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tradcatholicgirl

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  • May 25, 2015 at 7:08pm

    Lindy,

    Your articulate post is very appreciated.

    Christ came for the sinners. Complete forgiveness and redemption is possible and attainable.

  • [-1] May 25, 2015 at 7:03pm

    Hi Spanky,

    I am a Christian and I am not seething.
    Christ came for sinners!
    Just because someone is Christian does not preclude them from sin or dysfunction.
    But it does give them the tools to heal and forgive or to change their ways.

  • [2] May 25, 2015 at 6:59pm

    Spanky,

    Maybe the girls do not want their privacy so invaded? That letting the “sunshine” in is not helpful in their healing process at all?

    Privacy is very comfortable for most of us.

    And that complete invasion of said privacy by the whole world is usually far more than “uncomfortable.”

  • May 25, 2015 at 6:51pm

    89,

    My point exactly,

    The girls privacy has been so invaded. If there actually was more healing for them to do, this media circus and the pain their family is undergoing is NOT going to help them one bit.

    All the people ranting about the family being hypocrites and fakes and everything else are NOT really being the least supportive of these girls.

    And did anyone ever ask THEM if they wanted such vociferous “support?” My guess would be “absolutely not.”

  • [1] May 25, 2015 at 6:43pm

    Maggie,

    God Bless you for your compassion toward the people in this story.

    But with all due respect: Did it ever occur to you that the girls are horrified that people are speculating about what “kind of counseling” they were offered? That perhaps they are in agony over the fact that their privacy has been so invaded?

    Can it be possible that BECAUSE they trust their parents and love their siblings and their Savior, they really, truly have found forgiveness and are healthy today?

    As I have posted before, forgiveness is often much more important to the health and soul of the forgiver than the forgiven.

    I do realize that their father has opened them up to this speculation because they have lived the reality -TV lifestyle for so long.

    But why make this a case for vindictive, revengeful action against Josh, who himself was only a teen.

  • May 25, 2015 at 6:06pm

    Hi AnnaJo,

    I hope I have replied to all your points respectfully:

    1. I was not molested as a child. But I did (and still do) have very deep woundedness that required, and still requires, daily forgiveness.

    2. I will pray for you in your woundedness and am truly sorry that you experienced what you did. I have some who are close to me who experienced sexual and physical abuse. I am very familiar.

    3. I agree with you that this family needed a correction. Mr. Duggar should have taken his family off the air years ago, and let them live a normal life. This was something that can only be a blessing in disguise . . eventually, for all those kids.

    4.. I can only trust what the girls have stated about their experiences and their forgiveness . . and then choose to believe them. I only know for sure that it is none of our business.

    5. If you just look at this one site, The Blaze, and read the posts of hundreds of people raving about Josh as though he were a mature adult who is STILL abusing kids today, . . . . Then read all the posts of those who think that the Duggar family DESERVES the pain they are going through. you realize it is disproportionate and that it is simply because they have professed a love for Jesus Christ!!

    5. I don’t think their family is a “façade” because they have some dysfunction. All families do. Their healing is between them and Jesus Christ.

  • May 25, 2015 at 5:40pm

    Actually . .. .

    1. I have a sibling who is gay. I love her and get along fine with her companion. Gay friends have been a part of my life since I was in my early 20s. Do I agree with their lifestyle? No. But I can hate the sin and love the sinner.

    2. I don’t think the Duggar parents were “hiding” anything. It was their RESPONSIBLITY to protect the privacy of their minor children.

    3. I don’t think what Josh did was “normal.” But his own sisters have forgiven him and want the best life possible for him. They have stated so publicly. What business is it of ours to force Josh and his sisters to “relive ” any of this publicly. OR to force Josh to be punished for something his sisters clearly don’t want to suffer for?

    4. Don’t judge. I am NOT a fan of 19 Kids and Counting, nor of the Duggars.
    But one out of 20 kids having a major problem at 14 is pretty good odds, I would think.

    Despite your level of outrage and anger, they will be OK because they have the ability to forgive and to love and to heal without forever damning others in judgment!

  • [1] May 24, 2015 at 10:08pm

    Yeah, Montel,

    You are in a place to judge, I guess. Because you made a fortune capitalizing on the worst kind or reality TV — using real people’s pain and dysfunction to make a living.

  • [2] May 24, 2015 at 9:42pm

    I think most people commenting here are missing the point.

    The girls in question have forgiven and moved on. They are not, apparently, troubled. The confused and dysfunctional teenage Josh matured and found a healthy sexuality. He made sure the woman who married him knew of his past.

    Did the family”cover it up?” — Or did they protect the privacy of their children ? . . (all minors at the time)

    The only thing that makes this story headline material is that the Duggars profess a desire to live by the Word of God. Out of 20 kids, they have one kid who messed up as a teen and the world wants them vilified.

    Please let this story die. The Duggars are finally off TV. Mr. Duggar should have made that decision a couple of years ago. He should let his family live a normal life already. So this really a blessing in disguise for them, in the long run.

    God help those who judge them that harshly. Scripture warns that you will be dealt the same uncharitable lack of mercy.

    The victims are not angry, wounded or wanting any kind of reparation. After all these years, WHY IS THIS ANYBODY’S BUSINESS??

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  • [-1] May 23, 2015 at 4:18pm

    An incestuous sexual predator at 14?

    God blessed you especially, AmericaninParis,… I guess. Because you never made a horrible mistake as a teen, nor were horribly confused or messed up, nor cringing in shame and regret because you hurt someone and you can’t take it back?

    God bless ya, son. But remember judgment comes upon us all at one time or another!

  • May 23, 2015 at 4:13pm

    Maggie, you missed one critical point Wiley may have been making…… Protection under law should apply equally to all, especially in the case of young minors.

  • May 23, 2015 at 4:08pm

    I agree, McKenzie. If this behavior was stopped when he was still a young teen, if he has a healthy sexuality now, and if his sisters are Ok and forgiving of him, then it really is no one else’s business!

    I know some really amazing human beings, who are loyal, God-loving, kind-hearted, hard-working and brave individuals . . who messed up big time when they were young. I think holding a kid forever responsible for something he did when he was 14 is tragic.

  • [-2] May 23, 2015 at 3:54pm

    I don’t think the family “covered it up” as much as they protected the privacy of their own children!! They were all minors and are afforded that privacy under the law anyway.

    It was a private matter.

    And, again, Josh does not deserve to die. That is over the top. (I just heard an interview that confirmed his own sisters forgive him and have moved on.)
    I think the family does indeed have good morals and values, despite the one child that was messed up. They are not the worst parents, nor is this the most dysfunctional situation on reality TV!

    I think it is fine that the show is canceled. It was time anyway for them to move on with life as normal people, not reality stars! But, the family needs to be left alone by the press and all the judgmental people out there. There are no victims who are still angry, hurt, or unforgiving. If they are healed, to vilify the entire family is not necessary.

    And, again, just because someone says they are a Christian does not mean they are infallible.

  • [-1] May 23, 2015 at 6:40am

    Erik and American,

    I just re-read the story above — because it was the only story I had read before I posted here.

    In fact, it is the only one I have read to date on the subject since I haven’t been online since yesterday.

    It stated he molested “underage” girls. He is also quoted as saying he was a “young teenager”

    Where does it state he was touching his sisters?

    If he did that, then YES, he needed counseling and help. But he was a 12-13 year old kid when he did this, right?

    You want to give him the death penalty?!?
    I am NO fan of 19 Kids and Counting! I think they needed to get off the air a long time ago. But I don’t think they should be vilified because one of their kids was screwed up when he was young.
    But my point still stands: it seems as if people of faith can never do anything wrong without being destroyed by the media, but those in the limelight of Hollywood get a pass no matter how dysfunctional and repeatedly immoral they are.

  • [-4] May 22, 2015 at 7:00pm

    Duggar is publicly shamed for “molesting” teenage girls when he was a teenager?

    Really?

    And this is now enough to cause his whole family shame and cancellation of their TV show?

    And the media just shrug their shoulders when teen music idols and movie stars repeatedly get arrested for abuse of drugs, and all kinds of wild morality?

    No, there is no double standard.

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  • May 22, 2015 at 6:58am

    When we homeschooled that was great for us too. To skip the endless fundraising, enduring years with teachers who forget why they are actually there, ridiculous homework loads, crappy overpriced school pictures, superfluous ceremonies, overpriced field trips, days when all they do is watch movies or have an assembly — supposedly for the kids, but really to give the teachers a break.

    There are some positive things about my kids being back in school this year, but getting a superior education is not one of them. As a single, working mom, I had no choice but to have them return to school. I miss the time with my family that homeschool afforded us.

  • May 22, 2015 at 6:34am

    I went to a K-6, and then to junior high, which was 7th to 9th, and then high school. Public School all the way. I had one graduation at the end of it all.

    Quite frankly, I didn’t think it was such a great accomplishment to make it through 12 years of public school.

    My boys had graduation for preschool and for kindergarten too! Always thought it was silly. I couldn’t enjoy those things anyway with the crush of parents and grandparents trying too rush the stage to get video and pictures throughout.

    After that I homeschooled until this year. My kids are now in Catholic school again and I can tell you, I am not impressed.

    Oh, and in a few weeks, we have an 8th grade graduation ceremony and dinner dance. A nice idea, but my son couldn’t care less.

  • [6] May 21, 2015 at 6:18am

    I agree.

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  • [7] May 20, 2015 at 6:54pm

    This is exactly how the free market SHOULD work.

    The owners of the company serve them politely
    They give the customers a good deal on rings.
    The customers love the rings and are happy.

    Then, the owner puts up a sign on his private property declaring his beliefs.
    If the customers do not like the sign, then they request a full refund.
    The shop owner refunds the money.. . or not, depending upon store policy.

    Free Market.

    End of story.

  • [1] May 20, 2015 at 6:27pm

    J,

    I appreciate your well thought out reply. Here is my response.

    1.The Vatican did not “change” the quote. What the Pope actually said was recorded. It was directly translated. It can, and has been, verified. The media did not, at first, accurately report what was really said. And so, therefore, the media should print retractions.

    2. I do not consider the Pope an official secular state power. However, the Vatican State does have representatives around the world. And governments do send official diplomats to the Vatican State.

    3. The fact that the Pope reaches out to sinners such as Abbas cannot be inferred to mean he is “aligning himself” with a “political side.” Jesus had supper with prostitutes and corrupt people of all sorts. Does that mean he was “aligning” himself with them?

    4. The “medal” in question is not a trophy or award. It was most likely a medal in the Catholic sense, which is a blessed object, meant to confer spiritual comfort when one is seeking strength and guidance from God.

    5. The Holy See and the State of Israel have a strong diplomatic accord, and recognize each other as official states. So, the Pope does not have to further “recognize” Netanyahu.

    If you really understand Catholicism, you realize that our faith is a direct fulfillment of all Jewish law and prophecy.

    And, if Pope Francis has not yet visited leaders of Israel to give blessed gifts, you cannot infer that to have any significance one way or another.

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