I hate Monday morning quarter-backing events like this. So I will wait and see what the investigation reveals. On the surface, and according to the article it appears the gun shots all came from the police officer. The first barrage clearly in confusion and in the height of the moment someone pulls a gun on you and imho..justified. But the pause and the subsequent shots afterwards are a concern to me. This leads me to believe the officer might have been acting in a revenge state of mind because this ***** just tried to kill him. I’m fine with that but not fine with him taking shots on a street with citizens on it if that is when that poor guy got hit. Here in NY, our self-defense laws are very clear and do not allow discharging a firearm at a fleeing attacker under any circumstance. If the officer was just a armed citizen, then the initial attack would have been justified but the subsequent shots after would not have been. This is my problem when it comes to police officer standards for self-defense and the average citizens. We as citizens CCW holders are held to a far higher standard. That has to change.
 August 30, 2015 at 1:34pm
HAHA…..What so wrong with it? Some of you on here act as if you’re not being tracked. Fact is, illegal aliens enjoy the freedom we think we have. They have anonimity and no one in government cares to know who they are. You on the other hand are track via, email, cell phone, web accounts, voter registration, bank accounts, credit cards, discount cards, ez-pass, web browsing……ect…..and of course comments posted to this site. haha
You are 100% correct. When illegals get pulled over, they no longer get cited. You cant prove who they are. They all have three names. I may as well write a telephone pole a ticket. You cant take them to jail because they are no longer deported under the Obama administration. When they visit ICE in jail all they have to do is say they are a citizen and can no longer be questioned because under Obama the ICE Officers and Agents are forced to apply the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) Directive. This applies to all illegals not just kids.
You are tracked, traceable and held accountable. They are not.
November 24, 2012 at 12:24am
All this talk about 2016 is ridiculous. It is over for the GOP. By the time 2016 comes around over 51% of voters in swing states will be on some form of government assistance and NOT likely to vote against those handouts. The big push is on now, Unions will control elections out right. If you live in a swing state and stayed home because Romney wasn’t your man, then you contributed to Mr. O’s victory and the downfall of the country. We need to move on and prepare for the new United States of America and try not to make anymore mistakes. 2014 is the goal. Maintain the House and get back the senate. It is our only chance before history repeats.
Hell will freeze over before the people who either DIDN'T vote for Romney because he wasn't perfect OR didn't vote because the system is "flawed" OR didn't vote because they wanted Ron Paul (omg) OR didn't vote because the world is their little oyster - ADMIT THEY HELPED RE-ELECT OBAMA. And now we're all going to suffer for another MISERABLE FOUR YEARS - because people didn't get up off their asses and VOTE. So to those people, I say - ENJOY YOURSELVES. Enjoy your "statements about the election" for the next AT LEAST four years while you watch your finances and liberties gradually diminish. In fact, it will be so gradual a change that you won't even see if unless you suddenly awaken from your stupor that has gotten ALL OF US into this. Voting machines or no voting machines.
November 6, 2012 at 3:35pm
My only problem is that how does she know its her father that subscribed when actually names are not associated with youtube screen names? Anyone?
October 27, 2012 at 5:06pm
I used to respect this guy. I’m sure others did as well. Using race to hide incompetence is deplorable. Good bye Mr. Powell.
September 30, 2012 at 12:55pm
@ WEST COAST PATRIOT- You are right. They’re not building a conventional nuke missile They are building suit case/backpack nukes. Iran could never openly fight the USA, but it can through proxy. Much like they have been doing in Iraq and the Stan with their sophisticated IED’s. Iran has more American service members blood on their hand than you or this administration will care to admit. Wake the &^%$ up you simpleton!
September 16, 2012 at 1:42pm
@Weiners Wiener- The police are at fault? The story said one of the officers thought he might be intoxicated. No crime committed as the person was not driving. Took the person off the highway to a Taco bell because of a language barrier and got no where. So they released him. Would you rather they detain him on suspicion of a possible future crime? Say possible public drunkenness, DWI, rape robbery…you know things people do why possible under the influence of something? You actually would advocate detention and substance testing of anyone buying alcohol, gun, ammo, fuel…ect, because they might break the law in the future using such purchases? I don’t believe in the nanny state, but you apparently do. Blame he is solely with the man. He was an adult and had a right to live his life anyway he wanted too. As for his immigration status, I agree with everyone else. That man would be alive today if he was in the process of deportation. But Mr. O thinks differently.
September 13, 2012 at 6:28pm
The statement of “to protect and serve” is misleading. It means to protect and serve the interests of the the local government, and nothing more. I’m sure you can guess what those interests are. I’m not making it up. You cannot sue your local PD for failure to prevent or stop a crime.
September 9, 2012 at 1:30pm
@forthepeople- Unfortunately that will only allow Barry to stay in power until the people forget about elections and then a dictator is born. The enemy of my enemy is my friend. Don’t believe the polls. The media is on a full court press to discourage voter turn out with the Independents and Republicans voting blocks. Those of you voting any other way in this election except Republican are only giving Barry a second term. Don’t bash me because I know it is unfortunate.
September 8, 2012 at 8:18pm
Tough situation. Is it 100 percent preventable? No. I’m not trying to Monday-morning quarterback this but, clearly the NYPD needs to review its training program. The officer situational awareness leaves something to be desired. Called to the scene of a possible armed robbery in progress he approaches and proceeds to hang around the front door. Either commit to entry or pull back and wait for back up. Standing there looking around in the open makes you a target. Next, when exactly did his finger go to the trigger? Right. It was ALWAYS there. This lack of basic weapons discipline cause more accidental discharges than police departments care to acknowledge. Like I said it is not 100 percent preventable but the NYPD weapons training for the basic foot patrol officers need serious updating and standard raised. Failure to pass should be a step towards another line of work. Just my 2 cents.
September 6, 2012 at 9:25pm
Still waiting on their plan for the future. I’m tired of politicians treating the us like idiots. WOW john what a great line! I’m voting democrat now. @#$-hole.
Blaze, please. The entire quote:
"After more than ten years without justice for thousands of Americans murdered on 9/11, after Mitt Romney said it would be 'naïve' to go into Pakistan to pursue the terrorists, it took President Obama, against the advice of many, to give that order and finally rid this earth of Osama bin Laden," Kerry said. "Ask Osama bin Laden if he's better off now than he was four years ago."
Funny how the Blaze missed that first part. Required too much ink I guess.
How many yachts did this pos buy with Jonh Heinz money? How many of those ketchup jobs are outsourced? He is a fraud with a capital F.
Sadly, JZS, your side's need for blatant dishonesty makes you easy targets. Take your "misquoted" and "out of context" complaints back to the Daily Kos, where like-minded-simpletons will agree with you.
JZS, going into Pakistan has not only p*ssed them off, but this admin has put the life of the doctor that helped them locate OBL in peril. They've pretty much told Pakistan to take a hike as they send in drones to kill people. I'd say the relationship between our 2 countries is at best hanging by a thread. And then this admin leaks info to filmmakers to make the POS in the WH out to the hero, when it took him 3 times to finally give the go ahead once the real leader behind this b*tthole said it was ok. No, Romney is right...what a naive SOB mistake to enter a foreign country without their knowledge. The USA would be as angry if the same were done to us. Get a clue!
Remember when John Kerry was speaking at the Florida University and the college student was arrested and tased for asking a question about Skull and Crossbones?
kalli, sad that you and the Republicans are so weak on terrorism and wish to coddle them and beg the Pakistanis to love us on bended knee.
Oh, and Osama bin Laden actually did "do the same to us." I suppose you'd let any criminal hide there as a refuge.
“Ask Osama bin Laden if he’s better off now than he was four years ago.”
Usama personally hates being dead. But considering his age, how famous (not infamous; people name their sons after him) he is in the Muslim world & the fact that Al Qaeda is spreading like they have since Billy Bubba Clinton's time in the 1990s, he would be very happy.
Al Qaeda is in Mali, Somalia, Yemen, Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Syria, Algeria, Pakistan, & Afghanistan
Jihadis have been flowing from Afghanistan to Yugoslavia to Chechnya to Georgia to Somalia to Sudan since the 1990s. And no liberal has done anything effective to stop it.
I don't know what liberal college professors think should be done, but frankly those guys don't have a clue.
If the Taliban attacks are slightly off as the Obama beholden Pentagon claims, it would be because, some of the Al Qaeda fighters have diverted to Mali.
Analysis: The Taliban's 'momentum' has not been broken
Go join Code Pink so you can get in good with Hamas & the Egyptian Muslims Brotherhood . It would be one way to bootlick & brown nose so as to not get your head cut off.
JZS - like everything else, liberals like yourself only care about certain things if it has value politically. Most liberals thought America deserved what bin Laden did, and were willing to give him a get-out-of-jail-free card. It's only when Obama realized it might help him politically did he give the go-ahead after Valerie Jarrett gave him permission. You see...Barack doesn't do anything without the ladies surrounding him for permission.
JZS, it's obviously past your bedtime, so dream on this note...your posts always make perfect senselessness.
Sorry DEMOCRATS.ARE.EVIL. it was a campaign promise he made in 2008 before he was elected, when Bush had explicitly said he didn't worry about bin Laden anymore.
But as far as you just makin' stuff up? Not bad. I've heard less probable lies than that.
Analysis: The Taliban‘s ’momentum’ has not been broken
Taliban & Al Qaeda are joined at the hip.
Al Qaeda is in more places than ever such as Mali.
Spirit of Usama to John F_____ Kerry: " I am happy"
DEMOCRATSAREWONDERFUL . . . "Most liberals thought America deserved what bin Laden did, and were willing to give him a get-out-of-jail-free card."
Actually, most conservatives agreed it was worth it to let the twin towers be attacked because it gave us reason to invade Iraq. And letting bin Laden go was part of the bargain.
Posted on September 6, 2012 at 10:13pm
kalli, sad that you and the Republicans are so weak on terrorism and wish to coddle them and beg the Pakistanis to love us on bended knee.
Oh, and Osama bin Laden actually did “do the same to us.” I suppose you’d let any criminal hide there as a refuge.
Then I suppose the mighty Democrats will go in and clean out these terrorist in any country of the world. Good luck on that. I guess you have just become a Republican war monger. Notice that death of American troops continue but since there is a Democrat in the White House no mention of any anti war has appeared. I guess the best bet is to have a Democrat go to war so no one will complain.
September 4, 2012 at 8:50pm
When the military is used as a political tool, morality trumps any brotherhood code. Maybe, just maybe those SEAL’s instead of reciting the oath, sit down and understand the oath. The oath is to the AMERICAN PEOPLE and not the government.
September 3, 2012 at 6:43pm
He should have just told them he was a democrat voter and that he shouldn’t have to produce ID. Oh, I see secured access to the convention is far more important than secured voting. Gotcha! silly me.
September 1, 2012 at 10:22pm
Jesus! Talk about polishing the silverware while the house is burning. This administration can’t be serious. Can it? Or, maybe they’re right to have utter contempt for the American people. A good portion of us are useful idiots.
Anything short of a take back of the congress and complete landslide presidential election is failure. It’s that critical folks.
August 25, 2012 at 1:15am
Calm down boot! There was NO SHOOT OUT! This isn’t Iraq or the Stan. As a police officer, you have to have situation awareness when US citizens would possible be collateral damage. The police can’t have this “us vs them” mentality and damn the innocents because I’m going home to my family nonsense. Read the article. If it is correct, then officers fired with no immediate threat. Meaning the suspect didn’t fire or point his weapon. If it is proper NYPD procedure to use deadly force in that situation, because a weapon is present, then a shot from behind cover was possible and should have been the done. You may get away with spraying rounds like that some where else, but not here. the fact that you have no concern about the citizens who were shot is alarming. We won’t know exactly where they were standing in relation to the perp when they were hit, but that apparently is no interest to you. If you have a concealed carry permit, please keep your weapon holster. The public will be safer.
August 24, 2012 at 10:46pm
I don’t have much of a problem with this guy being upset about the book but lets face it, SEAL’s are always looking for the limelight. My problem is when he says that politics shouldn’t play any part while in the teams. He is kidding me? Politics will soon play a large part in it when a team will be tasked with an op on US soil and against US citizens. DON’T FORGET YOUR OATH! You can disobey an unlawful order. WAKE UP! Oh, and if he didn’t write someone else would have.
August 24, 2012 at 10:34pm
No one should be puzzled at why NYPD officers fired so many times. I forget what year it was but there was a armed robbery in mid town Manhattan and responding officers chased the suspect down the street firing at the the suspect as the chase continued. The suspect entered a parking garage and the police kept firing. Later they found a dead body next to a Mercedes and first reports were that is was the robbery suspect. Well, not quite. It happened to be an innocent bystander but police claimed he was shot by the suspect. Well, not really. It was later learned that several of the 210 rounds fired by the NYPD were recovered from that body. IMHO, 95 percent of police officers have no business carrying a firearm let alone using it. I am certain that any CCW holder, acting in the defense of himself and the public’s safety, would be charged with at least 9 counts of reckless endangerment. NYPD? All in a days work. search for videos of police and crossfire. It will make you cringe! They say you can’t be trusted with a firearm. lol
August 19, 2012 at 11:08am
I’m not going to pass judgement on these officers until a full investigation or lack of one, is done. I will however address police officers in general. Like others who have posted, I also witnessed officers behaving badly. In one instance, two Officers, straight out of the academy were at my friends (NYPD officer) house party. Granted they were drunk, but both asked if I have ever shot a ni**er. Before I could tell them I was not on the job, one looked at the other and said ” I can’t wait to shoot my first ni**er”. I walk away.wondering what really motivated them to become public servants. A title most police officers really don’t recognize, but use as an excuse for their behavioral indiscretions when questioned and for conjure up blind public support. This goes up to the highest levels of any police command. I can deal with the rogue police officer. Every command has a few, but what I and the public should not tolerate is the deliberate, in your face, lack of participation from other officers to root out these bad apples that plague every department. The Blue Line of Silence as it is called is complete BS. Every officer knows who in their department is acting outside the scope of their authority ( the bad apples) but uses the excuse of this blue line BS to some how come to terms with it. It is disgraceful. You are an complicit to any crime that office will do, or has done. Clean up the ranks and the public will back you. Maybe I’m wrong, or just held to a different st
You're right. .. if the police do not have a sense of honor towards the public they serve then the public has no sense of honor towards them. The principal is loyalty down from authority loyalty up from the ranks
June 8, 2012 at 7:44pm
I think it’s called square breathing and it used to help control panic attacks and individuals that experience them. Nothing new here.
June 5, 2012 at 5:31pm
I’m sure they would like a weapon that could simple replace a specops operator. I believe it is in the works now and it developmental name is “the wish”. Imagine a weapon that can be dialed up from 1 (a slap) to 10 (nuclear destruction) …yep that a wish alright. lol