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snooop1e

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  • August 3, 2015 at 8:40pm

    Cont’d

    “seek the correct meaning from God Himself.”

    In other posts LCDR Zip has stated that the way we can know that our interpretation of scripture is correct is by “comparing it with other scripture” which according to him has many inaccuracies and errors. This is self defeating logic.

    “Ultimately, this group of words in the Hebrew and Greek is not a point of salvation.”

    To all who read these posts you see that LCDR Zip advises that the words in the Bible are “not a point of salvation.”

    “As much as I enjoy being right (and I am)”

    You claimed that the Bible “NEVER” refers to humans as “creatures” and when I posted 9 explicit verses from the KJV Bible were man is called a “creature” you then declare that the KJV Bible is inaccurate and full of errors and mistranslations and according to you that is the definition of “being right”

    “This thread is now closed”

    To all who read these posts, you see that LCDR Zip made the false claim that

    “the Bible NEVER refers to man as a ‘creature’”

    And he even intimated that only “Catholic” Bibles (there is no such thing) refer to man as a creature.

    Then when faced with 9 explicit verses where the KJV Bible (most of them from Paul) calls man a “creature” LCDR Zip declares that the KJV Bible has many errors and inaccuracies but HE knows what the Holy Spirit SHOULD have said.

    Then when it is painfully clear that he is digging the hole even deeper he declares “this thread is closed” and retreats.

    Peace In Christ
    IHS

  • August 3, 2015 at 8:38pm

    @LCDR Zip Goodman

    “As with any translation, the KJV is not infallible.”

    To all who read these posts you see that LCDR Zip claims that the KJV Bible is not infallible.

    “There are numerous well documented places the KJV is incorrect.”

    To all who read these posts you see that LCDR Zip claims that there are numerous places where the KJV Bible is “incorrect.”

    “it is not infallible.”

    To all who read these posts you see that 3 times LCDR Zip has claimed that the KJV bible is “not infallible” and “incorrect.” The number 3 has significance in scripture.

    “There are many instances where the KJV translates “creature” but a more accurate rendering is something else.”

    To all who read these posts you see LCDR Zip claims that the there are “many instances” where the KJV is mistranslates words.

    “Militant catholics have great difficulty dealing with Christians who know The Word better than they”

    To all who read these posts you see that LCDR Zip claims to be led by the Holy Spirit but then casts stones refering to me as a “militant Catholic” simply for pointing out that he was wrong.

    “I encourage readers to not take ANY poster’s word for what God says in His Word.”

    This is circular and self-defeating logic, if readers take your advice they cannot take your advice.

    Cont’d

  • [1] August 3, 2015 at 7:50pm

    @titaniumape

    “Instead of believing that it is impossible for you to keep the commandments of God as you like to preach. Maybe you could have faith that you can”

    I think you may have misread/misunderstood my comment(s).

    I absolutely believe that it IS POSSIBLE to obey Gods commandments. Scripture tells us (Luke 1:6) that Elizabeth and Zacharias obeyed ALL of Gods commandments and decrees BLAMELESSLY.

    My posts are actually directed at refuting Martin Luther’s unbiblical doctrines of

    1. Sola Fide (obeying Gods commandments is not possible or required for salvation)

    2. Sola Scriptura (The Holy Spirit lead every Christian to an infallible understanding of the scriptures)

    3. Eternal Security (once saved always saved).

    If you deny these unbiblical doctrines than we are in agreement. Not sure where/how you got the idea that I “preach that it is impossible to obey Gods commandments”?

    “if you want to enter life, keep the commandments”

    -Jesus

  • August 3, 2015 at 3:12am

    Cont’d

    7. If Jesus were born of a woman who was not like Eve (perfect without sin) good and evil would have to occupy the same vessel and according to scripture this is not possible. Nothing impure can enter into Gods presence. For this reason the church understood that God could not occupy a sinful womb, that is an impossibility.

    8. Mary is worthy of “Hyperdulia” (not Latria) for 2 reasons. First because she is the new Eve, created (by our Lord) without sin. Second, because (like Eve) Mary had free will HOWEVER, (unlike Eve) she did not disobey God. She perfectly fulfilled Gods will giving birth to God in the flesh.

    9. Mary is the ONLY human being in all of salvation history who has a triune relationship with God. Mary is the daughter of God the Father. Mary is the Mother of God the Son and Mary is the Spouse of God the Holy Spirit.

    Having been a Protestant/Evangelical for over 30 years my experience is that very few Protestants/Evangelicals fully grasp the hypostatic union and this is a stumbling block to understanding (and accepting) GOD’S reason for creating Mary just like Eve. Mary did not choose God, God chose Mary. Again, Mary is worthy of Hyperdulia not because of Mary but because of God. Neither Eve or Mary created themselves perfect without sin, God did that, where Mary differs from Eve is Mary believed God and fulfilled Gods will and not her own.

    For a more detailed understanding checkout Augustine and Aquinas.

  • [1] August 3, 2015 at 3:08am

    Cont’d

    You are correct that the “immaculate conception” refers to the Blessed Virgin Mary (not to Jesus). The early fathers came to the understanding of the immaculate conception (via the guidance of the Holy Spirit) according to the following principles.

    1. God created Eve (the woman who would disobey God giving birth to CONDEMNATION for ALL mankind) perfect and without sin.

    2. God created Mary (the woman who would obey God and gave birth to SALVATION for ALL mankind) in the same way that He created Eve, perfect and without sin. To do otherwise would not be perfectly just.

    3. Jesus is fully human and fully God.

    4. Jesus fully human nature came from His mother Mary, it did not come from God as God is not human. (Jesus human nature was tempted in the desert and God cannot be tempted)

    5. All humans inherit a broken/disordered sin nature from our parents Adam and Eve (we are their offspring/decendents)

    6. Good and Evil, Ordered and Disordered, cannot occupy the same vessel (i.e. Jesus told Mary Magdalene not to touch Him for He had not yet ascended to the Father)

    Note: Jesus told Thomas to touch Him but scripture does not say that Thomas actually did touch Jesus. Remember what happened to Uzzah when he touched the ark.

    Cont’d

  • [1] August 3, 2015 at 3:07am

    @jgrahamlll

    Adam and Eve were both created perfect without sin yes/no?

    As discussed in a previous thread everything in the old testament is an imperfect “type” or foreshadowing of the perfect fulfillment of the new covenant.

    In the old testament God created Adam and Eve perfect without sin. Adam and Eve (who did not fulfill Gods plan) were a “type” of the man and woman (Jesus and Mary) who would fulfill Gods plan.

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  • August 2, 2015 at 8:54pm

    To all who read these posts. You see that the poster begins with the false claim that

    “Man is not a creature. He was [NEVER] called a creature in the Bible.”

    But then when faced with biblical proof that the KJV Bible does in fact call man a “creature” he then tries to convince people that the KJV Bible is not quite accurate when it says “creature” and should have said “creation” (which is actually how the “Catholic” Bible translates it. How ironic.)

    So we see this (duplicitous) principle in effect where the Bible is infallible until it explicitly contradicts the poster and then the Bible is inaccurate and the poster tells the Bible what it actually should say. Pretty audacious isn’t it?

    The poster says the Bible interprets itself until the Bible explicitly contradicts him and then HE tells the Bible what the Bible should actually say.

    In a spirit of charity I removed the off handed comment he made about “Catholic” bibles being “different” and I intentionally quoted from the ORIGINAL KJV which oddly enough is identical to the “Catholic” Bible (which is identical to the Latin Vulgate)

    Despite the posters false claim, the Bible actually DOES refer to man as a “creature”. If the KJV cannot be trusted to be perfect (infallible) and accurate in every detail and requires correction and clarification from the poster (as was just demonstrated) then scripture does not have the final “word”…….the poster does…..and he is fallible…..

    Peace in Christ. : )

  • August 2, 2015 at 5:35pm

    Cont’d

    Rom 8:19-21 (KJV)
    For the CREATURE was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope, Because the CREATURE itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God. 

    Heb 4:13
    Neither is there any CREATURE that is not manifest in his sight: but all things arenaked and opened unto the eyes of him with whom we have to do.

    “If you want to enter life, keep the commandments”

    -Jesus

  • August 2, 2015 at 5:34pm

    @LCDR Zip

    “Man is not a creature. He was never called a creature in the Bible.”

    That is incorrect.

    Mark 16:15 (KJV)
    And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every CREATURE

    Gal 6:15 (KJV)
    For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision, but a new CREATURE.

    2 Cor 5:17 (KJV)
    Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new CREATURE: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.

    Col 1:15 (KJV)
    Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every CREATURE

    Col 1:23 (KJV)
    ye continue in the faith grounded and settled, and be not moved away from the hope of the gospel, which ye have heard, and which was preached to every CREATURE which is under heaven; whereof I Paul am made a minister;

    Rom 1:24 (KJV)
    Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves: Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the CREATURE more than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen.

    Rom 8:18-19 (KJV)
    For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us. For the earnest expectation of the CREATURE waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God. 

    Cont’d

  • August 2, 2015 at 5:20pm

    Cont’d

    Rom 8:19-21 (KJV)
    For the CREATURE was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope, Because the CREATURE itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God. 

    Heb 4:13
    Neither is there any CREATURE that is not manifest in his sight: but all things arenaked and opened unto the eyes of him with whom we have to do.

    “If you want to enter life, keep the commandments”

    -Jesus

  • August 2, 2015 at 5:11pm

    @LCDR Zip

    “Man is not a creature. He was never called a creature in the Bible.”

    That is incorrect.

    Mark 16:15 (KJV)
    And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every CREATURE

    Gal 6:15
    For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision, but a new CREATURE.

    2 Cor 5:17 (KJV)
    Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new CREATURE: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.

    Col 1:15 (KJV)
    Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every CREATURE

    Col 1:23 (KJV)
    ye continue in the faith grounded and settled, and be not moved away from the hope of the gospel, which ye have heard, and which was preached to every CREATURE which is under heaven; whereof I Paul am made a minister;

    Rom 1:24 (KJV)
    Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves: Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the CREATURE more than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen.

    Rom 8:18-19 (KJV)
    For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us. For the earnest expectation of the CREATURE waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God. 

    Cont’d

  • August 2, 2015 at 1:19pm

    “Notice how He did not say, “My church and its elected leader are the way the truth and the life”

    According to scripture the Church is the PILAR and FOUNDATION of THE TRUTH.

    1 TIM 3:15
    if I am delayed, you will know how people ought to conduct themselves in God’s household, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and foundation of the truth.

    “He is what one needs to be saved, not a religion.”

    According to scripture,

    James 1:27
    Religion that God our Father accepts as PURE and FAULTLESS is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world.

    “If you want to enter life, keep the commandments”

    -Jesus

  • [1] August 2, 2015 at 12:21pm

    @titaniumape

    The point of my original post was regarding division. There is much disagreement within Protestantism/Evangelicalism regarding what is and is not “essential” for salvation. I cannot possibly keep track of all of the individual beliefs held by everyone who posts in here. If you reject the doctrine that “Gods commands are impossible to obey” that is a good thing. :)

    According to Paul unity is essential.

    1 Cor 1:10
    I appeal to you, brothers and sisters, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that all of you agree with one another in what you say and that there be no divisions among you, but that you be PERFECTLY united in mind and thought.

    According to Jesus unity is essential – if the world is going to believe.

    John 17:20-22
    I do not ask on behalf of these alone, but for those also who believe in Me through their word; that they may all be ONE; even as You, Father, are in Me and I in You, that they also may be in Us, SO THAT THE WORLD MAY BELIEVE that You sent Me. ”The glory which You have given Me I have given to them, that they may be ONE, just as We are one;…

    “If you want to enter life, keep the commandments”

    -Jesus

  • August 1, 2015 at 4:29pm

    Excellent points. Pregnancy is not an illness or a disease.

  • [1] August 1, 2015 at 4:26pm

    @spunky

    God creates all life so yes God can rightfully/justifiably end life. We cannot begin to know the mind of God and Gods ways are not our ways.

    If we believe that God is perfect love and perfectly just then we can rest assured that everything God does is out of perfect love and we have no reason to question or doubt anything God does. You are reading this right now because God loves you.

    Hope this makes sense, I know it can be very difficult to understand and even make a person angry with God but understanding this is only possible with Gods grace which He gives freely to anyone who asks.

    Try telling God that you think that the concept of God is ridiculous and your understanding of God is not of a loving and just God but a vengeful God and ask Him if He is real to show you the truth and help you to understand.

    What have you got to lose?

    Hang in there man, I’ve been where you are and I respect your honesty. God doesn’t want blind robots who just accept things without truly understanding them. God wants you to question Him so He can answer. Go ahead and tell Him what you honestly think.

    Peace Be With You

  • August 1, 2015 at 4:19pm

    God creates all life so yes God can rightfully/justifiably end life. We cannot begin to know the mind of God and Gods ways are not our ways. If we believe that God is perfect love and perfectly just then we can rest assured that everything God does is out of perfect love and we have no reason to question or doubt anything God does. You are reading this right now because God lives you.

    Hope this makes sense, I know it can be very difficult to understand and even make a person angry with God but understanding this is only possible with Gods grace which He gives freely to anyone who asks.

    Try telling God you think that the concept of God is ridiculous and your understanding of God is not of a loving and just God but a vengeful God and ask Him if He is real to show you the truth. What have you got to lose?

    Hang in there man, I’ve been where you are and I respect your honesty.

    Peace Be With You

  • August 1, 2015 at 4:01pm

    Amen! Beautiful post.

  • [1] August 1, 2015 at 3:31pm

    “truth is ADDED TO”

    God is TRUTH (John 14:6) and God cannot be “added to”. Your tradition and doctrines are what is being “added to”

    “… born again means to start from scratch.”

    Paul tells us that those who are born again IN CHRIST have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires and no longer live according to the flesh but according to the spirit.

    Gal 5:22-26
    The acts of the flesh are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God.

    “Truth like faith grows.”

    God is TRUTH (John 14:6) and God does not “grow”. When Evangelicals/Protestants accept gay marriage Truth did not “grow” their doctrines and traditions changed.

    Why did you avoid addressing the other questions?

    “If you want to enter life, keep the commandments”

    -Jesus

  • [1] August 1, 2015 at 1:47pm

    1. When the Holy Spirit guides YOUR understanding of scriptures is your understanding fallible or infallible?

    2. There is one mediator between God and man and that is Jesus Christ so why do we need Pauls teachings? Why did Paul continue to teach people things in his letters after Jesus ministry?

    3. Paul was a sinner like you and me, were Pauls teachings infallible?

    4. Jesus was circumcised and Jesus did not abolish circumcision. By what authority did the Apostles come between God and man and violate Gods command and abolish circumcision?

    5. When you disagree with your Pastors interpretation of scripture is your interprtation infallible?

    6. When Jesus said the Holy Spirit would guide the church to all truth did He mean fallible or infallible truth?

    7. Are Jesus keys to the kingdom of heaven fallible or infallible?

    8. When Jesus said the gates of hell will NEVER prevail was Jesus saying the church would sometimes teach error?

    9. Of what use is a fallible/imperfect understanding of an infallible /perfect word?

    10. Can an imperfect/fallible understanding of scripture lead a person to salvation?

    11. Why did Phillip have to come between God and the Eunuch and “explain” the scriptures to the Eunuch? Was Phillips explanation of the scriptures fallible or infallible?

    12. Is Jesus church fallible or infallible?

    “If you want to enter life, keep the commandments”

    -Jesus

  • [1] August 1, 2015 at 12:47pm

    Cont’d

    “If the devil says to you, ‘Will you not stop drinking, answer him: I will drink all the more because you forbid it; I will drink great droughts in the name and to the honor of Jesus Christ.”

    “I tell you, we must put all the Ten Commandments, with which the devil tempts and plagues us so greatly, out of sight and out of mind…….”

     ”How often have I taken with my wife those liberties which nature permits, merely in order to get rid of Satan’s temptations. Yet all for no purpose, for he refused to depart; for Satan, as the author of death, has deprived our nature to such an extent that we will not admit any consolation. Hence  I advise everyone who is able to drive away these Satanic thoughts be diverting his mind by thinking of a pretty girl, of money making, or of drink, or, in fine, by means of some other vivid emotion”

    “if you want enter life, keep the commandments”

    -Jesus

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