What is behind your rejection of an old Earth, Evolution, etc?
You have to admit that there is OVERWHELMING evidence for such things. Do you think that the evidence exists, but that scientists have just come to the wrong conclusion and that we will eventually find out how and why we are wrong?
Or are you a person that says, “it’s a hoax. Scientists don’t want to accept that God exists and are trying to use science to trick people out of their faith?”
Sadly, I have seen quite a few people in the second camp who flat out reject science because they believe scientists want to take their faith.
The preponderance of the evidence suggests an old Earth, at least older than what young earth creationists believe. If you’re going to say that all of those people are wrong(even world renowned scientists who are deeply religious but accept evolution) then there’s really no point in continuing on.
I have posted in the thread below to DadRocked what I think helps provide evidence that substantiates evolution.
Btw, when looking through, did you actually try and use Star Trek to provide evidence for a miracle? I would argue that using make believe to try to justify your worldview(which I think is make believe) is a bad argument.
Anyways, I’m glad you accepted my challenge and were able to admit you are wrong. As I promised you won’t hear from me again.
Have a good life everyone! Be well!
January 16, 2014 at 9:24pm
“Honestly Mod, if YOU don’t know on your own what equals sound evidence, why are you even in this conversation?”
I’m obviously trying to gauge what his understanding is of evolution. Is he looking for Genetics, evidence rooted in Paleontology? Biogeography? I can offer strong evidence for that. If he’s looking for video evidence of a dog turning into a cat, I can’t provide that…that’s also not what evolution is.
” I would need is an explanation of how the Bible could be so right on so much”
Just because you claim that the Bible could be right on so much, doesn’t make it so. I could provide countless evidence that the Bible got how humans came into existence, how the universe was formed, how it contradicts itself on numerous stories and also how despite claims that would be EASY to verify (such as the Jews being enslaved in Egypt) yet not a single shred of evidence is found for that.
“I could be wrong.”
Here’s the difference between your wrong and my wrong. You claim that your information is backed by a supernatural force that is NEVER wrong. Therefore if I make a physical claim about the world an am wrong, I was wrong about my statement and it would disprove my stance.
Your stance is that the Bible is completely true. If you make a claim about the world and are proven wrong, your conclusion will be, “The Bible isn’t wrong, just my understanding of the Bible is wrong.”
January 16, 2014 at 9:13pm
Don’t worry, I’m use to their tactic of posting 6 or 7 paragraphs of supposed “information” and when I debunk 90% of it, I get the old “YOU DIDN’T EVEN BOTHER TO MENTION.” It’s all good.
For some reason my computer wasn’t showing my posts last night so I couldn’t respond to your posts(although they felt like a sermon). My response to you will have to be summary as I don’t think 8 posts is necessary to make my point. You also admitted you could be wrong, which is something most creationists aren’t willing to do, so I will respond to you and then leave as I said I would.
“Maybe you need to seriously question yourself and really look into -biblical- Christianity and realize why it’s true?” I have looked into Christianity and seen why it is not true. If you’re going to respond with, “you don’t REALLY understand” you are going to make an argument that I’ve heard before. I’ve had multiple Christians tell me, “You have to accept that the Bible is true in order to realize that it’s true.” I’m sorry but I’m not interested in that.
“Also, we don’t know if it was Earth-stopping. If it was, nothing about this necessarily suspends the rules.”
Uh the Bible clearly states that the “Sun stopped in the sky.” Well since we know that the Sun isn’t moving, the only way for it to not appear to move is for the Earth to stop rotating.
You are special pleading when it comes to the argument of the tale in Joshua.
January 16, 2014 at 10:23am
Sure enough I was right.
I come on in the morning before work and sure enough, all of my posts that weren’t showing last night are suddenly here.
I have to leave for work soon so I will come back tonight and respond, but since you answered my challenge honestly, it will be last correspondence on the blaze. I’m a man of my word.
January 16, 2014 at 2:11am
I’ve tried responding to your posts off and on for the last hour or so but nothing seems to be showing up. I’ve tried to find out what is going on to no avail. This will be my last attempt for the night and I’ll try to come back tomorrow after work to see if it will actually allow me to post.
January 16, 2014 at 2:05am
I don’t know how to respond to you when for the last hour I’ve been trying to and for some reason my posts aren’t showing up.
Can anybody see this? I don’t know what’s going on and have tried numerous things in order to rectify the situation yet nothing seems to work.
January 16, 2014 at 2:03am
I seriously can’t understand why not a single one of my posts is no longer visible no matter what I do.
January 16, 2014 at 2:02am
Still nothing Blaze?
Is this post finally going to go through?
January 16, 2014 at 1:52am
I’m going to assume that sometime tomorrow all of my posts are going to show up at the same time.
I really would like to respond to you, but none of my posts over the last hour have appeared on the site. I will try and come back tomorrow after I get home from work and address some of your points.
Until then, i’m at a loss for what to do here as nothing I say is posting.
January 16, 2014 at 1:50am
Hello? Anybody there?
Can anybody see this?
January 16, 2014 at 1:47am
I don’t know how we’re supposed to have a discussion when I can’t respond to your posts.
What the hell is going on Blaze?
January 16, 2014 at 1:45am
Can you see any of my posts at all?
Any? i’ve been trying to respond to you for awhile now but I don’t see any of my posts.
January 16, 2014 at 1:43am
I really wish the Blaze would allow me to post back to you but I’m unable to see any of my posts and I’m assuming since you haven’t responded to me asking, “can you see my posts?” that you can’t see them either.
January 16, 2014 at 1:40am
Let’s see. Will The Blaze allow me to post now?
January 16, 2014 at 1:30am
Can you see anything I’m saying? Can you see any of my posts?
January 16, 2014 at 1:27am
Nothing I say is showing here. I’ve tried to post off and on for the last hour with no luck.