Hear, hear! I could not agree more. I would add that a man’s honor is at stake should he not take decisive action when the well being of his family is threatened. Granted, the man in this situation did more than nothing, he had the balls to confront this scumbag, but he also did less than he was honor bound to do.
 September 25, 2014 at 8:35pm
Turn Trey Gowdy loose on him. I’d buy tickets to watch that one.
 June 23, 2014 at 8:42pm
Twerking is a revolting and tasteless display. It is clearly a manifestation of a lack of self respect. Why not just say ” Look at me, I’m fornicating with the air for your amusement!!! The first person to see a clear silhouette of my vagina is the winner!!!!!” Trashy.
Yes, it is horrible. And to think parents let their little kids see and do the same thing.
 June 23, 2014 at 6:09pm
A similar incident happened to me about a year ago. I was at a friends birthday party when I began babbling incoherently, stumbling around, and being confrontational. We didn’t have a ouija board but I did consume more than my fair share of whiskey.
 June 22, 2014 at 12:32pm
PRO, the second agency I worked for also subscribed to the “customer service” policy. In this particular agency it trickled down to patrol in such a manner that officers were afraid to ever place their hands on anyone. I was placed in several compromising situations with violent people because there was no decisive action being taken by my fellow officers. I was not willing to go home injured or dead and took decisive action when necessary. As a result I was the subject of several IA investigations. In every instance I was exonerated, but customer service can and does compromise the safety of the patrol level officer. IMHO
 June 22, 2014 at 12:05pm
JOHNBARLEY, excellent response.Thank you for your service, I am a vet myself, Did a tour in Kosovo as an MP doing Route Recon and QRF. You are correct that we probably will have to agree to disagree on certain aspects. I will agree that there is mismanagement and corruption in our police system. That is why I am no longer a cop. Political agendas and politics have largely ruined the profession. Officers are forced by law or policy to arrest people who, in my opinion, do not need to go to jail. I also agree in some cases it is in the best interest of the dept, not the people, to make certain issues go away.
In this case I still contend the driver was in the wrong. The officer was there on a lawful stop and was not the primary aggressor. I will stand by the “No touchey” rule.
Have a most wonderful day and a better tomorrow!
 June 22, 2014 at 11:23am
JOHNBARLEY, that is quite possibly the most ignorant comment I have heard today, uttered by a person who clearly has never worked as or with people in law enforcement.
“It is anathema to the law enforcement industry to view the population (citizens and others) as a customer.”
I was a cop for 10 years. I met victims, witnesses and suspects, some of whom were cold blooded violent killers but NEVER met a customer.
There are some imperfect and unfit cops out there, but the “Customer” standard is asinine and places all of our officers in danger.
Police are necessary as long as evil people exist and as long as we have rules of conduct. As a society we grant the police certain powers to execute their job. Go ahead and try treating real scumbags like customers, let me know how that works out for you.
 June 22, 2014 at 10:28am
The argument of the false name and number on the citation doesn’t even pass the common sense test. How is the officer going to present his case in court if he does something that stupid?
 June 22, 2014 at 9:43am
PRO, you said “the cop refused to ID himself.” This was a uniformed deputy in a marked car. He was calmly explaining the citation, and as YIDDISH stated his name and number would have been on the citation.
This was not a case of “failure to grovel” . This woman could have been as P.O.d and verbal as she wanted and nothing further would have happened. You don’t put your hands on a cop, period. If the officer allows this woman to get away with it then he has to allow the 19 year old gang banger with an attitude to do it.
 June 18, 2014 at 5:53pm
“Our sobriety checkpoint is all about educating the public,” an officer claims on the video. “And we need them to come through the checkpoint to educate them.”
So by his own admission the police have reeducation camps. Granted the duration is brief, but people are being detained against their will for the purpose of “education”. Hmmmmmmm , where have I heard of this before? Seems It was in some sort of history book or something……..
 May 28, 2014 at 10:43pm
Sapper, the prior SSG concurs.
Using the word “clip” incorrectly is one of my pet peeves and makes me squirm every time someone utters the ignorance.
 May 28, 2014 at 9:35pm
Folks, We have to get this right lest we sound uneducated. “Magazines” are what most modern semi automatic firearms use. They contain ammunition and are inserted into the firearm where the firearm then extracts the ammunition one round at a time . A “clip” is a speed loader of sorts and feeds an internal magazine in the firearm.
Don’t sound like a moron.
Customs Officer Richard Sanicola found “two 30-round AK-47 magazine clips”
May 14, 2014 at 6:10pm
I just thought of a new govt program that would create jobs for retired UFC champions. Since punks like this kid like to beat on older people, lets lock him in a room for just 5 minutes with, oh… say, Chuck Liddell or even older Ken Shamrock. Justice would be served, we would create jobs, and it would be entertaining as hell.
 May 13, 2014 at 4:38pm
Center mass is the largest part of the target you can hit, minimizing your chance of a miss. If all you can see is the bad guys pinky finger sticking out from behind a concrete wall, shoot at the center of that. Any hit is better than a miss.
 May 11, 2014 at 8:18pm
It is the duty of a parent to teach and mold their children. This is not only what normal society says, but more importantly what God says. You might want to study.
 May 11, 2014 at 8:14pm
Have you seen her arms?
 May 11, 2014 at 8:07pm
Where is the male role model? Does he have one?
Both of my boys were under the car with me by the time they could walk, my daughter was there too but didn’t show as much interest . My eldest son, 17, loves most of the same things I do. He wants to build a hot rod, wants more guns, and is thinking about his future and what education or military education suits his goals best. I suspect that is because I involved him in manly things from an early age. My younger son, 3, (same wife I might add) loves trucks, trailers, tricycles, stomps bugs, draws pictures of excavators, pees in the yard and plays Just Dance 2 on the WII with his sister . My daughter is 11 and is a girly girl who takes most of her influence from her mother. She likes stuffed things, pretty dresses and baking, yet still loves to play outside and make things out of sand and dirt.
My children were never told what to be or which toys to play with. They were told what was and was not acceptable behavior. They learned by example what men’s and women’s roles were in the environment where they lived.
My point is, how is this boy supposed to act like a man when he has no man around to teach him?
 May 8, 2014 at 9:47pm
Thank you all for your supportive comments.
The sad truth is that most cops are damaged at some level. Day after day we see people at their worst, affecting unspeakable evil upon others. We see victims of horrific accidents maimed, disfigured and killed. Suicides, murders, battered women, violent rapes, child molesters, stabbings and shootings; every form of ugliness you can imagine and some you could never conceive. Sometimes we are granted the privilege of investigating a crime and then assisting the coroner with collecting the remains. On occasion we are caught alone in a fight for our lives. These things we cope with. HOWEVER when the administration wont back you, or when policy removes officer discretion and states you must arrest someone because of another’s political agenda, and then threatens disciplinary action for non compliance…..That is STRESS for anyone who believes in the constitution, or even holds human dignity in high regard. Some officers get it, unfortunately others don’t.
It is a very difficult profession. Those who do it right deserve your utmost respect and admiration. Those who fail to do the right thing, well, that’s a huge topic with many extenuating circumstances. I’ll leave that for you to decide.
 May 7, 2014 at 9:58pm
Scenarios like this are one of the reasons I RESIGNED after 10 years on the job. I started for all the right reasons. I waned to make a difference, go get the bad guys and maybe even help someone every once in a while (OK I wanted to drive fast and carry guns too). But after a few years years reality sets in. Police agencies are full of administrators who have political aspirations. The law makers and politicians, with their own agendas, look to the administrators to do their bidding. Well, poo rolls down hill and guess who ends up being the henchman. The little guy ends up arresting people who don’t need to go to jail.
It got to the point I dreaded the thought of having to go back to work. I would sit at home and obsess over it. I was drinking to much and was generally not a nice guy. God bless my wife for nor tolerating me and not leaving.
It took a deployment with my National Guard unit to put everything in perspective. I was gone for 13 months. As I prepared to come home my biggest concern was not for my family but the gut wrenching dread of returning to the police dept. I came home, took the family to Sea World, and then marched into the police dept with all of my gear and resigned.
Now I am a superintendent for a general contractor. I work long hours tired and nasty in the heat and and cold and couldn’t be happier. I’m a much better husband and father, I think my wife even likes me now.
Good man. Be nice to your special inspectors by the way, at least the ones who want to help. Not the wannabe cops.
I hear you. Been on ten years as well. I have an interview tomorrow for a better paying job. ( prayers are appreciated!) my daughter being born has changed my perspectives alot. I'm tired of dealing with scum. My family deserves better.
It sounds like you did the right thing. Enjoy your family and your life. Best wishes to all of you!
I understand your strife. I am at the decade mark as well and although it has been tough at times, departments need people with critical reasoning skills to take the administration to task at times. Not to mention the unions that try to get the members to vote for "their" candidate. We can't give up and/or give in to the political ambition of others. You stand up for what is right and voice an opinion.
THAT is awesome!
I know exactly what you mean by "the gut wrenching dread of returning to the police dept [job-X]." Many of us do. But when law enforcement officers come to the conclusion that they can't live in a filthy setting, I feel hope for our future.
YOU have character!
Take pride in that hard days work, at least you are now doing something productive. Think of all the money saved in gym memberships. Hard work is its own reward.
I was an MP for two years in the Army. When I got out, I applied to the Police Dept and the Fire Dept in my home town. I was accepted by both. After thinking about it for a while, I chose the Fire Department. That was some 40 years ago and I've never regretted the choice. I retired after 31 years and while I learned a lot as a cop, I would never have lasted as one. Today it's even worse. I was speaking to a group about what it means to be a Christian and I heard a police officer say that he was close to being forced to chose either his faith or his profession; that he couldn't continue to be both. A sad commentary on the world.
Good for you Rwnj....DO NOT sell your soul for your moral convictions....you are the better man for it.
I even like you now.
Thank you all for your supportive comments.
The sad truth is that most cops are damaged at some level. Day after day we see people at their worst, affecting unspeakable evil upon others. We see victims of horrific accidents maimed, disfigured and killed. Suicides, murders, battered women, violent rapes, child molesters, stabbings and shootings; every form of ugliness you can imagine and some you could never conceive. Sometimes we are granted the privilege of investigating a crime and then assisting the coroner with collecting the remains. On occasion we are caught alone in a fight for our lives. These things we cope with. HOWEVER when the administration wont back you, or when policy removes officer discretion and states you must arrest someone because of another's political agenda, and then threatens disciplinary action for non compliance.....That is STRESS for anyone who believes in the constitution, or even holds human dignity in high regard. Some officers get it, unfortunately others don't.
It is a very difficult profession. Those who do it right deserve your utmost respect and admiration. Those who fail to do the right thing, well, that's a huge topic with many extenuating circumstances. I'll leave that for you to decide.
The average time a police officer stays on the job is ten years. The stomach churning when thinking about going to work accounts for most of them. It did for me, too.
Just reading your post got me sick all over again. What did it for me was the crooked politicians that reap rewards not punishment. And in a fit of ultimate naiveté I thought my investigation and findings would be enough to move the dinosaur establishment to be shamed into action. Instead I was forced into early retirement. Just to be sure, we no longer have the same America we were born to, maybe it never was the one we learned about in the Dick and Jane readers.
Wow, you just summed up my reasons for resigning almost two years ago after nine years, and yes, my wife enjoys my company again. I looked back now, and I can't understand why I didn't do it sooner. But come to think of it, a bunch of people have been walking away!