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tmarends

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  • June 20, 2013 at 5:46pm

    These comments are interesting. I wonder how many people who are so against homosexuals are condemned by Christ’s own words by being remarried after a divorce for a reason other than death, abandonment, or infidelity?? (By the way, the person who abandons his/her spouse, or the one who was unfaithful, can not, Biblically, remarry.) Or how many have friends and/or family members in a sinful, according to the Bible, remarriage?? Do you also, with the same vim and vigor, also rebuke those sinful remarriages?? Both publicly and in their face?? Somehow I seriously doubt that you do.

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  • January 12, 2013 at 6:28pm

    Because of what? You’re quoting a verse that starts with “Because of this”… so I want to know because of what?? What happened PRIOR to those words that caused what happened AFTER?? Do you even know??

  • January 12, 2013 at 12:21pm

    The problem with you statement is that abomination and sin are not interchangeable terms. Abomination, as used in the Bible, is a cultural taboo. For example, according to the book of Exodus, it was an abomination to the Egyptians if they were to share a meal with the Hebrews. However, it was NOT an abomination to the Hebrews. Every place abomination appears in the Bible it is a cultural thing, not a sin.

  • January 12, 2013 at 12:18pm

    Alan Chambers, the CEO of Exodus Intl, said last year that 99% of homosexuals will not see a change in their orientation.

    In Romans 1, Paul writes about idol worshipers who engaged in same-gender sexual relations as part of the worship. This was common in both Greece and Rome in the worship to false idols… it was also common to the Egyptians and Canaanites during Moses’ time.

  • January 12, 2013 at 12:10pm

    What your Bible translates as “those who practice homosexuality” is in the original Greek “Arsenokoitai”. “Arsenokoitai” is only found 2 places in the Bible, and in both places is in a list, so there is no context as to what the word truly means. “Arsenokoitai” is made up of two parts: “arsen” means “man”; “koitai” means “beds.” Literally it could be translated as male beds, or man- bedders. This particular word is not used anywhere in Greek Literature until some 200 years after Paul when it apparently means “pederast”, a corrupter of boys, and again in the sixth century (another 400 years) when it is used for husbands practicing anal intercourse with their wives. These two interpretations of the word come from the context of which it is placed… something we cannot do in 1 Corinthians. If Paul had wanted to use homosexuals or homosexuality in these lists he would have used one of the common Greek words for male/male sexual behaviour, like “paiderasste.”

    When Martin Luther translated this verse into German (1500s) he used the second century definition, and used what we would call “pedophiles” today. Pedophiles are not necessarily homosexual. Recent studies show that the majority of pedophiles, some 90%, are heterosexual.

    Taking this history into account, there is no justification to translate “Arsenokoitai” as “homosexuals” or anything to do with homosexuality.

  • January 12, 2013 at 12:05pm

    Just where does God say it’s a sin? In the 10 commandments given to Moses? No… it’s not there. Oh, Leviticus… No, that was written for Hebrew priests, from the tribe of Levi, and not for the entire Hebrew population — which was given in Deuteronomy.

    So in the NT, we have Paul’s writings… nothing directly from God or Jesus. And in Romans 1 Paul writes about those nasty idol worshipers who engage in same-gender sexual relations… but then calls out the Jewish readers in chapter 2 with a rebuke for judging the Gentiles of Rome.

    Which leaves 1 Corinthians & 1 Timothy. However, the word Paul uses in these verses seems to come from the Greek translation of Leviticus — which was written for Hebrew priests from the tribe of Levi… So, where does that leave us? Not one place in the entire Bible where God calls it a sin. Hmmm

  • January 12, 2013 at 11:56am

    The problem in your verses start with “Wherefore”… which indicates that what follows is based on what proceeded. So, what proceeds these verses you quote?

    Romans 1: 21-23

    21 For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened.

    22 Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools

    23 and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like a mortal human being and birds and animals and reptiles.

    So, the people being talked about in the verses you quote were worshiping idols to false gods. This is the CONTEXT of the entire passage.

  • January 12, 2013 at 11:50am

    So what happened prior to this that God allowed this to happen. The verse you quote starts with “Therefore”, which implies that what happened in previous verses led to the outcome in the following verses. So, what happened??

    Romans 1:21-23

    21 For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22 Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools 23 and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like a mortal human being and birds and animals and reptiles.

    So, according to the Bible, they were worshiping idols — statues made to represent false gods. It’s amazing how the whole thing changes when you read the full context. Unless, of course, you mean to call every gay person on the planet an idolater…

  • January 12, 2013 at 11:34am

    Sounds like the Pharisees of Jesus’ time… so busy saying “at least I’m not a sinner like THAT person”… all the while ignoring their own sins.

    Christ gave us two commands: Love God with all your heart, soul, and mind
    & Love your neighbor as yourself.

    Many people who claim to “love” homosexuals, just not their “sin”, would be appalled if they were treated the way they themselves treat homosexuals out of “love”.

  • January 12, 2013 at 11:23am

    Abomination is a cultural taboo. Every place it is used in the Bible is cultural. For example: It was an abomination (cultural taboo) to the Egyptians if they were to share a meal with the Hebrews — this is in Exodus. Notice, it wasn’t an abomination for the Hebrews, just the Egyptians.

    When people spout out “abomination” like it’s the worst sin ever, just shows their ignorance of the Bible.

  • December 6, 2012 at 1:09am

    @tootsie roll — You do realize that the verses you cited were written by Paul, and not Jesus… in fact, they aren’t evey quoting Jesus, like the Gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John do.

    It is constantly apparent that most of the Christians here have not followed Glenn Beck’s advice of going to the original source… and constantly rely on translations, often faulty. When reading the Bible in Hebrew and Greek you learn so much more.

  • October 22, 2012 at 2:00pm

    As a gay man, I disagree with this lawsuit. This is private property, which they allow to be used for weddings. I feel they are perfectly correct in deciding who they allow to use their farm. If this was a public venue, it would be a different matter…. say a gazebo owned by the city next to a public lake… if the couple was refused that, then they would have a case, in my opinion. Lawsuits like this one, make the rest of us look bad.

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  • October 19, 2012 at 2:13pm

    Everyone knows someone who is divorced and remarried from somewhere. They need the Truth of what the Bible says, then they can take it up with God. You do not owe your friend hell. If you know the Truth and do not tell him/her and show them in the Bible where it speaks of it as an abomination, then you do not love your friend as you should (in a Godly way.) As a Christian and participating in fellowship with people in second (or more) marriages, is not a wise thing to do, as they are encouraged in their sin. They are people who are on their way to hell, for many are deceived and have turned the Truth into a lie. Now your part is to fellowship with those who honor God and not slander or put others down who you know are remarried after divorce. Just be kind, but not participating in their lifestyles and encouraging this. Let them know in the right way and someday they may thank you.

    And YES… Jesus actually did talk about divorce.

  • October 5, 2012 at 3:04pm

    One thing thiat’s missing from this story is the fact that this young man joined the Scouts BEFORE he knew he was gay. He only came out a little while ago. What many people fail to realize is that sexual orientation does not display until puberty. Remember when you were 5 or 6 and girls/boys were icky? Did that mean you were gay? No — that’s normal for that age. You didn’t start to notice the opposite gender until you hit puberty. And, for most gay teens, when puberty hits, you notice that where your attractions lay do not match those of your friends, so you keep it quiet to “fit in”. This young man, in order to uphold the BSA ideals decided he could no longer hide a part of who God made him to be just to “fit in”, despite years of BSA activities. Many of you seem to think that he “decided” to be gay and just throw away all that hard work he had done. Since the scoutmaster knew he was gay PRIOR to him even starting that final project, he should be awarded the honor for completing the requirements.

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  • October 1, 2012 at 3:48pm

    @Eastinfection
    People like Michaal Brown or “Dr” Nicolosi (of NARTH) have never claimed to have ever been gay or even lived a “gay lifestyle”, but people seem to listen to them about this type of therapy. Why? They honestly have no credibility as they haven’t been through it. NARTH has even suggested that porn be used to “cure” people. Really.

  • October 1, 2012 at 3:41pm

    @Hanner

    I have been through an exorcism to “rid” myself of “homosexual demons”… I was strapped to a table. Prayed over, had the Bible laid on me. Given electro-schock treatments, Waterboarded. It doesn’t work. I’m still gay. It was after I accepted that this is how God wanted me, that I was truly able to see His love in my life. FIghting against the way God created me caused me nothing but heartache. Thank God He created me as a gay man!! His blessings on my life have only been apparent since I accepted myself as a gay child of God. I have no idea what you “witnessed”, but perhaps it was that 0.01% that can change their orientation (according to Alan Chambers, CEO of Exodus). For the rest of us, this therapy is dangerous.

  • August 14, 2012 at 2:01pm

    Disney makes it very clear in their orientation… You are NOT just an employee… you are an actor. You are playing a part. You wear a costume, not a uniform. Each role has a specific look to enhance the experience of the guest. This is what she agreed to when she took the position. She has no case.

  • August 8, 2012 at 12:48pm

    @Falconer

    How about Romans 2? Is that out of context too? A lot of people use Romans 1 to condemn homosexuality, but Romans 2 starts with a rebuke of those who judge the people Paul was talking about in Romans 1 — saying they are guilty of the same thing!!

  • August 3, 2012 at 3:12pm

    WEBWITHDEB

    No… but he didn’t condemn the gay relationship that was sexual either. Praising a gay man in a known sexual relationship with another man speaks volumns to me.

  • August 2, 2012 at 1:23pm

    Paul — the problem is Cathy has donated money to organizations that actually promote harm to gay people… in one known case, actively promoting the murder of gay people.

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