User Profile: RealLiibertarian


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  • [1] September 1, 2015 at 5:36pm

    7truth, no two mutually exclusive arguments can not bot be true. However, since you have no scientific proof that your belief is any more true than my Wiccan belief, or Hindu belief, or any other belief, then all beliefs are equal in their non-provability. And yes, the Christian right is constantly trying to write the law to conform with their Bible. This very issue of gay marriage, which matters not at all to most people, has a constant parade of Christians calling for laws, Constitutional amendments, etc. Same goes for many laws concerning sex, morality, and behaviour that have no basis in anything except your Bible. You are not in charge anymore. You don’t get to make non Christians follow Christian morality and dogma.

  • [3] September 1, 2015 at 2:42pm

    BULL!!!! There is no Christian persecution in this country. Your churches are not closed, your preachers are not arrested, you have the right to pray, your tax exempt status has not been repealed (though it should be), you can still push your mythology over the airwaves, and there’s a church on damn near every street corner. Not being allowed to force your beliefs on the rest of us, not being allowed to make the the rules anymore, and not being the group in charge do not constitute persecution except in the tiny minds of those who can’t stand being forced to accept that other beliefs are just as valid and equal to yours.

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  • [4] September 1, 2015 at 10:40am

    Just- some of us are here. 2 points though. First, being a Christian, Libertarian, or anything else, does not give you the right to break the law. That is one of the founding principals, NOBODY is above the law. Second,even if she is opposed to issuing the licence, why has she forbidden anyone else in her office from issuing them? Her liberty does not extend to forcing others, either her office staff or people applying for the licence, to accept her personal religious beliefs. She is trying to use the power of her office to trample on the liberty of others. That is by no means libertarian.

  • [8] September 1, 2015 at 10:09am

    Steve- does she interrogate all the people who want licences for 2nd and 3rd marriages to find out who was at fault? Does she refuse to grant licences for interfaith couples? No, she is standing on this one issue because a bunch of moronic clergymen have decided that this is a way to increase their coffers and political influence at the expense of the terminally sanctimonious. The Bible has no standing in US law and does not apply to everyone. She, like many others, has been brainwashed into thinking that right wing Christians still make the rules. She is utterly and completely wrong.

  • [5] August 31, 2015 at 10:19pm

    And I never had a problem with Christians. Still don’t with real Christians like Episcopalians. But the Christian right needs to be strong armed. They need to be told in no uncertain terms that they don’t get to tell the rest of us how to live, that they do not own the term ‘marriage’, and their bible is irrelevant in the context of US law.

  • [-4] August 31, 2015 at 8:20am

    Anyone who is shocked, outraged, or in any way upset by the sight of a bare breast or a pop diva’s performance is not someone that I want with any input into the running of this country.

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  • [9] August 27, 2015 at 2:05pm

    Lots of job descriptions change as the market and conditions change. That’s basic in the beloved business world of the conservatives. I’d like to know if her contract has that boilerplate phrase so common in contracts “Other duties as required”. I’ll bet it does. Fire her, escort her to the door, if she protests, arrest her for trespassing.

  • [7] August 27, 2015 at 9:38am

    The right keeps saying that the government should not be involved in marriage, and I agree with them. The government has no right to demand that we ask permission or pay for licences to get married. Simply a form stating that you are in a relationship with another person or persons and filed with the town clerk should be enough. Takes the whole religions objection angle out of the picture and leaves it up to the individual churches as to who they will or will not marry. We have given too many rights to the government that they now sell back to us. Time to remove the whole licencing culture.

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  • [-3] August 25, 2015 at 1:00pm

    Sure, AK. Go ahead and believe that. Now run along. Don’t you have some praying for society to do? (pats on head)

  • [-3] August 25, 2015 at 12:47pm

    Wow, AK, hit a nerve there? You seem to protest too much. Jealous, maybe? Friends who have an open situation while you’re confined to mowing the lawn and cleaning the garage? You can deny it all you want, you can call me a liar, though you have no proof, and you can ignore what is happening in front of your face, but truth remains. Sexual mores have changed and are changing. Younger people are dropping religion, don’t care about gay marriage, see no problem with bisexuality, and are not tied into the concept of monogamy. The puritan backlash of the last quarter century is coming to a close. Ashley Madison may be the most famous, but there are plenty of websites, gatherings and even conventions out there for ordinary people who want to broaden their horizons.

  • [-1] August 25, 2015 at 12:31pm

    Sorry AvenJERK, but you have no idea who I know and what circles I move in. Intelligent, educated people, not knuckle dragging God botherers from the flyover states. Try and expand your knowledge, and don’t believe the BS that your pastor hands out every Sunday. There’s a whole world of people who don’t believe in sin and your Bible, and don’t care about it. Neither conservative nor liberal, the libertarian movement is growing, and with it the demise of the silly rules you have for controlling and engineering society.

  • [-5] August 25, 2015 at 11:49am

    Well, usedtobe, I can only speak from experience that I know far more 20 and 30 year relationships that are open and happy, than I do 20 and 30 year relationships that are monogamous. Hell, it’s a miracle if couples make 10 years these days. We were much happier in the 60′s and 70′s, and those relationships have lasted. With all the emphasis on material wealth and the retread of the idea that monogamy and abstinence are the best way to live, I’m not seeing it as an improvement on society.

  • [-7] August 25, 2015 at 11:27am

    Trying to con these people into believing they committed “sin” is what’s evil. Wake up to reality. There are very few people who can accept that one person can provide for all their emotional and sexual needs for the rest of their lives. The human animal is not wired that way. If you don’t believe me, look at the divorce rate. Yes, cheating is not the way, but accepting open marriages and relationships, or polyamory provides for saner, more stable relationships.

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  • [-2] August 24, 2015 at 12:06pm

    7truth, you, like so many others on the Christian right, seem to have forgotten two major parts of your Bible. Free will, given by your God. ‘Judge not, lest ye be judged’. And yet, the Christian right continues in its efforts to eliminate free will and to judge non Christians by Christian standards. Original source enough for you?

  • [-2] August 24, 2015 at 11:26am

    Not widely then, since real Christians don’t try to force their will on others.

  • [-5] August 24, 2015 at 11:15am

    Yes, but its not just the funding, is it? If the issue was just the funding, I’d go along with it, as long as the conservatives also were in favor of stripping the military budget and the corporate welfare. But the funding is a side show smokescreen. The (un)conservatives want to shut PP down completely, and remove the freedom of a woman to control her own body. So they bring up the usual crap about funding this one small budget issue, while ignoring the massive amounts wasted on kabuki theater security and pointless foreign wars. No, this has nothing to do with saving money, this is about controlling women.

  • [-2] August 24, 2015 at 9:56am

    I haven’t seen any reports of women being kidnapped and forced to have abortions. I don’t care if you don’t approve of abortions, don’t have one. But it is not your place to stop other women from making their choice to have an abortion. that’s the problem, we don’t force you to have one, but you want to force women NOT to have one. As far as using taxpayer money, get back to me when I have the right to stop paying for TSA, foreign wars, and defence contractors.

  • [-4] August 24, 2015 at 9:45am

    Roe is about privacy, something that the anti’s refuse to respect when it comes to abortion, although they sure scream about privacy when it comes to 2nd Amendment issues. Don’t get me wrong, I don’t think the government has any business in either issue. the (un)conservatives scream long and load when their privacy is invaded and then turn around and get in the faces of women who make their own choices about sexuality and reproductive choice. Just another hypocritical stance of the right.

  • August 24, 2015 at 9:25am

    Evil is trying to make someone else run their life by your standards.

  • [-4] August 24, 2015 at 9:18am

    Not murder. USSC determined that year ago. See Roe V. Wade. Suck it up.

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