Case law has destroyed any standing of commonsense. This crime, on the average, only stays in jail two years. The value our watered down ‘Social (ism) Justice system that actually aids criminals.
This is why state rights are the key to putting Capital Punishment firmly back in place…but once again, with the perversion/agendas of many federal judges (another reason for term limits) this value is put back on our streets in a matter of a few years, after tax payers pay for their food, upkeep, medical, dental, conjugal & even sex change operations, just to name a few common uses of tax dollars now.
Capital Punishment has to be re-established in the crimes of no rehabilitatable value (Murder, rape, molestation, pedophilia, kidnapping & terrorism (real terrorists). This also would take care of laws & Constitutions that come from other nations, trying to infiltrate their value of life, for example Sharia Law that allows murder, rape, molestation, pedophilia, kidnapping & terrorism.
The day of conviction in these crimes, there should be no wiggle room in day of conviction death sentences. And the most efficient & most visual stand to show those here & those coming here we will not tolerate our children harmed, our women sexually abused or any other crime they use to get away with…but that will take strong leadership, strong morality & commonsense to come back into this nation…& that will only happen if we get back to a morality of shame, restitution & real discipline.
I am 1000% for capital punishment but have reservations about rape, pedophilia, etc. If a slime knows that he will get the DP for rape or pedophilia, there is no incentive to leave his victims alive. To me, give them life if they don't otherwise harm the victim. If they harm the victim in any other way, they get the death penalty...and I don't mean by lethal injection or nitrogen. To me, it should be hanging..with wire.
 April 17, 2015 at 2:18pm
The problem is the lies no longer are viable. He has proven you can’t take his word as truth. No honest person can say he is a man of integrity, because his words and actions barely match up…especially his claim to be a ‘Christian’ while mocking the Word of God.
And the majority of the people of this country have twice voted Barack Obama into office. He was elected President of the United States, not pastor of a church. Why do you hate the Constitution?
 April 17, 2015 at 12:59pm
We get so wrapped up in what someone wears, we miss the whole reason for church. The foundation where the Word of God is supposed to be taught.
I don’t know anything about this church, but the church I go to the pastor wears jeans & a shirt. He’s not there to impress with fine clothes or showing off a Rolex. The foundation is simply God’s Word.
In fact his sermons are more of a Bible study. That being he goes by the chapters of the Bible, & usually, each Sunday, that means only a chapter or two.
The depth the Bible teaches, comes to us at different levels. Some, just beginning, will only go to hear the pastor, & that’s fine, but Jesus wants us the ‘feed’ on the Word of God. To ‘seek’, to ‘ask’, to ‘knock’. All of these requiring action on our part.
Church is really a hospital for sinners. We need the antidote to our fleshly values, thoughts & actions. We need to know what is of God & what simply isn’t.
The hard part is many won’t read the Word of God, because they believe their gonna get yelled at…because lets face it, when we do wrong in our lives, & we know we did wrong, how many of us couldn’t wait tell dad got home to discipline our actions.
“For ALL have fallen short of God”. That’s not just a catch phrase, it’s reality, & that means we are ALL sinners, & that ALL MOST ALL sin can be forgiven. (unforgivable sin Mark 3:22-30 & Matthew 12:31-32; calling the precious & Holy Spirit of God, the unclean spirit of Satan).
I like what you're saying RAMJR, but I would have to contend that when I read God's Word I never feel like I'm being "yelled at." What I see is an outpouring of grace that makes me want to live by God's values rather than the ones that focus on myself.
Liked the "church is a hospital for sinners" remark.
The Bible makes it clear that there is One Lord, One Faith, One Baptism. While reading the Bible is very beneficial to all, not ever Church is going to provide the same value.
So glad I don't subscribe to a cult whose aim is to make me feel sick.
I agree that there can be too much emphasis on appearance, but there's something to be said sbout caring what you look like and how it can often be a reflection of what's going on inside. It's not always true, I'll grant you that, but it often is. Looking like a bum and trashy can often mean that's what's going on in your head.
@ram- i get the intention of what your are saying but you are wrong about any church that claims 503c (3) status. It is in direct contradiction to the very words of Jesus Christ.
That status makes you a church of the state.
Sounds like someone has been brainwashed. Ditch the fake religion, fool. No one has proven God's existence.
you sound like a Calvary Chapel man.
It is interesting to note that the modern evangelical movement began with Jesus Freaks of the late 1960's who smoke joints during their bible studies.
What you say is all good and well, but concerning these two - I just read the article and I can NOT tell you which one is supposed to be the atheist and which one the pastor. To many "pastors" are trying to win the world by becoming the world. Used to be the appearance of holiness but lacking the power thereof. Now its not even that! The fact is that real Christianity demonstrates itself with POWER! Yahshua said we were to "cleanse lepers, heal the sick and raise the dead" You demonstrate that and atheists won't be atheists anymore. Signs and Wonders are to prove that the God of Elijah - He is God!.
People are always saying that Yahshua hung out with sinners. NO, sinners hung out with HIM! Big difference. He radiated something that drew people to him, drew the lost, sinners, tax collectors, prostitutes, etc. He was a rabbi, a teacher. He did not change his message to suit the crowd or to win converts. Yes the church should be a hospital for sinners - but if there is not holiness - there is no power - HE is the same yesterday, today and forever. Yes we live under grace. But as Paul said should we sin more that grace may abound more and he warned "God Forbid."
True, we get wrapped up in what someone wears, which is exactly what attracts many young people to today's "hip" pastors. They conform to the fashions of the day, from jeans to unbuttoned shirts, to cute hats to worn out Nikes etc. whatever it takes to get the kids' attention. The problem I have with that is Jesus did not use gimmicks to attract people, young or old. He used love, compassion, sacrifice....He manifested the attributes of His heavenly Father. Isaiah 53:2 says no one was attracted to Him because of His outward appearance. Today's hip churches are full of compromise and worldliness. The Bible clearly teaches that believers will be separate from the world, yet many of today's younger pastors try too hard to be cool, and hip in an effort to draw youth into the church. Those are gimmicks and if I were a young person looking for Jesus I would be offended by it....I would feel like I was being "lured' into the church. I wouldn't trust anyone who would stoop to the world's antics to reach me. When I was younger and in trouble I needed friendship, understanding, love and acceptance. I found it from people who were genuine, people who I realized love me like Jesus loves me. No gimmicks required. Just love.
At the end of the week with all the struggles with sin the Emergency Room for triage for sinners is where I need to be.
If this pastor can reach the lost in the manner he has embraced, then good for him. And, for an atheist to have commentary about something he does not believe is laughable at the least and disingenuous at most. Who cares what any atheist has to say about Christianity?
"Church is a hospital for sinners".
Well put! It sounds like you go to a great church. When you find one like that it is truly amazing. You can feel the presence of God. Some of these churches are small, some large, but regardless of size the message and God's work in the church are what matters.
Somebody at your Sunday church should read the 4th Commandment... you know, the one about Remember the Sabbath, to keep it Holy.
Biblically there is no such thing as "church". It was created by Catholics. Read your Bible for yourself for a change. Jesus never went to church, nor did the apostles. They only gathered in Synagogues or public places...
 April 17, 2015 at 12:12pm
If we had a true Constitutional Republic and ‘informed electorate’, we’d already have term limits on those in Congress, as well as our courts.
We’d have a standing firm value of Capital Punishment, which put a foundation of shame, restitution and discipline that sent a clear message to those inside America and coming here. Murderers, rapists, molesters, pedophiles, kidnappers and terrorists that are convicted would have ONLY day of conviction death sentences with simple firing squads.
We would also make sure no laws or Constitution, other than America’s foundation was allowed..and under the ‘Oath of Citizenship’ that is just commonsense we no longer remember or abide by under taking away Equal Justice…and substituting instead ‘Social (ism) Justice’ and ‘Political Correctness’ that has infiltrated our courts, schools/education & even political system.
I would also put on the firing squads, mandatory equal amount sexes for the executions in all Capital Punishment cases, for the reason that those of radical Islamic belief hold that being killed by a woman (their defining as ‘vessel for expansion of radical Islam, a tool of sexual desires ages, under Sharia Law as young as 5 years old, and having no rights, just cattle in worth), would not martyr them to heaven, but send them to hell. Think about all the radicals living here that would leave, if we placed that foundation back in place…but it won’t happen unless we force it back in place, state by state.
The reason I would include women in all firing squads is because Islamic belief stands, if a woman kills a Muslim, they do not go to heaven…so they are not martyred. In fact, in the Middle East, the Islamic State ran from the confrontation of women who took up arms against them, because of their belief. The radical Islamic’s, inside America, would face that death…not the recruiting network many jails/prisons are today for murderers, rapists, molesters, pedophiles, kidnappers…the majority that spend only a few years in jail…then released on a nation that ignorantly aids this value & this upbringing.
It’s kind of like what I saw in a show I watch about a professional fisherman that travels to many nation to expose fish who attack & harm.
The latest turned out to be because fishermen threw out their nets & only kept the fish they could sell & eat. They tossed back in the Puffer Fish, which created more Puffer Fish that eventually attacked the fishermen & the children that played in that river. They created that problem, since when they had these fish they could have just killed them, so they could not increase & harm their children…but their was no personal gain in taking that extra step of protection…so now they got bigger, became more and it could have been eliminated, no threat, no harm, if they had just taken that extra step of protection.
We allow this. We now see this value is taught, daily, in many schools. In fact, some schools employ pedophiles.
April 17, 2015 at 11:40am
That ‘sensor’ is commonsense.
The sad fact is, our courts system, while the best in the world, is still VERY corrupt & giving to aiding criminal actions & behaviors. The average pedophile & rapist, spend two years in a prison/jail. That’s not even close to justice.
I won’t go into the Biblical guidance of Capital Punishment, because that guidance was so firm that death was even called for children disobeying their parents (parents that were in obedience to God). In fact the covenant God had with the Ten Commandments & over 600 laws within them, was with the children of Israel. The Mosaic Covenant.
However, crimes that cannot be rehabilitated or reversed from fleshly perversions, are called for from God, even today. These crimes that demand death upon conviction are murder, rape, molestation, pedophilia, kidnapping & terrorism. And it is called for to be swift in shame, to the person, action & teaching the younger generations what will happen if they take these actions; restitution, the value of both their flesh (hard labor) & belongings (worth) to be given to those they harmed or the family left behind from the crimes they committed, to do with as they want…& then their death, the day of their conviction.
In what you describe, child brides, this allowing comes through Sharia Law…which would not stand under laws enforced in America, the ONLY LAWS that should stand in those allowed to live here.
I would also take away the value of martyr, with firing squads with women.
 April 17, 2015 at 11:08am
I remember, many moons ago, standing in line to see the beginning of this. Though I do not hold the same value of movies, sports and other entertainment that use to hold my heart, I will one day see this…but it won’t be any time soon.
I have not gone to see any movie I wanted to see in years. I have, however, investigated movies my little niece and nephews wanted to see, and as long as it passed the non-agenda & propaganda foundation, I took them. So about half the movies they wanted to see, I would not take them.
I hope this movie does not go in that direction (agendas/Global Warming/Racism/Social Justice/etc, but I’ll wait to see what others willing to pay 10-20 dollars per person to stand in line for hours/days to be able to say, “I was one of the first”…which use to be high on my list of accomplishments (which in hindsight wasn’t).
 April 17, 2015 at 10:00am
More than 34,000 black churches from 15 denominations, representing 15.7 million African Americans, have pulled away from the Presbyterian Church (alone) because of its newly declared endorsement & acceptance of same-sex “marriage” through a recent vote.
Many other denominations are going through the same split.
I found myself in an apostate church, because of the acceptance that infiltrated the church. Satan uses ignorance & the value of false shame, not to allow & hold firm in the teaching of the Holy Bible, & instead the value of ‘Social Justice’ that becomes a political value more than spiritual foundation to spread God’s Word…& instead in the values to replace God with human ignorance, arrogance & immoralities.
The church I went to, was split in two…& evil took it to the point members within that church, the majority, are the tares Jesus warned us were coming.
Another religious organization is looking to take it over, because half the members have now left, & what is left is the very old that have met, almost their whole life for Sunday School…don’t even go to church services…& are trying to figure out where they are going to go when the inevitable happens.
I know this, because my mom goes there, & she has done almost everything to get me to go back. I will not.
The church I go to now openly, every Sunday, talks about the accepted immoralities not of God. Homosexuality, fornication (sex before marriage), abortion, adultery, cheating, stealing to name a few.
 April 17, 2015 at 12:03am
President Calvin Coolidge, was one of the best. Not for the reason of getting government involved, but because he allowed commonsense/personal responsibility to be the guiding force, within aspects, government & private citizens.
At one point he was confronted by states asking for federal money to help with the natural disasters they were dealing with…& he said no. The government protects/defends this country, & neighbors were to help neighbors state to state. In fact, an even bigger deficit from previous administration left him with a bigger depression than what we call the Great Depression…& it ended because commonsense & personal responsibility was firmly in place.
There was no bailouts, entitlements, lobbyists. The Constitution was enforced, & those who didn’t enforce it, especially judges, were tossed out of their position. Fear of lying, cheating, stealing was met with 100% shame, 100% restitution & 100% discipline that cost ONLY the criminals. Even time for crimes for jail & prison, were paid for by their family members & the sweat equity that made incarceration hell on earth, so you never wanted to go back, & Capital Punishment crimes, were swift with executions, as well as attorneys that tried to circumvent justice. Prisoners actually earned tokens for their time in prison.
This use to be something, commonsense would have the whole neighborhood coming together…but with case law, outrageous regulations & restrictions, cops have to arrest men like this.
Coolidge also cut taxes and the size of the Federal Gov by 50%, following a huge start of a depression (worse that that which started the so called great depression). Result - short depression and the roaring 20s.
Without FDR, there most likely would not have been such a long lasting great depression in the USA.
Small Fed Gov is common sense.
April 16, 2015 at 11:40pm
 April 16, 2015 at 1:31pm
Excellent point ionesco. But your thinking in terms of ‘political Party’. I’m thinking in terms of corruption, and BOTH PARTIES have a huge Progressive, if not more perverse, base. I’m fine with those Republicans to have the same fate as almost ALL the Democrats in Congress. And that’s not because of their Party…it’s because of what they do and don’t do, their theft through tactics and agendas that have nothing to do with rights, freedoms, laws or our Constitution. And the many formats of fraud they aid, both Parties, in Global Warming, entitlements, ‘Social Justice’, ‘Political Correctness’, perversity of changing God given foundation of marriage, formats of taxes, regulations, restrictions and rules and the destroying of our natural commodities that actually build businesses, employment and American freedoms from countries that hate us.
 April 16, 2015 at 12:29pm
Read these words, the oath of covenant to this nation, & think about how many judges, attorneys, lawyers, celebrities, businesses, politicians, organizations & so many living off entitlements, claiming rights & ‘freedoms’ that have nothing to do with their sworn oath to protect/defend America.
“I hereby declare, on oath, that I absolutely and entirely renounce and abjure all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state, or sovereignty, of whom or which I have heretofore been a subject or citizen; that I will support and defend the Constitution and laws of the United States of America against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I will bear arms on behalf of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform noncombatant service in the Armed Forces of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform work of national importance under civilian direction when required by the law; and that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; so help me God.”
Just look at Congress, House & Senate, & you loose almost HALF in what they have lied about, stood for & against.
Now take the push for illegals, & even before that the many formats & words used to bypass national security.
Refugee status has allowed those to come here and bring their laws, over America’s. MILLIONS came here that way, & why Sharia Law is inside America, even our courts.
Actually you "loose" MORE than half. Remember, Republicans control both chambers.
Excellent point ionesco. But your thinking in terms of 'political Party'. I'm thinking in terms of corruption, and BOTH PARTIES have a huge Progressive, if not more perverse, base. I'm fine with those Republicans to have the same fate as almost ALL the Democrats in Congress. And that's not because of their Party...it's because of what they do and don't do, their theft through tactics and agendas that have nothing to do with rights, freedoms, laws or our Constitution. And the many formats of fraud they aid, both Parties, in Global Warming, entitlements, 'Social Justice', 'Political Correctness', perversity of changing God given foundation of marriage, formats of taxes, regulations, restrictions and rules and the destroying of our natural commodities that actually build businesses, employment and American freedoms from countries that hate us.
 April 16, 2015 at 12:18pm
The fraud of being able to ‘relate’ to ordinary legal Americans, as well as push for illegals to be given our rights so they create a voting block of new ignorance, is all this is about…but it just doesn’t work.
The sad fact is, Obama is a great liar. He’s able to make so many of us forget what he said, where he stands & redefine words, keep telling a lie over & over…until it become truth.
With the many ways of finding truth, through the internet, videos posted, interviews we can find years ago, nothing is hidden…& nothing will remain hidden, so all they can do is put on a smile & try to remember what they really believe…Sorry, what they ‘believe’ because it’s what you believe.
So what would happen if what we believed was those that took the Oath of Citizenship, & violated that oath, were stripped of their citizenship…since they don’t abide by our laws, federal & or state, Constitution, federal & or state & the actual words attached to that covenant to this nation?
What if, before ball games, Congress started daily sessions, before the Pledge of Allegiance anywhere, these were the words we held all living in America to abide by, or told to leave…& if not abiding, according to their belief, sent to a nation they hold more dear than here.
Communist/Marxist/Socialist? Russia, China, North Korea, Venezuela, Cuba. Your choice.
Sharia Law? Iran
Pretty simple. Pretty quick, & a quick drain off our society that cheers when American military are attacked.
Read these words, the oath of covenant to this nation, & think about how many judges, attorneys, lawyers, celebrities, businesses, politicians, organizations & so many living off entitlements, claiming rights & 'freedoms' that have nothing to do with their sworn oath to protect/defend America.
"I hereby declare, on oath, that I absolutely and entirely renounce and abjure all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state, or sovereignty, of whom or which I have heretofore been a subject or citizen; that I will support and defend the Constitution and laws of the United States of America against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I will bear arms on behalf of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform noncombatant service in the Armed Forces of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform work of national importance under civilian direction when required by the law; and that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; so help me God."
Just look at Congress, House & Senate, & you loose almost HALF in what they have lied about, stood for & against.
Now take the push for illegals, & even before that the many formats & words used to bypass national security.
Refugee status has allowed those to come here and bring their laws, over America's. MILLIONS came here that way, & why Sharia Law is inside America, even our courts.
 April 16, 2015 at 10:12am
This is a clear example of how important state rights will have to become, because the federal government is so corrupt, it will take states to deal with criminals and those that aid them. In particular, this administration grows and employs corruption…but think about it…IF & WHEN states take back their rights, the corruption chain, including the huge byproduct of a lot of lawyers, attorneys & judges that aid deception and use of tax dollars on nonsense and ignorance.
Revival takes individuals to stand, but first revival calls for us to look into our own lives, and downsize and confront the things we shouldn’t be doing, aiding this value. No wiggle room can be allowed.
And lastly, in my opinion, this will take a massive stand in Capital Punishment. Putting convicted murderers, rapists, molesters, pedophiles, molesters, kidnappers and terrorists in front of firing squads, the day of conviction executions…no wiggle room.
April 16, 2015 at 12:10am
Progressives, illegals, immigration, border, taxes, rights, entitlements, TRUTH, personal responsibility, Social Justice, Political Correctness, shame, restitution, discipline, morality, commonsense…just to name a few over the last name Bush.
 April 15, 2015 at 11:05pm
And now for the FACTS over the FEELINGS from this murder spree some call a tragedy.
There was 100 percent gun control at Sandy Hook Elementary on December 14, 2012. FACT!
No guns were allowed, period. You can’t have more gun than that. FACT!
There were laws against stealing guns and possessing stolen guns as well.FACT!…But none of these laws stopped or even dissuaded Adam Lanza. FACT!
I hope these country singers wake up to the FACTS, before this FEELING act of aiding bypassing a key right that keep criminals not the only ones with guns…just legally owning them.
 April 15, 2015 at 8:04pm
Sadly, we increase that value in many ways through immigration, media, education and entertainment. The ‘wheat’ is growing…and so are the ‘tares’. When will we figure out ‘chicken feed’ won’t feed what we need…Just create more weeds.
Israel is surrounded by weeds…and sadly, America eats a daily diet of ‘weeds’ instead of ‘wheat’.
 April 15, 2015 at 8:02pm
This Sunday, April 19, is identified as “Patriots’ Day.” In truth, April 19, 1775, should be regarded as important a date to Americans as July 4, 1776. It’s a shame we don’t celebrate Patriots’ Day as we do Independence Day. It’s even more shameful that many Americans don’t remember what happened on this day back in 1775. This was the day the “shot heard ’round the world” was fired. It was the day America’s War for Independence began. When I think of ALL the corruption & immoralities that got us too the path of a pastor standing, & calling it all out…What will it take for us to start ‘Questioning with boldness’ what IS for us in America. Who IS for America…& calling out the many dark, many perverse, many lying/deceiving sources inside America that take advantage of the term freedom, & we should shame them, make them pay restitution & discipline them to the fullest extent our laws use to stand to protect the innocent, & make the guilty REALLY pay. Just think of why we have so much corruption, so many liars, abusers within government, federal & state. They have to keep the pipeline of protection, through corrupt attorneys, lawyers, judges, educators & politicians intact…or we wouldn’t need half of them. Crime would really pay, including ‘representation’. Revival takes a point where we reach the bottom, figuratively & in reality.
Sadly, we increase that value in many ways through immigration, media, education and entertainment. The 'wheat' is growing...and so are the 'tares'. When will we figure out 'chicken feed' won't feed what we need...Just create more weeds.
Israel is surrounded by weeds...and sadly, America eats a daily diet of 'weeds' instead of 'wheat'.
 April 15, 2015 at 6:32pm
If ‘reverend’ Al Sharpton can’t be sent to jail for tax fraud…the last thing commonsense will bring is getting rid of tax cheats. In fact, the IRS will hire them, as well as many government positions, federal and state. It’s not like its their money taken…just more ways of keep the employment of criminals on tax payer’s backs.
Al Sharpton committed fraud. That isn't the same thing as "being behind".
 April 15, 2015 at 6:28pm
Sarah Silverman, sad to say, is just another example of ‘ends justify the means’. In order to show the ‘plight’ of women, and the pay gap, she lies to become a part of the voice…and in doing so, exposes the liar she is, and actually hurts the credibility of ‘pay gap’ gate.
I know plenty of women who make more than the men in their office…I also know some women that complain and yet do not take the extra hours, off the clock, to get the job done…yet then still complain when a position comes up.
I also know women, in their office, that work hard, longer and with more truth in their job then the men there…and she makes more.
I’m sure there are those that do this, in fact there are many that even point out the White House, under the current administration, as well as Hillary Clinton, do not pay women the same as men. Funny how that is left out.
Sarah Silverman should be shamed for her lie. She should have to pay some sort of restitution for what her lies have helped increase deception…and I hope the gentleman at this club does just that. Instead of a PSA lie, how about her wearing an orange jumpsuit and a cardboard sign saying she lied…Of course that usually helps those that lie, cheat and steal these days in our society of ignorance and arrogance called ‘celebrities’.