Not if you talk to a congregant of Buckhead Church. They are quite open and proud of the fact that they are 'gay friendly'. I have talked to quite a few of them and they think it's a positive thing. If it saves one soul, maybe it is.
In 1Corinthians, Paul addressed sexual issue, and really pressed for admonishing Brothers (fellow Christians), but of those visiting the church?
5:12-13 What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside? God will judge those outside. “Expel the wicked person from among you.” (Expel the Christians insisting in sin without repentance, not guests)
Stanley walks a tight line that could only be fully understood with ALL the facts.
Schmig: "not only was the gay couple attending Buckhead, but that they were serving on one of the church's "guest services teams.""
Read the article.
I read it. Thanks for the heads up. Oh... thanks for the years of great comments.
PIG PEn I can't see any answer in the article. First the writer and stanley are friends and he stated "I heard that your church is becoming "gay friendly" whatever that means". First off what person here does not understand that term "gay friendly" . Christian churches should be sinner friendly but I am getting the impression that Stanley's church does not address the homosexual sin. It would be like a prostitute coming to church every week but making "dates" with the attendees . My Pastor clearly teaches that all sinners are welcome but leave the world behind .
 April 21, 2015 at 11:24am
Well, if you actually knew Andy Stanley or knew about him, you’d know that he drives a 5 year old car, takes a rather meager salary and donates all of the money from his books (which are priced very cheap to begin with) back to his church. You may disagree with what he does or how he goes about it, but he’s anything but a “whore”. I have personally heard the man preach that homosexuality goes against God’s teaching, but perhaps if you’re so concerned with the message being diluted and the affront it represents to the Almighty, you might want to work on the plank in your own eye and put the stone down. Remember, you and I will both need to give an account for every idle word we speak (Matt. 12:36). Also, you might read your Bible and see the Apostle Paul did not chastise the Athenians for their idols, instead he use them to make inroads to spread the Gospel, which is what I think Andy is trying to do.
Pig I have read the Bible. But I also read the article Gonz had posted. I may be wrong to judge so harshly, but my question still has not been answered. And by the reasoning would you want crack heads doing crack in the pews?
About the plank, I do not own a church. I have other issues but one is not being hypocritical.
God bless you and I will pray about what you posted, maybe I'm wrong.
 April 21, 2015 at 11:16am
So I hear this a lot that Christ did not teach hate, and He didn’t, but he also didn’t teach intellectual tolerance either. Truth by its very nature is absolute. Something cannot both be the truth and a lie at the same time in the same context, despite what many professors may teach today. I think perhaps you’re working with a faulty definition of hate, which means to feel intense or passionate dislike towards something. Believing that something goes against God’s teaching and is therefore sin, does not mean that you hate the individual carrying out the act.
I do not believe that homosexuality is a good thing, but that does not mean I hate gay people. You probably don’t agree with many of the things most of the people in your life do or say, but that does not mean there is a causal relationship towards hate. Jesus taught that He was the truth, in fact he said that, “Everyone who loves truth listens to My voice.” There are not different versions of the truth, truth is absolute. I believe Jesus died and raised himself from the dead. He said that homosexuality was bad, so I accept Him at His word. He also said, love those who hate you, pray for those who persecute you and so I do, or at least try to. Jesus did not teach us to hate someone in return, but He also didn’t teach us to compromise ourselves or His truth in the process.
Also, the 10% of the population being gay thing is a red-herring not math. The study you reference used prison inmates as its subjects.
 March 1, 2015 at 4:58pm
While I would support Walker, and he’d be a lot better than Romney, this is why I’m concerned. His abortion credentials as well as his credentials on immigration are pretty weak, combine that with the fact that he’s a career politician and I rank him as the 4th best candidate behind Cruz, Paul and Carson.
 February 22, 2015 at 12:16am
Some murderers are unrepentant, others just hide it, either way it’s murder and we’ve allowed genocide to occur in these United States.
why would you allow genocide? that's pathetic. if i was wrong like you and really believed, as you claim, that abortion is genocide... i wouldn't sit back and watch like a spineless shill. How's that working for you? you sleep at night letting genocide happen?
February 21, 2015 at 6:55pm
While I agree with the sentiment, I believe you are in serious error to lump Joyce Meyer in there. While I may not agree with everything she teaches, her teaching in no way treats the Bible like a self help book (even though God intended for us to find answers on how to live better in it). Furthermore, it is wrong to attack brothers and sisters in Christ, debate their ideas, rebuke their actions, but if you feel fit to judge them I’ve got a pool I’d like to see you walk across. In the end Jesus loves you and is the only path to redemption, the rest pals in comparison to these truths.
Unfortunately Meyers qualifies as a false teacher. She not only has published that Jesus paid for our sins by going to hell for us also, but goes on to also teach: “There is no hope of anyone going to heaven unless they believe this truth I am presenting. You cannot go to heaven unless you believe with all your heart that Jesus took your place in hell.” Jesus did not pay for our sin in hell. The Bible is extremely clear that it was on the cross where our debt was paid, it was on the cross where the blood of Jesus was shed and accepted as a ransom for us – the cross was the place, the only place where our atonement was brought.
 February 12, 2015 at 5:26pm
Your reading comprehension would suggest you went to public school. What the author is advocating for is protecting children from the indoctrination found in public schools and how our culture could be changed through home-schooling. The not so subtle suggestion here is that we all should work hard to wrestle power from the Federal Leviathan. As someone who home schools their kids, I can say most home school parents teach evolution alongside creationism. We teach our kids about communism and socialism along with anarchy and libertarian-ism. With that being said, we do teach our kids to think what we think in certain areas, it’s called parenting and when we’re done our children are released into the wild to make their own decisions and decide if we were right or wrong. But maybe it’s indoctrination that has taught my 8 year old to write computer code and my 6 year old to read at an 8th grade level. You liberals are free to call it what you like, but I just call it effective.
January 31, 2015 at 7:24pm
How can you read this and arrive at that conclusion? Jesus loves the little Muslims, they are precious in His sight. God tarries only so that more may be converted, including Muslims. I know I struggle with this too, but we must forgive those who persecute us… Even Muslims.
 January 28, 2015 at 12:10pm
The way I understand it, if the man had been fired simply for being a Christian that would be persecution because persecution by definition is: hostility or ill-treatment because of one’s religion. This man faced ill-treatment not because of his religion, but because he rocked the boat. He could have made the same comment, while removing any Christian overtones and he’d have been just as fired. While this may seem like semantics, it’s more a case of stupid is as stupid does. The man could have taken a stand against the policy in a myriad of ways that weren’t nearly as inflammatory. Still, he worked for Ford. Ford was his boss, you may have to tell your boss they’re wrong from time to time, but you should be careful about how you do it. Or to put it another way “A gentle word turns away wrath, but a harsh word stirs up anger.” (Proverbs 15:1)
 January 28, 2015 at 11:47am
Honestly, do you think you’re changing anyone’s mind by comparing them to racists? While I would take umbrage with the comment he made from a theological perspective as well as a practical one, equating someone who thinks that homosexuality is immoral with someone else who believes that other people are inferior or deserve to die because of the color of their skin seems preposterous and diminishes the ugliness of racism. You might now know this, but is was largely Christians that led the charge to end slavery in the United States and it was largely Christians like Wilbur Wilberforce that led the charge to end slavery in the UK. Just because we disagree about homosexuality and don’t particularly care for being force fed the belief that homosexuality is something we should accept and celebrate, does not make us bigots and does not mean that we persecute gays. If you’d like to see persecution of gay people, take a look at what ISIS does to them.
Also, Jesus loves you, He really does and He loves gay people too. His commandments aren’t to oppress us, they’re there to make our lives better.
 January 28, 2015 at 11:26am
Let’s not reduce ourselves to hyperbole, shall we? While Christians may face unfair and inflammatory criticism, as well as having to adhere to a different set of standards, we are not persecuted. To claim persecution is to diminish, what our brothers and Sisters in Syria, Iraq and throughout Africa and China must endure. Furthermore, I fully support Ford’s right to fire him, just as I support my right to not buy a Ford, or another company’s right to fire someone for discussing their homosexuality at work. It’s their company, they should be able to do what they want with it without fear of gubb’ment intervention, but as Christians we should spend more time expressing our joy that Christ has triumphed over death, instead of focusing on these light and momentary troubles. Jesus din’t go to the Tax Collectors and chastise them for being tax collectors, he saved his contempt for the Pharisees, we seem to have a lot of Pharisees here in the U.S.
P.S. If you’re gay, Jesus loves you…also, if you’re not gay, Jesus loves you.
Of course this is Christian persecution. One does not have to be murdered to be persecuted. Having your livelihood taken away and your reputation destroyed for a Christian faith based opinion is indeed persecution. If you think the enemies of Christ will stop with this soft persecution you are dead wrong.
There are degrees to persecution just like everything else. Just because one is worse does not invalidate the other. For all you people who support Ford for firing a man simply for having a moral opinion I expect you to also support any company who fires someone for supporting LGBT or refuses to bake cakes for the perverts.
because of one's religion. This man faced ill-treatment not because of his religion, but because he rocked the boat. He could have made the same comment, while removing any Christian overtones and he'd have been just as fired. While this may seem like semantics, it's more a case of stupid is as stupid does. The man could have taken a stand against the policy in a myriad of ways that weren't nearly as inflammatory. Still, he worked for Ford. Ford was his boss, you may have to tell your boss they're wrong from time to time, but you should be careful about how you do it. Or to put it another way "A gentle word turns away wrath, but a harsh word stirs up anger." (Proverbs 15:1)
The way I understand it, if the man had been fired simply for being a Christian that would be persecution because persecution by definition is: hostility or ill-treatment
The article does not say this, but corporations do have programs where the employee is donating a portion of his/her salary to charities of the company's choosing. This would also be wrong if this guy felt his money was supporting a behavior that goes against his beliefs.
Sorta like my tax money, dont like what government is spending it on. It does not make it immoral though.
 November 10, 2014 at 3:54pm
Apologetics (from Greek ἀπολογία, “speaking in defense”) is the discipline of defending a position (often religious) through the systematic use of information.
November 4, 2014 at 5:35pm
Until that day comes the only thing parents can do is home school their children. Why constantly fight to have your children “un-learn” what they learned in school that day or give schools this kind of power. Schools get money based on cheeks in seats, when I pulled my kids out, their tune changed. Now I don’t have to worry about tests on the Pillars of Islam, my son talking about guns like little boys are supposed to do. Is it more work, yes, but my kids are getting a BETTER education and spending less time doing it.
November 21, 2012 at 9:14am
One big difference, between the woman at the well and modern day people: HE was Jesus, and you’re not. He knew the woman’s sins without her telling Him. Even still, Jesus often met with prostitutes, tax collectors (who were pretty unscrupulous) and even Pharisees (religious leaders who he reserved his harshest rebukes for). The Bible doesn’t detail him rebuking each of them, so it stands to reason he probably didn’t on every occasion.
Instead, look at how Paul treated the people of Athens (Acts 17:22-31) who worshiped idols and even had an idol dedicated to “an unknown god.” He was kind and understanding, he even complemented them on being very religious. While Christians should stand against sin, especially in the church, we should stand against sin in our own lives and remember the greatest commandment is to love God and the second is to love our neighbor, not judge and condemn them.
November 21, 2012 at 8:51am
If you are reading this and you are not a Christian, please understand that Pat Robertson does not speak for all Christians, or even most Christians. The Bible talks a lot about the Jewish religious leaders in the time of Christ known as Pharisees, unfortunately, Pat Robertson seems to have missed these large sections of the Bible because he is in fact a neo-Pharisee who is more interested in misrepresenting Christians and more importantly Christ, in order to maintain some level of notoriety and power.
While we believe that Atheists, and all people who do not know Christ, have a void in there life that can only be filled by Christ, it does not necessarily mean that they are miserable. Furthermore, Jesus does not hate gay people or anyone else for that matter.
That being said, we only wish to be afforded the same religious freedom that other groups are afforded in our celebration of Christmas.