There is self perpetuating problem with having an honest discussion on race in this country. The left never wants to include facts, data, statistics or truth. It only wants to focus on feelings and and imagined wrong. It uses the tactic of labeling anyone that disagrees with them as racist or bigot. The right doesn’t want to address this issue for fear of being called those names.
I have news for you guys. Firstly, the term “racist” in common usage today is a bastardized term formulated in the late 50s for use in the civil rights agenda. I need to remind everyone here that civil rights is ALWAYS a precursor to socialism….ALWAYS….100% of the time. Secondly, everyone could be labeled with bigot when looking at the definition and the origins of the word.
The sadder truth is this woman probably doesn’t possess the mental acuity to grasp her own stupidity. Affirmative action has told a certain group of people that an 80 IQ is superior for decades.
When someone gratuitously gets called a racist, tell the person to prove it. Tell them that they are assuming god-like powers that they think they can see into your heart and mind and assume to tell YOU what you are, what you believe. The accuser must be able to prove it or they should be called on it, and then you can identify what they just called you, as verbal abuse.
You are correct, Civil Rights always leads to Socialism.......and Socialism is the first and necessary step to Communism.
The real problem as I see it is that the libs infiltrated our education system about 80 years ago and the result is .....today, there are a growing number of Americans who actually want Socialism and Communism for America. The libs have changed the attitudes of Americans by their take-over of the education system.....and Socialism and Communism are no longer something to fight and be vigilant against,......rather they are to be embraced and become a way of life here in the once greatest nation the world had ever known.
That is the real problem.....and the only way to solve this problem is with a 2nd Civil War where it is countryman against countryman.....with the blood of Liberals and Conservatives flowing in our streets. There is no other way.....the divide between the two is too great.....there is no "coming together". (And the two ideologies continue to get further and further apart every day.)
 July 2, 2015 at 12:19am
I don’t agree with the Supreme Court’s ruling mainly because like Roe V Wade, it is just bad law. The Justices know that already. If they don’t then they are either stupid or senile and should be removed in either case.
No one will do anything about this one way or the other. Congress has gotten off Scott free because the bench did the legislating for them. My personal opinion is this newly imagined right will have far reaching consequences way beyond freedom of speech or religion.
I mean it is an imagined “right”. It doesn’t exist. Those august judges snatched it out of thin air. That begs the query. What else can they snatch out of thin air? See time and chance come to all men. The Bible is clear on this. So the next big court battle maybe something very different. It might not be what a liberal court would want.
True the major rulings in the past few decades seem to ALWAYS be in favor of liberal socialist tenants. That may not always be the case. The pendulum doesn’t swing to one extreme that it doesn’t swing to the other.
All that being said, I wonder why this guy as a Christian chooses now to be so outspoken about his religious beliefs on sexual morality. I’m sure he’s served quite a few whores in his time. Would he put up a sign saying that no whores were welcomed in his store? Granted, nowadays he would be down considerably on clientele if he would indeed post such a sign seeing the moral depravity of most all women these days. Sin is sin…period.
" I’m sure he’s served quite a few whores in his time." Seems like you're applying your own personal experience there. I actually doubt it, knowing a number of Tennessee evangelicals which this guy probably is.
 June 30, 2015 at 1:25pm
One has to remember that the sub-Saharan indigenous tribesmen were preliterate stone age savages when brought to these shores a few centuries ago. Depending on how one views the world, whether through the lens of evolutionism or Christianity, that would separate the “races” by thousands of years. The number of those thousands depends on the timeline. In evolutionism it would be tens of thousands of years. In Christianity it would be a few thousand.
Persons in the times of the mid 1800s would have viewed the sub-Saharan indigenous tribesmen as inferior for good reason. Since all races have been slaves to or at least subjugated by a superior group, the concept of human bondage was common.
Many who came to this country originally were indentured servants which is a euphemism for slave. These individuals were mostly white. It was common to abduct children, boys especially and sell them into servitude. Slavery was common in the Ottoman Empire up to WW1.
There is more slavery on the continent of Africa today, in real time, than ever was during the European slave trade. That is happening today folks, not 150 years ago.
The Bible says in the eschaton there will be slavery. I personally believe us to be in that time period.
One also has to remember that civil rights is always a precursor to socialism…always. Karl Marx wrote the Communist Manifesto in 1848, some 12 years prior to the launch of the American Civil War. Socialism only works with a strong centralized government.
 June 30, 2015 at 10:22am
I don’t think the Southern secession was anywhere near the Nazi regime. I do take exception to that comparison. I had no feelings about Mike Rowe no way or the other but I might have to change my mind about that.
Mr. Rowe obviously only knows revisionist history about the Civil War. The Civil war had NOTHING to do with any overt concern for slaves as human beings. If it had been then slavery wouldn’t have been allowed to continue for years after the Emancipation Proclamation.
If it was a great holy endeavor about the quality of life for humans then there wouldn’t have been the mass deaths of children in northern factories for decades. The murderous child labor practices in the north weren’t eradicated until well into the 1920s. So spare me the concept of compassion for life.
If there is to be a comparison to the Nazis it would have to be on the northern side and not the south. The Civil War was about resolving the question of the limits of the 10th Amendment and assuring that ultimate governmental authority would be centralized in Washington among a few, a new political class, and not in the hands of the states, their legislatures or the people.
Slavery was a convenient means to an end, nothing more. The abolitionist movement wasn’t some noble cause. It was the first step in community organizing.
We also have to consider that the expansion of the slave trade had everything to do with Charles Darwin, his writings and feelings about sub-Saharan tribal Africans.
“Our new government is founded upon exactly the opposite idea; its foundations are laid, its corner- stone rests, upon the great truth that the negr0 is not equal to the white man; that slavery subordination to the superior race is his natural and normal condition. This, our new government, is the first, in the history of the world, based upon this great physical, philosophical, and moral truth.”
-Confederate States of America Vice President Alexander Stephens, 1861
Y’all tried to leave The United States to form your own country based on the “moral truth" that the negr0 is not equal to the white man, and his natural position is slavery to the dominant race.
Its a mixed bag. http://www.civilwar.org/education/history/primarysources/declarationofcauses.html
 June 30, 2015 at 10:03am
That is the main objective here. The current administration clearly stated back in 2008 that its intention was to completely change everything about this country, including the flag. Those in the White House detest this country. They are not misguided or ideological. They are wicked evil people.
As a Christian, I believe that all power of whatever sort comes from God. The Bible is pretty clear on that point. God does raise up wicked godless leaders to chastise a country that has gone astray.
The Mayflower Compact was a covenant with God. God does not take covenants lightly. The country has broken this covenant. God being a just God will chastise those for which He cares. The punishment is often extremely harsh.
We are seeing our country dismantled by halfwit miscreants. It is frustrating. I mean its bad enough what is being done but to know those doing it were elected and have the mental acuity of a bag of dirt is disheartening.
One thing I know is that God is in control and not the halfwit miscreants. I also know what God does with the rod of correction He uses to chastise a nation. It isn’t pretty.(Exodus 14: 23-31, Daniel 4)
I pray daily that God’s wrath will last for only a moment knowing His mercy endures for eternity. (Psalm30)
 June 30, 2015 at 1:20am
This is the tactic. Get people comfortable with defacing and replacing the Confederate Flag. After all that was a while back and it does mean hatred to some. No big deal right? After all it’s a bunch of country hicks from the south. No one cares.
Then go after the American Flag. That is where this is leading. It doesn’t take a whole lot to figure that out.
 June 30, 2015 at 1:17am
My stuff is often taken down. The truth lives here…my hind leg.
 June 29, 2015 at 1:48pm
Mr. Osteen is certainly not his father. I believed his father to be anointed by God for his ministry. He was a Godly man with the true message of Christ. He did not preach the watered down prosperity feel good gospel his son currently spreads.
I have always had a problem with these big churches and the way they keep the “ministry” in the family. That is not Biblical. It causes all sorts of problems. They act like a church is a family business. In actuality a church government is not Biblical. It is an allowance of God not a command, an oracle or ordination. There is a HUGE different.
Since church governments are a construct of man, what is always present with a government of men. Confusion, abuse and corruption invariably follow any man made government. It is sad but true. That is why so many good pastors or ministers or evangelists lose their calling and maybe even their souls.
All that being said, I don’t care much for Mr. Osteen and his version of Christianity. I cannot know his heart. I cannot judge him. Jesus however did tell us to be observant and vigilant concerning those with which we associate especially when it comes to worship.
I personally wouldn’t attend anything in which he was a participant. I wouldn’t attend a worship service in a satanic cult or witch’s coven either even if it was to heckle those attending.
I cannot support what he says as a follower of Christ. I can however support his freedom of speech in this country. The two are vastly different.
 June 29, 2015 at 10:53am
This is just the beginning. The current administration wants things like this to happen. They want social unrest. I mean if you elect as president a guy whose only qualification is community organizing, i.e. rabble rousing, then you have to expect this type thing.
If you are a Christian, brace yourself for oppression and discrimination to a very profound degree.
 June 29, 2015 at 10:48am
You will be called a homophobe if you make statements like this in the future. Just like with other “protected” groups, like blacks, you cannot use actual facts and statistical data. That is bigoted and prejudicial.
I work around a lot of gay men. Here is an aside. Has anyone here heard of a bug hunter or a stealth pozzer? Look it up you’ll be amazed. I know I was when I first heard the terms and that was years ago. My point is that many of these people are so far gone and depraved, not to mention self hating, that they do this to their own kind.
So yes you are correct. There is a certain segment of the LGBTQ community that wants to hurt anyone and everyone by whatever means possible. I have no idea how large this subset of people is but it doesn’t matter.
 June 28, 2015 at 9:36am
You are quite right. The Roman Empire was the quintessential model of how pluralism destroys any given society. While Rome was the paragon of how pluralism can go terribly wrong, all societies that have allowed this social cancer have suffered the same fate. As will we.
I fear for the younger generation. They are the ones that will have to deal with what is coming down the pike. If God tarries and the US is around, and still intact, the children born today will have a very different “growing up” experience.
 June 28, 2015 at 12:12am
There is no data supporting any claim that “diversity” improves anything.
In actuality there would probably be more data to support the exact opposite. I cannot cite any study done because none will ever be done because studies like this that have been done always yield unsatisfactory results. That is if the study “tries” to be unbiased and objective.
Actually there was quite the study done. The fall of the Roman Empire is a case study in diversity.
@VE - And that did not end well
 June 28, 2015 at 12:08am
Ok so now common sense is considered racism.
This chart ignores facts. It is that simple. There will never be an honest discussion on race because one cannot have said discussion devoid of facts and data. That is what liberals have been doing for decades. They want a tilted discussion because the truth is too hard to face.
June 27, 2015 at 5:33pm
I take exception to your coining the name of one of my favorite bands as you handle.
 June 27, 2015 at 10:46am
People that are easily offended are usually persons with no worth, self or otherwise.
That being said, maybe all this talk of the Confederate Flag will spark a real discussion of the American Civil War and why it was really fought. Here’s a hint. It had nothing to do with slavery. The slave issue was just a convenient issue to advance the true agenda. Those that used it 150 years ago, to move the socialist ball forward are still using the same group of people and the same mantra.
Woodrow Wilson wasn’t the first overtly socialist president this country has had. Here is a bit of history for the public school educated masses. Karl Marx started writing his ideas about government and economics in the mid 1800s. The Communist Manifesto was written in 1848. Again for the low information, i.e. low IQ guys, educated in public schools, 1848 comes BEFORE 1861.
It took roughly two months to sail from Europe to the American continent. Again for the unfortunates, two months is less than 13 years. So the codified concept of socialism was alive and well BEFORE the American Civil War.
Now taking that FACT and juxtapose it with the actions used today to advance socialism. One can get a clear picture of the truth. Civil rights is ALWAYS the precursor to socialism…ALWAYS.
The Supreme Court ruling yesterday just echoed what Abraham Lincoln did years ago. It dissolved states rights on another issue.
Again, for the low IQ guys, socialism has to have a top heavy centralized government.
Spin… While I agree that there were reasons other than slavery that led to the Civil War… some of them still centered on slavery. Economically, the Southern States wanted to be able to expand slavery westward as the country grew. The Republicans (yes… the REPUBLICANS) in Congress did NOT want that to happen.The South wanted State Law to overrule Federal Law so that they could override any laws regarding slavery. The Abolition Movement was growing and the Southern States saw that as a threat to their economy (remember, while the North Industrialized, the South remained mainly dependent on cotton crops, and that depended on cheap labor – slavery). And when Abraham Lincoln was elected, he won the election without a single Southern Electoral Vote… the South had lost influence. That led to the secession of the Southern States and THAT led to the Civil War.
The left proudly hail Lincoln as the great emancipator, but the truth is Abe didn't give rat's behind about the slave's condition. The South's economy was agricultural based,, mainly cotton exports to Europe, and he believed if the slaves were free they would abandon the cotton fields thus making it harder for the South to wage war.It was a pure military motivation.
June 26, 2015 at 3:08pm
I work almost exclusively with male models. Most of the guys are young, late teens to mid 20s. They are laughing about this. They say that now two guys whether straight or gay can get married and get all the benefits reserved for married people. It is weird I know but younger guys have a totally different outlook on this sort of thing.
The sanctity of marriage is over. It is now going to be a free for all. Personally, being single, I’m ok with all the perks for being married dissolving. I mean that is what will happen eventually. I mean there will have to be some give sometime. Businesses and the government aren’t going to loose money on this deal.
A man and a woman could get married just for the benefits as well. Many probably have.
 June 26, 2015 at 2:53pm
Dude you need to go back and crawl under your bridge.
[-1] June 26, 2015 at 12:35pm
Overturning child rape laws and pedophilia laws are the next step of the gay agenda. Gays need your kids. People are not born gay. Spare me the ranting about research. There is NO credible research on the issue. There are many paths to becoming gay but all have the same result, miserable people.
Kennedy has probably already written his decision for legalizing sex with children by saying to prevent children from experiencing sex is discriminatory.
Marriage is a civil contract. That is true. If the civil government changes the ages of majority or dispenses with them altogether then there will be no barrier to sexual intercourse between any age group.
Let’s be frank here. If you think a guy putting his tongue in another guy’s anus is normal and natural and beautiful, your not going to have any problem with a guy having sex with a five year old.
So much to say.. but honestly just get some help, you need it.
 June 26, 2015 at 12:24pm
Divorce has been around for millennia. Marriage between two persons of the same gender is a new concept.
That being said, look at how many lives have been destroyed by divorce. Many more will be destroyed by this as well. When one goes outside the will of God there is nothing but destruction, misery and death.
 June 26, 2015 at 12:05pm
I am sadden by the gross miscarriage of justice in this decision. These fools have brought down on this country a judgement from God like no one has ever seen. God will judge the church as well for being so silent on the issues of sexual immorality. The church has allowed whoredom in its midst for centuries. This is just a natural progression of sin.
Sin ALWAYS takes you further than you want to go. It keeps you longer than you want to stay . It costs you more than you have to pay. I wonder if all the millions of people calling themselves Christians that have justified divorce, premarital sex and having children out of wedlock, not to mention abortion are ok with gays being in their churches demanding to be married at their alter. What about their kids having gay Sunday school teachers.
I know a lot of gay men. Most are rather docile and pretty nice guys. That being said, their “culture” is very different from mainstream culture. My personal experience has been that many, if not most, gay men are the most misogynistic, racist, segregationist, ageist, intolerant people anyone can know. I don’t know about lesbians because I don’t know any well enough to comment on that.
Christians brace yourself for persecution like there has never been on these shores.