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snooop1e

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  • [1] June 29, 2016 at 2:27am

    @ fward1208 et al,

    Here is the link to part 2 of the detailed response to the article by Geisler and Mackenzie that you cut and pasted from.

    http://www.unamsanctamcatholicam.com/apologetics/86-contra-protestantism/534-refuting-geisler-mackenzie-sola-scriptura-2.html

    You (or possibly someone else wh is reading this) might also be interested in the book below.

    https://books.google.com/books/about/Not_by_Scripture_Alone.html?id=6EwFAAAACAAJ&hl=en

    I was a (virulently anti-Catholic) Protestant/Evangelical for over 30 years and I am very familiar with all if the arguments against Catholic teaching and in favor of Protestant doctrines.

    Today there are over 40,000 “Bible based” Protestant/Evangelical churches who disagree about what is and is not “essential” for salvation, you all join together in here because it makes you feel good but in reality if you remove all of the Catholics from the Blaze you turn on one another and new arguments emerge.

    If the Bible alone is your ONLY authority why are you divided by doctrines? If in fact Martin Luther was correct and the ONLY thing that matters is believing in Jesus Christ then why are we/you separated and more importantly if our doctrines and our works have no bearing at all on our justification (salvation) then why did Martin Luther leave to begin with and what exactly are you protesting?????

    I believe that Jesus Christ is God incarnate, the Messiah, I affirm that Jesus is my Lord and Savior. I believe that I am a sinner who can only be saved through following Jesus Christ. Am I saved or not? Besides believing in Jesus Christ what else must I do to be saved? Accept Geisler and Mackenzies doctrines????? Accept your posts on the Internet????? Seriously, it doesnt seem as though you have really given this much thought.

    God Bless

    “If you want to enter life, keep the commandments”

    -Jesus

  • [1] June 29, 2016 at 1:40am

    @ fward1208

    Part 2 of the detailed response (to the article that you cut and pasted from the web)

    http://www.unamsanctamcatholicam.com/apologetics/86-contra-protestantism/534-refuting-geisler-mackenzie-sola-scriptura-2.html

    God Bless

    “If you want to enter life, keep the commandments”

    -Jesus

  • [1] June 29, 2016 at 1:22am

    Once again, time to reopen this thread with the word of God,

    James 2:24
    You see that a man is justified by WORKS and NOT by FAITH ALONE.

    Eph 3:8-11 (ESV)
    “though I am the very least of all the saints, this grace was given, to preach to the Gentiles the unsearchable riches of Christ, and to bring to light for everyone what is the plan of the mystery hidden for ages in God who created all things, so that THROUGH THE CHURCH the manifold wisdom of God might now be made known to the rulers and authorities in the heavenly places. This was according to the eternal purpose that he has realized in Christ Jesus our Lord…”

    P.S. fward1208

    In the future instead of cutting and pasting entire dissertations from the web please just post the links. Below is a link to Geisler and Mackenzie’s disertation that you cut and pasted from along with a link to a detailed response.

    Link to the dissertstion that you cut and pasted from,

    http://www.equip.org/article/a-defense-of-sola-scriptura/

    Link to a detailed response,

    http://www.unamsanctamcatholicam.com/apologetics/86-contra-protestantism/529-refuting-geisler-mackenzie-sola-scripture.html

    God Bless

    “If you want to enter life, keep the commandments”

    -Jesus

  • [3] June 28, 2016 at 8:22pm

    Even deeper sigh,

    1. When Jesus gave Simon the name ‘Rock,’ (John 1:42) He named him in Aramaic (a sister language of Hebrew and the language that Jesus and the Apostles spoke). And the Aramaic word for ‘rock’ is kepha. This was transliterated in Greek as Cephas or Kephas and translated as Petros. In Aramaic, nouns do not have gender as they do in Greek, so in the Gospel of Matthew Jesus actually said

    ‘You are Kephas and on this kephas I will build My Church.’ The change only comes about when translating from Aramaic to Greek.

    2. Everything that Paul knew was given to him supernaturally by Jesus on the road to Damascus and Paul refers to Peter with the name “Cephas”

    3. When a demonstrative pronoun is used with the Greek word for ‘and,’ which is ‘kai,’ the pronoun refers back to the preceding noun. In other words, when Jesus says, ‘You are rock, and on this rock I will build My Church,’ the second rock He refers to has to be the same rock as the first one. Peter is the rock in both cases.

    4. The Protestant Greek scholars D.A. Carson and Joseph Thayer both admit there is NO distinction in meaning between petros and petra in the Koine Greek of the New Testament
    [Joseph H. Thayer, Thayer’s Greek-English Lexicon of the New Testament (Peabody: Hendrickson, 1996), 507; D.A. Carson, “Matthew,” in Frank E. Gaebelein, ed., The Expositor’s Bible Commentary (Grand Rapids: Zondervan, 1984), vol. 8, 368.]

    5. Petra means a ‘rock.’ It even usually means a ‘large rock.’ And that’s exactly what petros means, too — large rock. It does not mean ‘pebble’ or ‘small stone,’ as you’ve been told. The Greek word for ‘pebble’ or ‘small stone’ is lithos, not petros.

    6. In his letter to the Believers in Corinth the Apostle Paul refers to Jesus as “Petra” (the same word that Jesus calls Peter in Matt 16) surely you are not suggesting that the Apostle Paul calls Jesus a pebble or a tiny insignificant stone? Why does Jesus call Peter the same word that Paul called Jesus? Only one of 2 possibilities exists, either Paul was calling Jesus an insignificant pebble or Jesus is calling Peter the rock (Kephas)

    1 Cor 10:4
    and all drank the same spiritual drink. For they drank from the spiritual Rock that followed them, and that PETRA was Christ.

    7. In Matthew 4:3,the devil cajoles Jesus to perform a miracle and transform some stones, lithoi, the Greek plural for lithos, into bread. In John 10:31, certain Jews pick up stones, lithoi, to stone Jesus with. In 1 Peter 2:5, Peter describes Christians as ‘living stones,’ lithoi, which form a spiritual house. If St. Matthew had wanted to draw a distinction between a big rock and a little rock in Matthew 16:17-19, he could have by using lithos, but he didn’t. The rock is St. Peter.

    8. When Matthew refers to the rock on which the Church would be built he uses the demonstrative pronoun “taute”, which means ‘this very,’. So the exact wording is ‘You are Peter, and on this very rock, I will build My Church.

    9. Jesus did not have to say, ‘And,’ kai, ‘on this rock I will build My Church.’ He could have said, ‘But,’ alla, ‘on this rock I will build My Church,’ meaning another rock. But He did not.

    10. The Greek word for ‘small stone,’ is lithos, the Aramaic word for small stone is evna. Jesus did not change Simon’s name to Evna, He named him Kephas, which translates as Petros, and means a large rock.”

    11. St. John knew that the original form of Peter’s name was Kephas (John 1:42), large rock, and he translated it into Greek as Petros, or Peter.

    12. All of the discussion about Peter’s name is merely a distraction, Jesus gave Kepha and ONLY Kepha the keys to the kingdom of heaven. All of the Apostles were given the power to bind and to loose and to forgive and not forgive peoples sins but only ONE Apostle was given Jesus keys and that was Kepha.

    13. In Luke 1:24 When the Apostles are arguing about which one of them is the greatest Jesus interrupts all of them and says to Kepha,

    Luke 22:31-32
    “Simon, Simon, Satan has asked to sift ALL OF YOU as wheat. But I have prayed for YOU SIMON, that YOUR faith may not fail. And when you have turned back, STRENGTHEN your brothers.”

    So at the exact moment when the Apostles are arguing with eachother about which of them is the greatest Jesus interrupts them and singles out Kepha and tells Kepha in front of ALL of the them that Jesus has prayed for Kepha and then tells Kepha to strengthen his brothers.

    “if you want to enter life, keep the commandments”

    -Jesus

  • [-2] June 28, 2016 at 5:09pm

    DECEPTION ALERT!!!

    On July 30, 2015 lcdr_zip_goodman made the following statement to jgrahamIII

    “Man is not a creature. He was never called a creature in the Bible. Man is made in God’s image, not the animals. Perhaps the catholic Bible is different?”

    When zip made this statement I confronted him and showed him 11 verses in the KJV Bible where man is explicitly referred to as a “creature”. At that point in time zip attacked the KJV Bible and said that the KJV Bible was unreliable and had many mistranslations and errors. What zip failed to realize (or was hoping that nobody would notice) is that Prior to making this statement on 30 July he himself had often quoted the Bible calling man a “creature” and on MANY occasions he himself had referred not only to himself but other born again Christians as “creatures”.

    Zip goodman quotes that explicitly contradict his claim made on July 30th,

    “If you accept Him, you are a new creature, the old has been done away with.”

    -lcdr_zip_goodmn_usn_ret

    “When one accepts Christ, He transforms them into a new creature from within”

    -lcdr_zip_goodmn_usn_ret

    “If you do this, you are a new creature (II Corinthians 5:17) and have new life. It is that simple.”

    -lcdr_zip_goodmn_usn_ret

    “if you accept Jesus as your messiah He will transform you and make you a new creature”

    -lcdr_zip_goodmn_usn_ret

    “When one confesses Jesus Christ is Lord and God the Father raised Him from the dead defeating sin and death, one is saved. At that instant they become a new creature and the old is done away with.”

    -lcdr_zip_goodmn_usn_ret

    “Homosexuals and all other sinners (of which I am one… a sinner, not homosexual) are slaves to their sins when they give sin authority over their lives to control them. The Christian can reject that control as a new creature in Christ”

    -lcdr_zip_goodmn_usn_ret

    “I am a new creature. Jesus washed me of my sins, past, present, and future”

    -lcdr_zip_goodmn_usn_ret

    “One is never too far gone for Christ to make them a new creature! AWESOME!”

    -lcdr_zip_goodmn_usn_ret

    “your religion elevates the creature rather than the creator vis-à-vis Mary”

    -lcdr_zip_goodmn_usn_ret

    “if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creature; the old things passed away; behold, new things have come. – II COR 5:17″

    -lcdr_zip_goodmn_usn_ret

    “In not one of them did you say what God means to you personally, how He transformed you from the creature you were before accepting Him”

    -lcdr_zip_goodmn_usn_ret

    Zip goodman has lied so much in here that he cannot keep track of all of his lies. That is the problem with lying, sooner or later your lies catch up with you.

    No doubt when Zip see’s this post he will frantically begin concocting another outlandish tale about how his contradictions were all part of his grand master plan to make some totally unrelated point about Jesus Mother the Blessed Virgin Mary – just as he did when he claimed that “Jesus frequently disobeyed the commandments” and was proven wrong.

    Zip cannot be trusted, he is a pathological liar who has become so comfortable with lying that he often does so without even realizing it. Please be weary of his posts, he is not a man of integrity. More to follow.

    “if you want to enter life, keep the commandments”

    -Jesus

  • June 28, 2016 at 3:50pm

    “Baptism ALWAYS follows a decision to accept Christ as Messiah in the Bible”

    -LCDR_Zip_Goodmn_USN_ret

    “Christians do not have to be baptized to be saved or to receive the Holy Spirit”

    -LCDR_Zip_Goodmn_USN_ret

  • June 28, 2016 at 3:46pm

    “This, however, is not a debate. No points are being scored”

    -LCDR_Zip_Goodmn_USN_ret

    “Game, Set, and Match – JEN”.

    -LCDR_Zip_Goodmn_USN_ret

  • June 28, 2016 at 1:19pm

    “My areas of gifting are prophecy and teaching”

    -LCDR_Zip_Goodmn_USN_ret

    “My gift is not teaching, so I sit under someone who does have the spiritual gift of teaching. Personally, my gift is that of prophecy.”

    -LCDR_Zip_Goodmn_USN_ret

    “The message I am given to share and how I share it is as a prophet. We are not popular. Accepted. We are called to a specific mission to speak in a specific
    way. I am on a mission”

    -LCDR_Zip_Goodmn_USN_ret

    “I never claimed to be a prophet”

    -LCDR_Zip_Goodmn_USN_ret

  • [1] June 28, 2016 at 1:15pm

    “My areas of gifting are prophecy and teaching”

    -LCDR_Zip_Goodmn_USN_ret

    “My gift is not teaching, so I sit under someone who does have the spiritual gift of teaching. Personally, my gift is that of prophecy.”

    -LCDR_Zip_Goodmn_USN_ret

    “The message I am given to share and how I share it is as a prophet. We are not popular. Accepted. We are called to a specific mission to speak in a specific
    way. I am on a mission”

    -LCDR_Zip_Goodmn_USN_ret

    “I never claimed to be a prophet”

    -LCDR_Zip_Goodmn_USN_ret

  • [2] June 22, 2016 at 5:21pm

    Amen.

    “if you want to enter life, keep the commandments”

    -Jesus

  • [1] June 22, 2016 at 5:20pm

    Amen Lest, Amen.

    “if you want to enter life, keep the commandments”

    -Jesus

  • [6] June 22, 2016 at 4:47pm

    “Churches and religious organizations — many of whom object to abortion”

    How did we get to the point where there are “churches” and “religions” that do not object to murdering babies in their mothers womb?

    Lord have mercy,

    “if you want to enter life, keep the commandments”

    -Jesus

  • June 16, 2016 at 9:14pm

    Amen, Jesus I Trust In You….

    “if you want to enter life, keep the commandments”

    -Jesus

  • [1] June 16, 2016 at 9:09pm

    @brigott

    “I confess not because I owe a sin debt, but because my fellowship with Him is broken”

    I don’t know that you will (can?) answer any of these questions but I am sure there are non believers who are wondering,

    1. If a person confesses Jesus Christ as Lord but then sins and (according to your comment above) “breaks their fellowship with God” do they have to confess their sins in order to repair their fellowship with God ? If so, then what exactly does confessing Jesus as Lord accomplish?

    2. What is a “broken fellowship with God”? By “fellowship” do you mean relationship?

    3. According to the Bible which results in salvation? A broken fellowship with God or a restored fellowship with God or neither?

    4. Do people who have a broken fellowship with God go to heaven?

    5. How can your sin break the fellowship with God that your faith in Jesus Christ has already restored? I thought Jesus Christ death on the cross restored ALL mankind to fellowship with God? What does confessing your sins add to Jesus finished work on the cross?

    6. If you confess your sins but do not repent (stop committing that sin) is your fellowship with God restored or is it still broken?

    7. Is confessing your sin just a symbolic ritual that does not actually accomplish anything? If so, is constantly doing something that does not really accomplish anything vain repition that denies Jesus finished work on the cross?

    8. If someone who believes in Jesus, sins (has their fellowship with God broken) and then dies before they confess their sin (has their fellowship with God restored) do they go to heaven or hell and where is this in the Bible?

    9. Why do you confess sins that Jesus ALREADY paid the price for on the cross? How does your confession restore what Jesus sacrifice on the cross already restored?

    10. If Jesus righteousness is “imputed” to you the moment you believe in Him why must a “righteous” person confess sins? Aren’t you denying that you are already made righteous in Jesus when you “confess”

    11. Does confessing your sin restore your broken fellowship with God or does God’s mercy restore your fellowship with God or both?

    “if you want to enter life, keep the commandments”

    -Jesus

  • June 14, 2016 at 9:41pm

    @zip

    “I was really hoping for something more…but”

    Imagine hearing Jesus saying those exact words.

    Sadly, just like the terrorist you have convinced yourself that you (the one who is attacking others with insults and calling others a tool of Satan) are the victim. You are the underdog, you are the unpopular prophet fighting against the evil unsaved infidels but in reality all that you are doing is is sinning in the name of God and justifying your sinfulness by pointing to the sinfulness of the ones who you are sinning against.

    You have become what you fought against, someone who believes that it is acceptable to sin in the name of their God and/or their religion as long as the person they are sinning against does not share their beliefs.

    Jesus is waiting zip, He will take all of your sins and give you healing and peace in return. But you have to truly trust in Jesus and give Him ALL of you zip, ALL of your sinfulness, you cannot hold anything in reserve. You cannot withold anything from the Lord zip.

    Can you give Jesus EVERYTHING zip? Or like the rich man will you walk away sad? Trust in Jesus zip. Give Jesus everything and you will not be disappointed.

    You might consider this prayer zip.

    “Lord Jesus Christ, Son of the living God, have mercy on me a sinner, please take ALL of me, take my pride, take my insults, take my anger, take my selfishness, take my lust, take everything that is not according to your will and only give back what is good and right and pleasing to You. You are all that I need Lord Jesus. Jesus I trust in You.”

    Or does something about this prayer offend you?

    Stronger is He who is in than he who is in the world.

    God Bless,

    “if you want to enter life, keep the commandments”

    -Jesus

  • [1] June 14, 2016 at 6:36pm

    “but saying they cant be forgivin is just plain wrong”

    It seems you misunderstand my comment. Please read it again slowly, I am not agreeing with sola fide or the people who hold to the doctrine of sola fide. I am simply pointing out,

    1. That sola fide and eternal security make it impossible for any church to enforce any behavioral standards at all

    2. All those who affirm sola fide yet deny that homosexuals who believe in Christ are “saved” are simply hypocrites.

    “if you want to enter life, keep the commandments”

    -Jesus

  • June 14, 2016 at 1:56pm

    Gay marriage and LGBT..Q…I issues are dividing (and conquering) Protestants/Evangelicals like nothing before in the history of Protestantism. One only needs to look through the comments in this section to see all of the division and disagreement surrounding this issue.

    The doctrine of “salvation by faith alone” is powerless to the sin of gay marriage (and all sins) and here is why,

    IF salvation TRULY is by “FAITH ALONE” and sin has NO EFFECT on a person’s justification (salvation) after they believe in Jesus Christ then who can say that any particular type of sin cuts a person off from the

    “free gift of salvation that can ONLY come by FAITH ALONE in Jesus Christ”?

    If abstaining from homosexual acts is REQUIRED in order for a person to be “saved” then something the person DID and not their FAITH ALONE “saved” them and they were not “saved by faith alone”

    Honest Protesants/Evangeliclas realize this and are rightly asking the questions,

    1. Why are all of my heterosexual sins HIDDEN from God by believing in Jesus Christ but the homosexuals sins are not?

    2. Why are homosexuals required to have faith AND abstain from homosexual sins (works) in order to be saved but I only require faith to be saved?

    3. Why are heterosexuals saved by faith alone but homosexuals are not?

    Honest Protesants/Evangelicals know that only 1 of three answers is possible, either

    1. The sin of homosexality is the ONLY sin that is not covered by FAITH ALONE in Jesus Christ

    2. Homosexuality is the unforgivable sin

    3. Only heterosexuals are saved by FAITH ALONE.

    The Protestants/Evangelicals who are accepting gay marriage and the homosexual lifestyle are simply refusing to be hypocrites and holding fast to the doctrine of sola fide.

    “if you want to enter life, keep the commandments”

    -Jesus

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  • [1] June 10, 2016 at 8:14pm

    @zip

    Got it, the reason that you did what you did is because Nancy Pelosi is a poopy head bad Catholic.

    We are not in the 3rd grade anymore zip. When you were a little boy you could blame your bad behavior on other kids but now you are all grown up and you have to start taking responsibility for your actions and words.

    Blaming Nancy Pelosi for your behavior because she is a different religion than you is exactly the type of behavior that non-Christians expect to see from Christians and validates in their minds that Christians are self-righteous hypocrites who cannot admit when they are wrong or take responsibility for their actions.

    Why do you constantly reinforce this stereotype?

    You can hyphenate God and quote scripture until Jesus returns but people are going to remember about you is how you could never admit when you were wrong and how you always made petty excuses for your mistakes.

    P.S.

    A “Devout” Catholic is someone who follows the teachings of the Catholic church.

    When you call Nancy Pelosi a “Devout” Catholic but then list things that she does that go against Catholic teaching it just makes you look very confused.

    Your division and strife is nothing but a distraction and provides anti-Christian types all of the evidence they need that Chrisians are just bunch of self-righteous morons who can never admit when they are wrong.

    Please, slow down and consider the impression that you are making on non-Christians.

    You might not care about how non-Christians view Christians but many of us in here do because we know that the easiest way to keep someone from coming to Jesus is by making them hate the ones who constantly say His name.

    Try to remember that when people look at you they see Jesus Christ and they believe that Jesus Christ is IN you…after all that is what you are CONSTANTLY telling people in this forum. Does it make any sense at all to constantly tell people that you are “indwelt with the Holy Spirit” and “have the gifts of prophecy” and then act the way that you are acting?

    Think about it,

    God Bless,

    “if you want to enter life, keep the commandments”

    -Jesus

  • June 10, 2016 at 6:54pm

    @whoknows99

    P.S.

    To all those who believe that “whoknows99? is a “Christian”. I encourage you to look over his posts and ask yourself if these are the words of someone who is filled with the Holy Spirit?

    http://www.theblaze.com/user/whoknows99/

    Below are quotes cut and pasted directly from his comments on the Blaze.

    “I get my panties wet when I post to real men like 99?

    ” I sure am B slapping you bottom boy, and you beg for more like you do from every other guy who comes by your park restroom stall”

    ” your mom ‘helps’ me quite a bit, and pays me quite well. ;) ROTFLMAO!!!”

    ” uh oh dog is on his knees squealing for a real man to beat his fat smelly loser a** again”

    “wahh MOMMMY I sh** on myself and am too fat to change my depends…ROTFLMAO!!!”

    “here’s dog again squealing for my attention like his momma does as she begs me sorry the answer is still no, but I love how you post on your knees to me ROTFLMAO!!!”

    ” love how you keep begging for my attention princess too bad viagra doesn’t work for you and hasn’t for decades ROTFLMAO!!!”

    ” I sure am making your mom squeal…..keep begging me to make you squeal….you sure are desperate princess”

    ” you sure are desperate for my attention, beg harder bottom it amuses me, and thanks for being obedient
    ROTFLMAO!!!!!!”

    ” yes I love your girlish squealing as you post on you knees to me begging for a real man”

    ” love how you squeal as you bend over and beg for more ROTFLMAO!!!!!”

    “keep posting on your knees to me, it amuses me ROTFLMAO!!!!”

    “while your momma sure pays me well….for something BIG….ROTFLMAO!!!”

    “why do I get the impression you’re posting on your knees to me begging for a real man just like your mom/sis does”

    “beg harder bottom it amuses me”

    “you should see what she begs me for.. ;-)”

    I pray that you repent “whoknows99? and start behaving and speaking like a follower of Jesus Christ.

    God Bless,

    “if you want to enter life, keep the commandments”

    -Jesus

  • June 10, 2016 at 6:39pm

    @whoknows99

    I see now why you are so confused. You do not understand the biblical definition of “faith”

    Someone taught you that whenever you see the word “faith” in the Bible that simply means believing in Jesus.

    James 2:14
    What good is it, my brothers and sisters, if someone claims to have faith but has no works? Can such faith save them?

    James 2:17
    So also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead

    Again, a “dead” faith cannot save anyone (that is why it is called dead) Again a “useless” faith cannot save anyone (that is why it is called useless)

    What exactly must God say to you to get you to understand/accept that faith without works is useless and dead?

    James 2:20
    Do you want to be shown, you foolish person, that FAITH WITHOUT WORKS IS USELESS?

    Now read the following very slowly, it is a very simple message,

    James 2:21-23
    Was not Abraham our father JUSTIFIED BY WORKS when he offered up his son Isaac on the altar? You see that faith was active along with his works, and FAITH WAS COMPLETED BY HIS WORKS; and the Scripture was FULFILLED that says, “Abraham believed God, and it was COUNTED to him as righteousness

    Again, can an incomplete faith save anyone? Don’t you want your faith to be a complete, useful, alive faith that justifies you before God? Or do you want an easy believism useless, incomplete, dead faith that does not justify you?

    If you are having trouble understanding the passage above it says that the reason Abrhams faith was credited to him as righteousness was because of HIS WORKS. Hence the sentence “was not our father Abraham justified by works”. On a side note why does the Holy Spirit call Abrham “father”? Doesn’t the Bible say “call no man on earth your father”?

    Lastly if you STILL refuse to accept God’s defintion of “faith” God follows up with this,

    James 2:24
    You see that A MAN IS JUSTIFIED BY WORKS and NOT by FAITH ALONE.

    Still unwilling to accept God’s definition of faith?

    James 2:25
    And in the same way was not also Rahab the prostitute JUSTIFIED BY WORKS when she received the messengers and sent them out by another way.

    Still unwilling to accept God’s definition of faith?

    James 2:26
    For as the body without the spirit is dead, SO ALSO FAITH WITHOUT WORKS IS DEAD.

    So no go back and re-read all of the proof texts (aka isolated verses) that you posted and whenever you see the word “faith” remind yourself that any “faith” that does not have works is incomplete and useless and dead.

    God Bless

    “if you want to enter life, keep the commandments”

    -Jesus

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