raging that the judge in the George Zimmerman case could have been put under PRESSURE by the Obama ADMINISTRATION after she (Judge) staged a bizarre outburst. The only thing she could and make was to interrogated Zimmerman while REPEATEDLY silencing his LAWYERS. GOING forward this is going to happen with all whites..............Is this the way Florida Judges are going to start to react towards WHITE America.....? Are the Judges in FLORIDA under the "OBAMA Administration" on every thing that happens in Florida going forward. Is Florida the next Calif.
Zimmerman was a vigilante,
A one man member of a watch group - he just made up.
He had the same rights as anyone else...until he committed assault, then he had a right to the consequences of someone else's rights.
So, Trayvon didn’t live in the neighborhood…but his Father did. The way you people are commenting, I ask one question…What rights did Trayvon have?
Fair question that deserves a fair answer: Trayvon had the right to run home where he knew he'd be safe, and where he could have called the cops and made a report. But he didn't. He chose a confrontational stance on someone he thought was following him and was possibly a "crazy-ass c-racker" (gay, if you believe the definition given by Miss Jeantel).
No worries though, Zimmerman will probably lose his case despite the evidence supporting his actions.
Charles116 - Tag your Zimmerman......Now What.....think about it...........or do have the right to still alive..
It's ok that she is not that smart. Not everyone can be. Sometimes a ghetto-potamus is just a ghetto-potamus. Nothing to be done about it.
Yea, but, but, but Zimmerman was a wann-a be cop.
If Trayvon wanted to be a rapper, would it be a crime?
If Trayvon wanted to be a pro basketball player, would it be a crime?
If Tryavon wanted to be a Baptist Preacher, would it be a crime?
If Trayvon wanted to be a police officer, would it be a crime?
It is not a crime that Zimmerman wanted to be a police officer. Desire to be a certain profession is not a crime
It does not matter if there were 50 people in the neighborhood watch, or if there was but one. You do not even have to be a member of a neighborhood watch to report suspicious activity in your neighborhood.
Did Trayvon have a legal right to be in that neighborhood that night?
Did Trayvon have a legal right to walk down the sidewalk?
Did he have a right to skip down the sidewalk?
Did he have a right to walk backwards and hum amazing grace while walking down the sidewalk?
Guess what? George Zimmerman had just as much of a legal right to be on that sidewalk.
The only crime that night was committed by the person that initiated the attack.
Following someone, watching someone, calling the police on someone, talking to someone, asking a question to someone, looking at someone..... is not a crime, and does not give a right for a person to attack the person following or looking.
In American, we are innocent until proven guilty. that means Zimmerman is innocent until proven guilty of a crime, and reporting strange behavior is
Actually, this is Exactly the point........I can find nothing illegal in any of Zimmerman's actions. It is implausible that Zimmerman started a physical altercation........and nobody should have to take a beating. Martin was DULY shot.
Ghettopotamus = classic lmao
"Not a Very Sophisticated Person"
How about just one step above a talking animal? She would be a great circus attraction as "the talking animal" exhibit. I didn't even know people like here still existed. I thought other species like Neanderthals became extinct 25,000 years ago.
Cops have shot people for a heck of a lot less than what martin did to zimmerman! If we apply the same standards for zimmerman that the cops use to exculpate themselves out of a murder rap.. not only was zimmerman NOT GUILTY by cop standards, he's NOT GUILTY BY ANY STANDARDS!
The prosecution loves to talk about how zimmerman took mma classes, well if you talk to any mma fighter and ask them what happens to a BLACK BELT when you punch him in the face, they'll tell you he turns into a brown belt, and the more you hit him the lower his belt goes til he is useless.
These people want you to believe that they would not have reacted in the manner zimmerman did.. BS! they would have crapped themselves and cried like the left leaning dishes they are!
George happened to exercise his god given right to self defense,.. heck it only takes "in some instances" one punch to kill someone, how many was george supposed to take until they could no longer interject racism into the altercation!?!?!?
George is being railroaded by the prosecution, the judge and his own bloody attorney's who refuse to challenge the courts subject matter jurisdiction!
In any sane mind, george did what he needed to do to survive and should be found not guilty.. HOWEVER we don't know what kind of women they have on the jury!! are they ALL BLACK?? you know, a stacked deck??
I just want to point out if you have ever had your head smashed backwards into the ground, there is a very strange sensation in the head that can feel like you are going to pass out. I can understand why Zimmerman became even more afraid, being passed out with that kid pummeling you, you may not think you will wake up again if you pass out.
Not only did he exercise his right to protect himself, but he also waited till he was substantially bloodied to do so. If this was racially fuelled in any way, why would he let Martin beat on him for so long and not just draw on him as he approached him threateningly?
Yet idiots claiming it's racial, gathering in droves to protest evil white man with forked tongue
Trollvon assaulted Zimmerman to impress Jabba the Huttress.
Thank God he di'n't knock her up.
sophisticated.... how about dumb as a box of rocks.
Not Guilty for Zimmerman and he walks.
Hands down..my favorite Christian band..mission statement..to go out and raise up apostles among the youth. My favorite workout concert..
Sorry, but the 6 white and 1 hispanic alternate all woman make up of the jury has been publicly available informationsince before the start of the trial.
While the mainstream media made sure to report with exclamations and gasps that marijuana was found in Trayvon Martin‘s system on the night that he was killed, many outlets failed to also report that the level was well below what medical studies show cause “performance impairment.” The same can not be said for George Zimmerman. According to the paramedic report, the vigilante neighborhood watch captain was on the prescription drug Temazepam.
Temazepam, also known as Restoril, is known to cause insomnia and anxiety, reports MSNBC. But there are more important side effects that were not mentioned.
According to the U.S. National Library of Medicine, the drug is also known to cause “aggressiveness” and “hallucinations,” among other problematic symptoms.
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From the U.S. Library of Medicine:
“You should know that some people who took medications for sleep got out of bed and drove their cars, prepared and ate food, had sex, made phone calls, or were involved in other activities while partially asleep. After they woke up, these people were usually unable to remember what they had done. Call your doctor right away if you find out that you have been driving or doing anything else while you were sleeping.
Sophistication.......That girl is one brain cell short of a goldfish!! Are you kidding?
How is it that this spoiled brat TM is overlooked that he was suspended from school x 3 for fighting, smoking pot, filming fights with other students, but is referred to as a child by the prosecuetors, A child doesnt wander the streets after dark in the rain, if he was a child where were his parents?, why were they not supervising their "child" ?
One minute TM is just a useless punk, calling strangers "CACs" and telling GZ that he is going to die tonight, but then, TM is just child, child my @$$.
Oh yeah! about neckroll," shes not a sophistcated person" no duh, and here is another prediction about neckroll: her future dont look too bright, i mean she is not gonna be a brain surgeon, or rocket scientist either. you thiiiiink!
This Rachel witness was beyond "unsophisticated". She's just plain ignorant. Ignorance can be fixed if you want to apply yourself. Trayvon Martin may not have lived in that neighborhood, but he had a right to be there. Did Geo Z ever ask Trayvon Martin to ID himself, or did Geo Martin ID himself? NO he did not. The idea of neighborhood watchmen is a good one. They should not be armed. They are not police.
July 11, 2013 at 6:25pm
Not so dense she couldn’t perjure herself for the prosecution & try to sound convincing doing it. A mind is a terrible thing to waste & she proved it. I think she should go to Africa & try her luck there.
July 11, 2013 at 6:22pm
Actually, I think it is a tragedy. He was so young. But that doesn’t excuse his choices or actions.
July 11, 2013 at 6:17pm
A coward would have shot the kid in the back from the car. You don’t know the meaning of the word. So Martin is so brave for attacking a shorter man. So tough for fighting anything that moves if it rubs him the wrong way. You might want to count how long Zimmerman waited before he shot Martin in the front, in the chest while the kid was on top of him pounding his head into the ground. Zimmerman was foolish in my opinion but trying to be conscientious about his neighborhood watch & I think it would be very telling if they investigated the burglaries in that neighborhood because I would bet good money that Martin was involved. But nobody wants to discuss the true nature of the kid, they just want to crucify who’s left. Hypocrites all. If the situation was reversed & it was a black neighborhood watch guy who shot a Mexican thug, we wouldn’t be having this discussion. Racist hypocrites.
July 11, 2013 at 5:55pm
Not a very sophisticated person… is an understatement. How about not credible?
So it’s okay for a black man to attack anyone else & if you make the mistake of defending yourself in a state that allows you to stand your ground you are going to prison anyway. And we’re going to convict because that will keep the black criminals from rioting. I think we should not convict according to the law & wait & see if the black communities riot & then deal with the rioters in an appropriate manner according to the law. Seems to me Zimmerman’s rights have been violated here & this is nothing but a circus for the morons who can’t read or understand the basic laws in this country which is why we need to send them back to their African mud huts where life will be so much simpler & easier to understand for them. Freedom does not mean you can threaten anybody at any time. Free speech does not mean you can threaten or incite. Freedom of religion does not mean you can force or impose your beliefs on someone else. Even the prosecution & judge in this case have failed to do their jobs which is to uphold the law as officers of the court. You don’t make legislation or prosecute to keep racists from rioting, that’s persecution of the innocent. Racists will riot whenever the mood strikes them & it is not a rational choice. I guess it really is the beginning of the end.
July 5, 2013 at 6:29pm
So how much does it cost to change an official opinion these days? Or does he have something to hide that can be extorted for false testimony? Would you now trust this guy to handle your case? Because I wouldn’t. I wish Martin had not jumped Zimmerman & then maybe he would still be alive today, maybe not. Because if he was burglarizing homes, he might have been shot & killed in the process of a crime. Maybe he would have been shot & killed while in the process of another crime. Just maybe he would have turned his life around. But he chose to jump a guy & pound on him enough to make the guy afraid for his life & then he got shot. What a useless tragedy. Way to go Mom & Dad. Maybe you should have been there for your son & maybe you should have been at home with him making sure he was safe instead of pursuing other things that were more important to you. What possibly could have been more important than your teenage son? Nothing. You never give up on your kids. If you need to stay home to make sure they stay out of trouble then do so. If they need a trip to jail to see some consequences then so be it. Just do what it takes. Because if you don’t then maybe they end up dead when they do the wrong things. Like attack a guy with a gun. Senseless.
July 5, 2013 at 2:26pm
And that is how perjury slips by the jury… Tell a lie & tell a little truth & it will sound plausible. What I am having trouble with is that none of these witnesses for Martin were there in person & they are admitting hearsay as evidence. When people scream under duress they sound similar, that’s how they do sound-overs in the movie business – One person opens their mouth on film & somebody else does the more impressive scream. I use to jump every time I heard a child scream because they all sound the same & the girls sound the same sometimes as the boys & I had to make sure it wasn’t my child who was making noise. I have no doubt Martin’s mom wishes the incident never happened & that’s about the only true thing she’s said. She’s looking for compensation here because she thinks she is entitled & that’s the real problem with our welfare system. This woman doesn’t deserve anything for raising a criminal & her son doesn’t deserve anything for choosing crime. The father doesn’t deserve anything for raising a criminal & the brother doesn’t deserve anything for covering the crime. They are all guilty now of criminal activity, including the girlfriend which doesn’t say much for their creed. It’s all really rather pathetic when you reduce it down to the basics. If they cared so much for Martin, why didn’t they do right by him? You don’t let your child become a criminal without a fight to show him & teach him there is a better way. That is a parents job. For shame.
Oh no, it takes a village of idiots to raise a criminal, don't you know that?
June 29, 2013 at 2:12pm
Why not both? I can imagine a being altering the genetics of life on this planet so it will evolve into something else. The fossil records already prove evolution exists on this planet, but it doesn’t explain the missing gaps. Something accelerated the process, especially with modern man & modern livestock. We’re already messing with genetics ourselves, is it so hard to imagine that someone made some changes to transform man into their progeny? I don’t understand why the fight to have it one way or another when both theories are plausible. Will we ever know all the facts concerned? Hard to say. Maybe the evidence is here on the planet & we’re missing it or it still needs to be found. Evolution all by itself takes millions of years to make changes, but maybe it’s a prompted process as well. Seems to me there are so many factors to consider – Radiation from the Sun which is a constantly changing burning ball of layered gases, effects from other celestial bodies, etc. I have absolutely no doubt however that we are moving in a definite direction towards something, which would tend to suggest there is a planned purpose even if it is just survival or continuation of a parent species. We are more than just animals & it would be very nice for a change if we started acting like we were more.
June 28, 2013 at 2:06pm
I’m white & I’ll talk about race relations. I don’t understand these black people. If they are so unhappy here, why don’t they leave? I have a great deal of respect for blacks who speak clear English & have jobs because they seem to get the American dream, but I don’t get these clowns who post racist & hateful epithets on social media sites. They seem like criminals to me. Don’t they still prosecute criminals in this country? They obviously hate the color of my skin but I don’t know why since I didn’t put it there in the first place & I never stopped to think about whether I hate theirs or not. Black is just another color to me. I judge people on the basis of their character. I guess I don’t like stupid people. They really bum me out.
June 28, 2013 at 1:59pm
Would they do it for Obama? It would be a boon for us all. Let his people go. Back to the beginning. Back where they belong.
June 28, 2013 at 1:55pm
Are you talking an all racist neighborhood? I’m confused.
June 28, 2013 at 1:52pm
I’m not sure about that. The bad seem to shout louder than the good. But then the good don’t have to shout about anything. Makes you wonder.
June 28, 2013 at 1:50pm
Maybe we should find something else for these people to focus on. How about some iron bars in their face. Something up close & personal. How much could it possibly cost to pack these people on a one-way boat to Africa. We could approach the cruise lines about a promotional trip.
Would they do it for Obama? It would be a boon for us all. Let his people go. Back to the beginning. Back where they belong.
June 28, 2013 at 1:47pm
Now this situation would actually be a good & justified use of citizen surveillance. Trace them back & prosecute them for violation of civil rights & the pursuit of happiness. Free the Z.
June 28, 2013 at 1:44pm
I’m waiting for the statement from the WH that says these are all his children & his people. What a crock of a melting pot.
June 28, 2013 at 1:34pm
Are they really? I only glanced at them & assumed wrongly. I think they should be traced back & their government subsidies should be revoked. I’m sure there must be a law they can enforce since they are issuing those statements in a public forum & they are in print for God’s sake in front of the world & everyone else. Isn’t it a form of threatening libel or a life threat or a personal threat? I don’t believe anyone in this country can issue a public statement in print that threatens someone’s life or well-being without being in violation of that person’s civil rights. If they pursue, the jails will be full.
June 28, 2013 at 1:23pm
Yeah, but if Z. is found not guilty, don’t you think he will be the one leaving? I don’t believe you can recover a life after an experience like this. Hope he has connections somewhere. I feel for the man. When it becomes a crime to defend yourself against a criminal, the criminals must be in charge.
June 28, 2013 at 1:11pm
I keep thinking the almost 14% threatening any of the majority doesn’t seem like a bright idea. I mean, they are already randomly shooting people now because they are bored & lazy & it would also appear they are illiterate as well, so are we kidding ourselves that these ebony-skinned folks can function on a minimum level in our society? Are we being remiss by not sending the rest back to Africa at this late date so they can go back to their much more familiar mud hut existence? If they start intentionally targeting certain individuals of known Hispanic & Jewish origins, won’t those populations take offense & start targeting the morons? I really don’t think they get it. They are out-numbered, out-gunned & out-matched & they are making threats??? My apologies to the dark-skinned folks who call themselves Americans. I was speaking of those who clearly don’t care about this country or the freedoms they currently enjoy here. I draw a distinction for myself between Americans of African descent & the others of African descent who can’t figure out what they are. Thugs? Thieves? Criminals? Undesirables? Wow, can’t find a good descriptive term that covers these people. I wonder if it wouldn’t be better for all Americans to start actively defending themselves from this element in our midst. It would be great & utopia if it wasn’t here, but the reality can’t be ignored. Don’t be one of the casualties.