Some nuggets of truth and some intentional falsehoods in what appears to be a ridiculous story.
September 16, 2013 at 3:53pm
Got that right ! Did you read some of the others on there ? Why the #$%^ can’t they print the entire text of those amendments ? It’s not like they are more than a few sentences. Can’t let anyone other than the all-powerful educated elite interpret anything, I guess. Sounds like keeping the Bible only printed in Latin to me…
September 14, 2013 at 4:11am
It is Austin, probably the most lib part. Take note that that there still is enough freedom to actually make the videos of the police. Seems like some cops in the US are more afraid of cameras than firearms.
Based on how angry he makes people with these kinds of comments, it seems like another civil war is exactly what he is trying to accomplish.
July 27, 2013 at 8:52am
Classic left : Accuse the opposition of your own flaws.
July 14, 2013 at 3:19pm
Good job changing the subject. Whatever happens, it’s got to be related to your agenda.
July 14, 2013 at 3:08pm
A robot, devoid of a soul, programmed to create sound bites that support and uphold his own, and their own power. Critical thinking is not an option, and truth only when it suits the agenda.
July 14, 2013 at 12:37pm
It was never established that Zimmerman was a racist and we will never be able to get into his mind. However, events surrounding this trial are definitively racist, and shows the worst of people’s character. The assumption of guilt and profiling, the lynch mob mentality and revenge aspect, the excuses, the arrogance, the perverted definition of justice where past wrongs are placed on one man.
We live in a more racist country than I have seen since I was young, but the majority of the fault does not lie with the majority group(s) any longer.
The more of these actions we see from people like the NAACP, the more people will start to shun them as they did with the KKK.
July 5, 2013 at 10:32am
“Your party” ? Which party is that ? Last I heard, there were only two corrupt parties with any power. Don’t assume that I or anyone else here belongs to either one.
July 5, 2013 at 9:28am
Fear-mongering is for those without evidence. We have rule of law ? A functioning banking system is what’s important to you ? If you don’t want to see the evidence, fine. Only a progressive would disparage another man’s right to free speech, assembly and capitalism.
June 17, 2013 at 7:17pm
Ok Seth, calm down before we publish your personal info from the NSA database.
May 4, 2013 at 5:09pm
At some point, this won’t be a theoretical discussion, but I suspect ‘ol Billy will be proved wrong.
Can you please identify how the military and law enforcement capabilities of the nations you identified compare to that of the world's greatest and greatest funded one (Our U.S. military and law enforcement).
You might want to start with how - and I'm probably pretty safe in assuming... The capabilities of all those nations COMBINED could not 'compete' to the 'firepower' of the U.S.
And then maybe you can explain why we should compare IN ANY WAY the situations of those nations you identified against a possible U.S. tyrannical leadership and possible civilian uprising against such.
Anything that comes out of Potato nose Bill's mouth is a waste of word's. He's spent too much time with hookers, his brain it fried. A writer friend of mine met him at a party once, he said he was the most obnoxious, arrogant little troll he ever met in his life, true story.
If someone gave him a firearm, he would shoot himself in the nose.....
This idiot is comparing apples to oranges. Waco was nothing more than a surprise armed assault on a contained fixed target involving a handful of adults and an army of FBI agents. If an armed conflict broke out coast to coast there are not enough government law enforcement people to do anything about it. Sorry Billy, if the SHTF nobody is coming to protect your dumb a**. All of those government guns will be in the hands of civilians very quickly.
Hmmmm Didn't the British say something like that about America about 200 years ago!
Bill Maher is a typical elitist leftwing SNOB.
In the early 1940's we heard the same type of idiots say, WE are too civilized, WE are too technologically advanced, WE are too educated, WE are way past any one trying to over throw the government or take over the world.............
If the security of the world were left up to liberals/progressives (idiots like Bill Maher, and his viewers) We would be speaking German. We, the Armed Conservatives, would be the ones resisting the invasion. Bill Maher and his viewers would be learning to speak German.
If a movement begins to sweep the nation, to over throw the tyranny of the federal government, you can bet elitist snobs, like Maher, will be on the side of the government. Honest, hard working and American Patriots will be on the side of freedom.
*Nothing is more toxic to humans than collectivism.
(quote from a blaze commenter)
Let's examine this scenario, factoring in the logistics of warfare:
An armed revolution begins. It can be presumed that at least a 3rd of the military would defect, seeing as how the more experienced veterans would not fight to kill the people they signed up to defend.
After more than a few months of the conflict, we can easily expect more soldiers to defect.
The government would have to fight a vicious guerrilla war, with states, counties, cities, even neighborhoods split up over the conflict. With this fierce mix of enemies and friendlies, military airstrikes and artillery would be out of the question. The more friendlies the government killed, the more soldiers would defect and the more citizens would join the revolution.
Couple that with the vastly superior numbers and possibly infrastructure (the infrastructure of the government would be severely weakened, they will effectively be destroying their own supply lines) of the insurrectionists (superior numbers is all that won the allies WW2, we could produce more ammo, send more soldiers) would quickly overwhelm what government forces remained. Assuming no intervention from the UN, I can easily see the conflict ending within 2 years.
Libs seem to think that the military would automatically squash a legitimate uprising in response to Marxist/socialist tearing up our Constitution (which is what it would take to have such an uprising of patriot citizens). I don't believe that would happen. They take an oath to uphold the Constitution too and it means a lot more to them than these idiot politicians on the left. If anything, I believe they would join in and protect what so many of their brothers and sisters have died for over the last 200 + years, freedom. It amazes me how these so-called educated people think it is impossible to lose our freedom here in the USA. Soon it will come back around to them and then they will wonder wtf happened...to late. Morons.
I love Maher's hypothesis,. Why? Because in real time less than one million poorly armed Afghanis have fought the US to a draw, which we are trying to,escape from with some credibility. I have liberals friends who say, "yeah, but we are not bombing them (not using our full military might)" I agree and also counter, if we will not bomb Afghanis, then what makes anyone think the US government will bomb American women and children. So, yes I believe the second amendment can still make a difference.
Further, if they thought it impossible, why would they even mention it?
Will Maher and O'donnell enlist to quash the rebellion or are they now going to support the military they have opposed for their entire adult lives? They are the people twisting in the wind.
Mr dynamo hum. The US military trained manpower that are now civilians in the US exceeds the military trained populations of all of those se Asian countries combined. Does anyone think the US military will attack and kill their families?
The recent lessons are Iraq, Afghanistan and Vietnam. They have or will control their destinies and they started without legal arms in Vietnam and with old bolt actions, Afghanistan or stolen military arms in Iraq. Americans are armed with high quality arms and optics that most sovereign militaries would be drooling over. The Air Force will not bomb the burns, so there is parity in armament to begin with. The branch Davidians fought a defensive battle from the outset and the ATF burned the compound to win the battle killing children in the process which has cast a pall on the entire operation. Name anyone who considers this to be a high point in US history. One or two more "victories" like this will lose you the war, think My Lai.
"The beauty of the second amendment is that it will not be necessary until they try to take it"
"When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people there is liberty"
President Jefferson is pretty clear on the meaning of the second amendment.... Not a word about hunting or personal defense. Maher can kiss my arse.
The FIRST target of a movement against a communist/socialist government would be THE MEDIA (phonies like Bill Maher).
Free American Patriots would take great pride and joy in bringing down the bull horn of the leftist/progressivist/communist/sociaist (the media) government.
Taking down the communication towers, the power supply (and generators) and the buildings themselves. What a beautiful sight to see the NBC sign smashed in the gutter (they're already in the gutter, the difference is the sign would be smashed).
PATHETIC PHONY LOSERS like Bill Maher wouldn't be able to hide in his home or at the HBO studios, or any where in America. The resistance (American Patriots) would want to "talk" to him, he likes to run his mouth, so you would think he would want to talk.
Instead, He would flee like a LIBERAL ELITIST SNOB to FRANCE or CANADA.
*Nothing is more toxic to humans than collectivism.
(quote from a blaze commenter)
Here's a mnemonic for you Bill: "Waco" = "Wake-up".
Let's say a few of those 44% republicans, ok tens of millions then, thought to themselves, "this might be a good time to buy ammo . . . or more guns . . . ."
1.9 million rounds in the hands of 76 individuals, including men, women and children, doesn't sound like that much now, does it Bill?
Let's just say we keep our guns and give full credit to the genius that you can only imagine yourself being.
You, sir, are delusional.
"The people never give up their liberties but under some delusion."
"Those who hammer their guns into plowshares will plow for those who do not."
"Firearms stand next in importance to the constitution itself. They are the American people's liberty teeth and keystone under independence … from the hour the Pilgrims landed to the present day, events, occurences and tendencies prove that to ensure peace security and happiness, the rifle and pistol are equally indispensable … the very atmosphere of firearms anywhere restrains evil interference — they deserve a place of honor with all that's good."
"I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them."
"The strongest reason for people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government." -- (Thomas Jefferson)
How does Maher not see America has failed for many decades?
Why does he think we have ascended beyond the 2nd Amendment?
Baffling that someone so rich can be so wildly ignorant!
One last example. World War Two the Warsaw ghetto uprising started with 29 firearms, mostly pistols, the result was a loss for the Jewish inhabitants, or was it, they fought the best equipped military in the world for three days, disease ridden, seriously malnourished civilians with NO military training. Partisans in Russia and Yugoslavia tied down entire divisions and disrupted logistics for the German army for the entire war. And in the end Israel was founded. Bill please perform a cranial rectotomy and stop embarrassing yourself.
Oh can't forget this. Libya, Egypt, Syria. Bill?
One week he says the government is out of control and the next week he tells us there is nothing to fear from our government. Then he says an armed populace is no match for the US military. Maybe that is the case. Maybe I'll just hang on to my firearms, you never know. Think I'll air on the side of caution. Think I'll stick with the bill of rights. I think the 2cnd amendment protects the rest.
I love Bill's argument: You don't need that right because the government will never try to take your rights.
Shakes head in disgust.
Our Military cannot currently defeat men in PJ's and wearing sandals. 2 million licensed Dear hunters in PA alone. I suggest anyone who cannot grasp how this could be possible read this. http://www.jeffhead.com/liberty/handgun.htm
No Bill. it's the Constitution that protects us from tyranny. But tyrants like you and Obama just ignore it and the Second Amendment.
@Zapprules....Viet Nam vs. US (of course the French were first); Afghanistan vs. USSR and USA.
Maher -we are already there unless we are one of the elite like you! Read "‘Absolutely Sickening’: Blaze Readers React to Cops Who Took Baby Away Because Parents Wanted 2nd Medical Opinion". How does Bllombergs fantasies affect you? Diane wants you disarmed. Are you? How about the Hoollywood crowd? Are all their bodyguards unarmed? Hmmmm. Methinks you are full of crap Bill. Thinking with the wrong head at your age will get you in trouble.
When the shooting starts, the military and the cops will mostly be on OUR side.
"President Jefferson is pretty clear on the meaning of the second amendment"
Haha! It would seem that way, except there is no evidence that Thomas Jefferson ever said either of those quotations. I'd say it's a bit disrespectful of you to deliberately misquote Jefferson just to make your own point.
Haha. You all talk a big game about revolution and uprising. I suppose that's easy to do when you hang out on conservative message boards and act all tough in the company of people who already agree with you. It's quite funny to see.
Might i ad that there are over 300 million guns in america.... We have expelled all of our military almost all to two countries the size of texas and Louisiana combined how big is america. I live in a town pop 25,000 there is a police force of about 100. Now just take that and multiply it. By 50the states if the citizens of america ever feel really feel the government is restricting our 2ndmilitary amendment right look the f**k out obama. Lets not forget who runs this country n i promise u your not envading a bunch of non educatio sh**ting n the middle of the street sandnazis. Plus never forget how many people will give there life for freedom of liberty. This country is not full of sheltered ideots like oh billy... lets just hope ......
george washington and all the patriots faced the same odds as today and tyranny was her name. good in the face of evil never looked at the odds. only at the freedom of her children. semper fi
bill maher is a wussified closted butt pirate!
I'm not sure of the number of vets in this country but I do know that they swore an oath to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States of America against all enemies foreign and domestic. It is the same oath that has been administered since the founding to all who serve in the military. I am bound to this oath that I took in April of 1968 and I have never rescinded my promise and feel obligated to this day to uphold that promise. I would hazard a guess that there are a lot of vets that feel the same obligation and I have no doubt that there are large numbers of active military and police personnel who also feel that same obligation and would not turn their arms against the American people.
Billie's superior force theory just went into the sh***er where he belongs.
The skeptics said the same thing before we defeated the British you numbskull Billy..Just when I thought he was gaining common sense he opens his mouth and it's full of turds!!!
I've heard 4 radical leftists like Maher say about the same thing on t.v. within the last month.
How anyone can be so naïve as to think in the terms they do is absolutely amazing. I can think of so many reasons and instances the government HAS TO BE kept in check it woulkd take a book to write them all.
And certainly anyone thinking the way they do has got to be naïve, gullible and totally devoid of any and all real understanding of human behavior and the real world.
But, as Michael Savage so aptly stated, "Liberalism is a mental disorder." And, of course, that would explain why liberal thinking is so skewed.
This coming scenario is going to be a rude awakening to these people, but some of them won't wake up even when a RPG comes blasting through their front doors.
Whatever action is taken when the SHTF, I'm pretty certain the number one priority will be concentrating on thinning the herd so we won't have to worry about a repeat performance.
Posted on May 5, 2013 at 1:55pm
Haha. You all talk a big game about revolution and uprising. I suppose that’s easy to do when you hang out on conservative message boards and act all tough in the company of people who already agree with you. It’s quite funny to see.
Well look who's talking Mr. I'll come on a forum, puff up my chest and talk a lot of smack, Cyber Tough Guy. What an idiot.
Disprove the quotes and the premise for the case I laid out. Less than 10% of the American population defeated the greatest military power in the world at that time. We are their descendants and some of us have the same passion. What do you believe in?
Most Americans thought it was foolhardy for a bunch of misfit American country boys to take on the world's most powerful army, the British. Those same Americans rightly knew that the British would draw and quarter for treason those who fought against them. Those same Americans also knew that the British would not stop there. The British would confiscate all of the property of the person convicted of treason and possibly kill their wives and children, or at least leave their wives and children as penniless paupers starving on the streets. In other words, there was very little incentive to fight the British except for the fact that it was even more intolerable to live like a slave under the rule of a British Monarch.
January 26, 2013 at 2:54pm
Yep. That is the most dangerous department in the government.
Why doesn’t the Posse Comitatus Act apply to them as well ?
January 26, 2013 at 2:51pm
It would have been cheaper to purchase the source code from some commercial off the shelf software.
January 22, 2013 at 6:45am
I respect your rights under the first amendment, but I will still follow the “Patriotic Customs”, United States Code – Title 36 Chapter 10 . But I will put a flag below it with multiple curses on that man’s name.
January 19, 2013 at 7:30pm
I suppose, to both coast liberals, the entire middle of the country is “fringe”. Besides, progressives that ignore the inconvenient parts of the constitution aren’t “extreme” ?
January 18, 2013 at 6:52pm
You may have missed my point, deterrents was what I was trying to establish, both foreign and domestic ( as was stated above ), not exactly successful armed resistance. That would require an armed populace in addition to state militias; national guard and/or commandeering of federal resources at a state or local level. It’s not impossible that resistance would go that far, look at the recent declarations by state governments and local authorities, in addition to defections from the federal forces due to the violation of their oath to uphold the constitution.
January 18, 2013 at 5:48pm
It’s not a matter of the government showing up at your door, at least not yet, but an armed citizenry is a deterrent to government overreach. It’s much less likely for them to show up at your door for any trivial reason if they know you have the right to ( and possibility of ) armed resistance. Once they disarm the populace, then all bets are off.
even with an armed populace, if the government wanted to turn on you they would be able to easily. your semi autos come no where close to our government's fire power, drones, missiles etc. plus you all want to bring up hitler in comparison all the time. the france and russian armies couldn't even stop hitler. It took our army like 6 years to finally stop him. how do you honestly think the american people would fare if our government went after us? which they never would!
Every citizen has a constitution right to defend him/herself with lethal force if necessary from threats ... threats both foreign and domestic. Ban gun free zones. Law abiding citizens are sitting ducks to the evil that lurks.
Why are you so willingly to believe it could NEVER happen???
History is full to the brim with tyrannical governments.
Defending my family from a criminal or 3 is a tad important. Savvy?
You may have missed my point, deterrents was what I was trying to establish, both foreign and domestic ( as was stated above ), not exactly successful armed resistance. That would require an armed populace in addition to state militias; national guard and/or commandeering of federal resources at a state or local level. It's not impossible that resistance would go that far, look at the recent declarations by state governments and local authorities, in addition to defections from the federal forces due to the violation of their oath to uphold the constitution.
Even when there are natural disasters, the government does not have the man power to protect it's citizens from other citizens who would gladly steal food, water, etc. In such cases, anarchy reigns for a time.
Our military cannot be used on US soil so what is all the talk about fighting against drones and tanks? If the gov't went so rogue as to completely ignore the Constitution then we would definitely need enough firepower to restrain them and install a Constitutional gov't. No matter how you slice it the citizens need to be sufficiently armed.
Keatie, you can't possibly be this big of a phuking coward. You should put your kids up for adoption, you're clearly not man enough to raise children. Cut your penis off and call yourself Sheila. May posterity forget that you were ever our countryman.
Keaton, I disagree. Sure, Californians and New Yorkers would be screwed if the Government were to go Nazi on them, but here in TN, we'd be able to muster up a good fighting force. The insurgency would rise and would never back down. For ever one killed, 10 more will rise up and resist.
Resistance will not be futile. They would take severe casualties, but Americans will stand up and fight back.
I am an Oathkeeper.
@ kEATON33....Since you obviously fancy yourself a prognosticator would you please share the next power ball numbers with me? Pretty please.???
Well Keaton - true but blasting away at your fellow citizens on orders from the government makes for one heck of a PR mess - it is would be a bit hard to spin it as a psotivie if the carange was oh say 25million American citizens dead in the streets at the hands of the government.
Then again - I seem to recall several instances in US History where the big armies of the world (at the time) were taken out by a bunch of rag tag American fighting men - but you could be right
@ Soldier - as a fellow Tennessean I can agree with that -
Hey Keaton - know what the State nicknam is for Tennessee and why we are called that?
I rest Soldiers case...
@Keatonc33 Just to be clear where you talking about the US Military coming after the American Mothers,Fathers,sisters,brothers,Aunts,Uncles etc..... LOL What a joke you are!!!! Yes Yes of course they will side with the muslim dictator over there familys live's.
Ruby Ridge and Waco??? Ruby Ridge they shot women, baby and teenager! Waco, they burned those people alive!!!
Don't allow your liberal talking points to completely cloud your reasoning.
Let me see, who defeated a formidable force in Viet Nam? Was that the Vietnamese people?
Let me see, who defeated the Russians in Afghanistan? Was that the Afghani's?
For crying out loud, if there's been one lesson learned in the last 75 years, it's that an armed population with single-minded determination can defeat a structured military. You forget that our military has been so hobbled with inept leadership that I'm not sure about their ability to take North Dakota!
@Keaton, We’ve been through this before already. If only 1 out of 10 gun owners revolted against the government (meaning 90% say, "I'm sitting this out"), and there are 80 million plus gun owners in the United States, that is a trained army of 8 million soldiers/snipers/partisans. Trained meaning quite a few former military, all very good practiced marksmen (not a goat herder picking up his first rifle). Against an armed populace, the government loses.
why don't you ask the Taliban? They are still alive and kickin. We outnumber the government forces. Their families live in the same places our families live. A bunch of them will not violate their oaths... We are the governments supply line, so they will not have limitless logistics, etc....It would be bloody, it would be horrible, but it would not be impossible. I guarantee it would be worse for people like you.
Germany declared war on the U.S. directly after the U.S. declared war on Japan after Pearl Harbor (Dec. 7, 1941) VE Day was May 8, 1945. Since American forces didn't get into action until 1942, that means that the U.S. was involved in the European Theatre for just over three years, not 6 as you so stupidly stated. I have read many of your posts on this website, and really feel sorry for your totally ignorant butt.
hey Buster K:
every gun purchase is a vote against tyranny. DC knows this, and each month that records record sales, they freak. Each gun buy is a vote against the BS the progs, like you, are trying to foist upon us all.
Go find a better hobby, my friend, like glue sniffing. Not welcome here. Heard your rationale my whole life. Know what you are going to say before you say it.
REALLY: From the inner most reaches of my soul :::: shut the F up and cram it. Maybe if you smash yourself into the box the progs are making for you, I mean, completely smash yourself into the smallest possible box, you might then be happier than ever. And ready for the progs' recycling bins.
Me? just want to be left alone... which progs can't do, won't do, and often need to be told to stop or suffer the consequences. Not a threat. Just a promise.
you have a Constitutional Right to your opinion, as do we all.
Likewise, we all have a Right to keep and bear arms. But the Founders gave us the 2nd Amendment to defend the 1st Amendment, and they said so over and over and over in their writings. If you, or anyone else, doesn't think it could happen and therefore see no need for firearms, great, that's YOUR right!
Just don't expect everyone to see this YOUR way.
As to the might of the U.S. Military, until the 2nd Amendment is over turned and ALL the court cases are run out at the SCOTUS level, it would be illegal for the military to try to take the guns, and I don't see the Pentagon passing out Illegal Orders. That of course is also covered under posse comitatus too, as taking the guns would be a law enforcement item.
Not to mention the fact that the GRAND majority of folks in the military are on that right-wing, gun owning side of things. I see them siding WITH the gun people, not against them.
January 12, 2013 at 4:32pm
I probably should not have used the word “subsidizing” to describe the difference, “official” numbers using dollars as the measure do not bear this out. It’s much more complicated than that. The creation of wealth is much more important than it’s (re)distribution.