American Soldier (Separated) – I’m glad you were paying attention… skimmed right over that.
June 8, 2013 at 4:09pm
If this story is true–truly tragic and the kid will need prayers for his future and the guilt that will hit him at some point. Guns left out and unsupervised in a room is a recipe for disaster.
But the skeptic in me wants to know…
Someone check to see if he was part of Seal Team 6 or anything connected to the Usama Bin Laden raid. I’ve thought from the beginning that higher ups could consider them a liability and slowly remove them with such “accidents”
Has anyone done a check on the status of that team?
The title clearly shows him being Army Special Forces, so yes, it's safe to assume hes not moonlighting as a Navy SEAL on ST6. And I thought I was paranoid....
Yeah. I'm not looking it up. But, look at the helicopter crash over in Afghani where a bunch of Team 6 group was killed , at. The last minute the afghani members going on the mission were replaced with " others". 38 killed
Here it is. More than 18 months ago and the families can't get an answer as to who were the " others " were that were put in board the chopper. As well, there's multiple article els about it , but they also gave this flight of elite members of the military some old out dated " disposable " chopper to use when other state of the art ones were available.
These are two different branches of the military. Special Forces is Army and the SEALS are Navy. These days, especially with the Obama Spying scandal, I wouldn't want to be the one looking into SEAL operations. You go first. LOL!
ABCDEFG1, Wouldn't really call it old and outdated. I believe that it was a CH47D. But, it was the wrong type of helicopter for such a mission.
I noticed the same Sarge , but if he is curious about Seal Team 6 members that are experiencing mysterious demises , he should check out this mystery. The families are SUING to find out who the heck these other people were that were put on the old jalopy chopper and WHY. Dead men tell no tales.
RJJ. Thank you for the condolences , he was a vary good kid. :((. As for the chopper, yes it was a CH47 not sure about the D portion. I looked up a few articles , yes very slow low flying exposed aircraft , but they were hauling 38 people. The article I read about the slow and old outdated may very well have been one about the families trying to find out info. So it might have been a quite from them , or just one of those pesky "conspiracy theories " that as if late aren't to theoretical anyone's concerning various items. I'd like to think we give our troops the best of everything , they CERTAINLY deserve it for the job that they have signed up to do FOR US. It is very strange though , 22 Seal Team 6 members dead at once, and the families can't get answers 1 1/2 years later as to who the heck the suddenly exchanged Afghani Commandos were, and why.
I was thinking the same thing as soon as I read Special Forces
ABCDEFG1, From what I have read about them lately, I don't think there has been another upgrade program for the Chinooks to go beyond the Delta model. When I was stationed in Schwabisch Hall, Germany, that was an Army Air Field, the BN from the 111th Aviation BDE had a good number of them there. Along with Blackhawks and a number of OH58s. The major upgrade program for these birds was begun in the mid '80s and I believe continued into the '90s until they were all upgraded. Its not they are worn out, this was the wrong bird to transport the SEALS. They should have gone into that area in several high performance helos that are far more maneuvarable. I've flown in the several times, but would prefer the Blackhawk or even the old Huey. The Chinook is more of a flying cargo truck or bus. It does it's job well, but as I already said, It was the wrong bird for that mission. In my humble opinion. As far as the Army National Guard crew, these guys are professionals, and likely fly similar aircraft in their regular jobs. I am not a conspiracy theorist, but I can see where there could very likely have been some underhanded actions taken here too.
RJJ. I GUARANTEE you know more about it and the craft than myself. Never was in the military , went in and took all the testing , ASFAB ???? I think part was called , said I could do just about what ever I would want on Nuke subs , as soon as I got my braces off. Lol. While waiting for that a girl got involved and suddenly , HMMM? Underwater with a bunch of Navy guys or here with an exceptional beautiful girl :))). You know the outcome. Lol. I did get to fly a Jet Ranger , just holding the stick out over the ocean in West Africa at age 12 in Nigeria while flying out to one of the drill rigs , and fly up front in a Sikorsky( sp)S55 I think it was called , big thing , front nose opened up. All Mobil oils birds Oh yeah and takeoff to landing in a Boeing 737 in Cameroon , Cameroon Airlines. Dads secretary knew the French pilot. Last but not least start to finish on a DC3 up front with the pilot in Nigeria as well , with the damn window open by the pilot. I swear he had to be deaf , damn it was loud. It hauled the people from Lagos down to the oil field compound down on the coast. Lagos is on the coast as well. Fun times when I was young :)).
RJJ. As a side not , you might appreciate the story. It was 1973, all of Mobil oils chopper pilots were Ex Nam vets and no disrespect , but they were INSANE !!! Maybe half truth stories , talking bout picking up wounded with the enemy rushing in and tilting the rotors to take off heads and so forth. BUT I KNOW TBIS IS TRUTH. I WAS THERE. 12 miles out on the closest oil rig , IDAHO it was called , not the state , named after something local. Anyways the hell platform was 90-100 ft up on top ( DUH ) of the rig. Sikorsky S55 and they ALWAYS had them overloaded , up front with the pilot just him and myself. HOT weather. The birds had big inflatable pontoons on the landing runners , I guess to avoid damaging shit. He was trying to get us airborne with too much weight and thin hot air. He said VERBATIM ( it's in my head ) " I CAN'T GET ENOUGH LIFT ,TOO F...ING HEAVY , F...ING AIR TOO THIN AND F...ING HOT , WE'RE GOING TO DO IT THIS WAY ,HOLD THE FU.....K ON MIKE ,HERE WE FU....ING GO!!!!" He proceeded to BOUNCE the chopper across the deck up down higher and higher each attempt , 4-5 times and then OFF THE EDGE DOWN TOWRDS THE OCEAN 90-100 ft BELOW AND GOT AIRSPEED ON THE WAY DOWN !!!! I THOUGHT WE WERE DEAD FOR SURE !!!!! He said " I FIGURED that would work " and we flew back to the oil terminal. I'LL NEVER FORGET IT. it was INSANE.
American Soldier (Separated) - I'm glad you were paying attention... skimmed right over that.
November 15, 2012 at 7:06pm
unfortunately, most of this vid. strikes me as “You didn’t build that”