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SacredHonor1776

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  • September 19, 2014 at 11:58pm

    Nilsion actually many who voted yes wanted to join the EU, directly. It was the far left and Scottish labour who wanted to separate..

    While conservatives wanted to remain together, and keep some autonomy from the EU…

  • September 19, 2014 at 11:56pm

    The leftist Labour and far left were promising gifts from the treasury if they got the Yes votes, and separation. WHo knows where they would have gotten the money to give those entitlements away. Except some were hoping they would directly join with the EU, and get benefits through them..

    Conservatives really didn’t want anything, and they were choosing to say no, and remain with the UK.

  • September 19, 2014 at 11:53pm

    No next time they ‘ll just join the EU and demand crumbs from them…

    The conservatives who didn’t want entitlements were the ones who voted ‘no’.

  • September 19, 2014 at 11:51pm

    Bubba, I know what you mean :(

  • September 19, 2014 at 4:23pm

    The leftists over here would have been happy either way.

    If the European Scotish left had gotten their “Yays” and split. Then the leftists over here would be jumping up and down stating it was a referendum against the conservative government by the left.

    If they lost the ‘no’ vote they’ll just argue its dependence on ‘big government’.

    The real truth is that conservative right in Scottland pushed the no vote, because they are largely anti-EU, and don’t want to be forced to live in an even more progressive collectivist Scotland. Many were arguing they’d bail out and move to England since it would offer them more freedom.

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  • [1] September 19, 2014 at 4:19pm

    Tango for years the progressives have been trying to get the American public to turn to the European system… Insidious isn’it it?

  • September 19, 2014 at 4:17pm

    Is Texas trying to be a new ‘giveme entitlement’ leftist utopia? That would then want the US to bail them out when their nation collapsed?

    Does anyone care about the Scots who believed they had more freedom remaining with the UK than being stuck in a country that was more socialist than even the English?

    Conservatives voted ‘no’ because there was strength in numbers with more conservatives in a United Kingdom than a divided one.

    English Conservatives would have loved to see Scottland go if just to get rid of the Scottish Labour’s control.

  • [1] September 19, 2014 at 2:21pm

    Lefties in Scotland were voting yes. The conservatives were voting no.

  • [1] September 19, 2014 at 2:20pm

    They didn’t really want true independence, otherwise they wouldn’t have had plans to join into the EU… Just the Sottish left/Labour wanting more entitlements.

    Scottish Conservatives voted to remain with the UK, and maintain some autonomy.

  • September 19, 2014 at 2:17pm

    So you are accusing the conservatives of committing fraud? So typical that left would attack the right accusing them of fraud (although its not uncommon for right to accuse left of fraud either).

    It was Scottish conservatives that supported staying in the UK.

    “Scottish Conservative leader Ruth Davidson told the BBC she was confident the “silent majority” of Scots would deliver a No victory, but the Yes campaign said it was too early to predict the outcome.”

    It was the left and Scottish Labour who were voting to leave so they could join directly with the EU… Leave one collectivist to join another larger collectivist government. They weren’t getting enough entitlements, so they hoped they could get more from the EU.

  • [1] September 19, 2014 at 2:12pm

    Not really. I doubt Wallace would have been support of the leftist separatists who just wanted to trade one “oppressive” government for another (a Scottish Socialist/Labour government or the EU).

    it was the conservatives who voted to remain in the UK, since they had a better chance at ‘freedom’ as they saw it. It was either that or leave Scotland and live in the UK.

  • [2] September 19, 2014 at 2:02pm

    Tango well said… When countries speak of ‘independence’ over in Europe. It’s more about “who gets to control the collectivism”. Shift the power from one collectivist to another collectivist.

    In the case of Scotland it was to vote yes to leave, to switch to either their own collectivist government, or join up with the bigger collectivist EU.

    Conservatives Scots voted yes to remain with the UK, because it was a lesser of the evils. They didn’t want to go along with the ride into a even more progressive collectivist ‘utopia’. Many were saying they would become English citizens if Scots chose to go the ultra leftist route.

  • [1] September 19, 2014 at 1:31pm

    It was the conservatives that supported unity, while the entitlement left wanted out so they could join the EU and get more entitlements.

    “Scottish Conservative leader Ruth Davidson told the BBC she was confident the “silent majority” of Scots would deliver a No victory, but the Yes campaign said it was too early to predict the outcome.”

  • September 19, 2014 at 1:29pm

    From the above article. Conservatives supported the Union. The leftists supported separation.

    “Scottish Conservative leader Ruth Davidson told the BBC she was confident the “silent majority” of Scots would deliver a No victory, but the Yes campaign said it was too early to predict the outcome.”

  • September 19, 2014 at 1:28pm

    The ones who supported the split were also big government supporters, from the Scottish Left. They just happened to support joining the EU for their entitlements.

    The Conservative Scots wanted to remain in England and keep it stronger.

    “Scottish Conservative leader Ruth Davidson told the BBC she was confident the “silent majority” of Scots would deliver a No victory, but the Yes campaign said it was too early to predict the outcome.”

    Many English conservatives were rooting for the Yes vote to destroy the liberal Labour party in England. Since most of the Labour votes come from Scotland.

  • September 19, 2014 at 1:26pm

    actually there are collectivists on both sides.

    The ones fighting for independence were the far left and Scottish Labour. THey were hoping to get into the EU gravy train as well. Change one master for another.

    It was the right voting for remaining in the Union.

    ““Scottish Conservative leader Ruth Davidson told the BBC she was confident the “silent majority” of Scots would deliver a No victory, but the Yes campaign said it was too early to predict the outcome.””

  • September 19, 2014 at 1:24pm

    “Scottish Conservative leader Ruth Davidson told the BBC she was confident the “silent majority” of Scots would deliver a No victory, but the Yes campaign said it was too early to predict the outcome.”

  • September 19, 2014 at 1:24pm

    It’s really the left accusing the right of fraud… Same ol same ol?

  • [1] September 19, 2014 at 1:22pm

    From the above article, Conservatives were supporting the No vote.
    ““Scottish Conservative leader Ruth Davidson told the BBC she was confident the “silent majority” of Scots would deliver a No victory, but the Yes campaign said it was too early to predict the outcome.””

  • [1] September 19, 2014 at 1:20pm

    Or perhaps CA was voting to secede, so that it can join the NAFTA (or some North American EU equivalent) or the United Nations, and promote a one world socialist order :p…. Gain entitlements from the world government….

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