Can Trump name Hillary as his VP? Can Hillary name Trump as hers at the same time?
At least then we would be getting what we deserve for letting Big Politic steal our media away and then abuse our liberty.
May 19, 2016 at 12:10am
As I suspected OldTimer… not one specific reason would be given. My question is “why not?”
The point about Article V is not about the proposing of amendments per se, but about the bullcrapbuster’s apparent reason for backing Trump (“He will likely tell both sides to F off now and then”).
 May 18, 2016 at 11:00pm
Only a soothsayer can guess what Trump will do. Why in the world would I vote for him? Please give specifics because I cannot for the life of me think of one.
If all you want to do is to throw the bums out of Congress and apparently more than 90% of us do according to the polls, support the Convention of States that can ratify an Amendment to the Constitution to set term limits. It is not that hard to do. We don’t have to resort to electing a narcissist worst than Obama to President.
[-1] May 18, 2016 at 10:55pm
I am glad that it looks like those who support Trump will not have me to blame when he fowls up the entire country.
I suspect your a cruz support the pos couldn’t even survive the primaries against an amateur and he will most likely lose his position next election. I love his speech on the constitution however he does not show up to work how can he get anything done
 May 12, 2016 at 9:06am
If Cruz can win Texas as a write-in candidate, it could very well force the vote to go to the House according to Amendment 12. Look at the map below to see how winning only Texas and Utah by a third party can keep Trump and Clinton out of the White House.
Read amendment 12. If a third party candidate can keep both other candidates from reaching 270, the election is decided in the House. The House may go for Cruz over Trump.
So there’s your specifics.
 May 12, 2016 at 8:56am
If Cruz can win Texas as a write-in candidate, it could very well force the vote to go to the House according to Amendment 12. Look at the map below to see how winning only Texas and Utah by a third party keeps Trump and Clinton out of the White House.
I think Cruz might be able to win in Texas as a write-in candidate. If he did, it would probably cause the election to be decided by the House according to Amendment 12. This map shows how easy it would be if he only won Texas and Utah.
If a third party can take the states Cruz took from Trump (they were almost all red states) and Trump can take some of those blue states from Hillary such as NJ, NY, NV – Neither Hillary nor Trump would reach 270 electoral votes. Perot had little chance of taking any red states. He had a lot of popular votes, but no consolidation in any state. The big one that would have to lead this fight is Texas.Without Texas, neither Trump or Hillary may be able to win it.
This is different than ’92. All a 3rd party has to do is win enough states to keep either Trump or Hillary from getting 270 electoral votes. If that happens, the Republican-led House may dump Trump in favor of a reasonably conservative independent who they feel they can work with.
There has been enough hatred for all the candidates so far to possibly get this thing to a runoff. Read the 12th Amendment.
 May 6, 2016 at 10:18pm
If a third party candidate can win enough states to keep Hillary and Trump from getting 270 votes, then we won’t have a populace electing the winner. It will go to a runoff in the House.
 May 6, 2016 at 10:16pm
Well, Shin, I am ALL for blowing up a Trump campaign.
 May 6, 2016 at 10:06pm
Don’t give up just yet. This election is historic. A third party candidate could keep Hillary and Trump from reaching 270 electoral votes.Then, it goes to a runoff in the House. Each state gets one vote from that runoff. No way Hillary wins that. There may even be enough states by that time to dump Trump too. Read the 12th Amendment.
I bet your candidate for the repub nomination lost, got his butt handed to him in the primaries. And you probably favor a contested convention, and if that fails you favor usurping the will of the people in the general election by having a third party voted in by the house. I fought for this country and consider myself a conservative but i haven't seen anything from conservative politicians except whining. I mean, just what the hell have they accomplished?
 May 6, 2016 at 10:03pm
Cruz would have been the conservative of choice. However, now we need to be thinking about a slightly less conservative that won’t scare the hell out of the mushy middle. If a reasonably conservative candidate can win a few states, it could keep Hillary and Trump from getting the 270 votes needed to win. Then, we have a runoff in the House. Read the 12th Amendment.
The republican party can deny trump the nomination legally by changing the rules. Fear of backlash probably prevenys this. How would throwing the responsibility to congress to select a president not incur this same wrath?
Ron/Rand for 2016
If that happens and the person winning the majority of votes is not voted in by the House then standby for a bloody revolution. And who is to say the repubs will maintain their majority in Congress? Cruz, really? What a mix of vinegar and water....ie a dousche.
 May 6, 2016 at 9:55pm
If a serious third party contender wins some states, it could keep both Hillary and Trump from getting 270 votes. Then, it goes to the Republican-led House for a runoff. Each state has one vote from the House. That third party candidate could wind up winning. Read the 12th Amendment.
The only reason the RINO'S want to run a turd-party candidate is to blow up a Trump campaign.
Winning is not on their agenda.
They want to protect these international trade deals and keep the border open.
This is the agenda of the RINO's and Democratic/communist party.
Wrap your skull around it please--and stop being delusional.
Well, Shin, I am ALL for blowing up a Trump campaign.
Wish I saw your post before I posted above. This is not as far fetched as some think. Donny better start playing nice. LOL
Nickey, read the writing on the wall,,Trump,will be the nominee and a third party bid by a conservative republican is nothing but a loser running for office out of spite. If the republican establishment had done its job and stood up to the democrats we would not be in this position. The voters have had enough of the corruption from Dems and Repubs. And you are too stupid or too scared to acknowledge.
 May 6, 2016 at 9:50pm
Hillary is not a shoe-in if a third party runs.Trump will steal some of the angry voters from Hillary, but some states could swing to a reasonably conservative third party candidate. If enough states go third party, the election goes to the House. Each state gets one vote, so NY has the same power that Wyoming does. The big thing is that the third party has to win some states. Read the 12th Amendment.
 May 6, 2016 at 9:45pm
I think a reasonable conservative could win some states. Perhaps it would be enough to keep both Hillary and Trump from not getting 270 electoral votes. Then, it goes to the House. A Republican-led House could dump Trump.
 May 6, 2016 at 9:28pm
In all seriousness, a third party has to be able to get enough electoral votes to keep either Hillary or Trump from getting a majority. Read the 12th Amendment.
Exactly. A 3rd party that focuses on SOME states (some where a solid conservative -- NOT Romney -- can win and some where a progressive usually wins, but where the progressive vote is split between Trump and Clinton) COULD get the decision past the Electoral College ant to the House of Representatives.
That would require Mitt stripping away Hillary voters which is quite unlikely. The strategy is a doomed one from the start and really reeks of the desperation of establishment Rs. They do not care how they win, and it shows a lack of good faith with the American people that would be quite transparent. If people understood this was the strategy, it would backfire badly. I'm already making the popcorn to watch the epic
Undoing of th R party as we know it. This would just make it that much better.
It's an intriguing plan and it would be fun to see that happen, given the right candidate.
It would have to be someone who was not already running, because of the sore loser laws in some states. There are a whole bunch of folks who would be perfect. Romney is a strong choice; although, he is not a staunch conservative like Senator Cruz, he is not Trump or Hillary. I would gladly vote for Mitt.
I already changed my voters registration on Wednesday morning from Republican to Independent. I have been praying for a solution - this is the answer to my prayers.
The strongest possibility would be to run a candidate that could appeal directly to Cruz voters and win Texas. Winning Texas would take 38 electoral college votes and 45 if you include like-minded Oklahoma. So the candidate would need the help of Ted Cruz in a direct (VP) or indirect (endorsement) way.
Cruz could not play a part in the independent campaign until after the convention or he would lose his delegates. Trump came in third in Texas and will fare about the same in the general with his lack of support among Latinos and women.
Antivenom – I know you’re a Democrat, but think about this. Whether we like it or not, this country has a two-party system. Use your strategic mind and think this through. As a Democrat, or at least a lefty supporter, you have to be happy with the presidential electoral map as it has evolved over time. Demographics are pushing it ever more in your party’s favor, as the parties are currently aligned. We all can see it, even if some don’t want to accept it. Republicans have to play a nearly perfect game every four years to even have a snowball’s chance in hell of winning, while Democrats can lose two or three states here and there, and still win comfortably.
The thing about two party systems, though, is that each one uses the other as a foil. What one is, the other isn’t, by definition. Mathematically we can call it the “reflexive property”. So when one party, this year being the Republicans, threatens to shift the landscape and cause realignment, the map can begin to change. Don’t think all the neocons and Wall Street bankers will go Democrat without a lot of blue collar workers and anti-globalists going Republican.
I know say you want to get out the popcorn and watch the Republicans crack up, but due to the reflexive property, the Dems are going to crack up also. That’s the inertia or our system. It’s a reflexive crack-up. In quantum mechanics, it’s also called entropy. Trump, in causing chaos, may save the Republicans from future irrelevancy by changing the alignment of both parties’ coalitions. And since he did it first, shedding what he despises and grabbing what he desires for his newly aligned party, there isn’t anything the Democrats can do about it, but say goodbye to the old Democrats and welcome the crap we’re throwing away.
buddynoel – Good God, man! I can’t believe how much of this Democrat troll poison you’ve swallowed. Go to the phone right now and call poison control at 1-800-222-1222 post haste! Texas? Really, Buddy? Do you know anything about Texas?
Over here, if you want to get your name on the November ballot as an independent candidate for President, you have to have 80,000 registered voters sign the same petition for the same candidate. By random samples, the 80,000 names and signatures have to be verified by the Texas Secretary of State, who must then certify said candidate to be qualified for inclusion as an independent presidential candidate on the November ballot statewide here in Texas. The entire process must be completed no later than … wait for it …
(Jeopardy! theme song) Da-da-da-da-da-da-da…
Monday, May 9, 2016.
TWO DAYS FROM TODAY! Woo-hoo!
This is a very bad idea unless you really want Hillary to win and we loose the Supreme Court for the rest of my lifetime. There is enough difference in the court alone to justify Trump over Hillary.
It was Ross Perot that gave us the Clintons. Just how well did that work out for us?
Any of this talk is aiding and abetting the enemy.
Or is this really about Power, Money and Lobbyist rather than what is best for the country?