Skippy, you’ve posted lots of words – like three 1000 word posts – to excuse the fact that if you were walking home, and someone was following you for no reason, that you’d run away and hide under your mother’s skirt. You’d feel threatened if someone was obviously following you, stalking you, for no reason you could perceive, while you were walking home.
Skippy, go look in a mirror, and ask yourself how you’d feel if you were walking home from the store (I know, you drive everywhere so it’s hard to imagine) and someone, some stranger, was obliviously following you. Look in the mirror again, and ask yourself what you’d think the intentions of this person following your were. No extrasensory perception needed, just your experience in life. Would you imagine this person was a good, decent person trying to help the neighborhood? Or would you think they had bad intentions? Look again in the mirror!
Look again and ask yourself what you’d do, and try, for once, to be honest with yourself. You’d run. Be honest. You’d wish you had that big gun that makes you so macho. But you don’t so you’d run.
Well Trayvon, didn’t have that big thang that gives you courage. He had skittles, So he circled around and jumped the guy, something you lack the courage to do, ever. So of course you support Zimmerman. Because you’re a sissy, and can’t imagine going after someone who is threatening you. Not without your big, tough thang. Baby.
July 10, 2013 at 3:57pm
Why didn’t Zimmerman testify? Same reason OJ Simpson didn’t?
July 10, 2013 at 2:55pm
You know this is ridiculous don’t you? Finding offensive tweets on any subject whatsoever? And claiming that those tweets represent the beliefs of one group or another?
You guys aren’t that stupid, I know that. Do you imagine that there aren’t equally offensive tweets on other subjects from the right? Of course there are and you know that.
Don’t take the bate. It just makes you look, like, seriously stupid. Really. I’m being honest with you here. Don’t take the troll bate.
July 10, 2013 at 2:47pm
Now everyone acknowledges the fact is that Zimmerman did kill someone by shooting him at point blank range in the chest. Nor is there in dispute that Trayvon was walking home from a store, had committed no crime and no intention of committing a crime. Nor is there any dispute that Trayvon knew he was being followed. I doubt few will dispute that, if put are able to put yourself into Trayvon’s shoes, you’d realize he felt threatened. You would too right? You’re walking home and somebody is following you? You’d feel threatened too wouldn’t you? You’d think this guy wanted to rob you or just beat the crap out of you because of your looks. I imagine that’s what it’s like growing up in the hood.
The problem with the posters here is that you know for a fact how you’d react – you’d run away right? You’d get out of Dodge as quickly as possible. You’d call 911. But Trayvon grew up in a different environment. In the world Trayvon knew you’d have to be some kind of chickens- to run away or expect help from the cops.
There is no doubt in my mind that Trayvon circled around and got the jump on this wanna be cop who was stalking him for no reason evident to Trayvon. You wouldn’t do that because you’re a sissy, you’d be too skeered. But Trayvon wasn’t you. He was living according to the law of the street.
Anyway, so he’s dead now, and the wanna be cop will get off. To get back on topic, this lawyer is just looking for grounds to appeal. Nothin
There’s a lot of corruption and illegality there and a lot of convictions. Reagan blew up the deficit, increased taxes 19 times, and had one of the most corrupt Presidencies in US history. And, naturally, he’s the hero of the right wing. They remind him of their grandfather or godfather I guess.
Now that’s the reality of corruption, selling arms to terrorists, committing felonies and the most convictions of upper level members of an administration in US history. But if you want fantasy, check out this twitter thang! And the IRS thang.
July 7, 2013 at 2:19pm
I see you’re point, but I disagree. For example cars are dangerous and kill lots of people. Do we ban them? Heck no!
But, let’s require everyone who drives a car to be of a certain age, demonstrate proficiency before they are legally able to drive, and to require that they carry insurance. Just like we do with guns that kill lots of people too.
Yes, planes are dangerous, but I suggest the FAA require routine aircraft maintenance, establish firm rules about the qualifications of those who can fly aircraft and so on. The industry should be very heavily regulated to eliminate as many deaths as possible, like with cars.
Guns though? Heck no. If a terrorist or crazy person wants to buy a gun and kill 50 people, they have that right, under the Second Amendment of the United States Constitution of America, the greatest nation on Earth. I, personally, will lay down my life to ensure that any felon, any crazy person, any pervert, any terrorist is able to buy a gun from a straw purchaser in the parking lot in front of a gun show. Guns, God and country!
July 7, 2013 at 1:42pm
As you read here a couple of weeks ago, President Obama relaxed FAA flight rules requirements under pressure from the airline owners who were losing money under those very strict regulations, although Carney said it was the result of the sequester championed by Republicans, and that pressure from the airlines – United, American and China Air for the most part – had nothing to do with the decision. Whatever the reason, the regulations were relaxed.
Well, we have seen the results. I’m glad the death tole was as low as it was. But it points out one very relevant Biblical phrase: As ye sow, so shall ye reap.
July 7, 2013 at 12:16pm
Well, first of all Cruz can’t be President because he wasn’t born in this country or born to American parents. I don’t even know that he’s a legal US citizen. Where’s his birth certificate? Has he shown that? As far as I know his parents were illegal immigrants: they entered the country illegally as far as I know and to this day are here illegally. Correct me if I’m wrong!
Sadly, Cruz is using his brains to carry the torch of the far right, even to the point of offending his fellow Republicans. He’s just a smarter version of Allen West. To bad – the wasted brains. He may have a reliable vote in his district but if he ever does a thing besides make news on right wing websites for his comments and obstructionism, I’ll be surprised.
The day one single piece of legislation passes that Cruz proposes or even only sponsors, I’ll apologize to each and every one of you.
He’s the last thing the Republican party needs – another fringe right winger that prevents Republicans from even passing their own bills in the House, let alone helping the US government as a whole become less dysfunctional.
July 6, 2013 at 2:13pm
Unfortunately, you guys have all missed the point of this thread. First of all Ted Cruz is NOT an American citizen having been born in Canada and without American parents. Second, despite what Cruz says his roots are in Cuba and Canada, two socialist countries. Like Obama no matter what he says, he’s not a genuine American and his sympathies lie with the socialist he and his parents were born to, like Obama and Kenya and stuff.
July 6, 2013 at 1:57pm
Thanks Spec and frust@ted for your comments. As I said there’s lots of ambiguous evidence in this case. With the regard to what happened during the actual confrontation there are really no hard facts. Zimmerman had some minor injuries on the back of his head as though he was knocked to the ground, and the other guy was shot dead. Other details aren’t too clear or have been disputed.
To me this is kind of a Rorschach test: presented with an ambiguous picture, what do people make of it? And what does that say about the person making the interpretation?
I don’t know happened. I don’t know details that would make it clear who was at fault; nobody does.
But one thing I’m sure of is that Trayvon never thought, “Oh, this guy following me is just trying to protect the neighborhood and I look suspicious. So I’d better run away.” No, I’m sure he thought Zimmerman, whatever he was doing, was up to no good as far as he, Trayvon, was concerned. That’s where the culture part comes in.
Maybe because you personally would run away and hide, but that’s not the world Trayvon grew up in. Honestly, I imagine he did circle around and get the jump on Zimmerman. And got killed.
I thinks it’s all tragic. But what’s amazing to me is that no one can here can put themselves in Trayvon’s shoes, imagine they were being followed by someone who seemed intent on doing them harm. And then doing what he felt like he had to do to defend himself.
July 6, 2013 at 1:19pm
I’d like to apologize to all my frenemies – I’m on the road and jet lagged. But my mission to inform and enlighten continues nonetheless! I have my faults, but not being selfless is not among them.
Gyro, sorry, you’re wrong. Actually I get paid by right wing websites.
SpeakSoftlyAndCarry, glad you got a laugh. I aim to please! I think the text abbreviation “ROFL” is out of fashion though.
MAX, I promise to try harder! At least your criticism was constructive, something I appreciate.
July 5, 2013 at 4:03pm
This is a transparent attempt to deflect attention from all deaths that occurred to our embassies and diplomatic facilities that occurred during the Bush and Reagan administrations. But nobody can pretend that the hundreds of deaths that happened under those administrations didn’t happen. The Bengazi story lost steam months ago, especially given how insignificant it is compared to what happened during the Bush and Reagan administration. The difference is that during those administrations, Americans rallied behind there own.
These days though, the right believes that the enemy is not the terrorists whom they support at every point and cheer on so long as there is an anti-Obama angle Their belief is that the bad guys are not the terrorists, but Obama. Oh well, so much for patriotism. I miss the days when the bad guys were the terrorists, the guys, who, unlike during the previous administration, President Obama has been killing since he came into office. But now the terrorist are the good guys, and the terrorist actions they commit are somehow, someway, not their bad, they are instead, somehow, through some incredible perversion of logic, the fault of the administration.
July 5, 2013 at 1:06pm
Maybe, if you’d like to believe that I guess. Or maybe he just got shot and died slowly.
The good news? Zimmerman will probably get off with a hung jury. And the other good news is the Zimmerman will never become a cop and won’t likely pretend to be one anymore, and for sure won’t kill anybody else.
July 5, 2013 at 12:38pm
You know, the evidence in this case is ambiguous. The only real facts are that Zimmerman was trying to be to be a cop, stalked Trayvon despite being told by real cops not to. We also know that Trayvon knew he was being followed and felt threatened, maybe thought he was about to be robbed or killed.
Then it gets murky as far as what happened up until the point when an unarmed man was shot dead at point blank range by a guy with a loaded gun he was carrying around with a round in the chamber.
A Martian reading the posts here would certainly conclude several things. A) that you’re inclined to believe anything that supports what the the living guy says, despite his knowledge of exactly what to say to seem innocent given his education and background talking to cops, and B) that the only reason you’re inclined think that way is because you’ve got a prejudice against people who wear hoodies and assume they are probably guilty and, C) that if you were being stalked by a creepy guy, you’d run and hide under you mother’s skirt, rather than turn and confront the stalker.
The bias in favor of Zimmerman based on the evidence is just cultural that’s all.
On the last point it’s basically a difference in culture. You’d run and hide if some creep was following you. Be honest with yourself. That’s your culture. But in Trayvon’s culture, you turn and confront your aggressor rather than running and hiding.
July 5, 2013 at 12:08pm
This pastor was establishing his dominance over his congregation. He showed he was willing to publicly shame people in public with any and all personal knowledge he had of them, threaten to leave that church, and explaining the reasons they must be subservient to him.
Just like most Mullahs and their congregations are terrorists and willing to dispatch you and everybody without a thought, this pastor represents what most, if not all Christian pastors all like, including those at the Westboro Baptist Church. God and the Christian Bible has given Christian pastors the obligation to demand absolute fealty and subservience to their leader in Christ who is the man who stands between them and eternal suffering, eternal damnation, when those same people could live in a state of eternal bliss until the end of time.
He takes his job seriously. Any “pastor” who doesn’t hold the same iron grip over his congregation is not a true Christian, just as any Islamist who doesn’t want to kill everybody isn’t a true follower of Islam. And this man is the stout defender of one side.
July 4, 2013 at 6:16pm
I know that you guys know I’m on the up and up. I tell it straight and I give you the truth. And I’m tellin’ ya, this is muckraking yellow journalism at its worst. Honestly I don’t know if the Secretary of State was on a boat or in a hotel or at home.
George Bush spent half his two terms either in Crawford or Camp David. Were you outraged that Bush was in Crawford when Americans were invading and dying in Iraq? No right wingers ever criticized that.
Because I’m a straight up guy, I’ll give it to you honest like. When Presidents like George Bush, or Secretaries of State like John Kerry go on vacation, they have a phone available to discuss issues with whomever. I think the slam (the itty bitty slam) here is that because Kerry wasn’t in Washington, he was “off fishin’” somewhere.
Partly it’s the fact that many or most of you have jobs where you’re not working 24/7/365. Hey, you’re off, am I right? That’s why you can’t understand that other jobs aren’t like that.
Lot’s of jobs require you to be “on” all the time, no matter where you are and no matter what you’re doing. “Vacation”, for people with jobs like that, only means you’re not in your DC (or corporate headquarters if you are a CEO) office. You’re still working. And today, you can be in contact with every single person, wherever they are in the world, real time.
The only people who buy this bologna are people who punch a clock.
July 4, 2013 at 5:46pm
Well, that’s one of the biggest loads of bologna I’ve ever heard. For example, “the Founders are painted as racists…” Do you mean that people observe that slavery was built into the Constitution (the were considered 3/5th of a person) and saying truthfully that the Founders were all slave owners?
It actually is okay those things out, and it doesn’t mean they were “racists” the way the term is used today. They were men of their times and it’s an exceptional person who can see beyond the era where they were born. I believe for example that you can’t judge people of the past by the standards we live by today. And I believe that some of the Founders believed that “all men are created equal” and at least considered the fact that blacks were part of the group “all men.” And yet they still used slave labor.
I don’t judge historical figure who act within the morals of their time, but I do hold in great esteem those who have the foresight to see beyond their own time. That’s something the Founders didn’t do, except in passing references.
Anyway, sorry, I got off topic. Sorry Glenn but no, liberals aren’t smearing this country: many people think we ought to look our history in the eye, and learn from our mistakes. Believing America has never made a mistake it not patriotism although it’s often mistaken for that. We want a more, not less perfect union.
July 3, 2013 at 10:32am
Well, come on. Let’s be honest about this. It was only right wingers who were stup** enough to buy it.
July 3, 2013 at 10:10am
Big Media Bias, dang! Media bias is right! Look, I know there are some news sources with a left wing bias. I get that. But the sources you’ve listed are so far on the fringe right, and with such little connection to actually objective news, I see you want to make dang sure you never hear one single opinion (notice I didn’t say fact) you don’t like.
I’d like to broaden your horizons. If ya don’t like US news, try getting an international perspective. Try the BBC. Or Al Jazeera. http://www.aljazeera.com/
If you confine yourself to reading websites that say only what you want to hear, you’ll never get anywhere near actually understanding what’s going on in the US or the world. I think that’s your goal, so you’ve narrowed your news sources to only places who give you what you want to hear. But if you’d like to understand the way the world really easy, you should get your news from other sources.
Don’t you want to be more like me? Someone who understands both sides of an issue?