I think that you’re just going to confuse them when you call them a “lair.”
And how often do you get accused of literally owning slaves?
April 9, 2015 at 11:31am
Sure, black teachers should be discipline or fired if they express racist or antisemitic sentiments. That doesn’t mean that a teacher can’t express some approval of some things that a figure says, but not approve of others. That would be a like saying that a teacher can’t say anything positive about slaveholders like George Washington.
April 8, 2015 at 10:10am
Funny how your “translation” just happens to reinforce your paranoid fantasy.
April 8, 2015 at 10:10am
Ha. Sure, go ahead and try to change the issue. The issue is the false nature of the assertions. Simple as that.
April 8, 2015 at 10:09am
“Its a judgement call. I feel that the school made a wrong choice in firing him for something too simple. Now they have one less coach and have to spend money to find a new one and train him/her (if they can even get one with the press on them now)”
But isn’t the risk much greater in keeping him? As I asked elsewhere on this board (and no one has tried to answer), How could this coach retain his authority over any Muslim students after outright expressing hostility towards them? The obvious point is that he opens up the school to lawsuits from students who might claim discrimination with pretty solid evidence.
April 7, 2015 at 5:17pm
Since our political system is based on open disagreement and debate, it is fully acceptable to debate political issues. It is not smear any religious group, be they Muslim or Christian, with vicious and bigoted accusations of terrorism, etc. How is that a difficult concept to understand?
April 7, 2015 at 5:15pm
Since you’re “go to” move is to call me silly names, I’m going to guess that you are far beyond the possibility of enlightenment.
[-1] April 7, 2015 at 5:13pm
“Now, “woven into the fabric” is a slang term that has definite meaning in our culture. Can you really argue then that this is a true statement from Obama? Please, enlighten me.”
Actually, it’s not slang. It’s an idiom. And what threshold are you expecting for something to be “woven into the fabric” of this country? Extending the metaphor, any single thread is “woven into the fabric.” Now, considering the presence of Muslim African in North America since colonial days, considering Jefferson’s familiarity with the Koran, and considering that Morocco was the first country to officially recognize the United States as an independent country, I’d say that this constitutes more than one “thread” within the “fabric.”
So again–when you claim that the President is lying, you are quibbling about how many metaphorical threads exist in the metaphorical fabric of the US.
When I contest the points in the open letter, I am proving that the writer said “no” when the actual answer is “yes.” Do you see the difference?
[-1] April 7, 2015 at 5:07pm
Regarding the FAU student, there is no actual evidence that the student was suspended for not stepping on the piece of paper. In fact, that would be entirely against the point of the exercise, and against the point the professor was trying to make, so that seems incredibly unlikely.
And on your point, anyone can study any number of religions they like, and they are free to think that other religions are wrong. However, there is a difference between saying “I do not agree with the Pope’s divine authority” and saying “Catholics are evil terrorists who are ruining this country.” The open letter that the coach reposted was much more of the latter than the former.
Now, if you were an educator and posted this kind of thing, could you be expected to treat Catholic students fairly, and do you think that those students could view you as a responsible authority figure?
[-2] April 7, 2015 at 4:53pm
“Name one Muslim that fought in the Revolutionary War.”
Bampett Muhammed, who fought in Virginia. Also, Joseph Benhaley, a slave who fought alongside his master in South Carolina.
“If you’re so up in arms about that being a blatant falsehood, then why do you ignore the statement from Obama saying that Islam has been woven into the fabric of our country since its founding? That statement is clearly further from the actual truth than what Mr. Lees wrote.”
No. Mr. Lees made claims that Muslims did not do things when they actually did. He said “no” when the actual answer was “yes.” That is as far as from the actual truth as you can get. The President, on the other hand, made a qualitative statement that you can debate by degree, but can’t really disprove. Simple as that.
[-1] April 7, 2015 at 1:27pm
Wow. I get a “thumbs down” for stating an obvious fact. I suppose you Blazers aren’t big fans of the truth. But I guess I already know that.
[-2] April 7, 2015 at 1:26pm
“the author of the letter was evoking the NATION of Islam and/or Muslims. Their nation has never been an ally of America or Britain.”
Huh? What “nation” are you talking about? This is just nonsensical. Funny how you have to twist these ideas so far out of common sense to somehow make them conform to your beliefs.
 April 7, 2015 at 1:23pm
“PP you like to use the word bigot for people who don’t agree with your leftist world view, why is that?”
No, I use the word “bigot” to indicate someone who repeats known falsehoods as a way a defaming a racial or religious group. How is that so hard for you to understand.
And when did you folks decide that showing respect for other citizens and their religions is an element of leftism? I guess that would make me a leftist in that case…
[-2] April 7, 2015 at 1:21pm
Of course, no teacher should be spouting anti-Christian sentiments, but speaking out against a religion is fundamentally different from speaking out against a political stance. Our political system is built on open disagreement on political issues, while most would agree that blatant attacks on religions should not be a common feature of public discourse.
[-1] April 7, 2015 at 1:17pm
Sure, you are right. Hate speech against Christians must be taken seriously, just as hate speech against Muslims. Did you expect me to disagree?
Now, regarding your example, there are ample grounds to argue that Professor Poole’s exercise had nothing to do with “hate speech.” He expressed no anti-Christian sentiments, and the point of the exercise was, in fact, NOT to step on the piece of paper. I don’t see how this would, in any way, be seen as any kind of opposition to Christianity or to Christian doctrine. it certainly wouldn’t be making the case, unlike the coach’s reposting, that Muslims in America are all guilty of anti-American violence and terrorism. https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2013/03/28/professor-whose-exercise-caused-stomp-jesus-controversy
[-2] April 7, 2015 at 12:14pm
I’ve posted on the inaccuracies of the letter several times on this board. Go check it out, and then let me know if I’ve said anything inaccurate.
“Funny how you define “TRUTH” as your perception of what should be “politically correct” to say.”
No, that’s not how I define truth. I define it as something that actually happened. And that’s the difference between you and I–I won’t repeat something if I know it’s untrue. You folks regurgitating the content of this letter obviously don’t feel the same way.
[-1] April 7, 2015 at 12:10pm
“The Muslims on the other hand stayed aligned with Hitler and his goon squad until the end and in some cases beyond.”
Millions of Muslims fought for the Allies, particularly Northern African Muslims fighting for the French and South Asian Muslims for the British. Again, you are outright lying.
 April 7, 2015 at 12:06pm
It’s not actually 100% factual. Your insistence that it is just betrays your ignorance and bigotry.
[-3] April 7, 2015 at 12:06pm
Everyone in the US is free to disagree on political issues, but attacking groups of people is an entirely different thing. Isn’t that clear?
[-3] April 7, 2015 at 12:05pm
So, you are the principal of a school that includes Muslims students. One of your teachers openly expresses anti-Muslim sentiments. How exactly would you handle it?