“All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside”
Hmmm. Seems like a pretty clear-cut case. Perhaps you don’t know what you are talking about.
And actually, the “fellow citizens” I was talking about was the babies being born in the United States. They are born citizens, and they do not deserve to be treated as second class. I pity you if your idea of “presidential” includes calling babies derogatory names.
August 21, 2015 at 11:46am
Really? Presidential? Willing to denigrate and insult his fellow citizens to score petty political points?
Not only is this big guy stooping to insulting babies, but he’s attacking born American citizens as less than American. The law is clear on this, and birthright citizenship has a long and proud history, which includes the destruction of slavery and race-based “second class” citizenship.
August 14, 2015 at 1:14pm
“If you go to the White House and demand that Obama cook you lunch because you are a taxpayer and you pay for his house and his salary, does that mean he’s required to cook you lunch, just because you have money?”
That hypothetical is so absurd that it’s hardly worth commenting on. When you were writing this, did you actually think you were making a relevant point? The White House is not a restaurant, and the President does not provide this service to the public.
“We live in a Free Society. And in a Free Society, you can tell anybody you want to get out of your business, for no reason at all.”
You have an odd idea of how the law works. Let me explain. When you open a place of public accommodation like a restaurant or bakery, you are required to have a business license. This license means that you have to follow all proper laws, regulations and requirements. These include anti-discrimination laws, as were applied in this case.
So, you have no idea what you are talking about. Your silly, simplistic and childish assumptions about what a business can do in a “free” society are wrong.
August 14, 2015 at 1:01pm
“All I’m suggesting is that we use the same weapon that they use: Lawfare. ”
First of all, “they” are not using any kind of weapon. What percentage of gay folks do you think are suing people for discrimination? How representative do you think this group is?
Second of all, if anyone is using “lawfare,” it’s you folks. For decades you used laws to ban same sex marriage–to deliberately impede someone’s pursuit of happiness–just because you don’t like it.
August 14, 2015 at 9:30am
“Zero need to be a fascist and force people to be involved in something they want no part of.”
Fascist? Like all those “fascist” black folks that insisted on being served at white lunch counters? What fascists!
 August 14, 2015 at 9:29am
Nonsense and you know it, but don’t let that stop you.
August 14, 2015 at 9:29am
I won’t be needing any wedding cakes Avenger. I’m a happily married man. I suspect you won’t be needing one either, unless some woman with extremely low standards just happens to wander into your parent’s basement.
 August 14, 2015 at 9:27am
We are a nation of laws, including non-discrimination laws. You don’t just get to choose which laws you follow based on your religious belief.
August 14, 2015 at 9:26am
Fortunately, only the laws of men apply here, so we don’t really have to care what your God says (or what you think he says).
And it’s the height of irony that you accuse me of a straw man argument, and then imply that consensual sex between homosexual adults is somehow comparable to lying, murdering and stealing.
 August 14, 2015 at 8:50am
requiring a place of public accommodation to serve a member of the public is not slavery. I suspect that you have no idea what slavery actually is, or you wouldn’t make such ignorant comments.
August 14, 2015 at 8:48am
Then you’d have to prove that they are unconstitutional. You missed that important step.
[-2] August 13, 2015 at 6:25pm
Haha. So, there is a penalty to bringing up relevant historical and legal precedents?
 August 13, 2015 at 6:24pm
I use a variety of names? That’s news to me buddy. Don’t let actual facts get in your way.
 August 13, 2015 at 6:23pm
My concern is that you are more annoyed with my obvious factual statement then the brainless, empty, fact-free drivel spouted by the folks that you apparently agree with.
[-8] August 13, 2015 at 4:59pm
Are you saying that antidiscrimination laws are unconstitutional?
 August 13, 2015 at 4:57pm
Ummm… you do know that there are other laws than the First Amendment… right?
[-1] August 13, 2015 at 4:56pm
Yeah, and how could segregation have possibly hurt black people! Yeah!
Quit being a racist idiot, Pencilman. It is extraordinarily disrespectful for you to keep bringing up a person's skin color as if it has anything at all to do with choosing to be gay.
ALL black people, from the beginning of time, have always been born black. Every single one of them. Not a single black person ever used to be white, but then decided they wanted to be black (well, except for that one chick, but she's not actually black, so she doesn't count). No scientific studies pending on the subject, no question about it.... blackness absolutely is genetic. It is also not a sin to be a black person.
Choosing to act on homosexual desires, on the other hand, absolutely IS a choice, and IS a sin.
You need to stop trying to compare the two, because one has NOTHING to do with the other.
 August 13, 2015 at 4:55pm
Such hatred. Such bitterness. It must be sad to be as small and nasty as you.
 August 13, 2015 at 4:54pm
Yeah, I wonder how their cake business will go once they start forcing that inscription on EVERY cake. I bet couples of all stripes will love that.