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  • May 27, 2016 at 8:06pm

    Sorry about that ITB I saw you agreeing with zip so I thought that he had finally convinced you that God is a Trinity? Is that not so?

    Did I assume wrong and you actually convinced zip that God IS NOT a Trinity?

    To be honest it is really hard to keep track of which Protestants believe what (and I don’t mean that sarcastically I mean it sincerely,there are many different Christians in this forum with opposing beliefs and I can’t keep track of what every single Protestant/Evangelical believes.

    Just to be clear so that I do not confuse zips beliefs with your beliefs do you agree with all of Zip Goodman’s beliefs below?

    1. “God killed Jesus”

    2. “The Bible never refers to man as a creature”

    3. “God is not the Holy Spirit”

    4. “The KJV Bible is not infallible”

    5. “The KJV Bible has many known errors”

    6. “The KJV Bible has mistranslations”

    7. “Jesus frequently disobeyed the commandments”

    God Bless,

    “if you want to enter life, keep the commandments”

    -Jesus

  • [1] May 27, 2016 at 7:44pm

    @zip

    Still avoiding the questions and creating distractions I see.

    I will ask the questions again,

    1. Is Jesus Divine (God)?

    2. Is God 3 PERSONS in ONE GOD (Is God a Trinity)?

    You cannot call yourself a Christian if you deny that Jesus is God AND if you deny the doctrine of the TRINITY. God is 3 persons in ONE GOD.

    Regarding your latest heresy,

    “G-d struck Messiah with the strike we deserve and killed Him in our place. Yes, G-d the Father killed Jesus (Isaiah 53), no one else could.”

    God did not kill Jesus (God) and anyone who foolishly believes so does not have a sound grasp of the Hypostatic Union AND/OR does believe that God is 3 persons (A Trinity)

    Isaiah 53:4 says,

    Isaiah 53:4
    Yet it was our weaknesses he carried; it was our sorrows that weighed him down. And WE THOUGHT his troubles WERE A PUNISHMENT FROM GOD, a punishment for his own sins!

    NOTE: God’s death was not a punishment from God.

    Key points about the TWO NATURES of Jesus Christ (God)

    1. Jesus is both fully human and fully Divine. Jesus is God. Jesus Divine nature (God) cannot be “killed”. Jesus Divine nature (God) cannot “die”. Jesus Divine Nature (God) did not “kill” Himself.

    2. Jesus human nature experienced everything we experience. Jesus human nature experienced temptation (in the desert), anguish (in the garden), anger (in the temple), sadness (Lazarus death), passion (at the pilar), death (on the cross). Jesus human nature (not His Divine nature). God cannot be tempted, God cannot not fear. God cannot suffer. Jesus human nature died on the cross, not his Divine nature. This is Christian 101.

    3. If God “killed” God (suicide) He would be guilty of doing what Judas did. God cannot “kill” Himself.

    4. God is perfectly just. Striking and killing Jesus (a sinless man) for the sins of the ungodly would make God unjust.

    5. Jesus said “father forgive them, for they know not what they do”. If God killed Jesus then Jesus prayer makes no sense.

    6. Human beings are created beings. God created us and therfore it is just for God to end what he began. Jesus on the other hand is not a creature/created being and has no begining and no end, He is the Alpha and the Omega. Jesus is not a created being. To say that God “killed” Jesus shows a complete lack of understanding of who Jesus is (which further explains the zips blasphemous claim back in April that “Jesus frequently disobeyed the commandments)

    7. The Bible says that Jesus laid down His life WILLINGLY. The Bible no where says that God killed Jesus. It says that Jesus was crushed (not the Hebrew word for “killed”)

    8. Jesus OFFERED His life, His life was not TAKEN. God GAVE His only begotten Son He did not TAKE His only begotten Son (John 3:16)

    9. A soul cannot be “killed” when the ungodly go to hell God does not put them in hell, the ungodly CHOOSE hell over heaven. The ungodly CHOOSE sin which leads to death over obedience which leads to righteousness.

    Sadly the poster sees Jesus death as a VENGEFUL KILLING, a life TAKEN by God when in reality Jesus death is a LOVING SACRIFICE, Jesus GIVING His life for the world. This is the fundamental error in zips understanding of God which actually more closely parallels Calvin or Mohammeds understanding of God.

    LESSONS IN HEBREW

    The Hebrew word for “death inflicted BY God” or “to be put to death BY God is “Muth”.

    Derivatives of the Hebrew word Muth occur 839 times in the Old Testament but not a single derivation of Muth is found in Isaiah 53.

    Isaiah 53 actually says, (and this is why it is important to check and verify verses that people reference)

    Isaiah 53
    Yet it was the will of the LORD to crush him; he has put him to grief; when his soul makes an offering for guilt, he shall see his offspring; he shall prolong his days; the will of the LORD shall prosper in his hand.

    Notice it was God’s “will” that Jesus suffer and die for our sins. Isaiah 53 does not say “God killed Jesus” that is zip imposing his beliefs on the word of God. If in fact God did “kill” Jesus the correct word “Muth” would have been used, it was not. What zip fails to see is Jesus had free will just like we have free will. Jesus could have denied the Father just as you or I can deny the will of the father, Lucifer denied the will of the Father. Zip’s distorted understanding of God does not allow for free will (and neither does Calvins)

    Also, zip seems to overlook the fact that in the story of Abraham in the Old Testament Abraham DID NOT kill His son so the comparison is not correct (or at least zips comparison)

    The fact that Abraham did not did not even “lay a hand on the boy” and did not “do anything to him” shows that it is not in the mind of God for a Father to “kill” his own son. Actually the story of Abraham is a TYPE/FORESHADOW of God the Father NOT killing Jesus, just as Abraham the father did NOT kill his son Isaac. In the New Testament Jesus lays himself on the alter and sinful man kills Him. You and I killed Jesus zip.

    God willed that Jesus OFFER Himself up to be sacrificed and Jesus always DOES the will of the Father (John 6:38). If God simply desired to kill Jesus Himself He could have (would have) killed Jesus Himself, clearly that was not God’s intent. The whole point of the Gospel is that Jesus WILLINGLY OFFERED HIMSELF for the atonment of our sins. If Jesus was “killed” by God then Jesus did not offer himself up. If Jesus did not offer Himself up they we are not saved by love but by an unjust killing of an innocent man.

    zip sees the words “God killed him” in Isaiah 53 because that is what zip has been taught. Zip reads the Bible through the lens of his presupposition (taught by Calvin) that God “killed” Jesus. Most likely zip also believes in Calvins 5 points aka T.U.L.I.P. and may not even realize it.

    God did not kill Jesus, WE killed Jesus and Jesus let us kill Him because he loves us.

    Additionally,

    The Hebrew word for “kill” is Chalal. Chalal occurs 91 times in the Old Testament but not once in Isaiah 53.

    The Hebrew word for “killed” is Haraq. Haraq occurs 167 times in the Old Testament but not once in Isaiah 53

    The Hebrew word for “slaughter” is Shachat. Shachat occurs 81 times in the Old Testament but not once in Isaiah 53.

    The Hebrew word for “murder” is Ratsach. Ratsach occurs 47 times in the Old Testament but not once in Isaiah 53.

    The Hebrew word for “butcher” is Tabach. Tabach occurs 17 times in the Old Testament but not once in Isaiah 53.

    The Hebrew word for “slay” is Qetal. Qetal occurs 7 times in the Old Testament but not once in Isaiah 53.

    As Lest points out, zip has been proven wrong by Catholics many, many times in this forum (see top 5 quotes below) and because of his pride zip has gradually allowed the spirit of hatred to take up residence in his heart.

    Zip believes that salvation is by faith alone and doctrines and practices have NOTHING to do with salvation but he spends all of his time telling people who believe in Jesus Christ that they are not saved…..because of……their doctrines. Zip is a confused man who obsesses over and hates the Catholic church. No doubt in part because he believes that the Catholic church “murdered millions of Jews” which he read on the Internet.

    As Lest says, we are here for you zip, you can join us in telling people about Jesus Christ and defending the faith against atheists and people who deny that God exists or you can continue to attack fellow Christians and provoke anger and division. The choice is yours brother…..

    Have a Blessed Memorial Day

    RIP SHAWNEE-6, I miss you brother…..

    Top 5 zip goodman quotes,

    “The Bible never refers to man as a creature”

    “The KJV Bible is not infallible”

    “The KJV Bible has many errors and mistranslations”

    “Jesus frequently disobeyed the commandments”

    “God killed Jesus”

    -lcdr_zip_goodman_usn_ret

    “if you want to enter life, keep the commandments”

    -Jesus

  • [3] May 27, 2016 at 6:53pm

    @who

    cont’d

    That being said you are correct that Irenaeus is clear that Christians will not escape the Tribulation. Irenaeus says that the Tribulation will be the “last contest of the righteous” and when (future tense) they overcome they will be (future tense) crowned.

    Irrenaeus and Polycarp are 2 of my favorite Catholic writers. Most of their writings rebuke many of the same heresies that are reemerging today.

    And who are RIGHTEOUS in God’s eyes?

    Rom 2:13
    it is not those who hear the law who are righteous in Gods eyes it is THOSE WHO OBEY THE LAW who WILL BE DECLARED RIGHTEOUS.

    Luke 1:6
    both of them were righteous in the eyes of God OBEYING ALL OF THE LORDS COMMANDMENTS and DECREES BLAMELESSLY.

    Jesus tells us that He will separate the sheep from the goats putting the sheep on His right and the goats on His left. The sheep who obeyed God go to eternal life but the goats who disobeyed God go away to eternal punishment.

    Matt 25:46
    Then the King will answer, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not DO for one of the least of these, you did not DO for Me.’ And they will GO AWAY TO ETERNAL PUNISHMENT, but THE RIGHTEOUS INTO ETERNAL LIFE.”

    Rom 2:6-7
    But because of your stubbornness and your unrepentant heart, you are storing up wrath against yourself for the day of God’s wrath, when his RIGHTEOUS JUDGMENT will be revealed. GOD WILL REPAY EACH PERSON ACCORDING TO WHAT THEY HAVE DONE. God “will repay each person according to what they have done.” To those who by persistence in DOING GOOD seek glory, honor and immortality, HE WILL GIVE ETERNAL LIFE.

    Many Christians today have been taught that the “yoke of slavery” that Paul talks about is Gods 10 Commandments.

    That is a lie, the “yoke of slavery” is not Gods perfect commandments…. the “yoke of slavery” is BONDAGE TO SIN (which leads to death)

    The Bible tells us explicity that God’s commandments ARE NOT a yoke or a “burden”

    1 John 5:3 (ESV for those of you who reject the KJV)
    For THIS is the LOVE OF GOD, that WE KEEP HIS COMMANDMENTS. And his commandments ARE NOT BURDENSOME.

    Jesus HIMSELF tells us that His yoke IS NOT a “burden”

    Matt 11:30
    Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me; for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. 3For My yoke is easy and My burden is light.”

    All those who claim that God’s commandments are a “burden” that are “impossible to obey” were prophesied in the Old Testament,

    Jeremiah 6:16
    Thus says the LORD, “Stand by the ways and see and ask for the ancient paths, Where the good way is, and walk in it; And you will find rest for your souls. But they said, ‘We will not walk in it.’

    To all who spread the heresy that Gods’s perfect commandments are “impossible to obey” , the Bible says,

    Ecclesiastes 12:13
    Now all has been heard; HERE IS THE CONCLUSION of the matter: FEAR GOD AND KEEP HIS COMMANDMENTS, for THIS IS THE DUTY OF ALL MANKIND.

    To all of you who were told that Paul taught that God’s commandments are “impossible to obey” please take note of Pauls explicit warning to the Christians in Ephesus

    Eph 5:3
    For OF THIS YOU CAN BE SURE: NO IMMORAL, IMPURE or greedy person—such a person is an idolater—HAS ANY INHERITANCE IN THE KINGDOM OF CHRIST AND OF GOD.

    Lest anyone try to distort his words (as is prophecied in 2 Peter 3:16-17) and teach disobedience salvation Paul warns,

    Eph 5:5
    Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of such things GODS WRATH COMES ON THOSE WHO ARE DISOBEDIENT. Therefore DO NOT BE PARTNERS WITH THEM.

    2 Peter 3:16
    ….his [Pauls]letters are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the rest of the Scriptures, to their own destruction. Therefore, beloved, since you already know these things, be on your guard not to be carried away by the error of the lawless and fall from your secure position.…

    God Bless,

    “if you want to enter life, keep the commandments”

    -Jesus

  • [1] May 27, 2016 at 6:46pm

    @who

    You do know that Irenaeus was a Catholic yes/no?

    That being said, it seems that you are reading Irenaeus through the lens of your presupposition.

    Irenaeus is saying that the tribulation is the “last contest” righteous (the people of God aka Christians)

    “For this is the last contest of the righteous, in which, when (future tense) they overcome they are crowned with incorruption.”

  • [4] May 27, 2016 at 3:47pm

    @who

    Excellent post! Irenaeus is clear that the Tribulation will be the “last contest of the righteous” and when (future tense) they “overcome” they will be (future tense) crowned.

    Irrenaeus and Polycarp are 2 of my favorite Catholic writers. In their time they addressed (rebuked) many of the same heresies that are reemerging today.

    And who are RIGHTEOUS in God’s eyes?

    Rom 2:13
    it is not those who hear the law who are righteous in Gods eyes it is THOSE WHO OBEY THE LAW who WILL BE DECLARED RIGHTEOUS.

    Luke 1:6
    both of them were righteous in the eyes of God OBEYING ALL OF THE LORDS COMMANDMENTS and DECREES BLAMELESSLY.

    Jesus tells us that He will separate the sheep from the goats putting the sheep on His right and the goats on His left. The sheep who obeyed God go to eternal life but the goats who disobeyed God go away to eternal punishment.

    Matt 25:46
    Then the King will answer, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not DO for one of the least of these, you did not DO for Me.’ And they will GO AWAY TO ETERNAL PUNISHMENT, but THE RIGHTEOUS INTO ETERNAL LIFE.”

    Rom 2:6-7
    But because of your stubbornness and your unrepentant heart, you are storing up wrath against yourself for the day of God’s wrath, when his RIGHTEOUS JUDGMENT will be revealed. GOD WILL REPAY EACH PERSON ACCORDING TO WHAT THEY HAVE DONE. God “will repay each person according to what they have done.” To those who by persistence in DOING GOOD seek glory, honor and immortality, HE WILL GIVE ETERNAL LIFE.

    Many Christians today have been taught that the “yoke of slavery” that Paul talks about is Gods 10 Commandments.

    That is a lie, the “yoke of slavery” is not Gods perfect commandments…. the “yoke of slavery” is BONDAGE TO SIN (which leads to death)

    The Bible tells us explicity that God’s commandments ARE NOT a yoke or a “burden”

    1 John 5:3 (ESV for those of you who reject the KJV)
    For THIS is the LOVE OF GOD, that WE KEEP HIS COMMANDMENTS. And his commandments ARE NOT BURDENSOME.

    Jesus HIMSELF tells us that His yoke IS NOT a “burden”

    Matt 11:30
    Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me; for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. 3For My yoke is easy and My burden is light.”

    All those who claim that God’s commandments are a “burden” that are “impossible to obey” were prophesied in the Old Testament,

    Jeremiah 6:16
    Thus says the LORD, “Stand by the ways and see and ask for the ancient paths, Where the good way is, and walk in it; And you will find rest for your souls. But they said, ‘We will not walk in it.’

    To all who spread the heresy that Gods’s perfect commandments are “impossible to obey” , the Bible says,

    Ecclesiastes 12:13
    Now all has been heard; HERE IS THE CONCLUSION of the matter: FEAR GOD AND KEEP HIS COMMANDMENTS, for THIS IS THE DUTY OF ALL MANKIND.

    To all of you who were told that Paul taught that God’s commandments are “impossible to obey” please take note of Pauls explicit warning to the Christians in Ephesus

    Eph 5:5
    For OF THIS YOU CAN BE SURE: NO IMMORAL, IMPURE or greedy person—such a person is an idolater—HAS ANY INHERITANCE IN THE KINGDOM OF CHRIST AND OF GOD.

    Lest anyone try to distort his words (as is prophecied in 2 Peter 3:16-17) to teach disobedience salvation Paul warns,

    Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of such things GODS WRATH COMES ON THOSE WHO ARE DISOBEDIENT. Therefore DO NOT BE PARTNERS WITH THEM.

    God Bless,

    “if you want to enter life, keep the commandments”

    -Jesus

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  • [2] May 25, 2016 at 9:40pm

    @zip

    Cont’d

    Over the past year you have been proven wrong over and over and over again and have failed to make a sound biblical or historical defense for your doctrines and now you are turning your anger and frustration towards Jesus Mother.

    You still have not answered the questions,

    1. Is Jesus Divine?

    2. Is God a Blessed Trinity (3 persons in ONE God)

    You know that you cannot answer, and so you are enraged and attack Jesus Mother.

    Rev 12:17
    Then the dragon was enraged at the woman and went off to wage war against the rest of her offspring–THOSE WHO KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS OF GOD and THEIR FAITH IN JESUS CHRIST.

    Israel does not keep faith in Jesus Christ…..

    “if you want to enter life, keep the commandments”

    -Jesus

  • [1] May 25, 2016 at 9:31pm

    @zip

    You are bearing false witness again and being deceitful

    In April you stated that

    “Jesus frequently disobeyed the commandments” (which is blasphemy which denies that Jesus is the Christ)

    Then when we rebuked you for blaspheming the Holy Spirit you doubled down and said that Jesus broke the Sabbath by eating grain in the field and you said that Jesus often sinned as way of teaching people.

    You did this to defend your previous lie that God’s commandments are impossible to obey”

    Now you are spinning the web of deceit even larger by trying to say that you intentionally blasphemed the Holy Spirit just to get Catholics talking about Jesus.

    This is probably the 20th time that you have been proven wrong and caught in a lie and then tried to wiggle your way out by saying that you actually believed the opposite of what you were saying all along.

    You either have a severe mental disorder or you are simply a liar. Only God knows…..

    I am putting together a detailed response to your claim that “God killed Jesus”

    “if you want to enter life, keep the commandments”

    -Jesus

  • May 25, 2016 at 8:00pm

    “…NO ONE CAN KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS.”

    You are wrong. You have been taught a false Gospel according to men.

    Luke 1:6
    both of them were RIGHTEOUS in the eyes of God OBEYING ALL OF THE LORDS COMMANDMENTS and DECREES BLAMELESSLY.

    “God’s standard is PERFECTION, so, unless you meet that, you’re toast.”

    Jesus said “be perfect even as your heavenly Father is perfect” I think the problem you are having is that you don’t understand what the word “perfect” means in the Bible. No doubt someone taught you that “perfect” in the Bible means “sinless” It does not. If you look up the words perfect, righteous,blameless, innocent, godly, upright and holy in the New Testament you will see that NONE of these words means sinless. Keep studying and seeking the truth of salvation IN Christ Jesus and God will show you the truth. If you continue to tell God that His perfect commandments are “impossible to obey” you will not receive Gods grace and you are right, you will NEVER be able to live according to the will of God.

    “This is why He also says in His Word, “There is NONE righteous, not even one.”

    The Bible says that Zachariah and Elizabeth were righteous. The Bible says tha Job was a righteous man. No doubt most of what you have been taught comes from Pauls letters. You might want to go back and read them slowly one at a time.

    Luke 1:6
    both of them were RIGHTEOUS in the sight of God OBEYING ALL OF THE LORDS COMMANDS AND DECREES BLAMELESSY.

    “For I tell you that unless your righteousness SURPASSES that of the Pharisees and the teachers of the law, you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven.”

    AMEN! and who are righteous ?

    Rom 2:13
    it is not those who hear the law who are righteous in God’s sight it is those who OBEY THE LAW who WILL BE DECLARED RIGHTEOUS

    Eph 5:5
    of this YOU CAN BE CERTAIN, NO IMMORAL, IMPURE or greedy person -such a person is an idolator, HAS ANY INHERITANCE in the KINGDOM OF CHRIST AND OF GOD. Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of such things GOD’s WRATH COMES ON THOSE WHO ARE DISOBEDIENT. Therefore do not be partners with them

    “His point of saying “If you want to enter life, keep my commandments” was to illustrate that keeping the commandments was IMPOSSIBLE”

    That is a lie

    Luke 1:6
    both of them were righteous in the eyes of God OBEYING ALL of the Lords commandments and decrees BLAMELESSLY.

    “He fulfilled the law by dying on the cross in OUR PLACE”

    Fulfilled means fully obeyed, it does not mean abolished.

    Matt 7:21-23
    Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but ONLY the one WHO DOES THE WILL OF MY FATHER who is in heaven. Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’ 23Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I NEVER KNEW YOU. AWAY FROM YOU WORKERS OF LAWLESSNESS!

    “that includes all of you “commandment keepers” out there)”

    Jesus was a “commandment keeper” why do you mock Jesus?

    “they realized that the mark was COMPLETELY UNATTAINABLE.”

    Luke 1:6
    both of them were RIGHTEOUS in the eyes of God OBEYING ALL OF THE LORDS COMMANDMENTS and DECREES BLAMELESSLY.

    “keeping the commandments was IMPOSSIBLE for men.”

    Luke 1:6
    both of them were RIGHTEOUS in the eyes of God OBEYING ALL OF THE LORDS COMMANDMENTS and DECREES BLAMELESSLY.

    “It is not what we DO, but what He DID”

    Rom 2:5-7
    But because of your STUBBORNESS and your UNREPENTANT heart, you are storing up wrath against yourself for the day of God’s wrath, when his righteous judgment will be revealed. GOD WILL REPAY EACH PERSON ACCORDING TO WHAT THEY HAVE DONE. To those who by persistence in DOING GOOD seek glory, honor and immortality, HE WILL GIVE ETERNAL LIFE.

    “If you think you can get in through your filthy rags righteousness, good luck.”

    If you think you can get in by telling God that His perfect commandments are “impossible to obey” good luck.

    “Me, I’ll rely on His grace.”

    You believe in a false grace, according to the scriptures Jesus is ONLY the source of eternal salvation for those wo OBEY Him and God ONLY gives His grace to those who OBEY him. You THINK that you can receive God’s grace by telling God that His commandments are “impossible to obey” you THINK that you can reject obedience to God and claim His Son Jesus Christ as your Savior, you are wrong. As long as you continue in your sinful rebellion telling God that His commandments are “impossible to obey” God will not listen to your prayers.

    Heb 5:9
    and, once made perfect, he became the source of eternal salvation FOR ALL WHO OBEY HIM

    Acts 5:31
    We are witnesses of these things, and so is the Holy Spirit, WHOM GOD GIVES TO THOSE WHO OBEY HIM

    John 9:31
    We know that God does not listen to sinners. He listens to THE GODLY PERSON WHO DOES HIS WILL.

    The false Gospel that you have been taught was created by ignorant and unstable men who distort Pauls letters to their own destruction teaching lawless salvation.

    2 Peter 3:16
    His letters are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the rest of the Scriptures, to their own destruction. Therefore, beloved, since you already know these things, be on your guard not to be carried away by the error of the lawless and fall from your secure position

    You have been taught a false disobedience Gospel. Your unrepentant and rebellious claim that God’s perfect commandments are “impossible to obey” has cut yo off from God’s grace and is blinding you to the truth of savlation IN Jesus Christ. You can claim to be a “follower” of Jesus Christ but ONLY those who DO the will of the Father will inherit the kingdom of God.

    Repent and OBEY THE GOSPEL. The Kingdom of God is at hand.

    “if you want to enter life, keep the commandments”

    -Jesus

  • [2] May 25, 2016 at 3:40am

    @zip

    “G-d struck Messiah with the strike we deserve and killed Him in our place. Yes, G-d the Father killed Jesus (Isaiah 53), no one else could.”

    No zip, God did not kill Jesus (God) You clearly do not have a sound grasp of the Hypostatic Union OR you do not believe that Jesus is Divine (God)

    Now that I think about it, you once stated that the Holy Spirit was not God and back in April when you stated that “Jesus frequently disobeyed the commandments” Lest rebuked you and repeatedly asked you if Jesus was Divine and you never answered. To this day you have not answered the question zip.

    I must ask you,

    1. Is Jesus Divine?

    2. Is God 3 seperate persons in ONE God, (the Trinity)

    I will make a prediction that you will not answer or if you do reply you will simply ramble on about “Messiah” and being “indwelt with the Holy Spirit” and continue to create distractions and evade the question.

    I sincerely hope that I am wrong as you cannot deny these 2 truths and call yourself a Christian.

    Why wont you say it zip? I think you and I both know why you wont say it…you wont say it because you cannot say it, and why cant you say it zip? Prove me wrong (for once) be bold for Jesus and admit the He is God. Not simply “Messiah” but God the Son, second person of the most Blessed Trinity. Why dont you come clean for once and tell everyone why you hyphenate “God” but you do not hyphenate the name of JESUS? We both know why zip, but you wont be honest will you . You cannot…..

    Prove me wrong, answer the questions.

    “If you want to enter life, keep the commandments”

    -JESUS

  • May 24, 2016 at 8:16pm

    @STK

    Appreciate your comments.

    Just to be clear, my comments are not directed at any particular church or individul or intended as a condemnation of JW’s or anyone else. My comments are directed towards what I believe to be false doctines/teachings.

    That being said the principle of “not accetable BUT not forbidden” is an oxymoron just as the term “carnal christian” is an oxymoron.

    If God does in fact have a church and His church is guided by the Holy Spirit then She can be nothing but infallible.

    If a church cannot rule infallibly (bind and loose on earth and in heaven and forgive and retain sins) then that church most assuredly is not God’s church.

    It is contradictory to declare to be God’s “spirit led” church but at the same time to declare that your church cannot bind and loose or forgive and retain peoples sins. The sole (soul) purpose of God’s church is the salvation of souls, of what profit is a church that cannot bind and loose (on earth and in heaven) and forgive and retain peoples sins?

    Absent the power to bind and loose and forgive and retain sins that “church” is nothing more than a venue for motivational speeches and uplifting music.

    All of the division and confusion that exists in Christianity today is precisely because “churches” cannot bind and loose and forgive and retain peoples sins.

    Oddly enough these same “churches” who teach that no church (not even God’s church) has the authority to bind and loose and forgive and retain sins have no problem teaching people that they can BOLDLY declare to God that they are “saved” even before Christ judges them.

    The mind is confused that denies that Gods church can bind and loose and forgive and retain sins while also affirming that every individual can usurp Jesus authority and BOLDLY declare to God and others that they have no need for Christ judgement because they have already deemed themselves “saved”

    God Bless

    “If you want to enter life, keep the commandments”

    -Jesus

  • May 24, 2016 at 4:45pm

    ITB

    “No plane no God”????? Seriously? You need to change your foil hat cuz it ain’t working brother.

    “If you want to enter life, keep the commandments”

    -Jesus

  • May 24, 2016 at 12:41pm

    LOL, excellent point!

  • May 24, 2016 at 12:36pm

    Kingdom of CHRISTMAS =Kingdom of Christ. I really need to disable spell checker.

  • May 24, 2016 at 12:30pm

    ”Does it line up with the Bible?” “Does godly council agree?”

    1. Who decides if a teaching “lines up with the Bible”?

    Today there are over 40,000 “Bible based” churches who disagree with each other about what is and is not “essential” for salvation and every single one of them sin-cerely believes that their doctrines and beliefs “line up with the Bible” and “agree with godly counsel”

    2. The list of “Bible based” churches that accept gay clergy and gay marriage is steadily growing and every single one of them sin-cerely believes that God is speaking to them and gay marriage and gay clergy “line up with the Bible” and “agree with godly counsel” and they are “at peace” with their beliefs.

    3. Today not a single “Bible based” Protestant/Evangelical church forbids Abortion and every single one of them allows unlimited divorce and remarriage for any reason whatsoever.

    Every single one of these “Bible based” churches sin-cerely believes that allowing Abortion and unlimited divorce and remarriage for any reason at all “lines up with the Bible” and “agrees with godly counsel”.

    What the author fails to see (or refuses to see) is the doctrines of easy believism and no amount of sin can keep me from going to heaven were created by men and these unbiblical traditions make EVERYTHING “in line with the Bible”.

    God is absolutely speaking to us in Eph 5:5 and God says,

    Eph 5:5
    Of this you can be CERTAIN: No IMMORAL, IMPURE or greedy person—such a person is an idolater—HAS ANY INHERITANCE IN THE KINGDOM OF CHRISTMAS AND OF GOD. Let no one deceive you with EMPTY WORDS, for because of such things God’s wrath comes on those who are DISOBEDIENT. Therefore DO NOT be partners with them.

    So we can “listen to the voices in our head” that say “Jesus suffered and died so that you do not have to obey God” and “go ahead and sin, you are already saved” or we can obey God’s words in Eph 5:5.

    The idea that we can gratify the desires of the flesh and still inherit the kingdom of God is VERY appealing to our sinful nature it’s just not true.

    Many Christians today have been taught that when Paul speaks of the “yoke of slavery” he is talking about God’s commandments. This is a lie. The “yoke of slavery” is not God’s commandments, the “yoke of slavery” is sin and disobedience.

    No doubt this will anger many people who have “accepted” Jesus Christ on the precondition that they can continue to indulge the flesh and still inherit the kingdom of God and all of the Disciples of Paul will post the 4 or 5 verses from Paul that they believe tell them they can ignore God’s laws and live according the flesh and still inherit the kingdom of God….

    Good luck with your new book Pastor…no doubt it will reap the benefits…

    “If you want to enter life, keep the commandments”

    -Jesus

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  • [4] May 23, 2016 at 10:37pm

    @zip

    “If you had any clue what I was saying before”

    Sure zip, whatever you say, uttering blasphemy was all part of your grand master plan and we just dont get the genius that is you.

    You claimed that Jesus “frequently disobeyed the commandments” and you were wrong. The fact that you cant just sailor up and admit is a reflection of your character, your juvenile sarcasm after the fact just makes you look petty.

    Jesus never broke a commandment, you were wrong, I didnt create this mess you did.

    Please take a break from embarassing yourself, if not out of self respect at least for fellow combat vets, honestly when you go on about women tracking you and imagining they are dating you its a spectacle and it has nothing to do with spreading the Gospel.

    Take a breather and maybe spend some time with the family, you are coming unglued and its embarassing.

    “if you want to enter life, keep the commandments”

    -Jesus

  • [1] May 23, 2016 at 8:17pm

    Lest, Gita, Freun et al,

    Did you notice this

    “His sinless life”

    Thank You Jesus

    “If you want to enter life, keep the commandments”

    -Jesus

  • May 23, 2016 at 4:56am

    I dont know how to tell you this but we checked the logs and all of your posts have only been read 3 times…..juuuuuuust kidding……

    its the real thing……..

  • May 23, 2016 at 4:47am

    Indeed,

    Luke 1:6
    Both of them were RIGHTEOUS in the eyes of GOD OBEYING ALL OF THE LORDS COMMANDS AND DECREES BLAMELESSLY.

    “if you want to enter life, keep the commandments”

    -Jesus

  • May 23, 2016 at 4:35am

    @bb

    What happens if while you are “going your own way and risking God’s correction” you die?

    Are there any second chances for those who are rebellious and self seeking and choose to go their own way and risk Gods correction?

    Doesnt seem like you’ve truly given this serious thought, you are gambling with your eternal salvation based on an assumption.

    God Bless

    “if you want to enter life, keep the commandments”

    -Jesus

  • May 23, 2016 at 4:11am

    “Nothing we do will result in our saving ourselves.”

    1. The word “ourselves” implies that WE are the means of our salvation and we are not. So I agree with you in PART.

    2. Our obedience alone is not the means of our salvation nor is our faith alone the means of our salvation. In accordance with the scriptures (Rev 14:12) the “saints” are those who keep the commandments and keep faith in Jesus Christ. So obedience to God and faith in Jesus Christ are the means of our salvation.

    3. Its not EITHER faith alone OR obedience alone, it’s BOTH faith AND obedience. In accordance with the scriptures Jesus is only the source of eternal salvation for those who OBEY Him. (Heb 5:9) In accordance with the scriptures we are justified (saved) by what we DO and NOT by faith alone (James 2:24). Your personal definition/understanding of the words “faith alone” really is not relevant to the discussion. You do not own the doctrines of sola fide and eternal security and there are tens of thousands of Christians who reject your personal understanding/-interpretation of Martin Luthers doctrines.

    4. One way to determine if something is true is to state the inverse of it and see if it still holds true (Jesus did this quite often) if a wine skin holds wine you should be able to turn it inside out and it should still hold wine, if it does not, it is not really a wine skin. So the inverse of

    “nothing we do will result in saving ourselves”

    is

    “nothing we do will result in condeming ourselves”

    Do you hold this to be true, that there is nothing a person can do that will result in condemnation? St Paul writes the following in his letter to the Christians in Ephesus,

    Eph 5:5
    For of this YOU CAN BE CERTAIN: NO IMMORAL, IMPURE or greedy person—such a person is an idolater—HAS ANY INHERITANCE in the kingdom of Christ and of God. Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of such things GOD’S WRATH COMES ON THOSE WHO ARE DISOBEDIENT. Therefore do not be partners with them.

    Notice Paul is very clear saying “any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ AND God. Does it sound like Paul is telling the Christians in Ephesus that there is nothing they can do that will result in their condemnation?

    5. By stating the inverse of the principle you avoid saying “no amount of sin can keep me from going to heaven” and your principle seems to be harmless, but it is not. In accordance with the scriptures Paul issues these stark warnings to the Christians he converted in Rome

    Rom 2:6-7
    But because of your stubbornness and your unrepentant heart, you are storing up wrath against yourself for the day of God’s wrath, when his righteous judgment will be revealed. GOD WILL REPAY EVERY PERSON ACCORDING TO WHAT THEY HAVE DONE.” To those who by persistence in doing good seek glory, honor and immortality, he will give ETERNAL LIFE. 

    Rom 2:13
    It is not those who hear the law who are righteous in Gods eyes it is those who OBEY THE LAW who WILL BE DECLARED RIGHTEOUS.

    Thank you for posting, I will pray for you, please pray for me as well.

    In Christ,

    “if you want to enter life, keep the commandments”

    -Jesus

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