“For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature;
27 and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error.”
"Let a woman learn in silence with all submissiveness. I permit no woman to teach or have authority over men; she is to keep silent." 1 Timothy 2:11
Poor 'lil Harry PooPoo. You just HATE God; HATE that HE tells you right from wrong; HATE He does not succumb to your demands and endorse your perversions as if normal; HATE He has His own rules and does not adopt yours.
Poor Harry PooPoo.
Deal with it. HE, not you, created a universe. YOU are not the big, almighty one here. Like the rest of us, you are but an ant, scurrying about thinking you are important. Not.
Yup. Lie, attack and insult as usual. That's just what God would want from you. I notice that's what you normally resort to when you cannot refute my points.
There you go, not in any surprise.
I call you out on your lies, so you accuse me of lying.
Yet the truth remains: neither you nor I have created a single universe, let alone a solar system, planet, creature, or even a grain of sand. We are but ants scurrying about. you are. I am. We all are.
And there IS a Creator who made all of this, and He has told us what he expects of us. If He were a simple King, with mean knights who could slay us with swords, we would live in fear and comply. But because he is not visible we pretend WE are king-of-the-hill. Or, rather, YOU do (and many others).
All I can say is: good luck with that. Ants are not all that well known for taking over the universe. I doubt we will really end up as masters of the universe, our parlor tricks of gene splicing and atom smashing not withstanding.
In your previous post, you certainly did lie, attack and insult. In both your posts you ignored my points. You have not called me out, nor refuted anything I have said. I cited a passage from the New Testament, and if the Bible is the word of God, is this law not still valid?
IF there is a god, yes, we would all be ants to him. And IF there is a god, I am quite sure he would be rather disgusted with all the discrimination and hatred carried out in his name.
December 30, 2013 at 10:05am
Just another in a long line of over-inflated ego-maniacal self-aggrandizing A$$es that crave public attention…. and actually believe that they MATTER… and that their OPINION – because they are part of the Hollyweird Elite – carries weight in the social discourse.
“People will be lovers of self, lovers of money, proud, arrogant, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy,
3 heartless, unappeasable, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not loving good,
4 treacherous, reckless, swollen with conceit, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God,
5 having the appearance of godliness, but denying its power. Avoid such people.”
2 Timothy 3:2-5
November 26, 2013 at 9:56am
The sad irony is, I cannot recall the last time an “assault rife with a high-capacity magazine” was brought to a wedding – and resulted in multiple fatalities – anywhere in the U.S.
November 26, 2013 at 9:53am
And why, do you suppose, that there is no BIG PUSH in Yemen, to ban THEIR guns??
November 26, 2013 at 9:39am
This show is completely foul, insipid and distasteful, totally bereft of any redeeming value whatsoever.
That The Blaze is now part of the “social conversation” – as opposed to the hard-hitting journalistic medium that IT SHOULD BE – is as sad as it is disappointing.
Move along…..nothing to see here…..
November 15, 2013 at 3:17pm
Oh, man…. I almost just puked in my mouth when I read the headline.
When I was a liberal college student (read: drug user) in the Dark Ages, I could actually stand his music – AND Bruce’s caterwauling….
But anyone who is actually rubbing two brain cells together and doing any type of critical thinking, could NOT possibly square Bruce’s lyrics and ANY theology — with the possible exception of LIBERAL theology.
Were anyone really remotely interested in studying theology themes in rock music, they may do well to investigate the music of Kerry Livgren, formerly of the band KANSAS; John Elefante, of MASTADON as well as Neil Morse, formerly of SPOCK’S BEARD.
Don't forget Dustin Kensrue formerly of THRICE....
TRTUMPETCALL, Bruce definitely falls under the label of libtard. But I do think that his music does include biblical themes (as does a lot of other music). It is a legitimate idea for discussion but it certainly does not merit a college credit.
Thank you, trumpet.
October 22, 2013 at 12:38pm
“I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man; she must be quiet.”
1 Timothy 2:12
Neither I – nor God’s Word – is mentioning anything about Race, or Hate.
Though Paul's opinions should be treated with respect, this passage is clearly Paul's opinion and not God's commandment.
Peter made it clear that Paul was not merely expressing his own opinion. Peter referred to Paul's writings as Scripture.
Titus 1:1-11 - Women don't belong in this role. If you don't like it, take it up with God on Judgment Day. He created roles for men and women.
DFSolley - Check out 2 Tim 3:12-17 - If Paul is lying, and God allowed it in the Holy Scriptures, then the whole Book should be thrown out. Either accept the Bible, or go your own way. God gives us the choice. But don't try to debunk the Bible. You are wasting your time.
The O.T. is the Jewish bible. True Christians follow the N.T. and Christ gave women equal footing and equal roles.
Perhaps you should take it up with God to rewrite Pauls letter yourself. Until then, it is written as an opinion.
Paul when wrote this to Timothy I think was keeping his Old Jews roots. Maybe this was the reasons he (Paul) didn't like Saint Thecla she had great charisma !
Christ studied and taught from the OT and said “not one jot or tidal would be changed”. The NT was written 70 AD (that is after Christ's resurrection). God is not being mean to women he wants them to be wife and mother in the truest sense. Wives and mothers are so important to the wellbeing of a healthy happy home and prosperous nation; raising God fearing Law abiding children. Today we have it totally backward and upside down and look at the mess we are in!
You cannot be a truly baptised Christian, a child of God if you use Sodom and Gomorrah as your Standard of Law. God will not give you a crown of glory if you cannot follow His laws!
You have a nice day. Something tells me you're going to need it.
I had a minister tell me the "The husband is the head of the house therefore the husband is always wrong." I go rid of the minister and the wife.
No, it wasn't cultural. That's an excuse. It's consistent throughout the Bible.
The reason, also explained by Paul, is that Eve was deceived, but Adam wasn't.
Most women are no different today. Why did 80% of GenX vote for Clinton? Despite what he did to women?
When it comes to abortion, there is no group who has existed on the planet with the ability to rationalize murder than the western woman. Rationalization is deception of one's self.
When government became feminized under clinton, the truth became irrelevant to the government— and it's now falling apart.
Now, it is conveniently ignored that there are major differences between the way men and women think, but they do think differently. Men, despite such examples as Harry Reid, tend to be far more honest in their thinking. That will ignite a firestorm, but it's been consistent as long as I've been alive.
jblaze, I agree, but, as you said, raising God fearing children, would indeed be classified as a leadership role. The problem I have is when people try to cite the Bible and then formulate the opinion that God has said that women are subservient to men. This reeks too much Islamic beliefs to me. Jesus had women who were instrumental in his teachings. Some couples are not blessed in having children, so then should they be subservient to men? Or not capable of serving the Lord in the same manner as men? I don't believe so. By some of these posts it would appear that some believe that is so.
Amen Trumpetcall. Its Gods Word deal with it folks! And for you clowns who claim that things are different now because we are under the New Covenant....THESE ARE SCRIPTURES FROM THE NEW TESTIMENT. GET A CLUE! If you don't even read the Bible your not fit to lecture or instruct anyone. Man was made first in Gods direct image (hense the Father and Son). Woman was made FROM the man and FOR the man. Woman sinned first with the deciever before Adam, and God gave man authority over her. Women are supposed to wear their hair long as a sign of submission to their man, and they are supposed to cover their head in church especially if praying or prophesying. Women are not permitted to teach men PERIOD. Why are people so stubborn? God's commands make perfect sense but our obedience is not dependent on our personal comprehension of his commands! GOT IT? GOOD!
Dear capt.crumbles; thank you for reminding me why I had to give up being a Christian, to get away from idiots like you! You are a male bigot and you hide under the skirts of the scriptures and are quite prepared to quote chapter and verse as long as it conforms to your loony views on what is proper in life. The Eternal One in you is dying to be heard, but you have decided not to listen....sad...
Hate to have to tell all you misogynists this, but Deborah judged Isreal for 20 years. This was in the Old Testament. The first people who were sent specifically to proclaim the ressurection were women, since the men were all hiding in fear of the Romans and the Sanhedrin. The passage cited is from Paul, a lifelong Pharisee, whose anti-female biases were well known. They are also primarily concerned with heiarchical structures within the church; they were never intended to be a club to beat women into submission before an "I have a p3n1s, therefore, I am always right" male ego.
I'd be interested in your explanation of why Deborah was the leader of the Jews for so long? Also, why was Priscilla mentioned before Aquilla? And why did Jesus reveal himself first to the women at the tomb and not wait for the fellas?
I also wonder if you have taken into account that, as the 4th largest city in the known world Ephesus was full of priestesses to Artemis and other Greek and roman and Pagan Gods of fertility that regularly engaged in fertility orgies?
Paul was teaching God's law and he was referring to Genesis 3:16 - Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.
We cannot remove this curse only God can, and he will but in his time when all is fulfilled. We can cry foul till we are blue in the face, but we have to pay the penalty for Eve's weakness until the time of restitution. We need to show God we are obedient and we will be rewarded in every way.
1 Cor. 14:34 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience as also saith the law. 35 And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church. 36 What? came the word of God out from you? or came it unto you only?
Women need to be smarter and approach this with everything they have to give. We are supposed to be business women in our own homes, buying and selling property, keeping the finances, keeping the home in order, always respecting the husband as the head of the family. The husband in return must respect his wife and be a Godly husband. If either breaks God's law in this respect the family falls apart.
I agree. She has two strikes against her. Pastors cannot be women and homosexuality is an abomination to God.
Are you married? Children? How old are you? What do/did you do for a living? Your views on this are out-of-sync with the times, it's always interesting when that happens.
1) Other passages where Paul started with "I" he made it clear that it was opinion. Timothy was a personal letter, so he probably didn't feel the need to clarify that.
2) The verb used here is to "permit at this time with a potential future end"- the Greek grammar is more complex.
3) "Woman" and "man" in Greek are also "wife" and "husband" and the latter are more commonly used when translating such passages elsewhere in the NT.
4) Since Paul's argument is based on the outcome of the fall (in which wives were subject to their husbands and not to all males around them) it makes more sense to understand this as a wife not teaching her husband. This supports what Paul taught elsewhere about the husband's responsibility to God to lead his family.
5) Even if one insists on translating it "woman" and "man" it is clear that what Paul was not permitting at that time was one on one teaching or discipleship. It shouldn't be misconstrued as not allowing women to speak to the congregation (something Paul clearly allows for in another epistle) nor to deny her other leadership work. When Paul, wrote of Phoebe, he used the male term for servant (deacon) in referring to her. Not being one for gender bending we can only assume Paul was using it as a title or he would have used the female term.
The problem is not women in ministry, but women and men who will not endure sound doctrine. 2 Thessalonians 2 is the Pauline scriptural passage you should "deal with" an
If you can be bothered to check out the context on 1 Cor. 14:34, the problem was a group of women talking during the service "in the assembly," not a problem of women addressing the assembly which Paul affirmed only chapters before in 1 Corinthians 11. The context makes it clear that questions were being asked in a disruptive way. the Greek makes it clear that the problems was a group action .
It's interesting the way that so many of you believe that your over-emphasis of one passage and ignoring of those passages which disagree with you is somehow more righteous than those who disagree with you. Why are Paul's words to Timothy more important to you than his words in Galatians 3:28 about the equality of all believers in the spiritual realm?
In Titus Paul refers to deacons and pastors as husbands of only one wife. You look at that and conclude that this is a requirement that the position be filled by only males. Yet, as I pointed out above, Paul called Phoebe a deacon, and she wasn't a man. What if the important characteristic is to be monogamous among cultures where marriage was a free-for-all (much like ours)?
Don't confuse your interpretation of scripture with the real meaning and intent of scripture. Come to the Word humbly to be changed by it, not seeking to change it nor force it to conform to traditions of men.
Good call. I'm sure it was lust that made up her mind not the Lord directing her.
This woman is SATAN'S COUNTERFEIT to mock God.
 October 21, 2013 at 1:33pm
As WC Fields was quoted as saying:
“I love kids…. I could just never finish a whole one.”
"It never happened"
You're a fool.
Go to Newtown.
Talk to witnesses for yourself, as i have.
..or do you really think it's plausible that tons of little kids, teachers, 1st responders, cops, and EMTs are all "actors" that have been living in Newtown for generations... and were really just some sort of sleeper cell waiting to put on their grand performance?
How that 15 mins feel there buddy?
Now please go away.
I think now is the proper time.
What a D I C K!
It happened. Children died. The "false flag" is who what and how this slaughter of the innocent was allowed to happen.
If I were an antigun zealot who demonizes the AR-15, Dear Leader, Feinstien, Biden etc etc etc, I would want at least the video of the scrawny Adam Lanza "shooting his way into the school". Would that sell the banning of said weapon to those even on the fence about them? The video of the Naval Yard shooter was out rather quickly. Columbine also.
Your comment does nothing but discredit those who "boldly question" anything the proven liars in the media and government put out. Too vague and too flippant.
The man in the woods who was detained, then never seen or heard from again. The fact that a drill was happening near by of a school shooting. Like the Boston bombing. It happened , people died and were injured, but the who what and how are what is the problem. Another drill. The FBI claiming they needed our help identifying two stooges that they actually knew they were and are.
Besides, where are all the children if it didnt happen? It;s foolish. The story of what the boy did may or may not be true. If it were one of my children? By God it would be, I wouldnt care if it really werent, I just couldnt imagine them sitting there as a frightened target but rather doing anything a six year had in their brave hearts to survive.
You are a simple minded fool out to discredit.
Yeah, this story is very fishy.
False flag my azz, adults and children were slaughtered that's why they had all the funerals fool.
Trumpetcall, Where is Jesse Lewis right now if it was all a performance?
October 14, 2013 at 11:42am
Listen Up! Pay Attention!!
Of COURSE they are “at peace”!!!
Mitt Romney is a vetted, card-carrying CFR member. He was the chosen “LOSER” to Barry — just as McCain was their “chosen choice” for the People to “choose” as Barry’s opponent in ’08.
Romney is an elite – and a member of the CFR, the Alfalfa Club, and these traitors will destroy this country.
Costas needs to take some of his mo-naay and buy himself a brain, or a conscience, and a sense of humor. And while he’s at it, stop trying to appease the Politically Correct crowd. (It’s not your father’s NFL)
And as for the (p)Resident-in-Chief, does anyboy really care what his thoughts are — especially on THIS moronic topic????
Those who know are fully aware that Oblah-blah gets his thoughts – and marching orders from his father — who was a liar from the beginning……
And while I’m on a roll here……
This country is facing what seems to be problems of such magnitude that idiotic “diversions” — such as professional sports — and the headline-dominating topic of the ongoing “offending name” controversy — hardly seems relevant.
“Show’s over….. Nothin’ to see here…. Move along….”
The Progressives don't like sports/competition anyway--they've been attacking football because it's "too violent," and sticking their noses into baseball. Of course players shouldn't be allowed to use performance enhancing drugs, but does it really need to be discussed in Congress?? Can't Major League Baseball enforce their own rules without government oversight? The occupant of the White House doesn't care about sports; he can't even answer simple questions on the subject when asked. They want us all the same--and we all get a trophy--yea! (I personally think they're trying to destroy football because we're the only country who plays--it makes us unique, and they want to "level" the playing field.) They don't really care about the Indians any more than they care about black people or any other ethnic group; they're just tools the Progressives use to advance their agenda. I'm surprised they haven't stopped selling beer at the games and replaced it with "Kool-Aid." (I accidentally typed "Kook-Aid"--maybe that's more like it...)
You've got it TRUMPETCALL...this is a diversion so the American People watch the swinging pocketwatch while the other hand is down their pants.
September 18, 2013 at 10:07am
i am certainly no fan of Karl – but how much Kool-Aid has Juan actually consumed?!?
There may not be any left for anyone else….
September 6, 2013 at 9:18am
Flesh: “Good Grief! What a COW!”
Heart: “How very sad for them; the ordeal has taken quite a toll on them both.”
Flesh: “Geo will have chicks falling all over him!”
Heart: “Not a very good example to the world for people who claim to be Christ-followers.”
Flesh: “Oh, shut up!”
Heart: “11 For the grace of God has appeared, bringing salvation for all people,
12 training us to renounce ungodliness and worldly passions, and to live self-controlled, upright, and godly lives in the present age,
13 waiting for our blessed hope, the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ,
14 who gave himself for us to redeem us from all lawlessness and to purify for himself a people for his own possession who are zealous for good works.”
September 5, 2013 at 4:44pm
The fact that this story is only on the BLAZE – and nowhere else in the LameStream Media – should reveal in crystal clarity:
With so many other “crisis points” happening (around the world) what is of actual importance is of no apparent consequence.
Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain….
September 5, 2013 at 9:21am
There’s another 3 minutes I’ll never get back….
What a waste. What a NON-STORY!! ( Helloo, BLAZE, looking in your general direction )
I’m truly sorry my curiosity got the best of me and I watched that.
And I’m even more sorry that George will live the rest of his life under a morbid public microscope.
July 20, 2013 at 5:47pm
there is a reason they were called the “Yellow Peril” – just ask any survivors of the Chosen Reservoir Breakout – if you can find any!
July 20, 2013 at 5:26pm
There was a reason they were called the “Yellow Peril” – just ask any survivors of The Chosen Reservoir Breakout – if you can find any.
 July 18, 2013 at 8:10am
After a long absence from posting, I couldn’t resist this one.
Drinking and sex outside of marriage in America – most prevalent among God-Hating (read: Christian bashing) Liberal Nutballs of both sexes and so-called “Progressives” – and is glorified by both Hollywood and the Media.
They don’t even have the cognitive ability to see that they themselves WILL be targets WHEN Sharia Law comes to America.
As the song goes: “Ain’t No Stoppin’ Us Now….(We’re On The Loose)