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  • February 11, 2016 at 6:14pm

    “We must get over our prudery and teach what the Word of God actually instructs. This includes the uncomfortable parts of the Bible”

    Indeed,

    James 2:24
    you see that a man is justified by what he does and NOT BY FAITH ALONE

    1 John 1:6
    This is the message we have heard from him and declare to you: God is light; IN HIM THERE IS NO DARKNESS AT ALL. If we CLAIM to have fellowship with him and yet WALK IN DARKNESS, we LIE and DO NOT live out the truth.

    1 John 1:7
    But IF WE WALK IN THE LIGHT, as He is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the Blood of Jesus cleans us of all sin.

    1 John 2:3
    We know that we have come to know Him IF we KEEP HIS COMMANDS

    1 John 2:4
    Whoever says, “I know him,” but DOES NOT DO WHAT HE COMMANDS IS A LIAR, AND THE TRUTH IS NOT IN HIM.

    1 John 3:6
    NO ONE WHO LIVES IN HIM KEEPS ON SINNING. NO ONE WHO CONTINUES TO SIN HAS EITHER SEEN HIM OR KNOWN HIM.

    1 John 3:7
    Dear children, do not let anyone lead you astray. The one who DOES what is right is RIGHTEOUS, just as He is righteous.

    1 John 3:8
    The one who DOES what is sinful is of the devil, because the devil has been sinning from the beginning. The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the devil’s work

    1 John 3:9
    NO ONE who is BORN OF GOD will CONTINUE TO SIN, because God’s seed remains in them; they CANNOT go on sinning, because they have been born of God

    1 John 3:10
    This is how we know who the children of God are and who the children of the devil are: ANYONE who does NOT do what is right IS NOT GODS CHILD, nor is anyone who DOES NOT love their brother and sister.

    1 John 3:15
    Anyone who hates a brother or sister is a murderer, and you know that no murderer HAS ETERNAL LIFE residing in him.

    1 John 3:17-18
    Dear children, let us not love with WORDS or speech BUT with ACTIONS and in truth

    1 John 3:21-22
    Dear friends, if our hearts do not condemn us, we have confidence before God and receive from him anything we ask, BECAUSE we KEEP his Commands and do what pleases him.

    1 John 3:24
    The one who KEEPS God’s Commands lives in him, and he in them

    1 John 5:2
    This is how we know that we love the children of God: by loving God and CARRYING OUT his Commands

    1 John 5:3-4
    In fact, this is love for God: to KEEP HIS COMMANDS. And his Commands are NOT burdensome, for EVERYONE born of God overcomes the world

    1 John 5:16
    If anyone sees His brother committing a sin not leading to death, He shall ask, and God will give Him life—to those who commit sins that do not lead to death. There is sin that leads to death; I do not say that one should pray for that. All wrongdoing is sin, but there is sin that does not lead to death.

    1 John 4:20-21
    Whoever claims to love God yet hates a brother or sister is a liar. For whoever does not love their brother and sister, whom they have seen, CANNOT love God, whom they have not seen. And He has given us this Command: Anyone who loves God MUST ALSO love their brother and sister

    2 John 1:6
    And this is love: that we WALK IN OBEDIENCE TO HIS COMMANDS. As you have heard from the beginning, his command is that you walk in love

    3 John 1:11
    Dear friend, do not imitate what is evil but what is good. Anyone who DOES what is good is from God. Anyone who DOES WHAT IS EVIL HAS NOT SEEN GOD

    “if you want to enter life, keep the commandments”

    -Jesus

  • [1] February 10, 2016 at 3:51pm

    @hillaryclinton

    “My study of the Bible, my many conversations with people of faith, has led me to believe the most important commandment is to love the Lord with all your might and to love your neighbor as yourself and that is what I think we are commanded by Christ to do,”

    In the Gospel of Matthew when the Scribes and the Pharisees asked Jesus which is the greatest commandment of the law Jesus replied,

    Matt 22:
    Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind. This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’All the Law and the Prophets HANG on these two commandments.

    The reason that Jesus said ALL of the law and the Prophets HANG on these 2 commandments is this,

    When God gave Moses the 10 Commandments the 10 Commandments were written on 2 stone tablets.

    1. On the FIRST stone tablet God wrote only the commandments that tell us HOW to LOVE GOD.

    2. On the SECOND stone tablet God wrote only the commandments that tell us HOW to LOVE OUR NEIGHBOR

    This is why Jesus said “ALL of the LAW and the Prophets HANGS on these 2 Great Commandments”. In obeying the 10 Commandments a Christian can BE SURE that they are obeying the 2 Greatest Commands. On the other hand if a person is NOT obeying the 10 Commandments that person can BE SURE they are NOT obeying the 2 Great Commands. Pretty straight forward wouldn’t you say?

    GOD IS GOOD!!! CAN I GET AN AMEN?!!!

    Sadly many Christians today have been taught that when Jesus died He DID AWAY WITH Gods law and now the only thing that a person must do to have eternal life is simply “believe in Jesus Christ”

    These false teachers do not say that Jesus “abolished” the 10 Commandments instead they say that Jesus “fulfilled” the 10 Commandments so that Christians no longer have to.

    In other words they replace the word “abolish” with the word “fulfill” but then also change the definition of “fulfill” to mean “end”. This is analagous to replacing the word “abortion” with the word “choice”. Choice is a nicer less obvious way of saying murder and our culture likes nicer words.

    The problem with this false teaching is it makes Jesus say “I did not come to abolish the law but to end it” as if that makes any sense at all. Again, different word, same result, Jesus essentially “murders” Gods law by obeying it. There is also another problem with this false teaching. Jesus goes on to say,

    Matt 5:18
    … For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, WILL BY ANY MEANS DISAPPEAR FROM THE LAW until EVERYTHING is accomplished.

    Jesus also goes on to say,

    Matt 5:20
    For I tell you that unless your RIGHTEOUSNESS surpasses that of the Pharisees and the teachers of the law, you CERTAINLY WILL NOT ENTER THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN.

    And who are the righteous? The Bible says,

    Luke 1:6
    BOTH of them were RIGHTEOUS in the sight of God OBEYING ALL OF THE LORDS COMMANDMENTS AND DECREES BLAMELESSLY.

    Rom 2:13
    it is not those who hear the law who are righteous in Gods sight it is THOSE WHO OBEY THE LAW WHO WILL BE DECLARED RIGHTEOUS

    Later when Jesus is asked what a person must do to have eternal life Jesus does not say “I put an end to Gods laws so just believe in Me” Jesus replies,

    Matt 19:17
    if you want to enter life, KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS

    The Apostle Paul who never actually met Jesus in the flesh writes,

    1 Cor 7:9
    Circumcision is nothing and uncircumcision is nothing KEEPING THE COMMANDMENTS IS WHAT MATTERS

    so scripture is very clear that we cannot EXCEPT Gods Commandments and ACCEPT Jesus Christ. Jesus and the Father are ONE. The man made doctrine that Jesus died so that we can live according the flesh and disobey God and still go to heaven is VERY appealing to our sinful nature ESPECIALLY to a generation that is addicted to gratifying the desires of the flesh…. it’s just not biblical.

    The Apostle Paul warns,

    Rom 8:13
    For IF YOU LIVE ACCORDING TO THE FLESH YOU WILL DIE; BUT IF by the Spirit YOU PUT TO DEATH THE MISDEEDS OF THE BODY YOU WILL LIVE.

    Yeah I know, you have a verse from Paul that contradicts that…see above

    Eph 5:5
    For OF THIS YOU CAN BE SURE: NO IMMORAL, IMPURE or greedy person–such a person is an idolater–HAS ANY INHERITANCE IN THE KINGDOM OF CHRIST AND OF GOD

    A person can claim to love God “with all of her might” and to “love her neighbor as herself” (and many do) but if they belong to a church that teaches that Gods Commandments are “impossible to obey” and that Jesus put an end to obeying Gods Commandments – aka salvation by faith alone – (James 2:24) they are deceived for Jesus told us that ALL of the LAW and the PROPHETS HANG on the 10 Commandments.

    The Methodist church allows (and Hillary supports) gay marriage, gay clergy and abortion. None of these things are “biblical” or “Christian” nor are they in keeping with Gods Commandments.

    Matt 7:21-23
    Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but ONLY THE ONE WHO DOES THE WILL OF MY FATHER who is in heaven. Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not PROPHESY in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’ Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. GET AWAY FROM ME YOU WHO BREAK GODS LAWS!.

    Now some of you who read this will become angry and immediately search for a verse from Paul that SEEMS to contradict Jesus. If so, I simply ask you what Paul asks you,

    1 Cor 1:13
    Is Christ divided? Was Paul crucified for you? Were you baptized in the name of Paul?

    And I remind you that scripture warns us that Pauls letters are difficult to understand and ignorant and unstable people will distort Pauls writings to their own destruction teaching lawlessness.

    2 Peter 3:16
    His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction.Therefore, dear friends, since you have been forewarned, be on your guard so that YOU MAY NOT BE CARRIED AWAY BY THE ERROR OF THE LAWLESS and FALL FROM YOUR SECURE POSITION.

    Scripture also warns,

    Jude 1:4
    For certain individuals whose CONDEMNATION was written about long ago have SECRETLY SLIPPED IN AMOUNG YOU. They are UNGODLY people, who PERVERT THE GRACE OF OUR GOD into a LICENSE FOR IMMORALITY and deny Jesus Christ our only Sovereign and Lord.

    “I think there are many different ways of exercising your faith”

    Indeed…..Today there are over 40,000 different “bible based”, churches who disagree about what is (and is not) “essential” for salvation.

    Today every form of sin imaginable (divorce and remarriage, adultery,fornication, gay marriage, chemical or surgical contra-ception, sterilization, surgical and/or chemical abortion, masturbation, female ordination, gay ordination, transgenderism etc) is not only permitted but even being carried out in Jesus name in one of these churches.

    All of the sins listed above are being accepted according to the doctrines of “salvation by faith alone” and eternal security (aka once saved always saved) A person simply needs to find a “church” that happens to accept whatever form of sin they accept and join that church.

    If you truly want to love God with all of your might and love your neighbor as yourself simply do what Jesus tells you to do, keep the commandments…..

    Now all of the “Disciples of Paul” who distort Pauls words to contradict our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ unleash your confusion….

    “if you want to enter life, keep the commandments”

    -Jesus

  • February 9, 2016 at 9:09pm

    @G-odman

    “For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes – Romans 10:4″

    You continue to distort and pervert isolated verses from Pauls letters to teach that Christ died for you so that you can disobey God and go to heaven. People like you were prophecied (warned about) in scripture.

    2 Peter 3:16
    His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which IGNORANT AND UNSTABLE PEOPLE DISTORT, as they do the other Scriptures, TO THEIR OWN DESTRUCTION. Therefore, dear friends, since you have been forewarned, be on your guard so that you may not be carried away LAWLESS and FALL FROM YOUR SECURE POSITION.

    Jude 1:4
    For certain individuals WHOSE CONDEMNATION WAS WRITTEN ABOUT LONG AGO have secretly slipped in among you. They are UNGODLY people, who PERVERT THE GRACE OF OUR GOD into a LISCENSE FOR IMMORALITY.

    Why do you continue to mock Jesus death on the cross by teaching that Jesus death on the cross allows you to sin and reject Gods commandments? Why do you continue to pit Pauls words against Jesus teachings in the Gospels?

    1 Cor 1:13
    Is Christ divided? Was Paul crucified for you? Were you baptized in the name of Paul?

    Paul makes makes it VERY clear that “KEEPING GODS COMMANDMENTS IS WHAT COUNTS”

    1 Cor 7:19
    Circumcision is nothing and uncircumcision is nothing. KEEPING GODS COMMANDMENTS IS WHAT COUNTS.

    We see futher explicit evidence of this in Pauls other letters to the churches such as Eph 5:5, Gal 5:19, 1 Cor 6:9, Heb 5:9 (which you ignore and/or try to explain away by distorting 4 or 5 isolated verses in Pauls letters)

    “Jesus alone fulfilled the law and commandments in our place so we could be free.”

    Indeed. Where your thinking is unbiblical is in believing that Jesus makes you FREE to sin and disobey God. Jesus did not suffer and die for you so that you can be FREE to sin and disobey God. Your definition of “FREE” is a perversion of the Gospel and is mocking God.

    Matt 13:41
    The Son of Man will send out his angels, and they will weed out of HIS KINGDOM EVERYTHING that causes sin and ALL WHO DO EVIL. They will throw them into the blazing furnace, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth. Then the RIGHTEOUS will shine like the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Whoever has ears, let them hear

    And who are the “righteous”?

    Rom 2:13
    it is not those who hear the law who are righteous in Gods sight it is those who OBEY THE LAW who WILL BE DECLARED RIGHTEOUS

    Luke 1:6
    BOTH of them were RIGHTEOUS in the sight of God OBEYING ALL of the Lords Commandments and decrees BLAMELESSLY

    Matt 25
    They also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?’

    “He will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, WHATEVER YOU DID NOT DO FOR THE LEAST OF THESE YOU DID NOT DO FOR ME.’

    “Then they will go away TO ETERNAL PUNISHMENT, but THE RIGHTEOUS TO ETERNAL LIFE.”

    John 9:31
    We know that God DOES NOT LISTEN TO SINNERS. He listens to THE GODLY PERSON who DOES HIS WILL

    Matt 7:21-23
    Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but ONLY the one who DOES THE WILL OF MY FATHER who is in heaven will enter. “Many will say to Me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not PROPHECY in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform many miracles?’“And then I will declare to them, ‘I NEVER KNEW YOU; DEPART FROM ME, YOU WHO PRACTICE LAWLESSNESS

    You continue to distort Pauls writings (which is prophesied in 2 Peter 3:16) I pray that you will stop mocking God and distorting the words of scripture to teach disobedience salvation (aka Carnal Christianity)

    “Therefore the Law has become our tutor to lead us to Christ”

    The law cannot LEAD you to Christ if you do not FOLLOW. You believe that you can “follow” Jesus Christ by disobeying His Father. You think that you can BELIEVE in Jesus while disbelieving Gods commandments. You think you can EXCEPT Gods Commandments and ACCEPT Jesus Christ. This thinking is double minded. Jesus and the Father are ONE. When Jesus was asked what a person must do to have eternal life Jesus did not say “you are free to sin” Jesus said,

    Matt 19:17
    if you want to enter life, keep the commandments”

    Jesus also said, go and sin no more. Jesus knowing all things knew that there would one day be scoffers like you who would pervert the grace of God into a liscense for imorrality.

    1 Jude 4
    For certain individuals whose condemnation was written about long ago have secretly slipped in among you. They are UNGODLY people, who PERVERT THE GRACE OF OUR GOD into a LISCENSE FOR IMMORALITY.

    “so that we may be justified by faith”

    True life saving faith does not disobey God. Faith that indulges in sin is no faith at all. Living in sin does not justify anyone. True life saving “faith” does not teach that Gods commandments are impossible to obey. It is written,

    James 2:20
    You FOOLISH PERSON, do you want evidence that faith without deeds is USELESS ? Was not our FATHER Abraham considered RIGHTEOUS for WHAT HE DID when he offered his son Isaac on the altar? You see that his faith and his actions were working together, and HIS FAITH WAS MADE COMPLETE BY WHAT HE DID. And the scripture was fulfilled that says, “Abraham BELIEVED God, and it was CREDITED to him as righteousness.

    James 2:24
    You see that a man is JUSTIFIED by WHAT HE DOES and NOT by FAITH ALONE

    Your arrogant pride and rebellion has blinded you to the words “HIS FAITH WAS MADE COMPLETE BY WHAT HE DID AND THE SCRIPTURE WAS FULFILLED THAT SAYS, ABRAHAM BELIEVED GOD and it was CREDITED TO HIM AS RIGHTEOUSNESS” Because of your rejection of Gods Commandments you fail to see that Abrahams belief was credited as righteousness because of what he DID! Because he OBEYED God. You have this inability to see the word “OBEY” in scripture.

    You isolate specific verses from Pauls writings (such as Gal 3:24-26) but completely ingnore all of the other verses in Galations that utterly contradict your false definitions of “faith” and “belief”

    Gal 5:16-18
    So i say, walk by the spirit, and YOU WILL NOT GRATIFY THE DESIRES OF THE FLESH. For the flesh desires what is contrary to the spirit, and the spirit what is contrary to the flesh. they are in conflict with each other, so that YOU ARE NOT TO DO WHATEVER YOU WANT

    Gal 5:19-21
    The acts of the flesh are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that THOSE WHO LIVE LIKE THIS WILL NOT INHERIT THE KINGDOM OF GOD

    Gal 6:7-8
    Do not be deceived: God cannot be mocked. A man reaps what he sows. Whoever sows to please their flesh, from the flesh will reap DESTRUCTION; whoever sows to please the Spirit, from the Spirit will reap ETERNAL LIFE.

    You quote – Isaiah 6:9-10 but you completely ignore,

    Isaiah 1:28
    But rebels and sinners will both be broken, and those who forsake the LORD will perish.

    Isaiah 3:10-11
    Tell the righteous it will be well with them, for they will enjoy the fruit of their deeds. Woe to the wicked! Disaster is upon them! They will be paid back for what their hands have done

    Isaiah 57:2
    Those who WALK UPRIGHTLY enter into peace; they find rest as they lie in death

    Isaiah 59:1-2
    Surely the arm of the LORD is not too short to save, nor his ear too dull to hear. But your iniquities have separated you from your God; your sins have hidden his face from you, so that he will not hear.

    “We all fail when they try to be “good” in our own strength.”

    Indeed, God will never provide you with the life saving grace to overcome your habitual sin as long as you keep telling God that His commandments are “impossible to obey”. God does not give what is not asked for. What tempatation or sin in this world is MORE POWERFUL than Christ within you? Do you really believe that there is any sin in this world that is MORE POWERFUL than Jesus Christ if you simply allow Him to be the Lord of your life? What sin can penetrate your heart if Jesus is already there? What temptation can penetrate your mind if Jesus is on your mind?

    James 1:12-15
    Blessed is the one who perseveres under trial because, HAVING STOOD THE TEST, that person will receive THE CROWN OF LIFE that the Lord has promised to those who LOVE Him, NO ONE SHOULD SAY, “God is tempting me.” For God cannot be tempted by evil, nor does he tempt anyone; but each person is tempted when they are dragged away BY THEIR OWN EVIL DESIRE and ENTICED. Then, after desire has conceived, it gives birth to sin; AND SIN, WHEN IT IS FULL GROWN, GIVES BIRTH TO DEATH.

    No mr. g-odman, Gods Commandments are not “impossible to obey” your refusal to seek Gods life saving grace and to TRUST in Jesus Christ is what is what is making it “impossible” for you to obey God.

    As long as you continue to deny the life saving power of Jesus Christ to tranform you into a NEW CREATION that does not gratify the desires of the flesh you will NEVER be able to overcome temptation and sin, you will NEVER be able to live according to Gods word. The devil is a liar. The devil has convinced you that not even Gods life saving grace can keep you from turning your back on God and indulging in sin (Phil 4:13) Truly sad, you have drunk the kool aid mr. g-odman. Through your own denial of Gods power you are denying yourself the true peace that can only come through living according to Gods word. You are claiming Jesus Christ as your Savior while not making Him the LORD of your life and until you do so, you will remain in bondage to sin which leads to death.

    2 Tim 2:19
    Nevertheless, God’s solid foundation stands firm, sealed with this inscription: “The Lord knows those who are his,” and, “EVERYONE WHO CONFESSES THE NAME OF THE LORD MUST TURN AWAY FROM WICKEDNESS.”

    1 Peter 3:12
    For the eyes of the Lord are on the RIGHTEOUS and his ears are ATTENTIVE to their prayer, but the face of the Lord is AGAINST those who DO EVIL

    Heb 5:9
    And, once made perfect, He became the source of eternal salvation for ALL who OBEY Him

    John 8:51
    Very truly I tell you, whoever OBEYS my word will NEVER SEE DEATH

    John 9:31
    We know that God does not listen to sinners. He listens to the GODLY PERSON who DOES
    HIS WILL.

    John 14:15
    IF you love me KEEP MY COMMANDS

    John 14:21
    WHOEVER HAS MY COMMANDS AND KEEPS THEM IS THE ONE WHO LOVES ME. The one who loves me will be loved by my Father, and I too will love them and show myself to them

    John 14:23
    Anyone who loves me WILL OBEY MY TEACHING.

    John 14:24
    Anyone who DOES NOT LOVE ME DOES NOT KEEP MY WORDS; and the word which you hear is not mine but my Fathers who sent me

    John 15:1
    I am the true vine, and my Father is the gardener. He CUTS OFF every branch IN ME that BEARS NO FRUIT.

    John 15:23
    If I had not come and spoken to them, they would not be guilty of sin; BUT NOW THEY HAVE NO EXCUSE FOR THEIR SIN. Whoever hates me hates my Father as well

    1 John 1:6
    This is the message we have heard from him and declare to you: God is light; IN HIM THERE IS NO DARKNESS AT ALL. If we CLAIM to have fellowship with him and yet WALK IN DARKNESS, we LIE and DO NOT live out the truth.

    1 John 1:7
    But IF WE WALK IN THE LIGHT, as He is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the Blood of Jesus cleans us of all sin.

    1 John 2:3
    We know that we have come to know Him IF we KEEP HIS COMMANDS

    1 John 2:4
    Whoever says, “I know him,” but DOES NOT DO WHAT HE COMMANDS IS A LIAR, AND THE TRUTH IS NOT IN HIM.

    1 John 3:6
    NO ONE WHO LIVES IN HIM KEEPS ON SINNING. NO ONE WHO CONTINUES TO SIN HAS EITHER SEEN HIM OR KNOWN HIM.

    1 John 3:7
    Dear children, do not let anyone lead you astray. The one who DOES WHAT IS RIGHT is RIGHTEOUS, just as He is righteous.

    1 John 3:8
    The one who DOES what is sinful is of the devil, because the devil has been sinning from the beginning. The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the devil’s work

    1 John 3:9
    NO ONE who is BORN OF GOD will CONTINUE TO SIN, because God’s seed remains in them; they CANNOT go on sinning, because they have been born of God

    1 John 3:10
    This is how we know who the children of God are and who the children of the devil are: ANYONE who does NOT do what is right IS NOT GODS CHILD, nor is anyone who DOES NOT love their brother and sister.

    1 John 3:15
    Anyone who hates a brother or sister is a murderer, and you know that no murderer HAS ETERNAL LIFE residing in him.

    1 John 3:17-18
    Dear children, let us not love with WORDS or speech BUT with ACTIONS and in truth

    1 John 3:21-22
    Dear friends, if our hearts do not condemn us, we have confidence before God and receive from him anything we ask, BECAUSE we KEEP his Commands and do what pleases him.

    1 John 3:24
    The one who KEEPS God’s Commands lives in him, and he in them

    1 John 5:2
    This is how we know that we love the children of God: by loving God and CARRYING OUT his Commands

    1 John 5:3-4
    In fact, this is love for God: to KEEP HIS COMMANDS. And his Commands are NOT burdensome, for EVERYONE born of God overcomes the world

    1 John 5:16
    If anyone sees His brother committing a sin not leading to death, He shall ask, and God will give Him life—to those who commit sins that do not lead to death. There is sin that leads to death; I do not say that one should pray for that. All wrongdoing is sin, but there is sin that does not lead to death

    2 John 1:6
    And this is love: that we WALK IN OBEDIENCE TO HIS COMMANDS. As you have heard from the beginning, his command is that you walk in love

    3 John 1:11
    Dear friend, do not imitate what is evil but what is good. Anyone who DOES what is good is from God. Anyone who DOES WHAT IS EVIL HAS NOT SEEN GOD

    I will continue to pray for you as you reject Gods commandments and work out your salvation with fear and trembling

    “if you want to enter life, keep the commandments”

    -Jesus

  • [1] February 8, 2016 at 9:00pm

    “He adopted me as His son.”

    Many times in this forum you have boldly declared to God that His commands are “impossible to obey” despite the fact that NO WHERE in scripture does God EVER say that His commandments are impossible to obey. Sadly you believe that you can EXCEPT Gods commandments and ACCEPT Jesus Christ. Jesus and the Father are ONE. Because you boldly claim what is unscriptural you have cut yourself off from Gods Grace and you cannot understand Gods words in scripture.

    1 John 3:9-10
    No one who is born of God PRACTICES SIN, because His seed abides in him; and HE CANNOT SIN, because he is born of God. By this the children of God and the children of the devil ARE OBVIOUS: ANYONE WHO DOES NOT PRACTICE RIGHTEOUSNESS IS NOT FROM GOD

    3 John 1:11
    Dear friend, do not imitate what is evil but what is good. Anyone who does what is good is from God. ANYONE WHO DOES WHAT IS EVIL HAS NOT SEEN GOD.

    “we have direct access to G-d through the Holy Spirit indwelling us”

    Scripture tells us that God only gives the Holy Spirit to those who OBEY Him. You think that because you call Jesus Lord and admit what even the demons know (that Jesus is Lord) that you have the Holy Spirit but Satan KNOWS that Jesus Christ is Lord and Satan is not “indwelt” with Gods Holy Spirit.

    Acts 5:32
    We are witnesses of these things, and so is the Holy Spirit, WHOM GOD HAS GIVEN TO THOSE WHO OBEY HIM

    Have you ever noticed that EVERYTHING you believe and all of your understanding about salvation s derived from a very small subset of isolated verses from Pauls writings? Have you ever noticed that your entire understanding of salvation hangs on using Pauls words to prove that we do not have to obey God to have eternal life?

    The scriptures forewarn us that Pauls writings are difficult to understand and that ignorant and unstable people will distort Pauls writings (as they do the other scriptures) to their own DESTRUCTION. Scripture also warns that some will be carried away by these LAWLESS teachers.

    2 Peter 3:16
    His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction. Therefore, dear friends, since you have been forewarned, be on your guard so that you may not be carried away by the error of the LAWLESS and FALL FROM YOUR SECURE POSITION.

    It simply comes down to this. You were never taught the difference between the Mosaic “works of the law” and Gods moral Law. As scripture forewarns us, Pauls letters are difficult to understand. When talking about the “works of the law” or the “law” many ignorant and unstable people have distorted Pauls writings to say that he is talking about Gods commandments. Fortunately Paul makes a VERY clear distinction between the Mosaic works of the law (such as circumcision) and Gods moral law (the 10 Commadments) in his letter to the Corinthians

    1 Cor 7:19
    Circumcision is nothing and uncircumcision is nothing. KEEPING GODS COMMANDS IS WHAT COUNTS.

    Understanding that when Paul speaks of the “law” or the “works of the law” he is not saying we no longer have to obey God I encourage you (and others reading this post) to reread the verses below and also reread ALL of Pauls letters to the churches. When you read Pauls letters with this clear understanding he no longer seems to contradict Jesus or himself. You will see that there is no longer tension between Paul and Jesus and there are no more “hard verses”

    —JESUS—
    John 9:31
    If I had not come and spoken to them they would not be guilty of sin, now that I have THEY HAVE NO EXCUSE FOR THEIR SINS

    —PAUL—
    Rom 2:13
    it is not those who hear the law who are righteous in Gods sight it is those who OBEY THE LAW who WILL BE DECLARED RIGHTEOUS

    —JESUS—
    Matt 19:17
    If you want to enter life, keep the commandments

    —Jesus—
    Rom 2:6-8
    GOD WILL REPAY EACH PERSON ACCORDING TO WHAT THEY HAVE DONE. To those who by PERSISTENCE IN DOING GOOD seek glory, honor and IMMORTALITY He will give ETERNAL LIFE.

    —JESUS—
    Matt 13:41-43
    The Son of Man will send out his angels, and they will weed out of his kingdom everything that causes sin and ALL WHO DO EVIL. They will throw them into the blazing furnace, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth. Then THE RIGHTEOUS will shine like the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Whoever has ears, let them hear

    —JESUS—
    Luke 1:6
    BOTH OF THEM WERE RIGHTEOUS IN THE SIGHT OF GOD, OBSERVING ALL THE LORD’S COMMANDS AND DECREES BLAMELESSLY

    I encourage you to consider the WHOLE counsel of God and stop distorting Pauls writings to teach easy believism, disobedience salvation. I understand that the idea that you can continue to indulge in your sin and disobey God and still spend eternity in paradise is VERY appealing to our sinful nature…..it’s just not biblical..

    I will continue to pray for you as you work out your salvation with fear and trembling.

    “if you want to enter life keep the commandments”

    -Jesus

  • [1] February 8, 2016 at 7:30pm

    @G-odman

    The scriptures forewarn us that Pauls letters are hard to understand and ignorant and unstable people will twist his writings to their own destruction. The scriptures forewarn us that some people will be carried away by this lawless teaching and fall from their secure position. Your lawless disobedience salvation teaching fulfills this prophecy/warning.

    2 Peter 3:16
    His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction. Therefore, dear friends, since you have been forewarned, be on your guard so that you may not be carried away by the error of the LAWLESS and fall from your secure position

    I am sure you will agree that we must consider the WHOLE counsel of God not just isolate certain verses and distort them to teach lawless disobedience to God. By doing so you are using Gods own words against Him. You have repeatedly stated in this forum that Gods commands are “impossible to obey” (Luke 1:6), (Rom 5:14)

    Peter also writes,

    2 Peter 3:7
    By the same word the present heavens and earth are reserved for fire, being kept for the day of judgment and DESTRUCTION OF THE UNGODLY.

    The Greek word used for “ungodly” () is the exact same word used in Jude 1:4

    Jude 1:4
    For certain individuals whose CONDEMNATION was written about long ago have secretly slipped in among you. They are UNGODLY people, who PERVERT the grace of our God into a LICENSE FOR IMMORALITY and deny Jesus Christ our only Sovereign and Lord.

    So we see this same warning in both 2 Peter and 1 Jude that ignorant, unstable and ungodly people will pervert the word of God to teach that Gods grace is a liscense to sin (aka lawlessness)

    Below are more verses from Pauls letter to the Romans and his letters to the other churches which show that you are distorting Pauls writings to your own destruction.

    Rom 2:6-8
    GOD WILL REPAY EACH PERSON ACCORDING TO WHAT THEY HAVE DONE. To those who by PERSISTENCE IN DOING GOOD seek glory, honor and IMMORTALITY He will give ETERNAL LIFE.

    Rom 2:13
    For it is not those who hear the law who are righteous in God’s sight, but it is those who obey the law who will be declared righteous

    Rom 5:14
    Nevertheless, death reigned from the time of Adam to the time of Moses, even over ` those WHO DID NOT SIN BY BREAKING a COMMAND as did Adam, who is a type of the one to come.

    Rom 6:16
    Do you not know that if you yield yourselves to anyone as obedient slaves, you are slaves of the one whom you obey, EITHER OF SIN WHICH LEADS TO DEATH, or of OBEDIENCE WHICH LEADS TO RIGHTEOUSNESS?

    Rom 6:22
    But now that you have been set free from sin and have become slaves of God,the benefit you reap LEADS TO HOLINESS, and the result is ETERNAL LIFE.

    Rom 8:13
    For IF you are living according to the flesh, YOU MUST DIE; but IF by the Spirit you PUT TO DEATH THE DEEDS OF THE BODY, YOU WILL LIVE. For all who are being led by the Spirit of God, these are sons of God.

    Rom 8:17
    Now if we are children, then we are heirs– heirs of God and co-heirs with Christ, IF indeed WE SHARE IN HIS SUFFERINGS in order that WE MAY ALSO SHARE IN HIS GLORY

    1 Cor 6:9
    Or do you not know that WRONGDOERS WILL NOT INHERIT THE KINGDOM OF GOD? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with mena nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.

    NOTE: The Greek word used for “wrongdoers” or “unrighteous” in 1 Cor 6:9 is ádikos.

    94 ádikos – /ádikos (“unjust”) describes being found guilty in God’s court of law, i.e. as a binding, legal infraction against His law which calls for divine retribution for disrespecting true justice

    1 Cor 10:12
    So, if you THINK you are STANDING FIRM, BE CAREFUL that you DON’T FALL!. No temptation has overtaken you except what is common to mankind. And God is faithful; He WILL NOT LET YOU BE TEMPTED BEYOND WHAT YOU CAN BEAR. But when you are tempted, HE WILL PROVIDE A WAY SO THAT YOU CAN RESIST.

    Gal 5:16-18
    so i say, WALK BY THE SPIRIT, AND YOU WILL NOT GRATIFY THE DESIRES OF THE FLESH. for the flesh desires what is contrary to the spirit, and the spirit what is contrary to theRom 6:16
    Do you not know that if you yield yourselves to anyone as obedient slaves, you are slaves of the one whom you obey, EITHER OF SIN WHICH LEADS TO DEATH, or of OBEDIENCE WHICH LEADS TO RIGHTEOUSNESS?

    Rom 6:22
    But now that you have been set free from sin and have become slaves of God,the benefit you reap LEADS TO HOLINESS, and the result is ETERNAL LIFE. flesh. they are in conflict with each other, so that YOU ARE NOT TO DO WHATEVER YOU WANT.

    Gal 5:19-21
    The acts of the flesh are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I WARN YOU, as I did before, that THOSE WHO LIVE LIKE THIS WILL NOT INHERIT THE KINGDOM OF GOD.

    Gal 6:7-8
    DO NOT BE DECEIVED: God cannot be mocked. A man REAPS WHAT HE SOWS. Whoever sows to please their flesh, from the flesh will reap DESTRUCTION; whoever sows to please the Spirit, from the Spirit will reap ETERNAL LIFE.

    Eph 5:5-7
    For of this you CAN BE SURE: NO IMMORAL, IMPURE or greedy person—such a person is an idolater—HAS ANY INERITANCE IN THE KINGDOM OF CHRIST AND OF GOD. Let no one DECEIVE you with EMPTY words, for because of such things God’s wrath comes on those who are DISOBEDIENT therefore do not be partners with them

    You teach that Gods commandments are “impossible to obey” (Luke 1:6) and you teach that salvation is by “faith alone” (James 2:24) and not according to doctrines or works but then you condemn fellow Christians for their doctrines and their works.

    “Jesus already justified and redeemed those who have faith in Him”

    FALSE

    James 2:24
    You see that a man is justified by what he does and NOT by FAITH ALONE.

    Because you have been taught a false/unbiblical understanding of justification you cannot understand the scripture that explicitly contradicts the teachings of your fathers.

    Matt 7:21-23
    Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven will enter. “Many will say to Me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform many miracles?’ And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; DEPART FROM ME, YOU WHO PRACTICE LAWLESSNESS.’

    So if we read Pauls letters in light of Jesus teachings we see that some Christians will PROPHECY and DO MANY MIRACLES in Jesus name but because they PRACTICED LAWLESSNESS they NEVER truly knew Jesus. These workers of lawlessness WILL NOT ENTER THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN.

    “Their entire religion is based on remaining a slave”

    Scripture explicitly commands us to be SLAVES TO OBEDIENCE. Scripture explicitly warns us that all who are slaves to sin will die.

    Rom 6:16
    Do you not know that if you yield yourselves to anyone as OBEDIENT SLAVES, YOU ARE SLAVES OF THE ONE WHOM YOU OBEY, EITHER OF SIN WHICH LEADS TO DEATH, or of OBEDIENCE WHICH LEADS TO RIGHTEOUSNESS?

    Scripture tells us we have been SET FREE from SIN and have become SLAVES OF GOD.

    Rom 6:22
    But now that you have been set free from sin AND HAVE BECOME SLAVES OF GOD, the benefit you reap LEADS TO HOLINESS, and the result is ETERNAL LIFE.

    “Christians are free, I know, because I am free”

    As pointed out above. Your fathers have taught you that “FREE” means “FREE TO SIN”, it does not. Because you teach the false “FREE TO SIN” gospel you cannot understand what you read. You cannot continue to except Gods commands and claim to accept Jesus Christ. To do so is delusional. Why don’t you stop defending sin which leads to death and get on the winning team and defend obedience which leads to righteousness.

    I will continue to pray for you as you work out our salvation with fear and trembling, you can do this, just trust in Jesus.

    “if you want to enter life, keep the commandments”

    -Jesus

  • [1] February 7, 2016 at 7:54pm

    “If the catholic religion were actually following G-d instead of a path they created themselves”

    Many times in this forum you have stated that Gods commandments are “impossible to follow” (Luke 1:6), (Eph 5:5), (1Cor 6:9), (Gal 5:19), (1 John 2:3-4)

    How ironic that someone who EXCEPTS Gods commandments accuses those who ACCEPT Gods commandments of “not following God” and following a path they created themselves. You teach that a person can follow God……..while not following God. The mind is confused that claims to “follow God” while at the same time claiming that Gods commands are “impossible to follow”….makes no sense.

    1 John 3:7-8
    Little children, make sure no one DECEIVES you, THE ONE WHO PRACTICES RIGHTEOUSNESS IS RIGHTEOUS just as He is righteous; THE ONE WHO PRACTICES SIN IS OF THE DEVIL, for the devil has sinned from the beginning. The Son of God appeared for this purpose, to destroy the works of the devil. NO ONE WHO IS BORN OF GOD PRACTICES SIN, because His seed ABIDES IN HIM and he CANNOT SIN, because he is BORN OF GOD.

    “When one is indwelt by The Holy Spirit as Jesus promised His followers would be”

    As already shown, the problem is that your definition of “follow” Jesus Christ includes NOT following Gods commandments. Again you claim to “follow” Jesus Christ but unlike you Jesus did not teach that Gods commandments are “impossible to follow”. The Bible says that God only gives His Holy Spirit to those who OBEY Him and yet you claim to be “indwelt” by the Holy Spirit AND to be a “follower” of Jesus Christ……WITHOUT following Gods commandments.

    How exactly are you “following” Jesus Christ? On Twitter? Where in the Bible does it say that we “follow” Jesus Christ by NOT following Gods commandments? It’s also self defeating to constantly claim that salvation is by faith alone and not according to any doctrines or works but then spend all of your time condemning fellow believers because of their doctrines and works. Doing so just makes you seem double minded and unstable.

    Acts 5:32
    We are witnesses of these things, and so is the Holy Spirit, WHOM GOD HAS GIVEN TO THOSE WHO OBEY HIM

    1 John 2:4
    Whoever says “I know him” BUT DOES NOT KEEP HIS COMMANDMENTS IS A LIAR AND THE TRUTH IS NOT IN HIM.

    Titus 1:16
    They CLAIM to know God, but by their actions they deny him. They are detestable, DISOBEDIENT and unfit for doing anything good.

    1 John 1:6
    If we claim to have fellowship with him and yet WALK IN SIN, we lie and do not live out the truth.

    1 John 3:6
    NO ONE WHO LIVES IN HIM KEEPS ON SINNING. No one who continues to sin HAS EITHER SEEN HIM OR KNOWN HIM

    “He changes the heart and transforms it to be more in accord to His will”

    You are half right. God does not change our hearts to be “more” in accord to His will. Quite simply Gods commandments ARE in accordance with His will and you are either following Gods commandments or you are not. If you are not following Gods commandments then you can be sure that you are not “following” His will.

    No where in the Bible does it say followers of Jesus Christ are called to live “more” according to Gods will. There is no “more” there is simply “according to” or “not according to”.

    You either are living according to Gods will (wheat) or you are not (Tares) there is no middle (lukewarm) ground, there is no half way to serve Jesus Christ. We dont sort of follow or sort of serve Jesus Christ. We cannot serve 2 Masters, we will love one and hate the other. We cannot be IN sin and be IN Jesus Christ. Sin is from the father of this world and obedience is from our Father who is in Heaven.

    1 John 3:7-8
    Little children, make sure no one deceives you, THE ONE WHO PRACTICES RIGHTEOUSNESS IS RIGHTEOUS just as He is righteous; THE ONE WHO PRACTICES SIN IS OF THE DEVIL, for the devil has sinned from the beginning. The Son of God appeared for this purpose, to destroy the works of the devil. NO ONE WHOMIS BORN OF GOD PRACTICES SIN, because His seed ABIDES IN HIM and he CANNOT SIN, because he is born of God.…

    The phrase “more in accord to His will” is simply another way of saying “less opposed to His will”. You reject the following of Gods commandments and even teach people that it is possible to not follow Gods commandments and still “follow” God (as if Jesus and the Father are not ONE) If disobeying Gods commands is “following” Jesus Christ then Satan must be a saint.

    John 9:31
    God DOES NOT LISTEN TO SINNERS. He listens to the GODLY PERSON who DOES HIS WILL.

    “A religion and its adherents can only fake being indwelt and following Jesus for so long before the truth comes out”

    Indeed, You EXCEPT following Gods commandments while claiming to ACCEPTJesus Christ. I pray that you stop mocking God by claiming that God gives His Holy Spirit to those who do not follow His commands. I pray you stop mocking God by teaching others that they can disobey God and still inherit the kingdom of God. The Bible is very clear that no immoral or impure person has ANY inheritance in the kingdom of God.

    Eph 5:5
    Of this you can be CERTAIN: NO IMMORAL, IMPURE or greedy person–such a person is an idolater–has ANY INHERITANCE in the kingdom of Christ and of God.

    Acts 5:32
    We are witnesses of these things, and so is the Holy Spirit, WHOM GOD HAS GIVEN TO THOSE WHO OBEY HIM

    Rev 14:12
    Here is a call for the endurance of the SAINTS, those WHO KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS OF GOD AND THEIR FAITH IN JESUS.

    Matt 7:21
    Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who DOES THE WILL OF MY FATHER who is in heaven. MANY will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not PROHESY in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform MANY MIRACLES?’ Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I NEVER KNEW YOU. Away from me, you WORKERS OF LAWLESSNESS!’

    “The counterfeit can never match a true, personal, relationship with the King of kings and Lord of lords”

    How ironic that a man who teaches the unbiblical doctrine that Gods commandments are “impossible” to follow (Luke 1:6) lectures others about having a “counterfeit relationship” with Jesus Christ. No where in the Bible does Jesus EVER say that Gods commandments are impossible to follow.

    Jesus NEVER says “if you want to have eternal life you must have a personal relationship with me”. The reason Jesus never says this is because a “personal relationship” is subjective whereas Gods commandments are not. By FOLLOWING Gods commandments we can KNOW that we TRULY LOVE God and are FOLLOWING God. By truly following and loving God we can KNOW that we are TRULY following and loving Jesus Christ. This is why, when Jesus was asked what a person MUST DO in order to HAVE ETERNAL LIFE, Jesus replied “keep the commandments” (Matt 19:17).

    1 John 5:3
    In FACT, this is love for God: to keep his commands. And his commands are not burdensome,

    1 John 2:3
    By this we KNOW that we have come to KNOW HIM if we keep His commandments. The one who says, “I have come to know Him,” and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him;…

    Conversely mr. G-odman says “Gods commandments are impossible to obey and I just know that I know Him because He speaks directly to me and indwells me” Bold as a Lion? Indeed…..

    Jesus did not reply “have a personal relationship with me” as that is totally subjective and bases salvation on every individuals personal idea of what does or does not constitute a “personal relationship” with Jesus. There is nothing subjective about keeping Gods commandments, you either accept them (to accept the Father is to accept Jesus), or you EXCEPT them (to except the Father is to except Jesus). It is not possible to EXCEPT God and ACCEPT Jesus Christ, the 2 are ONE. It is not possible to live in rebellion with Gods commandments and to “serve” Jesus Christ, no matter how “personal” you might think your relationship with Jesus is. If your “personal relationship” with Jesus does not include doing the will of His Father it is meaningless.

    1 John 5:3
    In fact, this is love for God: to keep his commands. And his commands are not burdensome,

    John 14:21
    Whoever has my commands and keeps them is the one who loves me. The one who loves me will be loved by my Father, and I too will love them and show myself to them.”

    There are currently over 40,000 different “bible based” churches that disagree about what is and is not “essential” for salvation. Like you, every single one of them also sincerely believes that they are “spirit led” and that they have a “personal relationship with Jesus Christ” and yet just like you they also believe that it is possible to “follow” Jesus Christ without following Gods commandments.

    I will continue to pray for you as you struggle to understand and truly follow Gods commandments.

    IN Christ,

    “If you want to enter life, keep the commandments”

    -Jesus

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  • [3] February 5, 2016 at 7:39pm

    @g-odman

    “books the catholic religion added to their reading list”

    FALSE

    You are bearing false witness. Those books were in Jesus Bible and in every Christian Bible for over 1500 years until Protestant reformers deleted them from the Bible in the 17th century. No one “added” those books to the Bible your fathers deleted them from the Bible.

    1. Those 7 books are in the Septuagint (the Bible that Jesus and the Apostles used)

    2. Those 7 books are in the Codex Sinaticus (the oldest known Christian Bible dated around 350AD)

    3. Those 7 books are in the ORIGINAL (1445) Gutenberg Bible

    4. Those 7 books are in the ORIGINAL (1534) Martin Luther Bible

    5. Those 7 books are in the ORIGINAL (1560) Geneva Bible (the Bible that the settlers brought with them to America)

    6. Those 7 books are in the ORIGNIAL (1530) Zurich Bible

    7. Those 7 books are in the ORIGINAL (1535) French Bible

    8. Those 7 books are in the ORIGINAL (1565) Spanish Reina Bible

    9. Those 7 books are in the ORIGINAL (1611) King James Bible

    10. Those 7 books are in EVERY Christian Bible printed prior to 1666 when Protestants removed those 7 books.

    11. The Coptic, Greek and Russian Orthodox Churches consider Those 7 books inspired by God.

    12. Protestants, follow the TRADITION of the Pharisaic Jews who reject the New Testament.

    13. Protestants follow the TRADITION of the Pharisaic Jews who reject Jesus the Christ

    14. NO WHERE in the Bible does it EVER say to delete those 7 books from the Bible.

    “Scripture clearly states all who have accepted Messiah are Saints”

    FALSE

    Rev 14:12
    Here is a call for the endurance of the SAINTS, THOSE WHO KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS OF GOD AND THEIR FAITH IN JESUS.

    “Papal infallibility – Wow, not even Peter managed to pull this off”

    FALSE

    Matt 16:18
    I also say to you that you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build My church; and the gates of Hades will not overpower it. “I WILL GIVE YOU THE KEYS TO THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN; and whatever you bind on earth shall have been bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall have been loosed in heaven.”…

    The Keys to the Kingdom of Heaven, the power to bind and loose and Jesus promise that the gates of hell will never prevail constitute infalibility. Not your personal feelings.

    “Baptism to remove sin from infants. Again, zero support in Scripture”

    FALSE

    1 Peter 3:21
    Baptism, which corresponds to this, NOW SAVES YOU, not as a removal of dirt from the body but as an appeal to God for a good conscience, through the resurrection of Jesus Christ

    No where in the Bible does it forbid the Baptizing of children. No where in the Bible are we commanded to only Baptize adults. The only reason you believe that children should not be Baptized is because your Protestant tradition has taught you so. You also deny that Baptism is required for salvation and yet the Bible explictly tells us that Baptism now SAVES you. As with all other Bible verses that explicitly contradict the doctrine of salvaiton by faith alone you also reject Gods words which say Baptism now SAVES you.

    “Those who have actually accepted Jesus into their hearts and been born of the spirit as Jesus said understand these things. The catholics do not.”

    FALSE

    You teach that it is impossible to obey Gods commandments and you even teach that God gives the Holy Spirit to those who disobey Him. Neither of these doctrines are found anywhere in scripture. Your teachings are not biblical. The Bible says,

    Luke 1:6
    Both of them were righteous in the sight of God OBEYING ALL OF THE LORDS COMMANDMENTS AND DECREES BLAMELESSLY.

    John 9:31
    We KNOW that GOD DOES NOT LISTEN TO SINNERS. HE LISTENS TO THE GODLY PERSON WHO DOES HIS WILL

    Matt 7:21-23
    Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, BUT ONLY THE ONE WHO DOES THE WILL OF MY FATHER WHO IS IN HEAVEN.
    MANY will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’ Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. AWAY FROM ME YOU WORKERS OF LAWLESSNESS!’

    John 14:15

    If you love me, keep my commands

    John 14:21

    Whoever has my commands and keeps them is the one who loves me. The one who loves me will be loved by my Father, and I too will love them and show myself to them

    John 15:10 

    If you keep my commandments, you will abide in my love, just as I have kept my Father’s commandments and abide in his love

    John 15:14

    You are my friends if you do what I command

    1 John 5:3

    In fact, this is love for God: to keep his commands

    1 John 2:3-4

    And by this we know that we have come to know him, if we keep his commandments. Whoever says “I know him” but does not keep his commandments is a liar, and the truth is not in him

    1 John 2:5-6

    but whoever keeps his commandments, in him truly the love of God is perfected. By this we may know that we are in him: whoever says he abides in him ought to walk in the same way in which he walked

    2 John 1:6

    And this is love: that we walk in obedience to his commands……

    1 Corinthians 7:19 

    For neither circumcision counts for anything nor uncircumcision, but keeping the commandments of God

    Romans 2:6-8

    God “will give to each person according to what he has done.”  To those who by persistence in doing good seek glory, honor and immortality, he will give eternal life.  

    Romans 2:13

    For it is not those who hear the law who are righteous in God’s sight, but it is those who obey the law who will be declared righteous

    Matthew 5:17

    For truly, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass from the Law until all is accomplished

    Luke 11:28

    He replied, “Blessed rather are those who hear the word of God and obey it.

    Revelation 12:17

    Then the dragon was enraged at the woman and went off to wage war against the rest of her offspring–those who keep God’s commands and hold fast their testimony about Jesus.

    Revelation 14:12 

    Here is a call for the endurance of the saints, those who keep the commandments of God and their faith in Jesus

    I will continue to pray for you as you struggle to understand and accept Gods words in scripture.

    “if you want to enter life, keep the commandments”

    -Jesus

  • [3] February 4, 2016 at 11:04am

    P.S.

    The “Apocrypha” are also contained in,

    1. The Vetus Latina (the writings that Saint Jerome translated into the Latin Vulgate)

    2. The Latin Vulgate

    “if you want to enter life, keep the commandments”

    -Jesus

  • [3] February 4, 2016 at 10:51am

    @g-odman, kgpeipet et al,

    I apologize for embarassing you yet again. I sincerely pray that my doing so does not lead you to more name calling and insults (an occasion of sin)

    I post historical and biblical facts/evidence not to provoke your anger but in order to spread the truth however upsetting that might be to you.

    1. The “Apocrypha” are in the Septuagint (the Bible that Jesus and the Apostles used)

    2. The “Apocrypha” are in the Codex Sinaticus (the oldest known Christian Bible dated around 350AD) In this codex there is no distinction between old testament and “Apocrypha”.

    3. The “Apocrypha” are in the ORIGINAL (1445) Gutenberg Bible

    4. The “Apocrypha” are in the ORIGINAL (1534) Martin Luther Bible

    5. The “Apocrypha” are in the ORIGINAL (1560) Geneva Bible which was brought to America by the Jamestown Settlers

    6. The “Apocrypha” are in the ORIGNIAL (1530) Zurich Bible

    7. The “Apocrypha” are in the ORIGINAL (1535) French Bible

    8. The “Apocrypha” are in the ORIGINAL (1565) Spanish Reina Bible

    9. The “Apocrypha” are in the ORIGINAL (1611) King James Bible

    10. The “Apocrypha” are in EVERY Christian Bible printed prior to 1666 when Protestants removed those 7 books.

    11. The Coptic, Greek and Russian Orthodox Churches consider the “Apocrypha” inspired by God.

    12. Protestants, follow the TRADITION of the Pharisaic Jews who reject the New Testament.

    13. Protestants follow the TRADITION of the Pharisaic Jews who reject Jesus the Christ

    14. NO WHERE in the Bible does it say that those 7 books should be deleted from the Bible.

    15. In the 17th century Protestants deleted 7 books from the original Bible and then after telling the Bible what does and does not belong in the Bible they declared that the Bible is their ONLY authority.

    16. Luther also believed that James, Esther, Hebrews, Jude and Revelation were not inspired and should also be removed from the Bible. Calvin and Zwingli both had problems with the Book of Revelation. Calvin called the book of Revelation “unintelligible”

    17. It’s important to note that the Jews did not define the canon of their Scriptures until 90 AD., that is after the coming of the Messiah.

    In 90 AD., the Jews were no longer the true religion, since they had rejected the Messiah. Ever since Pentecost, the Church of Jesus, the Catholic Church, was the institution endowed with all authority (cf. Matthew 16:18-19; 18:18; Ephesians 3:10; Acts 15). Therefore, what the Jews (who murdered Jesus Christ) may or may not have decided in a council after Christ, in 90 AD., is irrelevant to Christians. The Jews had lost their status as the true religion and the custodians of Gods written word when they rejected and crucified our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.

    Why is it that the Jews decided on considering only 39 books inspired? Because they knew that the Christians, their arch-enemies, were using the Greek version of the Scriptures (which included the “Apocrypha”), and they wanted to distinguish themselves clearly from “Christians”

    18. The Jews wanted their own identity back and the deuterocanon contains many Christian prophecies and allusions to the New Testament, something the Jews could not stand at all! For example Wisdom 2:10-24, which is the clearest prophecy about Jesus’ passion in the entire Scriptures. The Jews, however rejected (and killed) Jesus Christ (they were anti-Christian) Indeed, the first Christians did use the deuterocanonical books. Proof of this can be found in art versions of the Scriptures (Vulgate, Syriac, and Coptic) as well as by looking at early Church liturgy.

    19. Since the Councils of Rome, Hippo, and Carthage in the late 4th century AD, the Christian faithful were taught that the deuterocanonical books are Scripture, and they were used as such. It was not until 1546 that these books were solemnly and dogmatically defined as belonging to the canon, because it was not until then that the inspiration of those books was called into question. And no doctrine is defined till called into question

    20. Why did Martin Luther deny the inspiration of the deuterocanon? Because the 7 disputed books contain scriptural proof for Orthodox & Catholic doctrine. This Luther did not like. So he decided it would be better to side with the Jews (who crucified Jesus) concerning the canon, so as to justify his breaking with Church teaching concerning certain doctrines.

    What Luther did was simply cowardly. When given biblical proof for a doctrine he disagreed with, he simply asserted that,”those books shouldn’t be in the Bible.”

    According to Luther’s principle, someone could argue that the Virgin Birth of Jesus is not in the Bible. When confronted with passages from Matthew and Luke, the person could simply declare that “those books don’t belong in the Bible”.

    21. For many years throughout Christendom the bible, with the Septuagint, was used. Martin Luther’s break from Catholicism and the development of the idea of “faith alone” as the basis for salvation opened the door for reformers to question books in the bible and to remove any books that explicity contradicted their doctrines/beliefs.

    The reformers particularly attacked Hebrews, Revelation, and the “Apocrypha”. Since the New Testament books had already been agreed upon at the council of Carthage in 395AD, the idea of removing Hebrews and Revelation from the bible was not widely embraced. The “Apocrypha”, however, did not fare so well.

    Some reformation churches included them in scripture and others did not. Finally the Church was forced to formally recognize what books had been traditionally used. This was done at the council of Trent, and this list, based on traditional Christian teaching is the list of books used by Orthodox & Catholic Christians today.

    In 1826, the National Bible Society of Scotland petitioned the British and Foreign Bible Society (BFBS) to stop printing the “Apocrypha”, resulting in a decision that no BFBS funds would ever again pay for printing any “Apocryphal” books anywhere.

    Since that time most modern editions of the Bible and reprintings of the King James Bible omit the “Apocrypha” section.

    In the 18th century, the “Apocrypha” section was omitted from the Challoner revision of the Douay-Rheims version.
    In the 1979 revision of the Vulgate, the section was dropped.

    Modern reprintings of the Clementine Vulgate commonly omit the “Apocrypha” section.

    Many reprintings of older versions of the Bible now omit the “Apocrypha” and many newer translations and revisions have never included them at all.

    ****Quotations from the “Apocrypha” found in the New Testament*****

    Matt 2:16 – Herod’s decree of slaying innocent children was prophesied in (Wisdom 11:7) – slaying the holy innocents.

    Matt 6:19-20 – Jesus’ statement about laying up for yourselves treasure in heaven follows (Sirach 29:11) – lay up your treasure.

    Matt 7:12 – Jesus’ golden rule “do unto others” is the converse of (Tobit 4:15) – what you hate, do not do to others.

    Matt 7:16,20 – Jesus’ statement “you will know them by their fruits” follows Sirach 27:6 – the fruit discloses the cultivation.

    Matt 9:36 – the people were “like sheep without a shepherd” is same as (Judith 11:19) – sheep without a shepherd.

    Matt 11:25 – Jesus’ description “Lord of heaven and earth” is the same as (Tobit 7:18) – Lord of heaven and earth.

    Mark 9:48 – description of hell where their worm does not die and the fire is not quenched references (Judith 16:17)

    Luke 1:42 – Elizabeth’s declaration of Mary’s blessedness above all women follows Uzziah’s declaration in (Judith 13:18)

    Luke 1:52 – Mary’s magnificat addressing the mighty falling from their thrones and replaced by lowly follows (Sirach 10:14)

    Luke 2:29 – Simeon’s declaration that he is ready to die after seeing the Child Jesus follows (Tobit 11:9)

    Luke 24:4 and Acts 1:10 – Luke’s description of the two men in dazzling apparel reminds us of (2 Macc. 3:26)

    John 1:3 – all things were made through Him, the Word, follows (Wisdom 9:1)

    John 3:13 – who has ascended into heaven but He who descended from heaven references (Baruch 3:29)

    John 6:35-59 – Jesus’ Eucharistic discourse is foreshadowed in Sirach (24:21)

    John 10:22 – the identification of the feast of the dedication is taken from (1 Macc. 4:59)

    John 15:6 – branches that don’t bear fruit and are cut down follows (Wis. 4:5) where branches are broken off.

    Acts 10:34; Rom. 2:11; Gal. 2:6 – Peter’s and Paul’s statement that God shows no partiality references (Sirach 35:12)

    Acts 17:29 – description of false gods as like gold and silver made by men follows (Wisdom 13:10)

    Rom 4:17 – Abraham is a father of many nations follows (Sirach 44:19)

    Rom 5:12 – description of death and sin entering into the world is similar to (Wisdom 2:24)

    Rom 9:21 – usage of the potter and the clay, making two kinds of vessels follows (Wisdom 15:7)

    1 Cor 2:16 – Paul’s question, “who has known the mind of the Lord?” references (Wisdom 9:13)

    CONCLUSION:

    If I may be so “bold” mr. go-dman, (and I mean you no disrespect) perhaps if you spent less time updating your avatar and more time studying the writings of the early church fathers (some of them who learned directly from John the Apostle) such as (Ambrose, Augustine, Clement, Cyprian, Ignatius, Irenaeus, Justin Martyr, Polycarp etc ) and the scriptures you might find that you become more knowlegable about the history of Christianity and Jesus church and stop embarassing yourself. I mean that sincerely. : )

    “I would not have believed the Gospel had not the authority of the Church moved me.”
    [Bartlett's Familiar Quotations, 15th ed., 129:8]

    -St Augustine

    “if you want to enter life, keep the commandments”

    -Jesus

  • [2] February 4, 2016 at 10:51am

    Indeed

    Living Word = JESUS

    Written Word = Scripture

    Many Christians today incorrectly refer to Jesus Christ as “the written word” or simply “the word”

    In Christ

    “if you want to enter life, keep the commandments”

    -Jesus

  • February 4, 2016 at 9:21am

    @lcdr_g-dman

    Why did you change your avatar to a flaming Donkey?

    http://www.theblaze.com/wp-content/uploads/userphoto/14540927.1156859.jpg

    IHS, IMS, 1DC

    “if you want to enter life, keep the commandments”

    -Jesus

  • [2] February 3, 2016 at 7:37pm

    The Old Testament/Covenant is an imperfect foreshadow/type of the perfect New Testament/Covenant to come.

    The Early Church Fathers believed that the first woman created by God (Eve) was the imperfect type/foreshadow of the NEW woman (Mary) to come.

    God created Eve perfect and without sin but Eve disobeyed God giving birth to condemnation and death.

    God created Mary in the same way that He created Eve (perfect and without sin) and Mary (unlike Eve) obeyed God giving birth to reconciliation and life.

    Mary is the Daughter of God the Father

    Mary is the Spouse of God the Holy Spirit

    Mary is the Mother of God the Son

    Mary is the only person in human history to be created like Eve (without sin) and to have a triune relationship with God.

    That being said the Early Fathers also believed that Mary still needed a Savior but that Jesus saved Mary PRIOR to her being born. In other words Jesus preserved his mother from sin (just like Eve) and therefore Jesus is Mary’s Savior.

    “if you want to enter life, keep the commandments”

    -Jesus

  • February 3, 2016 at 7:04pm

    @titanium

    You really need to watch the BBC documentary. It’s embarrassing to see you rant in here. Your “evidence” is completely fabricated by individuals who are just as ill informed as you are (aka the blind leading the blind) Consider the time periods and locations that your “proof” references and then compare that to the historical evidence provided in the BBC documentary. If you refuse to do so then you are intentionally bearing false witness and according to your own Protestant belief that ALL sins are equal in Gods eyes you are just as guilty as those who you claim “massacred hundreds of millions”

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CY-pS6iLFuc

    “if you want to enter life, keep the commandments”

    -Jesus

  • [1] February 3, 2016 at 12:14pm

    “I feel so sorry for you, groupie.”

    ————————————–
    Emotional Intelligence

    Name-calling is the most common tactic of someone who has an emotional argument to make but no logical argument or substantive facts to support their position.

    The emotional mind has a “mind of its own” and “emotional intelligence” operates independently of the logical mind.

    Name-calling is a product of this emotional mind, an explosion of feeling in the form of insults and accusations.

    Most people who indulge in name-calling know that the label or name they choose to describe another individual is not factually accurate. The label more accurately describes what the speaker subconsciously dislikes about him or herself.

    ————————————–

    As always you continue to use Pauls words to teach the false Gospel of disobedience salvation.

    Because you reject the keeping of Gods commandments and teach the Gospel of disobedience salvation you have cut yourself off from Gods grace and you cannot see the truth of Gods words. As long as you continue to use Gods own words against Him you will never be able to see the truth of Gods words. It is written,

    Acts 8:21
    You have no part or share in this ministry, because your heart is not right before God.

    John 9:31
    We know that GOD DOES NOT LISTEN TO SINNERS. HE LISTENS TO THE GODLY PERSON WHO DOES HIS WILL.

    But still you persist in your rejection of Gods commandments teaching the Gospel of disobedience salvation.

    The Bible tells you, (but you cannot understand)

    Eph (5:5)
    The acts of the flesh are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity….. I warn you, as I did before, that THOSE WHO LIVE LIKE THIS WILL NOT INHERIT THE KINGDOM OF GOD.

    Paul clarifies in his letter to the church in Galatia (but you cannot understand)

    Gal 5:22
    the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control. AGAINST SUCH THINGS THERE IS NO LAW. Those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires

    Because you teach the Gospel of disobedience salvation you cannot see that obeying Gods commandments is what elevates Gods people above the law. You think when Paul tells you that you are no longer under the law Paul is saying that you can disobey Gods commandments and still claim to “serve” Him.

    You however teach that those who are “indwelt by the spirit” cannot obey Gods commandments. You teach that temptation and sin are more powerful than Christ within you. (1 Cor 10:13), (Phil 4:13)

    The Bible tells you, (and this you cannot understand)

    Gal 5:17-18
    For the flesh desires what is contrary to the Spirit, and the Spirit what is contrary to the flesh. They are in conflict with each other, so that you are NOT TO DO WHATEVER YOU WANT. But [IF] you are LED BY THE SPIRIT, YOU ARE NOT UNDER THE LAW.

    What you cannot understand is Paul is telling you that “IF you are led by the spirit ” (the word IF means the statement is conditional) you are not under the law. Your definition of being led by the spirit and still not being able to obey God is not biblical.

    The Bible continues, (and this you cannot understand)

    Gal 5:19-21
    The acts of the flesh are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I WARN YOU AS I DID BEFORE that THOSE WHO LIVE LIKE THIS WILL NOT INHERIT THE KINGDOM OF GOD.

    Because you continually distort Pauls letters to teach your Gospel of disobedience salvation you are blinded to the conditional word “IF”.

    The Bible forewarns us that ignorant and unstable people will distort Pauls letters to their own destruction teaching your Gospel of lawlessness.

    2 Peter 3:16
    His letters contain some things that are difficult to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction. Therefore, dear friends, since you have been forewarned, be on your guard so that you may not be carried away by the error of the lawless and FALL FROM YOUR SECURE POSITION.

    Sadly, your persistence in teaching the false Gospel of disobedience salvation fulfills this biblical prophecy. The Bible also tells you that Jesus Christ is only the source of eternal salvation for those who OBEY HIM.

    Heb 5:9
    and, once made perfect, HE BECAME THE SOURCE OF ETERNAL SALVATION FOR ALL WHO OBEY HIM.

    The Bible tells you very clearly, (but you cannot understand)

    Heb 10:26
    if we deliberately keep on sinning AFTER we have received the knowledge of the truth, NO SACRIFICE FOR SINS IS LEFT, but only the fearful expectation of judgment and of raging fire that will consume the ENEMIES OF GOD.

    The Bible tells you very clearly, (but you cannot understand)

    Gal 5:19
    all those who rejected the law of Moses died without mercy on the testimony of just two or three witnesses. How much more severely do you think someone like you deserves to be punished who has insulted the Spirit of grace? The Bible warns that THE LORD WILL JUDGE HIS PEOPLE and it is a dreadful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

    The Bible says that you MUST put to death WHATEVER belongs to your earthly nature: sexual immorality, impurity, lust, evil desires and greed, which are idolatry. The Bible says that those who OBEY THE LAW will be declared RIGHTEOUS and sinners WILL NOT STAND in the assembly of the righteous. (Rom 2:13), (Pslam 1:5), (Col 3:5)

    Why do you continue to proudly mock God using His own words to teach the false Gospel of disobedience salvation while claiming to “serve” Jesus Christ? Don’t you realize that God’s patience is intended to lead you to repentance? (Rom 2:4)

    The Bible tells you very clearly (but you cannot understand)

    Gal 6:7-8
    Do not be deceived, God will not be mocked; for whatever a man sows, this he will also reap. For the one who sows to please his own flesh from the flesh will reap DESTRUCTION, but the one who sows to plesae the Spirit from the Spirit will reap ETERNAL LIFE.

    You teach that sinners can sow to please the flesh and reap eternal life. Why do you persist in perverting Gods words?

    Gal 6:8
    Whoever sows to please their flesh, from the flesh WILL REAP DESTRUCTION; whoever sows to please the Spirit, from the Spirit WILL REAP ETERNAL LIFE.

    Why do you continue to persecute Jesus by teaching the Gospel that Gods commandes are impossible to obey?

    Luke 1:6
    Both of them were righteous in the sight of God, observing all the Lord’s commands and decrees blamelessly

    You say that the saints are those who have faith alone but the Bible says the saints are those who KEEP GODS COMMANDMENTS and KEEP FAITH IN JESUS CHRIST.

    Rev 14:12
    Here is the perseverance of the saints, THOSE WHO KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS OF GOD and THEIR FAITH IN JESUS.

    Rom 2:5
    But because of your stubbornness and your unrepentant heart, you are storing up wrath against yourself for the day of God’s wrath, when his righteous judgment will be revealed.

    You persist in teaching the Gospel of disobedience salvation but the Bible tells you,

    Rom 2:6-7
    God WILL REPAY EACH PERSON ACCORDING TO WHAT THEY HAVE DONE.To those who by persistence in DOING GOOD seek glory, honor and immortality, HE WILL GIVE ETERNAL LIFE.

    Rom 2:13
    ……it is those who OBEY THE LAW who WILL BE DECLARED RIGHTEOUS.

    Your anger towards me for showing you the word of God is from the one who wants to keep you in bondage to your habitual sin.

    The Bible tells you (but you cannot understand)

    Rom 8:13
    If you live according to the flesh, you will die; but if by the Spirit you put to death the misdeeds of the body, you will live.

    As long as you persist in teaching the false Gospel of disobedience salvation God will not deliver you from your habitual sin. As long as you continue to mock God using His own words to justify your sin you will be cutoff from Gods life saving grace.

    You cannot serve 2 Masters, you will love one and hate the other. You cannot continue to indulge in your habitual sin that you have come to love and say that you love Jesus Christ.

    Jesus warns you (but you cannot understand)

    Matt 5:29
    If your right eye causes you to stumble, gouge it out and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body TO BE THROWN INTO HELL.

    Regarding your habitual sin Jesus warns you (but you cannot understand)

    Matt 5:30
    And if your right hand causes you to stumble, cut it off and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body TO GO TO HELL.

    Jesus warns you (but you cannot understand)

    John 15:22
    If I had not come and spoken to them, they would not be guilty of sin; BUT NOW THEY HAVE NO EXCUSE FOR THEIR SIN.

    I will continue to pray for you as you work out your salvation with fear and trembling.

    “if you want to enter life, keep the commandments”

    -Jesus

  • [1] February 2, 2016 at 8:11pm

    @letmegooglethat

    I am not sure if you are a Christian but your question is worth answering.

    God in His Divine Providence ordained that when the male sperm fertilizes the female egg the embryo is formed, conception occurs, life begins. This is the natural order of things according to Gods Divine Providence.

    For example God does not will that we fornicate or commit adultery but sometimes conception occurs during fornication and adultery. God does not step in and reverse His natural law and prevent conception from occurring simply because the mode of conception is sinful. Can we then conclude that these sinful acts were justified because conception occurred?

    God moves and acts according to His own Will and we cannot possibly know the mind or the intent of God. So after conception occurs I cannot say to God “look what a good thing I did, I fornicated and now a child is conceived” it does not work that way.

    Conversely, God created Gravity and if you throw a newborn baby off a cliff the baby will fall to the ground and die. God will not intervene and reverse gravity in order to prevent your sinful act from killing the child.

    God does not “undo” His natural law in response to our sinfulness. God did not ordain that He would be move by us but that we would be moved by Him. On the surface this might seem cruel and uncompassionate but if you think about it, not violating our free will (even when we sin) represents a profound love that is difficult for our finite minds to fully grasp. God does not react to us, God is the unmoved mover. If we choose to mettle in Gods natural law, God will not intervene and/or prevent His natural law from occurring, but that does not make our actions just and we will be held accountable.

    It is precisely because God does not reverse the natural order of things that we have a grave responsibility to choose our actions wisely. If you are a Christian who believes that ALL life is sacred and that ALL life begins at conception then you cannot in good conscience allow HUMAN embryos to be created in a lab (for any reason) anymore than you can allow human babies to be thrown off cliffs. There really is no natural difference.

    Some will say, “if it was not Gods will then it would not be possible to create a human embryo in a lab” but the same can be said of murder, rape and theft, it it was not Gods will then it would not be possible.

    Life begins at conception and God ordained that conception would occur during intercourse between a married man and a married woman. not in test tube in a lab. Every single embryo created (regardless of the mode of creation) has an eternal soul imparted by God.

    We should not tempt God. If tomorrow scientist discovered a way to make a half man half dog should we do it because “if could not happen if God did not will it?”

    I hope you will consider this prayerfully.

    God Bless,

    “if you want to enter life, keep the commandments”

    Jesus

  • February 2, 2016 at 7:16pm

    @titanium

    You didn’t even read the link that you posted did you? The very first line reads,

    “The Crusades were expeditions undertaken, in fulfillment of a solemn vow, to deliver the Holy Places from Mohammedan tyranny”

    Not sure if you are up on current events but “Mohammedan tyranny” was not Christian believers, try to take one guess what Mohammedan tyranny is? (Hint – ISIS)

    You still have not provided a single quote, encyclical or any historical proof or evidence for your claims.

    “if you want to enter life, keep the commandments”

    -Jesus

  • [2] February 2, 2016 at 6:31pm

    Peter was already married when Jesus chose him. Should Jesus have made him divorce his wife?

    In accordance with scripture when a married Priest from another faith say Anglican or Methodist or Episcopalian enters the Catholic church as a Priest they remain married. They are not required to divorce.

    The point is Paul was single and remained single and said,

    1 Cor 7:1
    It is good for a man not to have sexual relations with a woman.

    1 Cor 7:8
    Now to the unmarried and the widows I say: IT IS GOOD FOR THEM TO STAY UNMARRIED, AS I DO.

    1 Cor 7:32-33
    I would like you to be free from concern. An unmarried man is concerned about the Lord’s affairs—how he can please the Lord. But a married man is concerned about the affairs of this world—how he can please his wife— and his interests are divided

    1 Cor 7:34-35
    An unmarried woman or virgin is concerned about the Lord’s affairs: Her aim is to be devoted to the Lord in both body and spirit. But a married woman is concerned about the affairs of this world—how she can please her husband. I am saying this for your own good, not to restrict you, but that you may live in a right way in undivided devotion to the Lord.

    The fact that Peter was married when Jesus chose him really has no bearing on Paul’s instructions in scripture. Celibacy for Religious in the church is not a Dogma but a discipline.

    Hope this helps,

    “If you want to enter life, keep the commandments”

    -Jesus

  • February 2, 2016 at 10:28am

    This is why Catholic clergy do not marry, so that – in accordance with the scriptures-, their interests are not divided, so that they can focus solely (souly?) on serving God in BOTH body and spirit.

    1 Cor 7:1
    It is good for a man not to have sexual relations with a woman.

    1 Cor 7:8
    Now to the unmarried and the widows I say: IT IS GOOD FOR THEM TO STAY UNMARRIED, AS I DO.

    1 Cor 7:32-33
    I would like you to be free from concern. An unmarried man is concerned about the Lord’s affairs—how he can please the Lord. But a married man is concerned about the affairs of this world—how he can please his wife— and his interests are divided

    1 Cor 7:34-35
    An unmarried woman or virgin is concerned about the Lord’s affairs: Her aim is to be devoted to the Lord in both body and spirit. But a married woman is concerned about the affairs of this world—how she can please her husband. I am saying this for your own good, not to restrict you, but that you may live in a right way in undivided devotion to the Lord.

    “if you want to enter life, keep the commandments”

    -Jesus

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  • February 2, 2016 at 9:37am

    Gay marriage is dividing (and will continue to divide) Protestants/Evangelicals like nothing before in the history of Protestantism.

    The doctrine of “salvation by faith alone” is totally powerless to the issue of gay marriage (and all sin) and here is why,

    IF salvation TRULY is by “FAITH ALONE” and sin has NO EFFECT on a person’s salvation (once they believe in Jesus Christ) then who can say that any particular type of sin cuts someone off from the

    “free gift of salvation by faith alone in Jesus Christ” ???

    If abstaining from certain sins (such as homosexual acts) makes a person “right with God” then something the person DID (not their faith alone) saved them…….…period.

    The entire Protestant/Evangelical framework stands or falls on Martin Luther’s doctrine of Sola Fide (salvation by faith alone).

    This doctrine teaches that once a person believes in Jesus Christ ALL of their past, present and FUTURE sins are COVERED (hidden from God) by the blood of Jesus Christ so that whenever a believer sins God does not see them sinning God only sees Jesus righteousness.

    Well if that is true, then homosexual sinners who believe in Jesus Christ have ALL of their sins hidden from God through faith in Jesus Christ just like heterosexual sinners do.

    This is where Martin Luther’s doctrine of “salvation by faith alone” falls flat. If salvation TRULY is by “faith alone” and ALL of a believers sins (including FUTURE sins) are HIDDEN from God by their faith alone then God can’t even see the gay couples sin, God can only see Jesus righteousness.

    So the ONLY viable option (for Christians who believe that salvation is by faith alone) is to accept that gay marriage (like all other sins) is “hidden” from God by believing in Jesus Christ. This is the dilemma that is dividing Protestants/Evangelicals (and will continue to do so) like nothing before in the history of Protestantism/Evangelicalism.

    This is the 800 lb Protestant/Evangelical elephant in the room. Honest Protesants/Evangeliclas are asking themselves the question,

    “why are all of MY sins HIDDEN from God by believing in Jesus Christ but the homosexual who also believes in Jesus is required to abstain from sin in order to be saved?”

    The vast majority (if not all) Protestant churches today have no problem marrying 2 Christians who were previously married and divorced (what Jesus calls Adultery) regardless of the reason(s) for the divorce or the number of previous divorces.

    For example Kentucky County clerk Kim Davis has been married 4 times and divorced 3 times but not a single Protestant/Evangelical Pastor will say that Kim Davis is living in adultery and not “truly saved”. It’s not even an issue to Protestants/Evangelicals.

    As a matter of fact, when Kim Davis went to jail for refusing to issue marriage licenses to gay couples because their marriages “are not valid in the eyes of God” Protestants/Evangelicals (such as Gov Mike Huckabee) rallied to her support and even compared her to the Apostle Paul who was imprisoned for his faith.

    Kim Davis sin-cerely believes that her first 3 marriages were all “valid in the eyes of God” until she personally invalidated them by getting a divorce and she also believes that her 4th and current “re-marriage” is “valid in the eyes of God” and if for some reason her current marriage ends with a 4th divorce there is not a single Protestant/Evangelical church that will refuse to “re-marry” her again or that will say she is not “truly saved”

    So clearly there is a double standard here. All of Kim Davis sins (and divorces) are covered by her “faith alone” in Jesus Christ but gay couples must believe in Jesus Christ AND abstain from sin in order to truly be saved. In other words heterosexual sinners are saved by their “faith alone” but homosexual sinners are saved by faith PLUS works.

    The Protestants/Evangelicals who are accepting gay marriage are simply affirming the doctrine of “salvation by faith alone” and refusing to be hypocrites.

    Deep down inside these Protestants/Evangelicals realize that telling anyone that they must DO anything (besides believe in Jesus) in order to be saved is a tacit denial of the doctrine of “salvation by faith alone” and THAT is not an option.

    “If you want to enter life, keep the commandments”

    -Jesus

  • [2] February 2, 2016 at 9:31am

    “marriage…is a bonding that originates with G-d.”

    Interesting. Not a single Protestant church today forbids the severing of this “bond that originates with God” as Protestants no longer consider holy matrimony a “sacrament”.

    Today Protestant couples say the words “till death do us part” but in reality it’s “until one or both of us decides to get a divorce”

    “that society has taken G-d out of it does not alter its origin or the significance of it being one man and one woman for life.”

    That is not only intellectually dishonest but it is historically false. It was Protestants who first removed God from marriage when they declared that marriage was no longer a “sacrament”.

    To accuse secular society of “taking God out of marriage” is the pot calling the kettle black. Protestants removed God from the bond of marriage and secular society is simply acknowledging what Protestants have already declared and been practicing for decades.

    “G-d’s laws overrule man’s laws when the two are in conflict”

    And yet Protestants allow unlimited divorce and remarriage for any reason(s). Today more and more Protestant churches are even allowing gay marriage (according to the doctrine of salvation by faith alone) and just like artificial contra-ception within 50 years no one will even remember that there was a time when Protestants did not allow divorce or gay marriage.

    The words “bonding that originates with God” is the Protestant way of saying “marriage was instituted by God but since you are saved by faith alone you can actually divorce and remarry as many times as you like”

    Protestants necessarily had to remove the sanctity of marriage (declare that marriage is no longer a sacrament) in order to justify the unbiblical practice of allowing unlimited divorce and remarriage for any reason and now that they have “removed God from the bond of marriage” they stomp their feet and shout that the government and homosexuals are “trampling on the sanctity of marriage!” That is simply untrue, it was Protestants who removed God from marriage when they declared that marriage is no longer a sacrament…… secular society is simply agreeing with Protestants.

    “Jesus said, ‘Go and sin no more’”

    Indeed. And yet many times in this forum you have claimed that Gods commandments are “impossible to obey” and Protestants say “no amount of sin can make you lose your salvation” Clearly there is a divide between what Jesus taught and the carnal christianity that is being peddled today.

    I will continue to pray for you as you struggle to accept Gods commands in scripture.

    “if you want to enter life, keep the commandments”

    -Jesus

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