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• Pat Robertson Has Some Tough Advice for Cheated-On Women: Do You Agree With Him?

  May 19, 2013 at 2:11pm

  The Evangelical/Protestant doctrines which allow divorce and remarriage and contraception (so that people can enjoy the pleasure of sterile sex without the possibility of the creation of life) and saved by “faith alone” and “once saved always saved” come up wanting in situations such as this. Pat Robertson cannot offer this woman any biblical advice to help her make sense of a non-biblical belief system. According to the first principles of Protestantism/Evangelicalism If this woman’s husband has confessed Jesus Christ as Lord he is already “saved” so NOTHING he does can EVER make him lose his salvation (even if he cheats on his wife every day for the rest of his life) he will not be judged because all of his sins past, present and future have already been “covered” by the blood of Jesus. So the only 2 options (according to Protestant/Evangelical doctrines) are to divorce him (in which case he is still saved anyway and gets to be with the woman he cheated with) or to continue to love him despite his infidelity and instead of complaining about his cheating to rejoice in the fact that he is going to heaven regardless of how much he cheats. Which begs the question, if he is truly already saved and she truly loves him why not let him go be with the other woman he is cheating with? Protestantism/Evangelicalism cannot answer these questions because technically she is judging someone who isalready “saved” and his salvation trumps her feelings and how he treats he

• ‘Blasphemy’: Prominent Faith Leader Calls Obama Out Over His ‘God Bless You’ During Planned Parenthood Speech

  May 19, 2013 at 1:40pm

  In reply to snooop1e.

  To those of you who follow these discussions, when someone cannot make a biblical defense of their position and/or make substantive arguments based on historical facts they resort to personal insults and say things like “you have diarrhea of the mind” This adds nothing to the conversation and cast doubt as to whether the person is spirit led as neither Jesus nor the Apostles nor any Prophet ever cursed or insulted others. Scripture tells us that we should always be ready to make a defense for the hope that is in us but to do it with love and respect. Cursing and insulting others are not fruits of the Holy Spirit. The man made teachings of being saved by faith alone and once saved always saved are man made traditions that were not taught by Jesus or the Apostles or any Prophet and were introduced by a mentally disturbed fallen away Catholic Priest more than 1500 after the last Apostle died. I encourage everyone who is sincerely seeking the truth to study the historical writings of the early church martyrs such as Iranaeus, Ignatius, Polycarp, Clement, Justin Martyr, Augustine and others. Ask yourself why your Pastor or Minister cannot trace his ordination back to the Apostles. Study the principle “reformers” Martin Luther and John Calvin and ask yourself why they completely disagreed with each other on what is essential for salvation if they were both being led by ONE Holy Spirit. Don’t just listen to what some guy tells you the Bible says, find out for yourself.

• ‘Blasphemy’: Prominent Faith Leader Calls Obama Out Over His ‘God Bless You’ During Planned Parenthood Speech

  May 19, 2013 at 12:21am

  In reply to snooop1e.

  @deberj = God and God alone knows what is in a persons heart. By sitting in judgement of Obama you are putting yourself above God and saying that YOUR sinful mind can determine based on a persons works (and not their confession of faith in Jesus Christ) whether or not they are truly righteous. The point you are missing is this. According to your Evangelical/Protestant doctrines of Faith Alone and Once Saved Always Saved Obama is declared righteous not because of his works but because of his confession of faith in Jesus Christ. So when you sit in judgement of a fellow “born again” Christian who confesses Jesus Christ as Lord and according to your own doctrines has already been washed in the blood of Jesus and “saved” not only are you sinning (according to your own first principle) but you are denying your own principles and contradicting yourself. You are saying that you know that Obama is not saved because of his works. Where in your faith does it say that Obama is saved by his works? Why are all of YOUR sins (past, present and future) covered by your confession of faith and YOUR works do not matter but Obama’s do? Are you God? Do you know what is in Obama’s heart? Are you sinless? You either have to admit that we are not saved by faith alone or keep your judgments to yourself and stop judging someone who is saved by faith alone. You can’t have it both ways.

• ‘Blasphemy’: Prominent Faith Leader Calls Obama Out Over His ‘God Bless You’ During Planned Parenthood Speech

  May 18, 2013 at 11:24pm

  @theotherberean – you wrote “The Roman Catholic Church is a quasi Christian religion and not the Church that Jesus Christ built through His Apostles.”

  Where does it say that in Bible? Jesus promised that the gates of hell would never prevail against His church and I trust in Jesus promises. t I put my faith in Jesus not in some guy who trolls blogs and can’t even explain why he accepts the teaching of the Trinity which is not found anywhere in scripture and is not spoken of by Jesus or any Apostle or any Prophet and was revealed by the Catholic church over 300 years after the last Apostle died and who also cannot explain why he accepts the 2nd Canon that is not mentioned anywhere in scripture by Jesus or the Apostles or any Prophet and was determined by the Catholic church at least 400 years after the last Apostle died and yet presumes to tell others what the truth of the Gospel is. When you can explain why you accept the the Trinity and the 2nd Canon which are not mentioned anywhere in scripture and were determined by the Catholic church then I will listen to you. Until then you are just another Joseph Smith who believes that YOU have the fullness of the truth and anyone who disagrees with you is in error. The bottom line is you can’t find biblical or historical proof for any of the things that you believe so you spend your time attacking others. You are blinded by your pride. Just saying ; )

• Burglars Force Homeowner Into Closet – And it Turns out Very, Very Poorly for Them

  May 18, 2013 at 6:10pm

  Democrats will now draft legislation to ban closets nationwide.

• ‘Blasphemy’: Prominent Faith Leader Calls Obama Out Over His ‘God Bless You’ During Planned Parenthood Speech

  May 18, 2013 at 1:27am

  In reply to RaydocX.

  It’s fascinating to me that Evangelicals/Protestants use Catholic arguments to debate Mormons and then flip flop in order to debate Catholics. You swear that the church that the gates of hell did not prevail against the church that Jesus Christ established but then when talking with Catholics you swear that it did and that Martin Luther (who is also a self proclaimed Prophet just like Joseph Smith) restored true Christianity. If you think about it, the LDS have their Joseph Smith and you have your Martin Luther or Calvin or Zwingli or Knox or Wycliff or Darby or Taze Russell or Young or Semple Mc Phearson or Gould White or Stone or Campbell or Chuck Smith or Rob Bell or Pat Robertson or Jimmy Swaggart or Joel Osteen or Harold Camping or Jim Baker or Benny Hinn or Creflo Dollar or TD Jakes or Al Sharpton or Jeremiah White or Paul White or Juanita Bynam or Tony Smith or one of the other 33,000 Protest-tants who believe that THEY have restored “true” Christianity. You are really no different than the LDS who you attack, you have your own Prophet (i.e. http://www.gotquestions.org_ who you believe has restored the truth. Whatever the case, if you are outside the Catholic church you believe that at some point the gates of hell DID prevail and someone who thinks like YOU restored the church, which is heresy. Jesus promised that the gates of hell would NEVER prevail and they will not. you are no different than those who you question…………..

• Pat Robertson Has Some Tough Advice for Cheated-On Women: Do You Agree With Him?

  May 18, 2013 at 12:33am

  In reply to Nabuquduriuzhur.

  If you are an Evangelical/Protestant this is your faith. Your husband “shouldn’t” cheat on you but if he does cheat on you a thousand times a day it has absolutely no impact at on his salvation and YOU are actually sinning by sitting in judgement of someone who already has eternal life. That is all that Pat Robertson is saying. Either you accept that your husband is saved by faith alone and no matter how many times he cheats on you it has no impact on his salvation and instead of feeling sorry for yourself and talking about HIS sins you should be rejoicing that he is “saved” despite the fact that he cheats on you.. Why would any Evangelical/Protestant ever mention a “saved” persons sins? Once they have been covered over by Jesus once for all sacrifice of what concern is it at all? Why are you concerned one bit about the behavior of a “saint” who has already been forgiven by Jesus for all past, present and future sins and who already has eternal life? If God accepts them with all of their sins why don’t you? Who are you to sit in judgement of a person who is already forgiven by Jesus and who already has eternal life? This is your faith, this is what you believe. According to Evangelical/Protestant doctrines no matter what a husband does once he repents and confesses Jesus as Lord he is going to heaven so why are all of you so upset at Pat Robertson for holding to your first principles and telling it like it is? Makes no sense……

• Pat Robertson Has Some Tough Advice for Cheated-On Women: Do You Agree With Him?

  May 17, 2013 at 11:38pm

  In reply to conservativemom99.

  I think what Pat is saying is why is this woman selfishly focusing on how her husbands sins affect HER if he is “saved” why not spend her time rejoicing that although he is unfaithful to HER he is faithful to JESUS? Why as an Evangelical/Protestant is she obsessing over how his sins affect HER if Jesus has already forgiven him for ALL of his sins past, present and future? I think what Pat is trying to say is if she is TRULY a Christian instead of sitting in judgement of her husband for his sin of infidelity she should love him and forgive him as Jesus has forgiven him. After all if she is judging him and refusing to forgive him (even if he continues to cheat on her) she is sitting in judgement of someone who God has already declared righteous. By not forgiving her husband (even if he continues to cheat) she is putting herself above God who (according to her own principles) has already forgiven her husband for any sins he will commit and there is no sin he could commit that make him lose his salvation. I think this is what Pat is trying to say. I don’t accept the man made of teaching of being saved by faith alone or once saved always saved but if this woman is an Evangelical/Protestant and she truly affirms these beliefs she needs to stop complaining and live the faith that she professes. I think that is what Pat is saying.

• Pat Robertson Has Some Tough Advice for Cheated-On Women: Do You Agree With Him?

  May 17, 2013 at 3:39pm

  In reply to crazyrightwingmom.

  If her husband is a born again Christian and is already “saved” what difference does it make that he has cheated on her? Yes it upsets her but shouldn’t she rejoice more in the fact that he is saved instead of focusing on the sins that he has comitted t(hat are already covered over by Jesus) Despite her husbands sinfulness and even if he continues to cheat shouldn’t she rejoice that he already has eternal life instead of obsessing over how his sins affect her? It seems like she is sitting in judgement of someone who God has already judged worthy of eternal life? Isn’t judging someone that God has alreayd declared worthy of eternal life a worse sin than his sin of adultery? If he is already saved he could commit adultery a thousand times a day and it wouldn’t matter to God (according to Evangelical/Protestant teaching) so based on Evangelical/Protestant teaching this wife is being selfish and she is sitting in judgement of someone who God has already declared rigtheous. In that regard Pat Robertson is absolutely correct, she is wrong and she is sinning by judging a saved person. Even if he continues to cheat she should instead love him and focus on her own sins and not his. If they are both already “saved” then neither one should discuss their sins outloud because it shows a lack of faith as if Gods declaring them righteous is not valid. Really hard to understand how Sola Fide and Once Saved Always Saved actually works in real life.

• ‘Blasphemy’: Prominent Faith Leader Calls Obama Out Over His ‘God Bless You’ During Planned Parenthood Speech

  May 17, 2013 at 3:24pm

  @girlnurse – What do you mean when you say that people will “reap what they sow” Are you saying that Obama although he is pro gay marriage, pro abortion, pro partial birth abortion and pro late term abortion will have less crowns in heaven? I am trying to wrap my head around the Evangelical/Protestant doctrine that God will reward those who are pro gay marriage and pro abortion with less crowns in heaven? Obama confesses Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior so according to Evangelicals/Protestants he is already saved and NOTHING he says or does can ever make him lose his salvation. So despite anything he says or does he is still going to be rewarded despite being pro abortion and pro gay marriage so why do Evangelicals/Protestants join together and rebuke him if he is already saved? Isn’t that judging someone who God has already judged to have eternal life? If God has already granted Obama eternal life why is not sinful for all of you to judge him AFTER God has already judged him? This is very confusiconflicted logic. If Almighty God has already judged Obama to have eternal life and nothing can ever change that is it pleasing to God that you are questioning His almighty judgement of someone who claims His Son Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior? According to your principles how is it not sinful to render judgment on someon who God has already declared to have eternal life? Isn’t THAT Blasphemy?