This is actually to protect the children. Children of people that are currently openly antagonistic toward the church are frequently used as pawns in their parents’ war on the church. By eliminating that as a possibility, children are still allowed to be baptized – when they are legally able to decide for themselves. The church is affirming that the church does not trump parental rights, and they respect the parents who are currently apostate to not attempt to circumvent the parents to teach their children. No one is saying that they won’t be given blessings or that they can’t – but while the parents are in that state it is better for the children.
Right, that's what I was trying to say, but you said it better.
"This is actually to protect the children."
(1) Missionaries not teaching & baptizing Muslims in Muslim-controlled nations (if the investigator accepts the Truth, then he could be killed).
(2) Those who are disfellowshipped and not permitted to take the sacrament (unworthily partaking of the sacrament being a big time sin)
 November 6, 2015 at 12:54pm
You don’t get to construe what you want here, and your summary of the wording is incorrect. I guess you must have a bone to pick with the LDS church, but I think it’s skewed your reading of the policies.
 November 6, 2015 at 12:48pm
That isn’t the idea; this is not punishment, but it is necessary. Children of people in apostasy can and have been used as pawns by their parents. It is necessary for the well-being of the children to take away that possibility. However, the church affirms that parental rights are still in force, and will not allow children to circumvent that. When the child is of legal age, they may opt for themselves.
 July 9, 2015 at 8:27am
So… she’s buying donuts. But really mad about obesity and the food that EVERYONE ELSE IS EATING apparently – so she needs to pass on some of her enzymes. If she wasn’t pretty I would think she was Michelle Obama.
 September 24, 2014 at 12:01pm
Can’t get a Darwin unless they take themselves out of the gene pool. And she’s clearly propagating.
August 20, 2013 at 1:43pm
@RabidPatriot I don’t know if her face still hurts…. but it’s killing me!
April 26, 2013 at 9:49pm
No, I totally disagree. In fact, I couldn’t disagree more. Free markets are what make people earn a decent wage. Unions do not do that – they choke companies trying to compete. If you have competition in the market, there is no need for a union. If you put unions in, they just kill companies.
Give people the chance to start businesses and grow, and the wages will increase.
April 8, 2013 at 7:11pm
Well said, Saranda. Ares, it is cultural. Wearing a suit is cultural. You’re dead wrong and if this is your unequivocal, unbending position on something so irrelevant as the way someone dresses… you have a problem. If I expect you to wear a suit before I listen to you, then I have a problem. The problem is the misunderstanding on both sides of the race issue – and you can’t be part of the solution by being intolerant of the way people look based on their style of dress. Otherwise you may as well forever mark those you don’t agree with off as lost. There are a lot of good people in that group that might just agree with you, given the chance, a little humility, staunch dedication to moral principles, and willingness to understand and tolerate someone that isn’t quite as enlightened as you are.
March 1, 2013 at 4:39am
That is NOT what he said. The point he was trying to make is that LOCAL governments have the right to make decisions for their jurisdiction. And you must hear the rest of it; if you live in a very populated area and there is a likelihood of that gun falling into the hands of a crazy person.
Don’t be too quick to judge. A real constitutionalist recognizes the right of a local – even a state – government to make such rules. For example, a state may establish a state religion; the federal government may not. The more local the government, the more leeway it has because those in power and those who are governed become closer to being one and the same. It’s only when you become more of a statistic and less of an individual that those same allowances become worrisome.
December 26, 2012 at 2:51pm
It never ceases to amaze me that those who claim to be the most tolerant can yet be the most arrogant and insulting. You pretend to having knowledge that the rest of “us simpletons” can’t seem to grasp. We are clearly not your intellectual equal.
Since that is the case, you might use your amazing intellect to investigate the lobbying efforts that Planned Parenthood has exerted in order to legalize abortion across the board, and I might add, set themselves up to receive federal money for it. Right you said that you can’t currently use federal money for abortions, but Planned Parenthood would like that changed. Perhaps you should pay attention to the efforts of those you defend before you spout off. The point is that we don’t like the lobbying efforts of Planned Parenthood. As far as the “rest of the services” that Planned Parenthood provides on Taxpayer expense, fine – but they have used their power and the apparent saintly character of their organization to dupe the brilliant, such as yourself, into thinking that’s all they care about.
As far as any of us on _this_ side not caring about the poor… maybe you should take a look at charitable giving. Liberals always claim the high road, but they take care of the poor with _other_ people’s money, not their own. And Jesus didn’t _hate_ the government, but he didn’t think people should turn to it for their every need. Jesus also didn’t hate the rich, as you fools would like us to believe. Just the love
October 2, 2012 at 9:48am
EXACTLY. You nailed it,
September 25, 2012 at 4:28pm
Personally, I hope that the level of commentary among conservatives would be a little higher than this. Innocent until proven guilty. And in my eyes, from what I’ve seen, there’s a reasonable doubt. Let God handle the judgement.
I think the lyrics of this song are commendable.
September 13, 2012 at 6:03pm
I don’t have a spare couch…. does an empty chair count?
Any of the 1909 Lincoln pennies that have been on Mars is probably worth a bit more. I’d collect them.
February 13, 2012 at 1:52pm
Milk…. out nose… thanks, CanteenBoy.
December 22, 2011 at 3:48pm
A vertebrae, part of her spine.
December 19, 2011 at 7:51pm
Yep, your memory is failing you. McCain was not neck and neck with Obama. Palin breathed life into a “nearly-dead” campaign. I was there, I remember well.
December 19, 2011 at 7:49pm
@ Fly on the wall
So what? What’s your point with that? Do you realize what happened to Palin – not to mention her family? How she was lampooned? How even some who think they’re conservative bailed on her because the liberals made fun of her?
The liberals gave her power. They revealed what they fear the most.
I don’t blame her for trying to do what she can, and I don’t blame her for making money off of it. She’s not an elected official anymore, and she’s free to try to persuade her case in any way she can. She gets money because people believe in her. Market drives the price…. I’d hope you know that. There’s nothing wrong with her. I don’t have a problem with Clinton doing it either, or Obama, for that matter (after he’s out of office). The market drives the price.
That isn’t politics. She’s not an elected official at the moment. She doesn’t rail against capitalism, she rails against votes being bought and sold by lobbyists. Government officials (not private sector) taking bribes for and against votes – THAT is criminal. And commonplace.
And she stands against it. I, for one, encourage her run and pray for our country continually, that whether it be Palin, Bachmann, or whomever – that they be decent, honorable, principled and dedicated to liberty.
December 19, 2011 at 7:40pm
No offense to you either… but that seems like a very unprincipled reply. Are you afraid of the liberals and their media machine? I won’t base my vote on what the liberals lampoon. In truth, they reveal by doing so what they fear the most.
At the end of the movie, the good guys win. Have faith, vote for the best. In the end, we win.
December 19, 2011 at 7:37pm
Had your koolaid? Drink up. What are you afraid of? Would you rather have Biden?