User Profile: snooop1e

snooop1e

Member Since: January 13, 2011

Comments

123 To page: Go
  • [2] April 28, 2016 at 5:48pm

    Thank you for your post. The sinfulness of Catholics really has no bearing on my points. I encourage you to study the actual teachings of the church vice making a judgement based on the sinful behavior of unfaithful Catholics.

    If you think about it, there is a difference between the sinful behavior or individuals and the actual doctrines. My post is addressing actual doctrines not specific individuals.

    Of the 12 Apostles who Jesus Himself selected one betrayed Him for money, one cursed and denied Him three times to His face and 10 abandoned Him when He needed them most. Only one, John, was at the foot of the cross with Jesus Mother Mary. Would you leave Jesus because of the other 10?

    Surely you can see the difference.

    P.S.
    Your associate zip_goodman below believes (and has posted in this forum) that

    “Jesus frequently disobeyed the commandments”

    And you remain silent and say nothing, why? Is it because both of you share a hatred for the Catholic church?

    “if you want to enter life, keep the commandments”

    -Jesus

  • April 28, 2016 at 5:36pm

    Hey there In.

    Assuming that Catholic church attendance is also in decline (I don’t know if it is or is not) that does not invalidate my points.

    There is ONE very VISIBLE Catholic church which REQUIRES Sunday attendance and the CHURCH has (and excercises) the AUTHORITY to bind and loose (on earth and in heaven) and forgive and NOT FORGIVE peoples sins. The Catholic church affirms that the church is the pilar and foundation of truth (1 Tim 3:15) and rejects the unbiblical notion that every individual who reads the Bible can decide for themselves what is and is not “essential” for salvation.

    Conversely there are over 40,000 different “Bible based” Protestant/Evangelical churches who disagree about what is and is not “essential” for salvation and they ALL believe that the “church” is “invisible” and has ZERO authority over ANYONE. This is a major problem.

    That is essentially my point. Protestants/Evangelicals believe that the “church” is “invisible” and ironically (necessarily) that is becoming a reality.

    That is all that I am saying…

    In Christ,

    “if you want to enter life, keep the commandments”

    -Jesus

  • [9] April 28, 2016 at 1:11pm

    “the delivery mechanism that is being used to spread the Christian gospel”

    I’ve got news for this “expert” it’s not the “delivery method” it’s the false message.

    For over 500 years Protestant/Evangelical churches have been telling people that

    1. No church or pastor has any authority over you, YOUR personal interpretation of the Bible is your ONLY authority (2 Tim 3:16), (John 20:23), (Luke 10:16), (Matt 28:18-20), (1 Cor 4:15)

    2. Once you accept Jesus Christ as your personal Savior ALL of your past, present and FUTURE sins are hidden from God by the Blood of Jesus Christ (1 Cor 6:9), (Gal 5:16-21), (1 Cor 6:9), (Matt 7:21-23

    3. God cannot see when a Christian sins (unless they are homosexual), God can only see Jesus righteousness.

    4. Christians will not be judged on judgement day (Rom 2:6-7)

    5. Once you say the sinners prayer no amount of sin can keep you from going to heaven (Eph 5:5)

    6. Jesus died for you because God’s commandments are impossible to obey (Luke 1:6)

    7. In Eph 5:5, 1 Cor 6:9 and Gal 5:16-21 Paul isn’t talking to Christians. Paul is talking to non-Christians and telling them that they can enter into heaven if they obey God’s commandments

    8. Trying to obey God’s commandments is “works righteousness” which denies Jesus finished work on the cross (John 9:31)

    9. The “church” is just a building, you do not need a “church” to be saved. You can worship God at home.

    For over 500 years Protestants/Evangelicals have been relying on the Bible Alone as their ONLY authority and the result is today there are over 40,000 (and growing) different “Bible based” churches who disagree with eachother about what is and is not “essential” for salvation.

    Protesatantism/Evangelicalism accepts every manner of sin imagineable (unlimited divorce and remarriage for any reason, chemical and surgical sterilization, contra-ception, fornication, adultery, chemical and surgical abortion, female ordination, gay clery, gay marriage etc) according to the doctrines of sola scriptura, sola fide and eternal security (aka once saved always saved) and this trend is continuing as more and more Protestant/Evangelical churches accept gay clergy, gay marriage and transgenderism.

    Today not a single Protestant/Evangelical church forbids abortion.

    I am sure my post will anger many people but the truth is, attendance in Protestant/Evangelical churches isn’t dwindling because of the “delivery method” church attendance is dwindling because the unbiblical doctrine of sola scriptura has rendered the “church” irrelevant. Because the church is not “essential” for salvation it’s existence is meaningless.

    Protestant/Evangelical churches are nice places to come and fellowship but they are not “essential” for salvation. This is the problem. (1 Tim 3:15)

    We are all created in Gods image and likeness and God’s laws are written on our hearts. People instinctively know when they are being lied to and the doctrines of sola fide, sola scriptura and once saved always saved are the cause (not the solution) to all of the sins listed above.

    People are hungry for the truth (Jesus) but they are being fed a steady diet of

    “no amount of sin can keep you from going to heaven once you believe in Jesus”

    and

    “you can accept Jesus as your personal Savior but reject Him as your LORD”

    This “Carnal Christian” easy believism that is being taught in “churches” today is a false gospel created by sinful men and women who reject the keeping of God’s commandments and have traded the truth for a lie.

    These false teachers teach that the road to salvation is easy and wide (just repeat this prayer after me and you are guaranteed eternity in paradise)

    No doubt the false message that you can repeat a special prayer and continue to live according to the flesh and still go to heaven is VERY appealing to our sinful nature……it just isn’t true.

    “if you want to enter life, keep the commandments”

    -Jesus

    Responses (6) +
  • April 27, 2016 at 3:42pm

    @displaced

    If you look at your mouse there is an “anti-wade” wheel on it, you can roll it towards you to scroll past things that you do not understand.

    Hope this helps…

    ; )~

    “if you want to enter life, keep the commandments”

    -Jesus

  • [1] April 27, 2016 at 3:35pm

    Amen Lest, Amen

    “if you want to enter life, keep the commandments”

    -Jesus

  • [1] April 27, 2016 at 3:31pm

    “But without repenting and turning away from that sin you do not have the saving Grace of God.”

    Precisely my point. Salvaton is not by faith alone and once saved always saved is not biblical.

    “if you want to enter life, keep the commandments”

    -Jesus

  • [-1] April 27, 2016 at 3:16pm

    Eternity is much longer……

    “if you want to enter life, keep the commandments”

    -Jesus

  • [-1] April 27, 2016 at 3:11pm

    @franklingraham

    Gay marriage (and transgender-ism) are dividing (and will continue to divide) Protestants/Evangelicals like nothing before in the history of Protestantism.

    The doctrine of “salvation by faith alone” is totally powerless to the issues of transgender-ism, gay marriage and gay clergy (and all sin) and here is why,

    IF salvation TRULY is by “FAITH ALONE” and sin has NO EFFECT on a person’s salvation (once they believe in Jesus Christ) then who can say that any particular type of sin cuts someone off from the

    “free gift of salvation by faith alone in Jesus Christ” ???

    If abstaining from certain sins (such as homosexual acts) makes a person “right with God” then something the person DID (not their faith alone) saved them…….…period.

    The entire Protestant/Evangelical framework stands or falls on Martin Luther’s doctrine of Sola Fide (salvation by faith alone).

    This doctrine teaches that once a person believes in Jesus Christ ALL of their past, present and FUTURE sins are COVERED (hidden from God) by the blood of Jesus Christ so that whenever a believer sins God does not see them sinning God only sees Jesus righteousness.

    Well if that is true, then homosexual sinners who believe in Jesus Christ have ALL of their sins hidden from God through faith in Jesus Christ just as heterosexual sinners do.

    This is where Martin Luther’s doctrine of “salvation by faith alone” falls flat. If salvation TRULY is by “faith alone” and ALL of a believers sins (including FUTURE sins) are HIDDEN from God by their faith alone then God can’t even see the gay couples sin, God can only see Jesus righteousness.

    So then, the ONLY viable option (for Christians who believe that salvation is by faith alone) is to accept that gay marriage (like all other sins) is “hidden” from God by believing in Jesus. This is the dilemma that is dividing Protestants/Evangelicals and will continue to do so like nothing before in the history of Protestantism.

    This is the 800 lb Protestant/Evangelical elephant in the room. Honest Protesants/Evangeliclas are asking themselves the question,

    “why are ALL of MY sins HIDDEN from God by believing in Jesus Christ but the homosexual who also believes in Jesus is required to abstain from sin in order to be saved?”

    The vast majority (if not all) Protestant churches today have no problem marrying 2 Christians who were previously married and divorced (what Jesus calls Adultery) regardless of the reason(s) for the divorce or the number of divorces.

    For example Kentucky County clerk Kim Davis has been married 4 times and divorced 3 times but not a single Protestant/Evangelical Pastor will say that Kim Davis that is living in adultery and not truly saved. It’s not even an issue to Protestants/Evangelicals.

    As a matter of fact, when Kim Davis went to jail for refusing to issue marriage licenses to gay couples because “their marriages are not valid in the eyes of God” Protestants/Evangelicals (such as Gov Mike Huckabee) rallied to her support and even compared her to the Apostle Paul who was imprisoned for his faith.

    Kim Davis sin-cerely believes that her first 3 marriages were all “valid in the eyes of God” until she personally invalidated them by getting a divorce and she believes that her 4th and current “re-marriage” is “valid in the eyes of God”. That is until she decides that she wants another divorce at which time she will invalidate her current marriage with a divorce.

    At the same time she feels absolutely justified in telling gay couples that THEIR marriages “are not valid in the eyes of God”.

    So clearly there is a double standard here. All of Kim Davis sins (and divorces) are covered by her faith alone in Jesus Christ but gay couples must believe in Jesus Christ AND abstain from sin in order to be saved. In other words heterosexual sinners are saved by their “faith alone” but homosexual sinners can only be saved by faith PLUS works.

    The Protestants/Evangelicals who are accepting gay marriage are simply affirming the doctrine of “salvation by faith alone” and refusing to be hypocrites.

    Deep down inside these Protestants/Evangelicals realize that telling anyone that they must DO anything (besides believe in Jesus) in order to be saved is a tacit denial of the doctrine of “salvation by faith alone” and THAT is not an option.

    “If you want to enter life, keep the commandments”

    -Jesus

    Responses (3) +
  • [-1] April 26, 2016 at 6:27pm

    Gay marriage is dividing (and will continue to divide) Protestants/Evangelicals like nothing before in the history of Protestantism.

    The doctrine of “salvation by faith alone” is totally powerless to the issues of gay marriage and gay clergy (and all sin) and here is why,

    IF salvation TRULY is by “FAITH ALONE” and sin has NO EFFECT on a person’s salvation (once they believe in Jesus Christ) then who can say that any particular type of sin cuts someone off from the

    “free gift of salvation by faith alone in Jesus Christ” ???

    If abstaining from certain sins (such as homosexual acts) makes a person “right with God” then something the person DID (not their faith alone) saved them…….…period.

    The entire Protestant/Evangelical framework stands or falls on Martin Luther’s doctrine of Sola Fide (salvation by faith alone).

    This doctrine teaches that once a person believes in Jesus Christ ALL of their past, present and FUTURE sins are COVERED (hidden from God) by the blood of Jesus Christ so that whenever a believer sins God does not see them sinning God only sees Jesus righteousness.

    Well if that is true, then homosexual sinners who believe in Jesus Christ have ALL of their sins hidden from God through faith in Jesus Christ just as heterosexual sinners do.

    This is where Martin Luther’s doctrine of “salvation by faith alone” falls flat. If salvation TRULY is by “faith alone” and ALL of a believers sins (including FUTURE sins) are HIDDEN from God by their faith alone then God can’t even see the gay couples sin, God can only see Jesus righteousness.

    So then, the ONLY viable option (for Christians who believe that salvation is by faith alone) is to accept that gay marriage (like all other sins) is “hidden” from God by believing in Jesus. This is the dilemma that is dividing Protestants/Evangelicals and will continue to do so like nothing before in the history of Protestantism.

    This is the 800 lb Protestant/Evangelical elephant in the room. Honest Protesants/Evangeliclas are asking themselves the question,

    “why are ALL of MY sins HIDDEN from God by believing in Jesus Christ but the homosexual who also believes in Jesus is required to abstain from sin in order to be saved?”

    The vast majority (if not all) Protestant churches today have no problem marrying 2 Christians who were previously married and divorced (what Jesus calls Adultery) regardless of the reason(s) for the divorce or the number of divorces.

    For example Kentucky County clerk Kim Davis has been married 4 times and divorced 3 times but not a single Protestant/Evangelical Pastor will say that Kim Davis that is living in adultery and not truly saved. It’s not even an issue to Protestants/Evangelicals.

    As a matter of fact, when Kim Davis went to jail for refusing to issue marriage licenses to gay couples because “their marriages are not valid in the eyes of God” Protestants/Evangelicals (such as Gov Mike Huckabee) rallied to her support and even compared her to the Apostle Paul who was imprisoned for his faith.

    Kim Davis sin-cerely believes that her first 3 marriages were all “valid in the eyes of God” until she personally invalidated them by getting a divorce and she believes that her 4th and current “re-marriage” is “valid in the eyes of God”. That is until she decides that she wants another divorce at which time she will invalidate her current marriage with a divorce.

    At the same time she feels absolutely justified in telling gay couples that THEIR marriages “are not valid in the eyes of God”.

    So clearly there is a double standard here. All of Kim Davis sins (and divorces) are covered by her faith alone in Jesus Christ but gay couples must believe in Jesus Christ AND abstain from sin in order to be saved. In other words heterosexual sinners are saved by their “faith alone” but homosexual sinners can only be saved by faith PLUS works.

    The Protestants/Evangelicals who are accepting gay marriage are simply affirming the doctrine of “salvation by faith alone” and refusing to be hypocrites.

    Deep down inside these Protestants/Evangelicals realize that telling anyone that they must DO anything (besides believe in Jesus) in order to be saved is a tacit denial of the doctrine of “salvation by faith alone” and THAT is not an option.

    “If you want to enter life, keep the commandments”

    -Jesus

    Responses (2) +
  • [47] April 26, 2016 at 1:57pm

    “So, no, your daughter is not just having fun and gaining ”confidence” when she listens to Beyonce. She is worshiping at an altar. She is adopting an ideology. She is learning things.”

    Right on target Matt! Excellent points…..Keep doing what you do…..

  • April 26, 2016 at 1:42pm

    Gay marriage is dividing (and will continue to divide) Protestants/Evangelicals like nothing before in the history of Protestantism.

    The doctrine of “salvation by faith alone” is totally powerless to the issues of gay marriage and gay clergy (and all sin) and here is why,

    IF salvation TRULY is by “FAITH ALONE” and sin has NO EFFECT on a person’s salvation (once they believe in Jesus Christ) then who can say that any particular type of sin cuts someone off from the

    “free gift of salvation by faith alone in Jesus Christ” ???

    If abstaining from certain sins (such as homosexual acts) makes a person “right with God” then something the person DID (not their faith alone) saved them…….…period.

    The entire Protestant/Evangelical framework stands or falls on Martin Luther’s doctrine of Sola Fide (salvation by faith alone).

    This doctrine teaches that once a person believes in Jesus Christ ALL of their past, present and FUTURE sins are COVERED (hidden from God) by the blood of Jesus Christ so that whenever a believer sins God does not see them sinning God only sees Jesus righteousness.

    Well if that is true, then homosexual sinners who believe in Jesus Christ have ALL of their sins hidden from God through faith in Jesus Christ just as heterosexual sinners do.

    This is where Martin Luther’s doctrine of “salvation by faith alone” falls flat. If salvation TRULY is by “faith alone” and ALL of a believers sins (including FUTURE sins) are HIDDEN from God by their faith alone then God can’t even see the gay couples sin, God can only see Jesus righteousness.

    So then, the ONLY viable option (for Christians who believe that salvation is by faith alone) is to accept that gay marriage (like all other sins) is “hidden” from God by believing in Jesus. This is the dilemma that is dividing Protestants/Evangelicals and will continue to do so like nothing before in the history of Protestantism.

    This is the 800 lb Protestant/Evangelical elephant in the room. Honest Protesants/Evangeliclas are asking themselves the question,

    “why are ALL of MY sins HIDDEN from God by believing in Jesus Christ but the homosexual who also believes in Jesus is required to abstain from sin in order to be saved?”

    The vast majority (if not all) Protestant churches today have no problem marrying 2 Christians who were previously married and divorced (what Jesus calls Adultery) regardless of the reason(s) for the divorce or the number of divorces.

    For example Kentucky County clerk Kim Davis has been married 4 times and divorced 3 times but not a single Protestant/Evangelical Pastor will say that Kim Davis that is living in adultery and not truly saved. It’s not even an issue to Protestants/Evangelicals.

    As a matter of fact, when Kim Davis went to jail for refusing to issue marriage licenses to gay couples because “their marriages are not valid in the eyes of God” Protestants/Evangelicals (such as Gov Mike Huckabee) rallied to her support and even compared her to the Apostle Paul who was imprisoned for his faith.

    Kim Davis sin-cerely believes that her first 3 marriages were all “valid in the eyes of God” until she personally invalidated them by getting a divorce and she believes that her 4th and current “re-marriage” is “valid in the eyes of God”. That is until she decides that she wants another divorce at which time she will invalidate her current marriage with a divorce.

    At the same time she feels absolutely justified in telling gay couples that THEIR marriages “are not valid in the eyes of God”.

    So clearly there is a double standard here. All of Kim Davis sins (and divorces) are covered by her faith alone in Jesus Christ but gay couples must believe in Jesus Christ AND abstain from sin in order to be saved. In other words heterosexual sinners are saved by their “faith alone” but homosexual sinners can only be saved by faith PLUS works.

    The Protestants/Evangelicals who are accepting gay marriage are simply affirming the doctrine of “salvation by faith alone” and refusing to be hypocrites.

    Deep down inside these Protestants/Evangelicals realize that telling anyone that they must DO anything (besides believe in Jesus) in order to be saved is a tacit denial of the doctrine of “salvation by faith alone” and THAT is not an option.

    “If you want to enter life, keep the commandments”

    -Jesus

    Responses (3) +
  • [1] April 25, 2016 at 12:15pm

    “If you want to enter life, keep the commandments”

    -Jesus

  • April 25, 2016 at 12:06pm

    “If you want to enter life, keep the commandments”

    -Jesus

  • April 25, 2016 at 12:03pm

    Gay marriage is dividing (and will continue to divide) Protestants/Evangelicals like nothing before in the history of Protestantism.

    The doctrine of “salvation by faith alone” is totally powerless to the issues of gay marriage and gay clergy (and all sin) and here is why,

    IF salvation TRULY is by “FAITH ALONE” and sin has NO EFFECT on a person’s salvation (once they believe in Jesus Christ) then who can say that any particular type of sin cuts someone off from the

    “free gift of salvation by faith alone in Jesus Christ” ???

    If abstaining from certain sins (such as homosexual acts) makes a person “right with God” then something the person DID (not their faith alone) saved them…….…period.

    The entire Protestant/Evangelical framework stands or falls on Martin Luther’s doctrine of Sola Fide (salvation by faith alone).

    This doctrine teaches that once a person believes in Jesus Christ ALL of their past, present and FUTURE sins are COVERED (hidden from God) by the blood of Jesus Christ so that whenever a believer sins God does not see them sinning God only sees Jesus righteousness.

    Well if that is true, then homosexual sinners who believe in Jesus Christ have ALL of their sins hidden from God through faith in Jesus Christ just as heterosexual sinners do.

    This is where Martin Luther’s doctrine of “salvation by faith alone” falls flat. If salvation TRULY is by “faith alone” and ALL of a believers sins (including FUTURE sins) are HIDDEN from God by their faith alone then God can’t even see the gay couples sin, God can only see Jesus righteousness.

    So then, the ONLY viable option (for Christians who believe that salvation is by faith alone) is to accept that gay marriage (like all other sins) is “hidden” from God by believing in Jesus. This is the dilemma that is dividing Protestants/Evangelicals and will continue to do so like nothing before in the history of Protestantism.

    This is the 800 lb Protestant/Evangelical elephant in the room. Honest Protesants/Evangeliclas are asking themselves the question,

    “why are ALL of MY sins HIDDEN from God by believing in Jesus Christ but the homosexual who also believes in Jesus is required to abstain from sin in order to be saved?”

    The vast majority (if not all) Protestant churches today have no problem marrying 2 Christians who were previously married and divorced (what Jesus calls Adultery) regardless of the reason(s) for the divorce or the number of divorces.

    For example Kentucky County clerk Kim Davis has been married 4 times and divorced 3 times but not a single Protestant/Evangelical Pastor will say that Kim Davis that is living in adultery and not truly saved. It’s not even an issue to Protestants/Evangelicals.

    As a matter of fact, when Kim Davis went to jail for refusing to issue marriage licenses to gay couples because “their marriages are not valid in the eyes of God” Protestants/Evangelicals (such as Gov Mike Huckabee) rallied to her support and even compared her to the Apostle Paul who was imprisoned for his faith.

    Kim Davis sin-cerely believes that her first 3 marriages were all “valid in the eyes of God” until she personally invalidated them by getting a divorce and she believes that her 4th and current “re-marriage” is “valid in the eyes of God”. That is until she decides that she wants another divorce at which time she will invalidate her current marriage with a divorce.

    At the same time she feels absolutely justified in telling gay couples that THEIR marriages “are not valid in the eyes of God”.

    So clearly there is a double standard here. All of Kim Davis sins (and divorces) are covered by her faith alone in Jesus Christ but gay couples must believe in Jesus Christ AND abstain from sin in order to be saved. In other words heterosexual sinners are saved by their “faith alone” but homosexual sinners can only be saved by faith PLUS works.

    The Protestants/Evangelicals who are accepting gay marriage are simply affirming the doctrine of “salvation by faith alone” and refusing to be hypocrites.

    Deep down inside these Protestants/Evangelicals realize that telling anyone that they must DO anything (besides believe in Jesus) in order to be saved is a tacit denial of the doctrine of “salvation by faith alone” and THAT is not an option.

    “If you want to enter life, keep the commandments”

    -Jesus

    Responses (3) +
  • April 25, 2016 at 12:02pm

    Amen!!!

    “if you want to enter life, keep the commandments”

    -Jesus

  • April 25, 2016 at 11:53am

    @goodman

    As always you try to distract and change the subject. In a previous post you stated,

    “Jesus frequently disobeyed the commandments”

    When I rebuked you for accusing Jesus of “frequently disobeying the commandments” you then accused Jesus (just as the pharisees did) of disobeying the commandment to keep holy the Sabbath.

    This is a lie. You are blaspheming the Holy Spirit. You hyphenate God while accusing our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ of sinning.

    Jesus (God) cannot sin, Jesus (God) cannot disobey Himself. Jesus (God) NEVER disobeyed a single commandment. Jesus (God) is SINLESS. You are a liar and a fraud. Retract your statement. I pray you repent and ask God for forgiveness, it is a terrible thing to fall into the hands of an angry God.

    Heb 4:16
    For we do not have a high priest who is unable to empathize with our weaknesses, but we have one who has been tempted in every way, just as we are–YET HE DID NOT SIN.

    2 Corinthians 5:21
    God made HIM WHO HAD NO SIN to be sin for us, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God.

    1 Peter 1:19
    but with the precious blood of Christ, a lamb WITHOUT BLEMISH OR DEFECT.

    1 Peter 2:22
    HE COMMITTED NO SIN, neither was deceit found in his mouth.

    1 John 3:5
    You know that he appeared in order to take away sins, and IN HIM THERE IS NO SIN.

    I pray you retract your lie and ask God for forgiveness. Your pride has overcome you.

    “If you want to enter life, keep the commandments”

    -Jesus

  • April 25, 2016 at 11:36am

    Gay marriage is dividing (and will continue to divide) Protestants/Evangelicals like nothing before in the history of Protestantism.

    The doctrine of “salvation by faith alone” is totally powerless to the issues of gay marriage and gay clergy (and all sin) and here is why,

    IF salvation TRULY is by “FAITH ALONE” and sin has NO EFFECT on a person’s salvation (once they believe in Jesus Christ) then who can say that any particular type of sin cuts someone off from the

    “free gift of salvation by faith alone in Jesus Christ” ???

    If abstaining from certain sins (such as homosexual acts) makes a person “right with God” then something the person DID (not their faith alone) saved them…….…period.

    The entire Protestant/Evangelical framework stands or falls on Martin Luther’s doctrine of Sola Fide (salvation by faith alone).

    This doctrine teaches that once a person believes in Jesus Christ ALL of their past, present and FUTURE sins are COVERED (hidden from God) by the blood of Jesus Christ so that whenever a believer sins God does not see them sinning God only sees Jesus righteousness.

    Well if that is true, then homosexual sinners who believe in Jesus Christ have ALL of their sins hidden from God through faith in Jesus Christ just as heterosexual sinners do.

    This is where Martin Luther’s doctrine of “salvation by faith alone” falls flat. If salvation TRULY is by “faith alone” and ALL of a believers sins (including FUTURE sins) are HIDDEN from God by their faith alone then God can’t even see the gay couples sin, God can only see Jesus righteousness.

    So then, the ONLY viable option (for Christians who believe that salvation is by faith alone) is to accept that gay marriage (like all other sins) is “hidden” from God by believing in Jesus. This is the dilemma that is dividing Protestants/Evangelicals and will continue to do so like nothing before in the history of Protestantism.

    This is the 800 lb Protestant/Evangelical elephant in the room. Honest Protesants/Evangeliclas are asking themselves the question,

    “why are ALL of MY sins HIDDEN from God by believing in Jesus Christ but the homosexual who also believes in Jesus is required to abstain from sin in order to be saved?”

    The vast majority (if not all) Protestant churches today have no problem marrying 2 Christians who were previously married and divorced (what Jesus calls Adultery) regardless of the reason(s) for the divorce or the number of divorces.

    For example Kentucky County clerk Kim Davis has been married 4 times and divorced 3 times but not a single Protestant/Evangelical Pastor will say that Kim Davis that is living in adultery and not truly saved. It’s not even an issue to Protestants/Evangelicals.

    As a matter of fact, when Kim Davis went to jail for refusing to issue marriage licenses to gay couples because “their marriages are not valid in the eyes of God” Protestants/Evangelicals (such as Gov Mike Huckabee) rallied to her support and even compared her to the Apostle Paul who was imprisoned for his faith.

    Kim Davis sin-cerely believes that her first 3 marriages were all “valid in the eyes of God” until she personally invalidated them by getting a divorce and she believes that her 4th and current “re-marriage” is “valid in the eyes of God”. That is until she decides that she wants another divorce at which time she will invalidate her current marriage with a divorce.

    At the same time she feels absolutely justified in telling gay couples that THEIR marriages “are not valid in the eyes of God”.

    So clearly there is a double standard here. All of Kim Davis sins (and divorces) are covered by her faith alone in Jesus Christ but gay couples must believe in Jesus Christ AND abstain from sin in order to be saved. In other words heterosexual sinners are saved by their “faith alone” but homosexual sinners can only be saved by faith PLUS works.

    The Protestants/Evangelicals who are accepting gay marriage are simply affirming the doctrine of “salvation by faith alone” and refusing to be hypocrites.

    Deep down inside these Protestants/Evangelicals realize that telling anyone that they must DO anything (besides believe in Jesus) in order to be saved is a tacit denial of the doctrine of “salvation by faith alone” and THAT is not an option.

    “If you want to enter life, keep the commandments”

    -Jesus

    Responses (10) +
  • April 25, 2016 at 11:35am

    @goodman

    As always you try to distract and change the subject. In a previous post you stated,

    “Jesus frequently disobeyed the commandments”

    When I rebuked you for accusing Jesus of “frequently disobeying the commandments” you then accused Jesus (just as the pharisees did) of disobeying the commandment to keep holy the Sabbath.

    This is a lie. You are blaspheming the Holy Spirit. You hyphenate God while accusing our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ of sinning.

    Jesus (God) cannot sin, Jesus (God) cannot disobey Himself. Jesus (God) NEVER disobeyed a single commandment. Jesus (God) is SINLESS. You are a liar and a fraud. Retract your statement. I pray you repent and ask God for forgiveness, it is a terrible thing to fall into the hands of an angry God.

    Heb 4:16
    For we do not have a high priest who is unable to empathize with our weaknesses, but we have one who has been tempted in every way, just as we are–YET HE DID NOT SIN.

    2 Corinthians 5:21
    God made HIM WHO HAD NO SIN to be sin for us, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God.

    1 Peter 1:19
    but with the precious blood of Christ, a lamb WITHOUT BLEMISH OR DEFECT.

    1 Peter 2:22
    HE COMMITTED NO SIN, neither was deceit found in his mouth.

    1 John 3:5
    You know that he appeared in order to take away sins, and IN HIM THERE IS NO SIN.

    I pray you retract your lie and ask God for forgiveness. Your pride has overcome you.

    “If you want to enter life, keep the commandments”

    -Jesus

  • April 23, 2016 at 9:26pm

    Indeed

    “If you want to enter life, keep the commandments”

    -Jesus

  • [2] April 23, 2016 at 9:13pm

    @goodman

    In a previous post you stated,

    “Jesus frequently disobeyed the commandments”

    When I rebuked you for accusing Jesus of “frequently disobeying the commandments” you then accused Jesus (just as the pharisees did) of disobeying the commandment to keep holy the Sabbath.

    This is a lie. You are blaspheming the Holy Spirit. You hyphenate God while accusing our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ of sinning.

    Jesus (God) cannot sin, Jesus (God) cannot disobey Himself. Jesus (God) NEVER disobeyed a single commandment. Jesus (God) is SINLESS. You are a liar and a fraud. Retract your statement. I pray you repent and ask God for forgiveness, it is a terrible thing to fall into the hands of an angry God.

    Heb 4:16
    For we do not have a high priest who is unable to empathize with our weaknesses, but we have one who has been tempted in every way, just as we are–YET HE DID NOT SIN.

    2 Corinthians 5:21
    God made HIM WHO HAD NO SIN to be sin for us, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God.

    1 Peter 1:19
    but with the precious blood of Christ, a lamb WITHOUT BLEMISH OR DEFECT.

    1 Peter 2:22
    HE COMMITTED NO SIN, neither was deceit found in his mouth.

    1 John 3:5
    You know that he appeared in order to take away sins, and IN HIM THERE IS NO SIN.

    I pray you retract your lie and ask God for forgiveness. Your pride has overcome you.

    “If you want to enter life, keep the commandments”

    -Jesus

123 To page: Go
Restoring Love