User Profile: scarebear83

scarebear83

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  • July 15, 2014 at 2:23pm

    Why would I want to leave His church and go to a church that does not have His name? It would be like wanting to go to Dairy Queen but instead going to McDonald’s thinking the menu is going to be the same. If a person actually read the Bible they would see nothing that the Catholic church does can be found anywhere in the pages of the Bible. The rosary, popes, praying to Mary, all of that was added by man well after the first century.

    I know what the rest of the world claims is our history. That we were started by Alexander Campbell and Barton W. Stone. Trust me I’ve delved into the history of the churches of Christ. The thing is they aren’t the founders of the church, they just wanted to get back to biblical principles, to restore the New Testament church. But here’s the thing, I know of a congregation here in my home county that was considered a church of Christ way before the restoration movement. There are even traces of the church in the 1600′s (and before) in England, historical documents of men teaching baptism for the remission of sins etc. the very same things the churches of Christ teach today. So we were not started by infallible men. We were started by Christ and it is His examples and those of which He gave authority through the Holy and inspired word that we follow.

  • July 15, 2014 at 1:53pm

    I never said they were part of Christ’s body. Yes, they have the name on the outside but that’s it. They have the ability to repent and turn to truth. I was just trying to be honest and say there are some amongst our ranks who claim to be a part of the Lord’s church but are not. That does not mean, however, all churches of Christ are wishy washy and teach what they feel like. There are some good congregations out there that are unwavering in what the Bible teaches. But no, those who teach error are church of Christ in name only. I wish it weren’t so but we are all human. I mean look at the church at Corinth. They were allowing things that shouldn’t have been but they were taught of their error and that is something those who are in the truth should help out with some of the wavering congregations.

    The role of the elders is not to make church doctrine but rather to watch over the sheep and to make decisions that are best for the congregation based upon their knowledge of the Bible (that’s why 1 Tim. 2 states they must meet certain qualifications, one of them being that they are older and not a novice at Biblical understanding). If someone is coming in and teaching say that lying is ok then the elders are the ones who need to be aware of the problem and try to help fix it.

  • July 12, 2014 at 4:57am

    Re-read my comment. I didn’t say that some teach divorce and that we ALL teach the Bible, I was alluding that there are some congregations that teach error and they need to be taught the truth but we have no central headquarters that tell every single congregation what to teach. Each congregation stands on its own and it’s up to the elders of that congregation to make sure truth is being taught. However, most of the churches of Christ do teach the same things.

    Your KJV and latin vulgate questions are a whole other ballgame for me, I’m afraid I can’t answer them because I’m not familiar with the LV.

    Sure. Christ, A.D. 33 on the day of Pentecost, so that all could worship the Lord and be a part of His body. I know those are really simple answers but that’s the truth. It is Christ’s church (body) in which He is the head hence why we call ourselves the church of Christ because it’s His. He purchased it with His own blood which is why it perplexes me that anyone would want to call a church with a manmade name but it makes sense since they are manmade churches with manmade doctrines.

  • [2] July 11, 2014 at 2:13pm

    I agree, either atheist or agnostic. Usually this crowd seems to be sympathetic towards Islam (at least the ones who support Obama). I have no clue why that is but I honestly do not believe he is muslim or Christian.

  • July 8, 2014 at 4:50pm

    Hey Jimbo, I didn’t get a chance to respond to you in the other article (I didn’t read it until yesterday) but thought I should let you know it’s “sister” scare bear ;)

  • July 8, 2014 at 1:18pm

    I guess the Blaze got rid of being able to message others but I just wanted to let you know that I responded to your post about the churches of Christ in the methodist preacher story. I’m sorry I didn’t see it until yesterday.

    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/06/25/will-gay-marriage-tear-this-denomination-apart-pastor-who-presided-over-gay-sons-wedding-is-reinstated/

  • [1] July 7, 2014 at 3:34pm

    (Cont’d) You asked why did the apostles command them to do things etc. First of all Jesus gave the apostles the authority to bind or loose. Second of all the church was just starting out so there needed to be some organization (considering the Bible was not completed by then). But all that was temporary as we see that we have no apostles living today and we have the completed Word of God (1 Tim. 3:16-17).

    Again Paul had the authority given to him by Christ but that does not mean Paul was the head of the church. All the apostles had authority not just him. But again that was for building the church in its infancy. You don’t just start an organization and then say, ok you’re on your own! There needs to be some structure set up before one can go on their own (there needs to be rules/laws hence when the Bible was completed there was no need for that structure anymore). That’s why the importance of 1 Timothy 2 in the discussion of elders because they were going to be the ones to watch over the individual congregations.

  • [1] July 7, 2014 at 3:12pm

    snooop1e- Sorry I didn’t see your post until now.

    Each congregation is shepherded by 2 or more men called elders (bishops, overseers, pastors). The churches adhere to 1 Timothy 2 on that.

    The plan of salvation comes from numerous passages. There is God’s part in which He loved man so much that He gave Christ to die for us. He gave us scripture (Romans 1:16; 2 Tim. 3:16-17). We must hear the word (Rom. 10:17) Believe (Heb. 11:6; John 20:31) Repent of our sins (Luke 13:3, Acts 17:30) Confess faith in Christ (Rom. 10:10; Matt. 10:32) and be baptized for the remission of sins (Gal.3:27, Mark 16:16, Acts 2:38, 1 Peter 3:20-21) and then remain faithful unto death (Rev. 2:10).

    Nobody is “required” to have the same believes but most of us believe in the same things based on the Bible. Granted there are congregations out there that believe divorce is ok for any reason or they have introduced instrumental music into worship but instead of having a headquarters force them into beliefs we simply just do not attend worship at those places and try to talk with people that may go there and convince them on what the Bible says about those matters.

    A person will know what the churches of Christ teach are true if it comes straight from the Bible. We all are generally united by Biblical teachings with Jesus Christ being our head and heaven being our headquarters.

  • [2] June 25, 2014 at 3:17pm

    Amen! “We are undenominational and have no central headquarters or president. The head of the church is none other than Jesus Christ himself (Ephesians 1:22-23).”

    Denominational creeds were made by man and can change over time as we see with this article but God’s word never changes. The Bible should always be our guide, not man’s word. Get rid of the creeds, committees, presidents etc. and get back to the basics.

  • June 12, 2014 at 2:31pm

    They’re not denied those rights. I don’t see what you’re trying to say. What specific rights are they being denied?

  • [1] June 11, 2014 at 4:38pm

    What freedoms are they denied? 1st amendment? 2nd? Which one(s)?

  • [3] June 11, 2014 at 1:39pm

    It’s ok for Christians to believe as they wish as long as they sit down, shut up, quit their whining and keep their beliefs and practices in the privacy of their own home or in the church building. Yet if you’re an atheist you can speak your beliefs in the public and that’s ok. A Christian is not allowed to be a Christian at their job or at school but once an atheist speaks up about their beliefs it’s considered free speech. There may not be a physical war on Christianity but there’s a thought war going on. You can be a Christian as long as you’re not one in public. I’d like to see an atheist try to stop being an atheist at their work, I mean, Christians have to check their beliefs at the door right? They are demanded to serve against their beliefs because they’re in public so why don’t atheists check their beliefs at the door too?

    Regardless of what you’d like to think or disbelieve there is undeniable proof that Christianity’s beliefs are under attack. You don’t believe it’s right for gays to get married? Too bad. Sit down, shut up and serve them their cake. You don’t think it’s right to cover someone else’s sex habits? Too bad. Sit down, shut up and give them their birth control. You don’t think it’s right for a woman to “choose?” Too bad. Sit down, shut up and let her abort that little useless baby, I mean, clump of cells.

    Either we have freedom of religion and the ability to practice our beliefs (when and wherever) or we have to “sit down and

  • [26] June 3, 2014 at 1:41pm

    God’s word isn’t up for a vote. You can try to change things all you want but voting on it won’t change His words.

  • [2] May 30, 2014 at 1:22pm

    Yes, because we need to be teaching a 14 yr. old that sex outside of marriage is good and alright as long as you have a condom…. Passing out condoms tells kids to go wild and have “safe” sex which in turn does not show self control. Allow freedom of religion in the schools and kids will start thinking twice about sex and hopefully exert self control.

  • [1] May 22, 2014 at 12:49pm

    I have yet to hear a logical reason for it. All I hear is emotional rants about how denying someone ‘love’ is wrong. No one is denying them anything. They can be with who they want. It doesn’t affect straight marriages either however many times people will say it. The problem is that it will affect society as a whole. Once you go down the rabbit hole it opens it up for all sorts of possibilities. For instances in Colorado, they’ve legalized recreational pot so what’s to stop them from opening the doors to legalizing meth? Allowing people to make that stuff in their own homes? The same with gay marriage, once you allow it who is to stop from saying a 30 yr old man can’t marry a 15 yr old girl? Or a woman can marry her toilet? Once you open the door to one thing you have to start opening the door to all. That’s the problem with being “open minded.” Your mind is so open that the your brains fall out.

  • April 8, 2014 at 4:31pm

    Lucretius, appeal to authority and bandwagon fallacies…. I would suggest looking up Ignaz Semmelweis and his struggle against the majority in the medical field. He died without knowing his contribution to the medical world. Simply put, just because a majority of learned people say so doesn’t make it true.

  • March 28, 2014 at 1:36pm

    Cont’d- If you read Acts 2:38 Peter tells them to repent AND be baptized FOR the remission of sins. Drop down to verse 41 Those who gladly received his word were baptized and 3,000 souls were added to them, drop down to verse 47 the Lord added to the church daily those who were being saved. Baptism is not a charitable deed we do or an act we decided will get us to heaven it is a command given by God in that once we are baptized He adds us to His church. He was the one who came up with it, not us. We are simply following His command to do it.

    Faith is a faith that works. It doesn’t start at the time we’re saved, it works when we first start to believe on to our death if we remain faithful. Hebrews 11 and James 2 gives us good examples of faith and what it does. By faith we are moved to become children of God by faith we know and we do. Don’t get me wrong, I know I can’t get to heaven on my own, I need the blood of Christ I know I need God’s grace. I can offer you a free gift but if you don’t take the effort to either get up from the chair or to extend your arms then how will you get the free gift?

    Yes, all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God but that doesn’t mean we are without the ability to seek God. Romans is often used to show that but if you dig deeper it’s talking about those who refused to seek God not that we can’t. Heb. 11:6 God is a rewarder of those who diligently seek Him.

  • March 28, 2014 at 1:16pm

    Cont’d- You also stated that those in the O.T. were not baptized… well I think it’s a misunderstanding of what baptism really and truly stands for. Gal. 3:27 and Romans 6:1-11 state exactly what it’s for. We are buried with Christ and we put on Christ. So understanding that, then it would be difficult for a person under the law of Moses to be baptized because Christ had not yet come into the world much less died and was raised and that’s what baptism symbolizes. However, it is an interesting note that the children of Israel were somewhat baptized (1 Cor. 10:2). They passed through the waters and when the Egyptians chased after they were washed away in the water (sins washed away).

    Acts 22:16 Is not speaking about a verbal calling and you’re saved. It implies that by being baptized we are doing exactly that, calling on the name of the Lord.

    Ephesians 2:10 I notice that people tend to stop just before this verse. If you read it you’ll notice we are His workmanship created for good works. When a person treats baptism as an outward showing then they turn it into a boastful thing (Look at me I’m baptized, I’m a believer!) But if one views it as a necessity towards salvation then it doesn’t matter who is there or what time of the day, but that you obeyed God and through baptism He adds you to the church…

  • March 28, 2014 at 12:51pm

    Summermeadow, sorry it took me a while to get back to you, I’ve been busy.

    Let me ask you, can you baptize yourself? Or do you need help in being immersed? If you look at baptism you really aren’t doing the work, someone else is (A dead person cannot bury themselves).

    You say that faith is not a work but I can’t understand how it can’t be, it’s a verb, it is something you yourself do unless you’re saying that God gives you faith and He does everything so you don’t have to (that would include feeding the poor spreading the gospel etc.). But we know that doesn’t happen. Jesus commanded His apostles to go and baptize people in the great commission… why would He tell His apostles to go do something they couldn’t fulfill?

    Being obedient to God does in no way negate what Christ did on the cross. Just because Christ died on the cross is by no means a free ticket to say we don’t do anything to be saved. Noah found grace in the eyes of the Lord but was he saved from the sinful world before or after the flood? I would hope you’d say after because the sinful world was not washed away until the flood. Yes, I know he was saved from physical harm but why use Noah’s event in 1 Peter 3:20-21 as a comparative illustration to baptism if baptism doesn’t save us? (If you read verse 21 it states implicitly that baptism doth also now save us).

  • March 20, 2014 at 4:46pm

    Cont’d: You also showed Cornelius’ household as proof of a Spirit baptism then they were baptized afterward as an obedience that followed.

    A) I’m slightly confused, if a person is obedient then they will be rewarded but if they are disobedient then they will not. So if water baptism is an act of obedience, if a person doesn’t do it then what’s the opposite of obedient? Will a person who is that go to heaven?

    B) You missed the part that Peter was still speaking… granted there may have been a person or two who “got it” before the sermon was over but all those who were there the Holy Spirit fell upon them. There may have been one or two that still hadn’t believed yet. So we see the Holy Spirit falling upon them before they had a chance to believe.

    C ) Peter gave orders for them to be baptized in verse 48. If baptism isn’t essential towards salvation why order them to be baptized? Why didn’t he just tell them, “You’ve been baptized by the Spirit and now you are saved.” Because Peter had the authority to give the command (by Jesus) and we see that it was immediately after the event. All instances of baptism in Acts were always immediate, not days or weeks later.

    D) We see that this “baptism” was a means to show that the Gentiles were able to receive the gospel message just like the Jews (vs 45) not that it’s an indicator that we are saved by this way… unless you were able to speak in tongues and prophecy immediately afterward even then it’s not a

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