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OIF3survivor

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  • April 14, 2014 at 10:53am

    Duct maybe they found out the duct tape wasn’t halal approved?

    I’m just waiting for a couple of the trolls to inform us about just how impressive Iranian military power is.

  • April 10, 2014 at 1:24pm

    Numerous? Compared to what precisely? I must have missed something about the millions murdered and women raped in Africa, or pretty much every Embassy bombing over the last two decades being linked to Westboro or some similar wacked out version of Christian fundamentalism.
    The problem is a religion that has one billion adherents. Most of them, don’t read Arabic and so don’t even know what’s in their ‘holy’ book since its discouraged in most countries to read it in anything but the original language. Of the one billion plus, between 5% and 10% can be considered extremists…that’s about how many Westboros…oh wait…they only shout obnoxious and crude slogans at funerals and concerts. Anyway, of the rest of the billion plus, almost NONE of them have the stones to actually stand up and speak out against extremism. They’ll take nameless polls by Pew and other groups but the vast majority sure as hell won’t put their own names out there as being opposed and telling the Muslim Brotherhood, al qaeda and others where to go.

  • April 10, 2014 at 1:09pm

    Where is Zap, rooky, pluralism, and Keaty to remind us all that ‘no one wants to confiscate our guns?’

  • April 10, 2014 at 1:01pm

    It won’t be from some of our trolls unfortunately.

  • April 9, 2014 at 1:47pm

    What is Wrong with this country??? This isn’t about any choice of weapon but evil in our society and culture and hearts.

  • April 9, 2014 at 1:43pm

    Actually Lincoln and Marx were not friends. That’s an old worn out lie. Marx sent a letter to Lincoln and his Ambassador in Britain replied to Marx. No other evidence of correspondence exists.

  • April 5, 2014 at 4:29pm

    I know its a hopeless debate really. You know what you know BECAUSE you know it. The truth or little things like objective truth, evidence, or even a Nazi leaders own words and actions be damned in the face of such ignorance by such as yourself.
    The pagan SS and Ahnenerbe must not have even existed and Himmler’s belief in the World Ice Theory somehow was tied to a secret form of Christianity too. You are a waste of effort, as you are so brainwashed to believe what you do with no evidence or facts outside what those whom you admire say is true.
    I’ll save my degree in history with the research background it entails and my knowledge of German language for someone who is capable of genuine debate and even an iota of knowledge regarding the topic.

  • April 5, 2014 at 4:04pm

    This time I really did laugh out loud with the “bested me” coment.
    You ‘bested me’ without sources or evidence of any kind what so ever. You did so responding to none of the primary sources I provided… typing them in actually. You did so despite your overwhelming ignorance even of what a primary source is. It is most certainly NOT a book, although they are often times collected in books later. No they are the collected utterances and writings of those being discussed. You ‘bested’ me with not a peep about your assertion regarding the senior Nazis being protestant being destroyed and the absolute absurdity of the idea that US citizens observing Thanksgiving is proof of your assertion.
    Your thinking and argumentation is laughable. You also ‘bested’ while studiously avoiding discussing the Ahnenerbe and SS and showing me how those organizations with pagan ties throughout somehow can be linked to the ‘Christian’ control the Nazis somehow exerted. You also avoided my offer to provide more of those primary sources as they relate to harassment and persecution of the Protestant churches or Niemoeller and Bonhoeffer’s imprisonment for speaking out against the Nazi’s ‘heathen’ tendencies as they put it.
    Keep dreaming there little fella. You’re convincing yourself even if I’d be mopping the floor with you right now if this were an actual debate.

  • April 5, 2014 at 12:40pm

    You continue to make assertions-some of them outright laughable or easily refuted with just a minimum of research-and yet provide NO sources. Perhaps you should stop digging your hole even deeper. You are displaying the argumentation skills of a 5th grader.
    The Nazis DID indeed allow the little people to celebrate Christmas and Easter and did make public pronouncements about ‘divine providence’ and such during the war…they also continuously lied about causes and prosecution of the war, denied culpability about T4 project and made fairly strenuous efforts to hide proof the Shoah from German citizens. So once again you have proven a ridiculously uninformed opinion regarding what they said versus what they did.
    Would you care for me to start providing German documents from the time period that go into more detail regarding persecution of Lutherans and their discussions regarding eventually removing Christianity from German culture?
    I would gladly do it because I do so enjoy having this one-sided debate. This isn’t you bringing a knife to a gunfight…this is you being a club-footed, 11 year old with a brain injury bringing a butter knife to a gun fight.

  • April 5, 2014 at 12:30pm

    Secondly, even if I don’t continue supplying the words of senior and mid-level Nazis who were most responsible for planning and leading the commission of the Shoah, the very existence of the SS and Ahnenerbe belie your silly assertion. Please enlighten me on how the SS which Himmler eventually intended to replace the army was a ‘Christian’ organization. Explain to me how Nordic pagan runes prominently displayed and pagan holidays(Winter and Summer Solstice celebrations just to name two) that Himmler outright stated would one day replace Christian holidays were in actually embracing Christianity. Explain to me how the Ahnenerbe which was devoted to finding an Aryan race going back tens of thousands of years and which doevetailed their belief in the World Ice Theory? Before you make a fool of yourself even further, research above mentioned crack-pot theory that was embraced by Himmler as well as research staff of his Ahnenerbe.

    Lastly, I have to say that your comment regarding US citizens celebrating Thanksgiving nearly made me laugh out loud. The very fact that you got caught displaying your ignorance and then tried to cover it with an ingenuous assertion was absurd…pure rubbish. First of all you provided, like with all of your previous assertions, no documentation or evidence. Lets say you’re right though. So WHAT? The Nazis did their level best right up to December 1941 to keep the US out of the war and to impress them prior to hostilities.

  • April 5, 2014 at 12:15pm

    I am almost astounded by the depths of your ignorance…in fact I’m not even 100% sure of where to start but I’ll give it a try here.

    Before I begin I’ll concede that you are not likely engaging in taqiyya…but that is merely because you’ve proven yourself totally incapable of critical thinking and totally uneducated on the topic, not to mention your difficulty with reading comprehension.

    First, the primary sources were often regarding both Lutherans and the Catholics. The harassment and eventual closing of church schools affected both. I cannot expect you to read German as it appears English is even a second language based on your poor argumentation skill. However you should at least TRY to read what I wrote before commenting. As mentioned before, I can always continue and provide more primary sources regarding protestant-centric actions of persecution. I hadn’t even gotten to the imprisonment of Martin Niemoeller and Dietrich Bonhoeffer (who was executed shortly before liberation by US Army units).
    In that same vein, let me continue to where you have proven your lack of knowledge on the subject beyond a shadow of a doubt. Hitler, Himmler, Goebbels and Heydrich ALL came from Catholic backgrounds. In other words they were most assuredly NOT Protestants. If you were educated in German demographics you would likely not have even made the claim, recognizing that the southern part of the country that they came had little protestant heritage.

  • April 4, 2014 at 7:21pm

    You see, Sirhan the old saying is don’t bring a knife to a gunfight and that’s what you figuratively have done. I can continue all day providing you with actually reports from Geheimen Staatspolizei situation reports from all over Germany, Sicherheits Dienst reports, personal memoirs (untranslated if need be), newspaper articles from such propaganda mouthpieces as Volkische Beobachter and Der Stuermer (all umlauted vowels have an e following English convention when writing such) and books published during the time period. I’ll gladly continue making you look more like a fool if you’d care to continue attempting your snark and propaganda my little taqiyya practitioner. Would you like me to? I can provide hundreds more sources that are words and actions from the time period and have plenty of time to spend on it tonight.

    Keep bringing a knife to this theoretic gunfight you silly little jihadist and I’ll continue bringing my M249. :)

  • April 4, 2014 at 7:11pm

    continued:

    Gestapo situation reports in Hesse district 1935 in which Catholic bishops referred to Nazi ideology as ‘Godless and heathen’: Klein, Thomas(ed), Die Lageberichte der Geheimen Staatspolizei ueber die Provinz Hessen-Nassau, 1933-1936 (Cologene, 1986)

    Letters and collected papers of Bishop von Galen regarding the ‘heathen’ and pagan nature of Nazi ideology and harassment by authorities: Loeffler, Peter (ed), Bischof Clemens August Graf von Galen: Akten, Briefe und Predigten 1933-1946

    Papal Encyclical written by Pope Pius XI in 1937(Mit brennender Sorge) regarding the ‘hatred’ and ‘calumny’ directed towards the Catholics by the regime: Albrecht, Dieter (ed), Der Notenwechsel zwischen dem Heiligen Stuhl und der Deutschen Reichsregierung (3 vols., Mainz, 1965-80)

    The source for the above mentioned quote regarding Himmler shutting down on religious press, parenthood classes, harassment of clerics, etc. Remember you told me that I could quote any book as it didn’t actually relate to reality? It was actually a Sicherheits Dienst report that was the source: Boberach, Heinz (ed), Berichte des SD und der Gestapo ueber Kirchen und Kirchenvolk in Deutschland 1934-1944 (Mainz 1971).

    Gestapo actions towards removing church from public life: Prantl, Helmut (ed), Die kirchliche Lage in Bayern nach den Regierungspraesidentenberichten 1933-1943, V: Regierungsbezirk Pfalz 1933-1940 (Mainz, 1978)
    Would you care for a translator (Ich spreche und lese Deutsch)

  • April 4, 2014 at 6:27pm

    Sirhan:
    Your ignorance is only surpassed by your dishonesty. I most certainly did not claim that Christmas was banned in Germany during the war. Thanksgiving is a holiday observed in the United States you fool and thus would have had no relevance to Nazi Germany. To state that there was no persecution of Christians is laughable, if it weren’t so deeply ingrained in the lies (taqiyya) you put forward constantly.
    You are right about facts from a book not being infallible. However, primary sources are not ‘from a book’ you fool. Primary sources-if you understood anything about the study of history you’d know this already-are record from the time period, eg, newspapers, memoirs, official minutes of meetings and such.

    As such I pointed out the writings of HITLER himself, and Speer but let me provide some more.
    1. Regarding the persecution and imprisonment of Evangelical Protestant ministers (Lutheran) for speaking out against the regime: Ribbe, Wolfgang, Die Lageberichte der Geheimen Staatspolezei ueber die Provinz Brandenburg und die Reichshauptstadt Berlin 1933 bis 1936. I: Der Regierungsbezirk Potsdam (Cologne, 1998) This is from situation reports from 1933-36 of the Gestapo in the Berlin/Brandenburg/Potsdam area
    Alfred Rosenburg regarding the Nazi assertion that Catholicism was based on Jewish mysticism and had no place in the Third Reich: Der Mythos der 20. Jahrhunderts: Eine Wertung der seelish-geistigen gestaltenkaempfe unserer Zeit (Munich 1935)

  • April 4, 2014 at 11:34am

    That response is precisely what I expected from a propagandist not nearly as skilled as the Nazi’s he’s lying about.

    “Never mind that all of the primary sources from the Nazis own mouths prove that the Nazis had no Christian tendencies or beliefs and instead followed a pseudo paganism”, you are telling me. Instead you strongly assert, ” I have my beliefs and no amount of truth will overcome them!”

    Well good job then. I won’t wast my time on such a liar incapable of admitting the truth based on the evidence and documentation.
    …actually I probably will go ahead and collect them just so that the next time you spew your bile I can shut you down right away.

  • April 3, 2014 at 6:44pm

    Do I smell more pathetic taqiyya coming?
    I’ll be back this evening to include the primary source material that you don’t want to see.

  • April 3, 2014 at 6:35pm

    They were most certainly NOT Protestant NOR Catholic in their actions and even conversations amongst themselves.
    As mentioned before, there is a clear dichotomy between the words uttered for public consumption and their actual actions and words in private. Are you having trouble with reading comprehension or just merely continuing with your pathetic taqiyya efforts?

  • April 3, 2014 at 6:31pm

    Sirhan:

    you utter and completely foolish man. The sources cited from Richard J Evans ‘The Third Reich in Power’, Mein Kampf, AND Albert Speer’s memoirs. I take it that you enjoy being thoroughly embarrassed and would like the primary sources because I am MORE than willing and MORE than capable of obliging you silly little liar.

  • April 3, 2014 at 12:14pm

    So in spite of your weak attempt at taqiyya you are a failure, just like the child molesting ‘prophet’ you would claim.

    The Nazi’s certainly invoked Christian imagery and words to the masses when it benefited them. Indeed, they even made great proclamations to the Ukrainians whom they meant to nearly exterminate after the war because they also didn’t fit within the Nazi social engineering plans that were being developed on a social darwinist foundation(Nazi Empire Building and the Holocaust in Ukraine, Wendy Lower).
    The reality, however is that within their circles of power Christianity was ridiculed and general plans developed to destroy both the Catholic Church and the Evangelical Church after the successful completion of the war. The source material is VERY clear regarding this and I would be certainly willing to provide citations if you actually were interested in the truth. You aren’t however.
    Instead you’ll make my point for me shortly however by providing the very same statements provided for the consumption of the masses whom they were attempting to fool (kind of like taqiyya that you use in an attempt to keep kafir blind to the truth). You will however studiously avoid the conversations amongst themselves regarding their outright hate of Christianity AND their efforts to prove evolutionary racial superiority through Himmler’s pet ‘Ahnenerbe’ program. In fact, they occasionally also conducted excavations and research into Nordic paganism.

  • April 3, 2014 at 12:01pm

    Would you like me to include the primary sources for you regarding these eminently ‘Christian’ actions by the Nazi leadership? Primary sources mean they came from those being discussed there little fella. Things like Mein Kampf would be included:
    “The political leader should not estimate the worth of a religion by taking some of its shortcomings into account, but he should ask himself whether there be any practical substitute in a view which is demonstrably better. Until such a substitute be available only fools and criminals would think of abolishing the existing religion.”
    “The two Christian denominations look on with indifference at the profanation and destruction of a noble and unique creature who was given to the world as a gift of God’s grace. For the future of the world, however, it does not matter which of the two triumphs over the other, the Catholic or the Protestant. But it does matter whether Aryan humanity survives or perishes.” (remember me mentioning social darwinism?)

    Or maybe Speer’s memoirs would be enlightening?
    HItler said during one outburst “You see it’s been our misfortune to have the wrong religion. Why didn’t we have the religion of the Japanese, who regard sacrifice for the Fatherland as the highest good? The Mohammedan religion too would have been much more compatible to us than Christianity. Why did it have to be Christianity with its meekness and flabbiness?”

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