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  • July 13, 2015 at 11:56am

    Tornado311: You are right about there being other worlds with life. Look into The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, they believe that too.

  • [2] July 13, 2015 at 11:34am

    Dallas Cowboys: they fought the Indians, therefore, they are racist
    Oakland Raiders: they find joy in stealing, do we condone criminal activity?
    Minnesota Vikings: they plundered from innocent citizens. Is it OK to have a team name supporting the Democrat Party?
    Miami Dolphins: dolphins have been savagely murdered for a tuna can, can we support this?
    New York Jets: jets are used to kill people in times of war. Do we support war?
    Tennessee Titans: Titans are second class subjects, not as good as the rest. Can we condone a name that shows class separation?
    New York Giants: how dare you make fun of someones size!
    Cleveland Browns: I think the color says it all
    Buffalo Bills: named after a man that was a CEO of his company (ie a thief and capitalist). Down with capitalism!
    Detroit Lions: putting the mighty lion with a dilapidated city like Detroit is on the verge of being “animalist”
    Denver Broncos: isn’t it racist to use a Spanish word meaning “rough” in their name?
    Indianapolis Colts: really, a gun for a name. Where is the uproar?
    Arizona Cardinals: Isn’t a cardinal a religious position? We can’t have religion in sports.
    Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Again with the Democrat supported team name? Isn’t that against campaign laws?
    St Louis Rams: Sexual undertones? Appropriate for kids?
    Kansas City Chiefs: Have to get rid of if Redskins is done away with.

  • July 8, 2015 at 3:19pm

    Tornado311: — “It must be very difficult to determine when statements from the prophet/apostles are from God or his own.”

    Not really. They usually tell you if they are speaking on behalf of God.

    “In short, exaltation is complicated. The process isn’t fully understood even by the so called prophet. You’ll find out when you are dead. — Might be too late to realize–what if it was all wrong. In other words, your strong opinion about exaltation is just as clueless because nobody knows how it all works.”

    You don’t have to know how exaltation works in order for you to be exalted. Just like you don’t have to know how the engine of a car works to drive it. A basic knowledge of how drive the car is enough to get you to your destination. A knowledge of what is needed for exaltation (ie baptism, faithfulness…) is enough. The knowledge of the intricate parts and details will come when you are a God and All-knowing.

    “Bill Mahr’s observation has some validity whether you recognize it or not on the dooms day church talking point.”

    Bill Mahr really has no validity or credibility.

    “Maybe sometime in the future the “Latter-Day Saints” might be dropped from the church name because it doesn’t make since anymore.”

    Why does it not make sense anymore? You know what “Latter-Day-Saints” means right? Although, you are right that it would still be accurate to call it The Church of Jesus Christ, as it is His Church here on the earth.

  • July 7, 2015 at 5:04pm

    Tornado311: I will make this clear, as to what I believe. Man was made in the image of God. So, man looks like God looks: 2 arms, 2 legs a head…down the line. However, Satan did not get a body. Now the question is: Do spirits (prior to getting physical bodies) have the same image our physical bodies do (ie 2 arms, 2 legs, a head… down the line)? Because Satan would be in this image. Does that include genitalia or not? Do I care? Do I need to care? NO! Does impotent only mean “without genitalia” (as you keep interpreting that prior prophets have said Satan is without a penis)? NO. You can have a penis and still be impotent. See, you are too worried about the image of the spirit, when the real focus should be on the physical life we have now and what is to come after it dies. To be exalted, you don’t need to have a spirit sexual anatomy 101 course. Your worries are in the wrong place my friend. You are trying to make controversy over something that has no bearing on our exaltation. Once we are exalted and get to make spirits, then we may need to worry about this. The good news is that as a God, we will know all, therefore, we don’t need to worry about it.

  • July 7, 2015 at 4:21pm

    Tornado311: Of course I believe what past prophets have said when speaking on God’s behalf. What I do not believe in is YOUR INTERPRETATIONS of what past prophets have said, just as you have over exaggerated, inserted your own words in place of theirs and twisted the meanings beyond the context in which they were given. I am not shuffling away from the issue. I stand firm in my belief that YOUR INTERPRETATIONS are wrong. You can quote me any words you want from past prophets, but until you can rightfully understand them and use them in context, you have no credibility with me. Sorry, that’s just how it works with me. And when you use Bill Mahr as a credible reference, your credibility even sinks lower. Who will be next? Bill Nye?

  • July 7, 2015 at 10:21am

    Tornado311: I am not questioning how Gods create new beings. I am not questioning if Gods have genitals. I simply called you out on your immature interpretation of what Elder Packard had said. You are the one that brought erections, woodies and other sexual slang for a penis into this conversation that had nothing to do with it before you introduced it. You can continue to debate eternal creation if you want, but I don’t find a need to. To me, on this earth, it does not do anything for my salvation to know if a male God has a penis or something else, just as it doesn’t matter if a female God has breasts or not. I’m pretty sure the answer is found in the scriptures where God explained how he created man. But do I need to worry about that during my life on earth right now, NO! Don’t get hung up on the things that don’t matter.

  • July 6, 2015 at 5:48pm

    tornado311: “I admit the flaccid , woody part is a funny interpretation and of course it isn’t directly referenced by Packer”

    Thank you for finally being honest and admitting when you are wrong. As I have said before, I only comment on your posts to help correct their inaccuracies. You had laid that comment out there as if it was fact, when in reality it was your “funny interpretation” of the truth.

    “–I agree — common sense. But Mormon doctrine isn’t common sense.”

    It may not be your common sense, because we now know that you have a “funny interpretation” of things. I think this is another one of your “funny interpretations”.

    But once again, I give you credit for admitting you were misinterpreting Elder Packard’s comments. It takes a big man to admit his wrong doings.

  • July 2, 2015 at 1:53pm

    Tornado311: Dude you can really get me laughing. Let’s put the facts out there:

    The exact quote by Elder Packard is: “The adversary is jealous toward all who have power to beget life. Satan cannot beget life; he is impotent. “He seeketh that all men might be miserable like unto himself.” 8 He seeks to degrade the righteous use of the life-giving powers by tempting you into immoral relationships.

    I have read, re-read and re-read this quote and cannot find anywhere the mention of flaccid, woody, erection, orgasm, lacking of male parts. In a sick twisted way, you may take the word “impotent” and out of context make it mean at most the inability to get an erection. But anyone with common sense and an understanding of the English language would be able to tell you that when taken in context, the word impotent is referring to lacking the ability or power to create life. It has nothing to do with sexual arousal, male parts or stamina of the male anatomy. It has everything to do with the fact that only someone with a physical body can create a physical body. Satan never got a physical body, therefore he lacks the power to create life. It’s really not that hard to understand.

    As I have stated before, you think you know what Latter-day Saints believe, but you consistently show that you don’t. I hope that by hearing from a Latter-day Saint, I have helped you correct some of your misconceptions regarding the Church of Jesus Christ.

  • [5] July 2, 2015 at 1:30pm

    Exer351: Give an example of a standard or gospel principle that has changed.

  • [35] July 2, 2015 at 11:07am

    I agree, God’s gospel does not change with the winds of time.

    Why has the country and other religions not looked at the real issues like Utah and the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints? The LGBT crowd is clamoring for “same rights” and just changing the definition of marriage will not do that. There is a way to appease both, maintain the definition of marriage and protect the rights of gay couples. See the “Utah Compromise”:

    See what happens when two conflicting groups get together and actually have civil discussions. The LDS Church has not compromised its belief that marriage is only between a man and a woman, while still maintaining that gay couples can chose to go against God’s will if they choose. And the LGBT couples can still get the same rights they are fighting for without having to change the definition of marriage. Wow, brilliant.

    The only problem? Satan wants to destroy the sacredness of marriage and in the process, destroy the family. So will this compromise work? It should, unless LGBT activist are just puppets for Satan.

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  • [32] July 2, 2015 at 10:51am

    “That is JUST the PRICE for them to come into America”

    Wait, So we are OK with them being raped as long as it is just a fee to cross the border?

    I find that comment to be more despicable than anything Trump said.

    What if someone told Lemon that slavery was just the price for blacks to come to America? Can you imagine the outrage it would and should get? But putting this justifiable act on the backs of Hispanics is OK, because it can further his agenda is reprehensible.

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  • July 1, 2015 at 2:55pm

    Tornado311: Look up the definition of impotent. Once again you like to pick and choose your definitions and your opinions as fact. There was never any mention of an erection and it is obviously clear that use of the word impotent did not refer to “a limpy” as you have stated. One must be able to understand the context in which words are used, to help understand the meaning of the word used (as many words can be used in many ways). This goes to show that you have a hard time understanding context, therefore you have no credibility on anything that requires reading. As proven by your inaccurate, misinterpreted and misunderstood posts.

  • June 30, 2015 at 8:13pm

    Tornado311: You state “Those who hold beliefs wildly different from my own did not choose those beliefs. They were indoctrinated, or misled, or just didn’t have the alternatives sources available to analyze the “rest of the story” and make an educated decision in what they want to believe currently”

    Ironic thing is that you could be the one that was indoctrinated, or mislead, or just didn’t have the alternative sources available to analyze the “rest of the story” and make an educated decision. I’m just saying we both believe something different, either one of us is right and the other wrong or both of us are wrong, because we can’t both be right. There is a chance you could be the one that’s wrong. What if?

    You: “I have yet to see anything that you’ve proven to be common sense and truthful or winning the argument about Jesus and those that lie in his name about what he said.”

    I have not tried to prove anything to you. I don’t have to. I believe what I believe because of things that have happened in my life. I don’t have to have your blessing to verify my beliefs. I am not out to convert you. When someone tries to pass lies as fact, I like to call them out.

  • June 30, 2015 at 4:57pm

    Tornado311: I will agree with you that there are some who use God’s name to wreak havoc, just as there are some good Atheists or non-theists.

  • June 30, 2015 at 4:44pm

    Tornado311: I have to laugh at your constant hypocrisy! You got after bmeece500 and said the following “Looks at the “bmeece500 ” comments. The guy is “praying for me” but yet he almost sounds excited for my impending demise in the lake of fire because I must not have the truth”

    Then you turn around and write: “I’m gonna have a good time watching the lawsuits and possible tax exempt status for many religious institutions get yanked because of the current Gay crusade in America.

    BYU and the church is in the crosshairs.”

    It’s OK for you to hope for others misfortune, but it is appalling that someone else may be hoping for yours?

    This is why I can’t even respond to most of your posts, they have no substance. You do not show any credibility. I’m sure you are a great guy, have a good family and have a strong conviction of what you believe. Unfortunately, I can tell you first hand that what you think others believe is not usually what they really believe. You can learn a lot from the internet, unfortunately, there is alot of wrong and misleading information out there about everything and anything.

    I really do enjoy reading your posts, as they strengthen my belief that common sense and reason are truly on my side. The decisions I have made in my life and the religion I have chosen to follow make sense for me. My life has been blessed by my faith. My faith has made me a better person. I have morals. I have ethics. I love God, Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit.

  • June 30, 2015 at 11:03am

    Tornado311: My lack of commentary on your posts was because they do not warrant any response. They are the same ‘cut and paste’ lies every anti-God/anti-Mormon troll puts out there without any foundation. My purpose in responding to your initial post was to reveal that you are not the lamb you were portraying to be, rather you are a wolf that is looking for trouble.

    Once again, in your own words “LEARN TO EMBRACE THOSE THAT THINK DIFFERENTLY THAN YOU and ALSO happen to raise good families.” Do you really believe in this statement you made?

    If you don’t believe in God, fine. You don’t have to believe in God for me to respect you. You don’t have to believe in God to be a good person. You don’t have to believe in God to raise a good family. You don’t have to believe in God to respect others belief in God. My only concern is that most people that say they don’t believe in God, say it because they don’t want the responsibility of doing what is right all the time. If God does not exist there is no punishment for breaking “The Commandments”, I can lie, I can steal, I can murder, I can be an adulterer. There is no accountability. Even if God truly did not exist, the mere belief that a God does exist makes for a better society.

  • [2] June 29, 2015 at 5:59pm

    If they really wanted to make a statement, they would ditch the Apprentice too. But that would hurt them too much. They only want it too look like they have taken action.

  • [2] June 29, 2015 at 5:08pm

    Tornado311: “Keep believing in the bible. You are nice people. Just practice your beliefs with others that think the same way. Not push it on the rest of feel sorry for us in anyway.

    Teach what you preach. You sounded all nice until I pointed out your hypocrisy, then the claws came out. If you want others to embrace your different beliefs, then you too must embrace their right to their beliefs without trying to push yours on them. If you want civility, give civility. If you want respect, give respect. If you want to force your beliefs on others, don’t start crying when they fight back.

  • June 29, 2015 at 3:16pm

    Tornado311: “Keep believing in the bible. You are nice people. Just practice your beliefs with others that think the same way. Not push it on the rest of feel sorry for us in anyway.
    LEARN TO EMBRACE THOSE THAT THINK DIFFERENTLY THAN YOU and ALSO happen to raise good families. I think belief in a glorified zombie stinks.”

    Such hypocrisy you speak. We recently had 50+ post discussion on another article ( in which you spent most of the time bashing Joseph Smith as a liar and the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints as a fraud and even called my family a liar. Then you dare come here and ask others to not attack you and your beliefs??????

  • [2] June 29, 2015 at 1:05pm

    Tornado311: They have actually been talking about the saving power of Jesus since the beginning of time. Just because you don’t believe in Him, does not mean He did and does not exist. Nor does it mean that one must show YOU proof before it can be spoken as a factual statement. One that requires proof, really lacks the ability to think on their own. One could easily ask you to PROVE no one has been saved.

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