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  • August 28, 2014 at 9:15pm

    @4truth2all

    Romans 2:13
    For it is not those who hear the law who are RIGHTEOUS in God’s sight, but it is those who obey the law who will be declared RIGHTEOUS.

    1 John 3:7
    Dear children, do not let anyone lead you astray. THE ONE WHO DOES WHAT IS RIGHT IS RIGHTEOUS, just as he is RIGHTEOUS.

    1 John 3:12
    Do not be like Cain, who belonged to the evil one and murdered his brother. And why did he murder him? Because his own actions were evil and his brothers were RIGHTEOUS.

    2 Peter 2:4-10
    For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but CAST THEM INTO HELL and committed them to pits of darkness, reserved for judgment; and did not spare the ancient world, but preserved Noah, a preacher of RIGHTEOUS, with seven others, when He brought a flood upon the world of the ungodly; and if He condemned the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah to destruction by reducing them to ashes, having made them an example to those who would live ungodly lives thereafter; and if He rescued RIGHTEOUS Lot, oppressed by the sensual conduct of unprincipled men (for by what he saw and heard that RIGHTEOUS man, while living among them, felt his RIGHTEOUS soul tormented day after day by their lawless deeds), then the Lord knows how to rescue the GODLY from temptation, and to keep the unrighteous under punishment until the day of judgment, and especially those who indulge the flesh in its corrupt desires and despise authority.

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  • August 28, 2014 at 9:12pm

    @4truth2all

    We see above in Psalm 19:13 there is such a thing as “great transgression” or sin that leads to death (1 John 5:16) because (many) Protestants have been taught that ALL sins are EQUAL in Gods eyes they have trouble understanding what it means to be,

    “righteous”, “blameless, “upright”, “perfect”, “innocent” “Godly” and “holy”

    Psalm 37:18
    Day by day the Lord takes care of the innocent, and they will receive an inheritance that lasts forever.

    This false teaching that ALL sins are equal is not biblical and is a stumbling block for many to understanding Gods free gift of salvation paid for by the blood of Jesus Christ.

    Psalm 37:12
    The wicked plot against the GODLY ; they snarl at them in defiance. But the Lord just laughs, for he sees their day of judgment coming.

    Psalm 37:16-17
    It is better to be GODLY and have little than to be evil and rich. For the strength of the wicked will be shattered, but the Lord takes care of the GODLY.

    Psalm 10:3
    The LORD does not let the RIGHTEOUS go hungry, but he thwarts the craving of the wicked

    Psalm 50:22
    Consider this, you who forget God, or I will tear you to pieces, with no one to rescue you: Those who sacrifice thank offerings honor me, and to the BLAMELESS I will show my salvation.”

    Psalm 51:19
    Then you will delight in the sacrifices of the RIGHTEOUS, In burnt offerings offered whole; then bulls will be offered on your altar

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  • August 28, 2014 at 9:03pm

    @4truth2all

    Psalm 19:13
    Keep your servant also from willful sins; may they not rule over me. Then I will be BLAMELESS, innocent of great transgression.

    Proverbs 15:29
    The Lord is FAR from the wicked, but He Hears the prayer of the RIGHTEOUS

    Proverbs 21:15
    When justice is done, it brings joy to the RIGHTEOUS but terror to evildoers

    Proverbs 15:9
    The Lord DETESTS the way of the wicked, but He LOVES those who PURSUE RIGHTEOUSNESS

    Proverbs 15:10
    Stern discipline awaits anyone who LEAVES THE PATH; the one who hates correction WILL DIE

    Isaiah 3:10-11
    Tell the righteous it will be well with them, for they will enjoy the fruit of their deeds. Woe to the wicked! Disaster is upon them! They will be paid back for what their hands have done

    Isaiah 57:2
    Those who WALK UPRIGHTLY enter into peace; they find rest as they lie in death

    Ezekiel 33:13
    If I tell a righteous person that they will SURELY live, but then they TRUST in their righteousness and DO EVIL, none of the righteous things that person has done will be remembered; they will DIE FOR THE EVIL THEY HAVE DONE.

    Luke 1:6
    BOTH OF THEM WERE RIGHTEOUS IN THE SIGHT OF GOD, OBSERVING ALL THE LORD’S COMMANDS AND DECREES BLAMELESSLY.

    Luke 2:25
    Now there was a man in Jerusalem called Simeon, who was RIGHTEOUS and devout.

    James 5:16
    Therefore confess your sins to each other and pray for each other so that you may be healed. The prayer of a RIGHTEOUS person is powerful and effective.

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  • August 28, 2014 at 8:50pm

    @4truth2all

    Psalm 18:20-25
    The Lord has dealt with me according to my righteousness; according to the cleanness of my hands He has rewarded me. For I have KEPT the ways of the Lord; I am not guilty of turning from my God. All His laws are before me; I have not turned away from His decrees. I have been blameless before Him and have KEPT MYSELF FROM SIN. The Lord has rewarded me according to my righteousness, according to the cleanness of my hands in His sight. To the faithful you show yourself faithful, to the blameless you show yourself blameless,

    There is a difference between never having sinned (being sinless) and repenting and turning from our sins and obeying Gods commands. We know that every human being in the Bible who is “righteous” or “blameless” or “upright” has committed sins at some point in their lives. The reason they are “righteous” or “blameless” or “upright” is because they repented and turned from sin and walked in obedience to Gods will.

    Proverbs 10:2
    Ill-gotten treasures have no lasting value, but RIGHTEOUSNESS delivers from death

    Proverbs 10:16
    The wages of the RIGHTEOUS is LIFE but the earnings of the wicked are sin and death.

    Proverbs 10:29
    The way of the LORD is a refuge for the BLAMELESS, but it is the ruin of those who do evil

    Proverbs 15:9
    The Lord DETESTS the way of the wicked, but He LOVES those who PURSUE RIGHTEOUSNESS

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  • August 28, 2014 at 8:34pm

    @4truth2all

    To elaborate on this point, Jesus Christ is God incarnate, the God/Man, fully human and fully God. Jesus has both a DIVINE nature and a HUMAN nature. Jesus felt sadness, fear, doubt and was tempted in the desert. God is perfect and does not experience sadness, fear, doubt or temptation. That being said when Jesus experienced all of these human emotions in the Bible it was His HUMAN nature experiencing these things and it was His HUMAN nature that did not give into temptation and sin. Jesus fully human nature experienced the same things that we do but He did not sin. Jesus fully human nature FULFILLED the law. Jesus is our model. So we can be “perfect” (not sinless) by obeying Gods commands just as Jesus fully human nature became “perfect” through obedience. (Hebrew 5:8-9)

    MANY people confuse “righteousness” , “blameless” and “upright” with being sinless. The “righteous”, “blameless” and “upright” are those who obey Gods commands.

    Psalm 11:7
    For the LORD is righteous, He loves justice; THE UPRIGHT will see His face

    Psalm 18:20-25
    The Lord has dealt with me according to my righteousness; according to the cleanness of my hands He has rewarded me. For I have KEPT the ways of the Lord; I am not guilty of turning from my God. All His laws are before me; I have not turned away from His decrees. I have been blameless before Him and have KEPT MYSELF FROM SIN.

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  • August 28, 2014 at 8:18pm

    @4truth2all

    Acts 10:34-35
    Then Peter began to speak: “I now realize how true it is that God does not show favoritism but accepts from every nation THE ONE WHO FEARS HIM AND DOES WHAT IS RIGHT.

    1 John 2:3
    We know that we have come to know Him IF we KEEP HIS COMMANDS

    Eccl 12:13
    Fear God and KEEP His commandments, for THIS IS THE DUTY OF ALL MANKIND

    Matt 19:17
    “…IF you want to ENTER LIFE, KEEP the commandments.”

    1 John 2:4
    Whoever says, “I know him,” but DOES NOT DO WHAT HE COMMANDS IS A LIAR, AND THE TRUTH IS NOT IN HIM.

    Protestant theology lumps works of the law (the Mosaic works of the law) together with Gods commandments. Lumping the 2 together is very poor Exegesis, there is a very distinct difference between the two.

    Obedience to God has always resulted in life, disobeying God has always resulted in death,the ransom was paid by Jesus Christ so that all who obey God can enter into eternal life. Prior to Jesus sacrifice there were “righteous” people who obeyed God but their “righteousness” (obedience) did not deserve eternal life. Only by FOLLOWING Jesus Christ (which includes obedience to the Father and the Lordship of His Son) can we inherit eternal life. Not because our obedience “deserves” it because Jesus blood on the cross reconciles us with God. The part that MANY people miss is that obedience to God has always been and still is required. Jesus did not abolish the need for obedience to God.

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  • August 28, 2014 at 8:01pm

    @4truth2all

    You wrote
    “The Ten Commandments were there to show us that we CANNOT gain entrance into The Kingdom by KEEPING the Law”

    Where in the Bible does it say that God gave us the 10 commadments “to show us that we cannot gain entrance into the Kingdom by keep the law”?

    Leviticus 18:5
    KEEP my decrees and laws, for the person who OBEYS them will live by them. I am the LORD.

    Deuteronomy 13:4
    It is the LORD your God you MUST FOLLOW, and Him you must revere. KEEP His Commands and OBEY Him; serve Him and hold fast to Him

    Joshua 22:5
    But be very careful to KEEP the commandment and the law that Moses the servant of the LORD gave you: to love the LORD your God, to WALK IN OBEDIENCE to him, to KEEP his Commands, to hold fast to him and to serve him with all your heart and with all your soul.

    John 14:15
    IF you love me KEEP my Commands.

    John 14:21
    Whoever has my Commands and KEEPS them is the one who loves me. The one who loves me will be loved by my Father, and I too will love them and show myself to them

    John 15:10
    If you KEEP my Commands, you will remain in my love, just as I have kept my Father’s Commands and remain in His love.

    John 15:14
    You are my friends IF you DO what I command.

    Acts 10:34-35
    Then Peter began to speak: “I now realize how true it is that God does not show favoritism but accepts from every nation THE ONE WHO FEARS HIM AND DOES WHAT IS RIGHT.

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  • August 28, 2014 at 7:50pm

    @4truth2all

    You wrote

    “Scripture explains scripture … scripture confirms scripture!”

    Nowhere in the bible does it say “scripture explains scripture” In the Bible (Acts 8:7) Phillip had to explain the scriptures to the Eunuch. In Luke (24:45) Jesus had to explain the scriptures to the Apostles. So we know from scripture that not even the Apostles themselves (who lived and learned directly from the numer one theologian Jesus Christ) understood the scriptures, they needed an authoritative interpreter (Jesus Christ) to explain the scriptures to them. Again, you claim is not biblical. Lasty the Bible says that the CHURCH (not the Bible) is “the pilar and foundation of truth” (1 Tim 3:15) Jesus NEVER mentions the Bible. I am not saying the Bible is not important, just pointing out biblical facts.

    You wrote

    “read Romans 9….”

    I have, again Gods message to us in scripture is BOTH Romans 9 and Romans 2 it’s not EITHER Romans 9 OR Romans 2. So Gods message in Romans is,

    “It does not, therefore, depend on man’s DESIRE or EFFORT, but on God’s mercy AND God will repay each person according to what they have done AND To those who by persistence in doing good seek glory, honor and immortality he will give eternal life AND For it is not those who HEAR the law who are righteous in Gods sight but it is those who OBEY the law who WILL BE declared righteous.

    Both/And not Either/Or

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  • August 28, 2014 at 7:38pm

    @4truth2all

    I will readily admit that there are some in the catholic faith who do not clearly understand the churches teachings regarding Mary and unfortunately over emphasize Mary to the point of abuse but that is not what the catholic church teaches. Adoration and Worship are for God and God alone. Look up the Greek words “dulia”, “hyperdulia” and “latria” for a more detailed look at this topic.

    You wrote

    “I realize that the bible does not say the bible alone … wisdom tells me the bible alone”

    Precisely, thank you for admitting that you did not learn the “bible alone” doctrine from the Bible but came to this knowlege by your personal “wisdom” the problem is our personal “wisdom” is not above the word of God.

    You wrote

    “If God can create billions of galaxies with billions of stars in each I trust that He can write a book….”

    I agee the Bible didn’t just fall out of the sky. How did God assemble the book? Who did God use to declare the canon? You are ignoring historical facts. The catholic church determined the canon.

    “scripture says all scripture is God breathed I trust that HE oversaw that entire process”

    I agree. Again, the part you are ignoring is that God guided the catholic church to declare which writings were scriptural. The “Bible” did not exist until a council of catholic bishops (guided by the Holy Spirit) declared which writings were (an were not) scriptural.

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  • August 28, 2014 at 7:22pm

    @4truth2all

    You wote,

    “What is an evangelical to you …?”

    Evangelicals believe MANY different things and do not agree about what is necessary for salvation. As an Evangelical I affirmed the doctrines of Sola Fide (salvation by faith alone apart from obedience to God) also known as the “carnal Christian” doctrine (accepting Jesus as Savior but not as Lord) , Eternal Security also known as “once saved always saved” and Sola Scriptura (scripture alone as the only authority)

    You wrote,

    “ANY saved person has the “keys”

    Where in the Bible does it say any saved person has the key? At best this is supposition based on manmade theology. Jesus gave the keys to Peter and to Peter alone and made no claim that “any saved person has the keys” That’s just not biblical.

    You wrote

    “Mary … is nobody special above others … ”

    The Bible says in (Luke 1:28) when the Angel of the Lord greeted Mary he said “Hail, thou that art highly favoured, the Lord is with thee: blessed art thou among women” The Angel of the Lord did not say “Hail, thou that art nobody special above others” The Greek word used here kecharitōmenē only occurs one time in the Bible and ONLY referring to Mary. So you are free to believe what you wish but the Bible is clear that Mary is kecharitōmenē (highly favored by God) Nowhere else in the Bible do we see an Angel of the Lord telling anyone they are “highly favored” by God or blessed among others.

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  • August 28, 2014 at 6:20pm

    @4truth2all

    You wrote

    “Concerning the trinity… not sure why you went there..”

    Sorry about that, I will try to be clearer. The point I was making is this. If you are consistent in your interpretation of the scriptures and your principle of “scripture alone” then you should reject anythng not explicitly taught in scripture and only accept what is explicitly taught (where scripture speaks, speak and where scripture is silent remain silent) You also must reject any public revelation / doctrine that came AFTER the last Apostle died.

    Not Jesus or any Apostle or any Prophet EVER taught anyone that God is a “Trinity” or that God is 3 distinct persons. This doctrine was determined by the catholic church over 400 years after the last Apostle died. So if you are true to your own principle of “scripture alone” you would reject the doctrine of the trinity but you (and many others) do not.

    Jesus and the Apostles NEVER told anyone to add anythng to the Bible. The Bible actually says (2 Cor 3:6) that “new testament” letters killeth.

    The catholic church added the “new testament” to scripture over 400 years AFTER the last Apostle died. Why do you (and many others) accept as the word of God writings that a “false church” added to the Bible 400 years after the last Apostle died when nowhere in the Bible does it mention those letters or say to add them to the Bible?

    This is my point, understand now?

    God Bless

  • August 28, 2014 at 6:00pm

    @4truth2all

    You wrote that you have issue with the girls questions regarding the literal interpretation of the world in Genesis. Several coments/observations

    1. Scripture says that a “day” to God is as a thousand years. If a “day” is as a thousand years to God then God could have created the earth over a 7000 year period. Either way, what dfference does the period of time have to do with what is necessary for salvation?

    2 Peter 3:8
    But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day

    2. Many people interpret the Bible using the (inconsistent) floating theology principle. The floating theology principle is where the verses that support what they believe are taken literally (John 3:16) but the verses that contradict what they believe (James 2:24) and (John 6:55) and (1 Cor 11:27-29) are taken symbolically and/or ignored. Likewise any verses that condemn sinful behavior are “hard” verses or a “mystery”

    1 Cor 11:27-29
    So then, whoever eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner will be guilty of sinning against the body and blood of the Lord. Everyone ought to examine themselves before they eat of the bread and drink from the cup. For those who eat and drink without discerning the body of Christ eat and drink judgment on themselves.

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  • [1] August 28, 2014 at 5:40pm

    Interesting,

    So the Christians who are looking at pornography several times day are “saved” and going to heaven but the non-Christians who do not look at pornography are going to hell……. beause they are not “Christians”

    The message seems to be if you want to look at pornography several times a week and still go to heaven, become a “Christian”

    Matt 7:21
    Not everyone who says to me Lord Lord will enter the kingdom of heaven but ONLY those who obey the will of my Father in heaven.

    God Bless

  • August 26, 2014 at 7:10pm

    ” We must “consider the whole council of God.”

    I agree completely. We should not ignore any of Gods words in the Bible. No verses cancel out other verses and no verses are optional. All verses go together and all of Gods words are EQUAL in weight, nothing God says is insignificant. God does not tell us to CHOOSE which verses we obey.

    In scripture God is not telling us to choose which verses we obey, God is not saying EITHER Ephesians 2:8-10 OR Ephesians 5:5. God is saying obey BOTH Ephesians 2:8-10 AND Ephesians 5:5. It’s not EITHER – OR it’s BOTH-AND

    If we follow your advice and take the WHOLE COUNSEL OF GOD into account then Gods message in Ephesians is BOTH

    For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith — and this not of yourselves, for it is the GIFT of God

    AND

    The acts of the flesh are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that THOSE WHO LIVE LIKE THIS WILL NOT INHERIT THE KINGDOM OF GOD.

    As you say, we must take the WHOLE counsel of God into account, not just pick what we like. Jesus is both LORD and SAVIOR not just Savior.

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  • August 26, 2014 at 6:26pm

    @4trut2all

    Sorry about that, I post in between bottle refills and diaper changes.

    You wrote

    “I am not quite sure how you believe the Catholic church is the true church based on the awful history of it.”

    If you are searching for a church with sinless men not even Jesus had one. Of the 12 Apostles 1 betrayed Jesus for gold, 1 denied Him 3 times and 9 abandoned Him at the cross, only one (John) remained with Him.

    Jesus told the people that the Scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses seat so do what they say not what they do. The head Bishop (Pope) sits in Peters seat and Jesus placed the keys to the kingdom of heaven and earth on Peters sit (not on EVERY believer) . Jesus also tells us that the church will be filled with sheep and goats, wheat and tares until He comes again. If you are searching for the sinless church it does not exist. A church can have right doctrine even though it’s members are sinful. After all , we are all sinners.

    Jesus gave His Keys (authority) to Peter and Peter alone (Isaiah 22:22).

    When the Apostles were arguing about which of them was chief among them Jesus interrupted them and told Peter that Satan wished to sift all of them but Jesus prayed for Peter (alone) that Peter would remain faithful and said “when you have turned, strengthen your bretheren” (Luke 22:32)

    I trust in Jesus words and His promises. Jesus said that the gates of hell will never prevail against His church and I BELEVE Him.

    God Bless

  • August 26, 2014 at 2:38am

    @4truth2all

    You wrote,

    “Bible alone … it does in one way say that in that it says to NOT ADD or SUBTRACT from it. One could say that I take that out of context … I can say they do. So ok, I have NEVER heard of ANYONE writing a biography and saying, ” go ahead and add or take from this as you see fit.”

    I completely agree.

    So tell me why,

    1. You accept a Bible that Protestants removed 7 books from? The original 1611 King James Bible contained 7 books that were removed by Protestants. The Bible does not say to remove those books so why were they removed from the original Bible?

    2. Where in the Bible does it list the books that belong in the Bible?

    3. Where in the Bible does Jesus or any of the Apostles say that a “New Testament” should be added to the Bible?

    4. If the Bible doesnt say that all of the new testament writings are the word of God why do you believe that they are?

    5. Where in the Bible is the doctrine of the Holy Trinity?

    6. Why did the catholic church add all of the new testament writings to the Bible over 400 years after the last Apostle died if all revelation ended with the last Apostle?

    7. Why do you accept the doctrine of the Trinity and the writings that the caholic church added to the Bible over 400 years after the last Apostle died when the Bible doesn’t mentiona “new testament” or a “trinity” a single time?

    God Bless

  • August 26, 2014 at 2:04am

    @4truth2all

    you wrote,

    “I whole heartedly agree that it is extremely important and [necessary] for salvation that Jesus is LORD and SAVIOUR. If He is not Lord, He is not savior. Can He be savior and not Lord. I do not think so. The Lord part is what makes a follower and not a hello person.… Grace does not make it OK to sin , grace is what God gives to stop it.”

    I agree, so whats the problem?

    It seems pretty clear that there is a battle going on between what you believe and what the Bible says. The verses that I posted are not “my verses” they are
    “Gods verses” I didnt explain any of them I simply posted them and you came to your own conclusions. Your argument is not with me it is with Go and His word. The ones who crucified Jesus believed that His words and teachings were harsh and made them feel convicted. Many in this forum also believe that Gods words regarding homosexuality are not soft and loving but Gods ways are not our ways. If you sincerely believe that Gods words are not soft enough and seem unloving then the best advice i can offer you is to pray to God and tell Him. I cannot speak for God I can only share his word.

    Peace in Christ.

    God Bless

  • August 22, 2014 at 7:55pm

    I encourage you to study what the early church believed and taught and how they worshippd God, study how the Bible came to be (Jesus Christ and the Apostles did not have and NEVER mentioned a “Bible” or the “Bible Alone”)

    Study how all of the other faiths came into being (who founded them, when and why?) compare everthing that you read and see what conclusions you come to.

    Consider the fact that Jesus gave the keys to the kingdom of haven and earth to Peter and Peter alone. Consider the fact that AFTER Jesus told the people that His body is REAL food and His blood is REAL drink He then held up bread saying THIS IS MY BODY and held up the cup saying THIS IS MY BLOOD.

    Consider the fact that when Jesus told the Apostles “whose sins you FORGIVE are forgiven….whose sins you RETAIN are retained” He said this AFTER He had died to forgive all sins. Consider the fact that when asked what a person must do to have eternal life Jesus replied “keep the commandments” Consider the fact that under the Old Covenant children (who could not choose to accept God) were circumcized. Consider the fact Adam and Eve were not condemned for not BELIEVING in God (the knew for a fact that God existed) they were condemned for DISOBEYING God.

    I wish you peace in Christ, I will be praying for you.

    “To be deep in history is to cease to be Protestant”

    – Cardinal Newman

  • August 22, 2014 at 3:53pm

    During this time I also heard on the radio that the President of the Evangelical Theological Society (Francis Beckwith) resigned and becamea Catholic.

    In searching his story on the Internet I found many stories about Evagelical/Protstant Pastors and theologians who had or were converting to the Catholic faith

    I also read several books by former Protestants such as

    “Surprised by Truth” by Patrick Madrid

    “Born Fundamentalist Born Again Catholic” by David Currie

    “Rome Sweet Home” by Scott Hahn

    I also read G.K. Chesterton and Cardinal John Henry Newman. My reading and Internet searches also led me to

    http://www.biblechristiansociety.com/

    and

    http://www.newadvent.org

    and

    EWTN on youtube.

    On EWTN on yotube I found many conversion stories by former Evangelical/Protestant Pastors and theologians that I could not refute using the Bible. .

    Pentecostal Pastor
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxDumU0TSrY

    Baptist Preacher
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qiMWR9Kx64I

    Southern Baptist
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1npdWMx98k

    Assembly of God Minister
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLsBVRn1U_0

    Non-Denominational
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P91PA2RpbSE

    Jehovah Witness
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKJPOncjgv8

    Mormon Missionary
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Myqx0Iy4cLY

    Methodist
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8rgCY5lyHo

    Presbyterian Pastor
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bC_cjqqTRAk

    Presbyterian
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5NT32Y-Mrk

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  • August 22, 2014 at 3:01pm

    as tme went on and the deeper I studied history and compared Protestant teachings/doctrines with what is written in the Bible and what the early church fathers believed and taught I began to have doubts about the doctrines of “salvation by faith alone apart from obedience to Gods word” (aka the “carnal Christian” doctrine) and “once saved always saved” and “scripture alone” at the same time the Holy Spirit was doing a work in me and I was realizin that while I was claiming faith in Jesus Christ I had not actually accepted Jesus Christ as Lord. I was continuing to live in sin satisfying my flesh. So while I claimed Jesus Christ as my savior and claimed to be “saved” I hadn’t actually taken up my cross and denied myself and accepted Jesus Christ as LORD. I was in fact a “carnal Christian” but sin-cerely believed I was “saved” …….scripture is clear that I was not (Matt 7:21) I have no doubt that anyone who reads the Bible and the history of the church (not just tracts and websites but the actually documented history of Christianity) and the writings of the early church martyrs (Cyprian, Clement, Polycarp, Ignatius, Irenaeus, Augustine, Justin Martyr etc) will see that the doctrines of “salvation by faith alone apart from obedience to Gods word” and “once saved always saved” are not biblical and are man made doctrines that were NEVER taught by Jesus or any Apostle.

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