But what in your opinion, would a universe that was not designed, look like?
How can you have enough information to decide if the universe was indeed designed,,unless you can show us the opposite.,and you can’t .
[-1] October 22, 2014 at 11:07pm
So, you’re not able to assist me either. Was it something I said?
October 22, 2014 at 11:06pm
Can you provide me specific verses? I need to know what your opinion is.
October 22, 2014 at 11:05pm
So, you’re unable to help as well I guess.
October 22, 2014 at 10:47pm
I just thought you, being a Christian and all, would be able to help me.
October 22, 2014 at 10:45pm
It’s not like I was blasphemous ; maybe on bad taste, but blasphemous, no.
So, getting back to my question?
[-2] October 22, 2014 at 9:04pm
I’m having a real trouble wondering if god of the bible is flat out, an immoral buffoon,or worthy of love and respect. Can anyone help me? Where are the passages that show god to be the to be worshipped in awe and reverence?
I’m looking through the bible as this book seems to be the only thing to go on that offers to describe the nature of god, but I really am having trouble finding those verses which support your idolatry and worship.
It should be something that alleges that god said something or did something to show us his true nature. I’m not interested in a second hand opinion, I can make up my own mind.
Any takers? Anyone?
This is at the very root of our atheistic view; you Christians keep referring to His Holiness in all things, we read the bible and find just the opposite, so we can’t agree with you.
Prove that god is moral!
Throughout the world there are many, many "conceptions of god" and many opportunities to forfeit one's identity. You may be stuck in the best place.
It is likely that you wouldn't recognize God if He walked up to you on the street and introduced Himself to you. You might want to tone down the blasphemous talk too bud, or didn't you know there is an angel assigned to you to record every idle word you say? You will hear of these things later...
You might want to read the book of Exodus, that should give you some understanding of how much God loved us and the everyday miracles that helped Moses and the Israelites get out of Egypt.
what is your opinion of deism then?
don't ask us, ask God. Even if with every bone in your body you think He is unlikely, impossible, a "joke", talk to Him. Then be patient and He will respond. He knows precisely deep inside you how you personally will know a response is from Him for you without doubt. Talk to Him, He will hear.
Why don't you just pray in earnest with an honest heart and God will show you, if you're not honest about it though, the truth will elude you...
He made a world full of things specifically designed to make us humans happy. He made us forests and seas and all sorts of tasty foods. He put shiny metals and gems deep within the Earth, both for admiring and for making that lovely gadget in your hand. He placed the stars because we like to view them, he placed all multitudes of animals knowing we would love them and try to make pets out of them... Even our own bodies were designed to give us the maximum amount of enjoyment while we're here. He knew our innermost natures and made an entire world and everything around it specifically designed around what makes us happy as a race. If he was truly as cruel as you believe he not only would have designed the world around what makes us unhappy, but would have also made us immortal. Even now, if your life sucks, you can die and be free of it. If he really wanted to be cruel he wouldn't allow us to escape such torment.
Roscoe, since you're starting out in a brick box of defensiveness, you're asking the wrong persons for help. Get on your knees and ask the Holy Spirit to help you.
Ask your guardian angel to help you.
god is perfect. he lacks nothing. at some point god decided to create. he created souls that he knew would not please him. souls that don’t please him are tortured for an eternity.
so a perfect god decided to torture people for an eternity.
the only way out of this is if you define god to be ignorant.
[-1] October 22, 2014 at 8:38pm
Don’t keep us in suspense , what were they?
 October 22, 2014 at 8:37pm
That’s your idea of a miracle?
You lost some weight and toned up at the gym, out of nowhere?
Give us some more my lad.
October 22, 2014 at 7:21pm
Wow! Is right.
So basically Jesus is the same monster that you worship as God.
Even the thought of adultery or fornication or homosexuality is enough to condemn anyone to eternal torture.
And you worship this thug because?????
 October 22, 2014 at 7:03pm
“Our side” wants people to think with logic and reason and an open mind, without fear of eternal torture always looming over our every thought, word or deed.
 October 22, 2014 at 6:51pm
Yes, Jesus warns me,
Yes, Jesus warns me,
Yes Jesus warns me,
Accept him or he’ll fry your soul.
 October 22, 2014 at 6:46pm
You call atheists hateful, angry and miserable. I thought those were 3 of the Christian dwarves.
Do you have any evidence to back up your nasty claims?
fantasy will never have real world evidence. lmao they are just up set because atheist dont sit back and shut up while they continue to indoctrinate children with their bs. they know if they dont get them while they are young they will see just how ridiculous christianity is. get over it folks today s atheist are a new breed and we are gonna speak out every time we hear your stupid bs that only makes sense to you. religion is evil and it needs to be seen as such and any one who has the guts to question it needs to know there are other options, there is life with out god and you dont need it to be a good person. suck it up butter cup we are here to stay.
 October 22, 2014 at 3:22pm
Dear Solo Mio;
” Atheists, mind your own business!”
That’s what we have been asking you to do for the last 100 years, Theists…keep it to yourselves !!
As would yours, what’s your point; God Bless America?
October 22, 2014 at 3:03pm
Don’t you dare confuse my logic with the facts!
[-1] October 22, 2014 at 3:00pm
You just wait until your Father gets home!
Then you’re going to get it for sure!
No soup for you!
None for Roscoe either!
 October 22, 2014 at 2:26pm
I usually enjoy the discussions, but sometimes I am overwhelmed by head slamming stupidity being written by theists,and like being in a room full of beer farters, I have to leave the room and air it out for a time.
I compliment you, you seem to have much more patience with the stupid ones than I do.
 October 22, 2014 at 2:21pm
Actually, to keep applying the same methods and keep getting the same results is the definition of insanity, not being a moron. A moron is a label we pin on someone who is impervious to reason because of indoctrination , fear or both; like your typical fundie theist.
It’s a difficult question to answer but I shall try: because there are those of us who no longer have the shackles of religion weighing us down and we eagerly welcome the challenge of waking you lot up to logic and reason.
We may not change your mind, but perhaps the interested reader of these comments will have an “aha” moment. Then it will have been worth it
I get tired of going on you tube and listening to reasoned intelligent, obviously moral tubers denounce your kind as stupid shhitheads all the time, and I would like to help you come around. You are wasting your life, with these superstitious nonsensical thoughts, and enabling you to understand truth; seems to be very Christian of me to do so., in a manner of speaking.
 October 22, 2014 at 1:54pm
Her copy of the bible ( KJV), to make sure I was quoting the verse in the right context. ( That always cracks me up, that the right version needs to be read).
After much hemming and little hawing, she deflected my question by going on about how that was the OT and real Christians only need to follow the NT! That also cracks me up!
At one point in the heated discussion she stared at me in rage, stood up and pointed her finger at me and said ” God shall not be mocked!!! After she sat down, I replied that her god absolutely should be openly mocked, as no such Creator could ever exist.
Eventually we got on to a safer topic and hugged each other until the next time.
I have little hope of changing her mind as she is impervious to listen to reason.
Oh well, I guess we will both pray for each other, and we’ll both know the truth some day.
The key to it is that it's a fun and interesting discussion.
She would be correct to point out that much of the legal system in the OT was for the nation of Israel. She would be correct to point out that Jesus repeated what portions of the moral law were to be followed today. She could have gone to the acts and epistles to show what portions of that law had been set aside, even for the nation of Israel.
Or, she could have simply pointed out that you spend a great deal of energy hating a God you don't believe exists,
lmao awesome story. i think it is thing like that and how atheist unlike any other time in history speak out more. we just wont shut up and be quite while they continue in their delusions and I think that makes them feel like we are attacking them. christians need to learn we have just as much right to voice objection as they do to continue to believe an incredibly ridiculous story. im sure it is our unwillingness to just sit by and be quite as atheist of days gone by that has their panties in such a bunch. my feeling is if your faith is so weak it is harmed in any way my question reason ridicule and mockery then your faith is not all you claim it to be and you should not invest so much of your life into some thing so fragile.