It would appear that having a master's degree makes pastors less likely to understand what the Bible says.
But I would contend that it isn't the degree -- it's the source of the degree. Too many young Christian men go to a conservative Christian university/seminary for their bachelor's, then believe that they can handle the doctrinal error of liberal universities/seminaries for their advanced degrees.
Just like many Christian high-school graduates who believe that they are now strong enough to handle the negative pressures of a public college/university, resulting in the majority of those who end up losing their faith completely.
Many different people see many different things in the bible. It's a bit of a problem.
According to the Bible, the Holy Spirit provides understanding. Our pride and arrogance keeps us from believing. Definitely a problem for most of us.
People see things differently because they want things their own way, the way they want it.
The scriptures tell us what we should do, but just as Adam and Eve did, they chose their own way of looking at things. They were not satisfied with God's direction.
13 “Go in through the narrow gate, because broad is the gate and spacious is the road leading off into destruction, and many are going in through it; 14 whereas narrow is the gate and cramped the road leading off into life, and few are finding it. (Matthew 7:13,14)
That scripture is easy to understand.
So you have it all right whitefang?
I am doing the best I can. :-)
stop: Where, specifically in the Bible does it say the Holy Spirit provides each individual their own "understanding" of Scripture?
I'd like to read that passage please.
While you're at it, can you explain why in the book of Acts, Philip comes across the Ethiopian eunuch reading the book of Isaiah, and Philip asked him, "Do you understand what you are reading?", in which the eunuch replied, "No, how could I without a teacher to teach me?"
Philip didn't proceed to teach the eunuch how to ask for the Holy Spirit's "guidance", but instead, Philip himself interpreted the Scripture for him, which ultimately led to the eunuch's baptism.
I'm just wondering why the Holy Spirit would lead one man to one truth (according to him), and another man to a completely different, and often contradictory truth (according to him)? Does God contradict Himself?
So, how do you decide who is right, and who is wrong when you come up with two completely different "Holy Spirit Inspired" interpretations?
having initials after your name makes one feel more important thus ensuring a greater degree of self worth same with status of pedigree or money. Adonai looks at the heart of the person, not the outside. see 1 Samuel 16:7.
Acts 2:38 Peter replied, 'Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.'
1 Corinthians 2:12 'Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God, that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.'
John 16:13 'When he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will show you things to come.'
1 Corinthians 6:19 'Or do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit within you, whom you have from God..? You are not your own.'
Grt: Thanks. But this still doesn't address the question.
How do you determine who is right and who is wrong when two different Biblical interpretations contradict one another?
Say the two "readers" are BOTH equally sincere in their desire to be led by the Holy Spirit. Both pray for the Holy Spirit's "guidance", yet they come up with contradicting interpretations?
Does the Holy Spirit lead different people to different "truths"? In other words, does the Holy Spirit (God) contradict Himself?
Confusion results when a student takes a scripture and builds an idea around it. He or she fails to consider how other scriptures contribute to the subject that will lead to clear understanding. It is Bible study. Study is work and the more a person works at the study, the more he will understand.
For example, what is the Kingdom of God? How does Genesis 3:16 relate to Matthew 24:14 or the Book of Revelation?
'Philip comes across the Ethiopian eunuch'
Philip was sent by an angel of the Lord to tell the eunuch the good news about Jesus.
Acts 8:29 'And the Spirit said to Philip, "Go over and join this chariot" So Philip ran to him and heard him reading Isaiah the prophet.'
Acts 8:29 clearly states that Philip was indwelt by the Holy Spirit, and in Acts 8:37 we see that the Ethiopian eunuch accepted Jesus Christ and was baptized.
Acts 8:36 As they traveled along the road, they came to some water and the eunuch said, "Look, here is water. What can stand in the way of my being baptized...?"
Acts 8:37 And Philip said, "If you believe with all your heart, you may." And he answered and said, "I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God."
The Ethiopian eunuch didn't know Christ, Philip did...and if you read Acts 2:38, Peter states: "Repent and be baptized and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit."
One must accept Jesus Christ before being indwelt with the Holy Spirit.
Fang: Ok, but allow me to present a major problem. "Bible study", for the protestant who espouses "sola scriptura" is like the Constitutional scholar who ONLY reads the Constitution, and nothing else.
Now, how educated would you consider a Constitutional scholar to be if the only thing he claimed was important to study was the Constitution itself? no other writings from the authors of the Constitution. No case law. No other speeches or writings of other scholars. Just the Constitution, ALONE???
Let me narrow my question: Say you "study" the Bible for a year, and interpret "Holy Communion", or "Eucharist" as merely figurative and representative in nature, not literally being the "body and blood of Christ".
Fine...but say you come across a teaching and/or writing from a direct disciple of Peter the Apostle, and HIS interpretation on Eucharist contradicts your interpretation?
Then what? Keeping in mind that your interpretation is contradicting the interpretational teaching of the Apostles and their direct disciples.
How do you decide who is right?
How do you decide who is right?
Education, coupled with good old common sense. - Psalms 1:1-2
Grt: All good, but you are still not getting to the heart of the question. You are interjecting an opinion, that the "gift" of the Holy Spirit is the ability to RIGHTFULLY interpret Holy Scripture.
YOu and I both know "Christians", who are sincere in their faith, have accepted Jesus Christ, have been baptized, and ARE Christians that interpret the Bible differently, and many times contradictory.
I'll ask again. In THAT SCENARIO, who is right and who is wrong? They cannot BOTH be right if their interpretations contradict one another! Or will you say that the Holy Spirit (God) contradicted Himself?
Fang: Oh, ok....lol
Well, I went to a better seminary than you did, and got better grades, therefore I'm right and you're wrong.
That's how it works eh?
You see, when people reject the teachings that were given to us by Christ's Apostles, and are replaced with "individual" interpretations of truth, this is what results.
Who has the better education, which is subjective, and who has the most "common sense", which is HIGHLY subjective.
Let us consider a religious teaching. The Trinity Doctrine.
What does the Holy Scriptures say about that? What does it NOT say about that?
What did Jesus Christ say that would lead someone to believe he was GOD?
- John chapter 17
Fang: I know what the Bible says, but I get the feeling you're about to tell me what you THINK it means.
Too many people seem to think they are one and the same.
Tell me, what if YOUR interpretation contradicts say John Chrysostom's interpretations? Do you know who that is?
Or say your interpretation contradicts Peter's oral teachings to the Church?
DO you honestly think everything that Christ or His Apostles "taught" is recorded in the Bible? Do you honestly believe that unless it's printed in the Bible, what Jesus taught and said is unimportant?
It's like me claiming I'm a Constitutional expert, and when you ask me what my credentials are, I tell you I've read the Constitution. Nothing more. Just read the Constitution for myself, which makes me qualified to interpret the intricacies of the 10th Amendment.
You would laugh!
jb504079…Perhaps you mean discernment…?
NO Other Gospel…
Galatians 1:6-9 ‘I marvel that you are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ to another gospel: Which is not another, but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than that which we have preached to you, let him be accursed. As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel to you than that you have received, let him be accursed.’
1 John 4:1 ‘Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world.’
If it does not align with God’s word, the Bible…toss it out. I have been told “Bible only” is unbiblical…yet HIS word says…
Revelation 22:18-19 ‘For I testify to every man that hears the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add to these things, God shall add to him the plagues that are written in this book: And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.’
I believe God’s word…not man’s, it’s called discernment, and the true followers of Christ DO NOT differ in their understanding…but there are many wolves (false prophets) in sheep’s clothing looking to lead others astray.
Grt: And you see? I've wrangled you back to square one. We've come full circle now. Because of your "man made doctrine", which is "sola scriptura", which I find to be totally ironic you say you follow the Word, and not man, yet you are operating under a doctrinal practice OF MEN, who invented it during the Protestant Reformation!
Let me educate you, the belief in "BIBLE ALONE" is called "sola scriptura". Martin Luther nailed his "solas" to the door of a Catholic Parish he was the priest of! They were declarations of MEN.
Full circle. You are forced into saying that only "true" Christians don't contradict each other. Let me guess, if I disagree with you, I'm not the "true" Christian in that conversation, am I?
You've just condemned 99% of Christians, because I bet you'll have a hard time finding even 1% of Christians who agree on everything and with you on top of that.
Christ's authority passed to his Apostles, who were instructed to "build My Church" by Christ. Not to "write a book", but to "build a Church". And they did.
I'll leave you to consider ONE thing. Christ commissioned MEN to establish His Church, and Christ said that even the gates of hell would NEVER prevail against it. SO it must be among us today. You've rejected that Church though, for you reject it's rightful authority that was passed to it through Christ's Apostles.
Before you accuse me of claiming it's the Roman Catholic Church, think again. I'm not Catholic. I'm Orthodox.
JB- John C apparently was against pagan traditions, even thought he was taught early on by pagans. I bring up the pagan issue, because he appears to have been severely against such traditions, Wiki- "the theatre, horseraces, and the revelry surrounding holidays. In particular, he criticized Christians for taking part in such activities"
If I could I would ask him how he feels about people "commemorating him" every year.....
If I am reading it correctly, commemorating him is giving him worship for a day? dies natalis - I would think that is a form of false worship, to a wordly man, and how ironic that he was opposed to that very practice. Just my .02 cents.
'Christ’s authority passed to his Apostles, who were instructed to “build My Church” by Christ. Not to write a book, but to build a Church'
The "Church" IS NOT a structural building, it is the BODY of believers, who happen to make up the BODY of Christ, who is the HEAD of the Church.
The BODY of Christ...
1 Corinthians 12:12-14 'For as the body is one, and has many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body: so also is Christ. For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free, and have been all made to drink into one Spirit. For the body is not one member, but many.'
1 Corinthians 12:18-20 'But in fact, God has arranged the members of the body, every one of them, according to His design. If they were all one part, where would the body be..? As it is, there are many parts, but one body.'
'I’m not Catholic. I’m Orthodox'
Do you follow the "pope"...the man who called Jesus Christ's crucifixion a failure...?!
'If at times our efforts and works seem to fail and not produce fruit, we need to remember that we are followers of Jesus Christ and his life, humanly speaking, ended in failure, the failure of the cross'
Apparently, you're looking for a fight...not interested, find someone else.
No, we don't follow the "Pope". Again, I'm not Roman Catholic.
The "body" is the Church, the bridegroom, and yes it has many members. But like the human body, which has many parts, not every part has equal authority over the body. Not every part smells, or sees, or reasons.
Protestant doctrine, which is the doctrine of MEN, which you don't claim you follow, is what defines the "body" of Christ as everyone who says they're Christians. But you just said that "true" Christians never contradict one another. Now you're in the business of defining what a "true" Christian is!
Therefore only the "true" Christians make up the body? And who are the "true" Christians? Only the ones who agree with you!
You see, I know you are a Christian. Misinterpreting Scripture doesn't mean you aren't a Christian believer and saved. That's our difference. I would never say you aren't a true Christian for the way you interpret Scripture. But your MAN MADE doctrines force you to judge "true" Christians from fake ones!
This is why you should evaluate what I've said to u. You say you don't follow men, but you are a man! You're following YOURSELF, A MAN!
Seek: With respect, John C wrote the liturgy that is most commonly used today within the Orthodox Church. The entire Orthros before Liturgy is devoted to commemorating martyrs and saints.
Throughout John C’s Liturgy, saints are commemorated.
So, we don’t have to wonder. We Orthodox know, because we use HIS actual Liturgy most every week. He wrote it! We already knkw!
You do need the mind of a gullible fool to believe it though.
jb is not in union with Rome, he's Orthodox, but speaks with great wisdom on the matters at hand.
As for the Pope's comments, he is theologically 100% correct. Many thought the Cross was folly. In fact it was thought by humans to be such folly, failure, that it was a stumbling block. Not what the Jews expected in a Messiah. Fortunately Christians know to think not with human standards, but with God's. God the Father's plan was perfectly carried out by the perfect Son.
"For the word of the cross is folly to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God.
For Jews demand signs and Greeks seek wisdom, but we preach Christ crucified, a stumbling block to Jews and folly to Gentiles, but to those who are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God.
For the foolishness of God is wiser than men, and the weakness of God is stronger than men" (1 Cor. 1:18, 22-25).
Not only is what jb said very true, and ample, but you can read entire homilies dedicated to St. Ignatius and St. Babylas, so important was it to him to commemorate saints.
The Church commemorating saints couldn't be more distinct and divergent from pagans celebrating their false gods. There is nothing false about a saint who has finished the race and won the prize, as all Christians hope to.
'I would never say you aren’t a true Christian...You’re following YOURSELF'
Seems you just did...
Continue in Him...
1 John 2:24-25 'As for you, let what you have heard from the beginning remain in you. If it does, you will also remain in the Son and in the Father. And this is the promise that He Himself made to us: eternal life.'
Read 1 John 2:26-27, carefully...
1 John 2:26-27 'I have written these things to you about those who are trying to deceive you. And as for you, the anointing (Holy Spirit) you received from Him remains in you, and you do not need anyone to teach you. But just as His true and genuine anointing (Holy Spirit) teaches you about all things, so remain in Him as you have been taught.'
1 John 2:28 'And now, little children, remain in Him, so that when He appears, we may be confident and unashamed before Him at His coming.'
1 John 2:29 'If you know that He is righteous, you also know that everyone who practices righteousness is born of Him.'
'John C wrote the liturgy most commonly used within the Orthodox Church'
A man, the same kind of man you accuse me of following.
Your hypocrisy knows no bounds...you can keep your "truth"...
Grt: You're not the "same kind of man" John C was, first of all.
Read the scriptures you just cited. The first one says they didn't need to be taught, and at the end of the verse instructs them to "remain in Him AS YOU HAVE BEEN TAUGHT!"
They didn't need to be taught by anyone else, because they had been taught by the ones CHRIST SENT IN HIS OWN PLACE....THEMSELVES!
It's a letter, don't read it like it's to YOU, because it's not. It was written to THEM.
I have no hypocrisy in this matter. I don't judge who the "true" Christians are. You do.
You're mind is still trapped in "if he's right and I'm wrong, I'm not saved", and visa versa.
What a fundamentalist view.
You never did tell me who the "true" Christians were. But I won't make you say it. I know what you think.
'You’re not the “same kind of man” John C was'
Oh...?! Would that be a sinner...or a saint...?
Revelation 14:12 'Here is a call for the endurance of the saints, those who keep the commandments of God and their faith in Jesus.'
'You’re mind is still trapped in 'if he’s right and I’m wrong, I’m not saved'
All I can do is...LOL...
'I know what you think'
All you have, like the rest of the catholics here, are arrogance and assumptions.
John 6:44 'No man can come to me, except the Father who has sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.'
6:36-46 'The discovery of their guilt, danger, and remedy, by the teaching of the Holy Spirit, makes men willing and glad to come, and to give up every thing which hinders applying to him for salvation. The Father's will is, that not one of those who were given to the Son, should be rejected or lost by him. No one will come, till Divine grace has subdued, and in part changed his heart...therefore no one who comes will ever be cast out. The gospel finds none willing to be saved in the humbling, holy manner, made known therein...but God draws with his word and the Holy Spirit, and man's duty is to hear and learn...that is to say, to receive the grace offered, and consent to the promise.'
 May 14, 2016 at 11:12am
Revealing your personal income tax records to the world is not what anybody wants to do.
Then don't run for public office or president of the United States.
And invasion of privacy is right.
Looking to see when all this bs started seems Nixon challenged his opponent in the Checkers speech after which they did theirs, he declined. Other presidents have had their tax returns donated to their libraries.
Make it a requirement or law.
Till that time the prevailing law is nobody except irs has any right to that info !
Then you can make a big deal about it!
Make it a requirement or law.
Till that time the prevailing law is nobody except irs has any right to that info !
Then you can make a big deal about it!
Trump ran on and is running on what a "great business man" he is. He should have to prove it's true. Lets see if he is telling the truth. Let us see what is in there. The man IS being audited after all. He says that it is routine but why should we take his word for it. Is he still spouting that he is worth 9 billion or has he dialed that back yet?
On top of that he's a business man first. No telling who could use the tax returns to their benefit to get an edge on Trump.
 May 14, 2016 at 11:01am
polksaladandy, “A true pro would have seen his trailer was garbage and would have never taken it on the road.”
That’s it isn’t it!
My family was in the trucking business since 1914 starting with those old chain driven Mack’s. My great-grandfather, his sons, my grand-father and his son, my father all drove trucks. Even my step-father drove for P.I.E. in the late 50′s .
Some drivers today are not professional.
 May 14, 2016 at 10:41am
An under-inflated tire is one thing but a broken shackle is another.
 May 14, 2016 at 10:35am
Having to pull some crappy trailer not my own would make me nervous. So many of them are not maintained.
April 25, 2016 at 12:36pm
What would happen if everyone on earth burped at the same time?
 April 21, 2016 at 1:07pm
This country is in the toilet.
Not only in the toilet but it has been flushed.
I am ashamed of how we humans have devolved into complete insanity.
Heya the young kids they are turning out of schools. All they want is the miles safety is down the list.
I blame the retreads. The sidewalls can only take so many miles, sometimes.
OLD TRUCKERS, his "load shifted"! ; )
Who is Mr. Potato Head.
No kidding. His entire truck shifted.
At least it's only a westernstar.
THE CANUCKIAN, "At least it’s only a westernstar."
Cause of accident solved! The Canadian built truck was trying to turn to the right and, as everyone knows, Canada never goes to the Right. ; )
A stunt driver.
 March 20, 2016 at 12:02am
you need to calm down buddy.
 March 19, 2016 at 11:58pm
If you can’t afford to tip a waitress, you should not go out to eat. Cook at home.
Waitresses work hard and the restaurant does not pay enough to live on. Those girls need their tips.
 March 19, 2016 at 11:52pm
I have seen many waitresses and they come in all forms. This gal is indeed weird with all those ugly tattoos. If she wants to be more acceptable to the general public, she does need to clean up her act.
On the other hand I think she really does not care to present herself as “normal” and she will then continue to be looked act sideways.
Think about it. She works at ZOMBIE burger. And yes, the decor and the burgers quite reflect this. I refuse to eat there.
People expect class at Hooters and "normal" at Zombie Burger and $15/hr to push buttons and spit on my hamburger after they get it wrong.
But being special is not always being normal. In some form or another. Or hiding the fact of being special. Hence the best way to hide. Is to be normal.
 March 8, 2016 at 1:57pm
I have always wondered why TV reporters stand on the curbs with their backs toward on-coming traffic?
Years ago I drove a Kennworth, 350 Cummins in Montreal for a transport company.
Sometimes I miss the old 15 speed transmission ;)
That’s what happens when you stand on the side of a busy highway creating a distraction. Somebody is going to take their eyes off the road and crash into somebody else.
Indirectly they are responsible for that crash.
It's a symbolic gesture of how they have turned their back on reality and what's really going on
Hence why they are bias left leaning.
Having worked in the show biz for 18yrs, I can safely say I never met a news person (neither camera operator or eyecandy) who qualified as having entertained an original thought in their head..
real journalism is NEVER done in that manner, since the early 60's all tv 'journalism' has been little more than herd mentality 'group thought'... so no, it shouldn't surprise you at all..
A busy street keeps the photo-bombers to either side and off camera.
Back in the 1970's our Scout Master was known to have his little buddies. Nobody from the church (UCC) checked it out. Well, the Pastor was sniffing around the Church Secretary, he had no time for accountability. That Pastor eventually left his wife.
Our Scout Troop did some heavy partying. Later I saw why that was permitted.
I was a Boy Scout once -- I remember that day.
Boy Scouts brought on former CIA director and Sec of Defense Bob Gates. Gates pushed through open gays serving. Boy Scouts brought him on to bring homosexuals openly into their organization. I feel sorry for the kids. They are being used as pawns. But I'm not afraid to tell them why I won't buy. My local girl scouts claim their org has nothing to do with these other girl scouts political agenda. But no way to prove they don't!
I've heard Trail Life is a good alternative to the Boy Scouts.
[-1] February 23, 2016 at 2:56pm
The fault lies with mankind in his de-evolution.
[-1] February 23, 2016 at 2:43pm
Homosexuality was considered normal in Sodom and we can see what became of that idea.
 February 5, 2016 at 12:03pm
I am “old school” when it comes to raising children. I learned from my parental units this:
I will feed and cloth you, and guide you to adulthood but I will not give you whatever you want. If you want something other than food and clothes, then get a job to earn the money to buy your item.
You will have nothing in life if you are too lazy to work.
So I was working at 12 years old and was not a burden on my parents or on society.
My Dad told me he wasn't going to buy me a car when I was in High School.
I thanked him for his wisdom when I realized what he did for me at that time.
I worked since I was 10 years old at a horse stable. From morning until night - anything and everything I could do to make money because I didn't want my parents to have to buy things for me (my older sister and brother were very burdensome). I paid my own horse stall rent, feed and other items I needed (my dad would help here and there) but I was NEVER a burden to them my entire life. Working keeps a person busy and out of trouble hence my favorite saying: "Idle Hands Are The Devil's Workshop". We have too many idle hands in this country. Put them all to work and they won't be out robbing and murdering at night - they would be too darn tired!!
I was a late bloomer: I didn't start cleaning boxcars with my Dad until I was 12 1/2. I didn't get paid until after I turned 16 and was given a car to compensate me for the previous 3 1/2 years (every weekend and pretty much the entire summer). Even then, to get cash I had to find another employer.
 January 28, 2016 at 11:53am
Always know what you are walking into. If it does not look right, do not go in.