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tzion

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  • [2] November 25, 2014 at 12:15pm

    Indians weren’t counted at all. From Article I Section 2:

    “Representatives and direct Taxes shall be apportioned among the several States which may be included within this Union, according to their respective Numbers, which shall be determined by adding to the whole Number of free Persons, including those bound to Service for a Term of Years, and excluding Indians not taxed, three fifths of all other Persons.”

    Indians were excluded (so long as they weren’t taxed) and “other persons” were counted for 3/5.

  • November 25, 2014 at 12:03pm

    It says a lot about Democrat politics if they feel that they need people to fear republicans in order to win elections.

  • [1] November 24, 2014 at 1:24pm

    What is it with antisemites and fallacies? Making up a fictitious scenario and then treating this fantasy as though it actually happened isn’t a real argument.

  • November 24, 2014 at 12:04pm

    And here we see once again how nil isn’t what he claims: conservative. A conservative would hold Spectre responsible for her own actions. Nil holds millions of Israeli Jews and millions more Jews who aren’t Israeli all responsible for the action of this one person.

    Newsflash nil, guilt by association and collective punishment are leftist ideologies. Conservatives embrace innocent until proven guilty and individual responsibility.

  • November 24, 2014 at 11:59am

    @nil
    “Ha ha – then you should agree with the Palestinians about these pushy illegals that created Israel (using terrorism, I might add.)”

    You have never provided one millionth of a piece of evidence to show that the Jews were illegal immigrants. Therefore, I see no problem calling you a liar and saying you are guilty of libel against the Jewish immigrants who legally settled in what is today Israel.

    Moreover, Israel was not founded by terrorists. Ben Gurion was not a terrorist and he was the one who founded Israel.

    In contrast, Arafat was a terrorist and he was made leader of the Palestinian Authority.

    Conclusion, you are a liar, you are guilty of libel, you use double standards, and you’re an antisemite. Any objections?

  • [4] November 24, 2014 at 11:51am

    “The whole incident is entirely coincidental, as opposed to being miraculous.”

    That’s exactly the point though. Judaism doesn’t believe in coincidence. Judaism believes that small miracles, the things people call coincidence, happen everyday. It doesn’t have to break the laws of reality to be miraculous. I personally had a small miracle occur where, simply by forgetting my glasses one morning and having to turn back to get them, I ended up in just the right place at just the right time.

    After all, most of the famous miracles were coincidences as well. You think there’s anything supernatural about frogs coming out of the Nile? Are locust swarms consuming entire harvests unusual? No. But the timing of them and the fact that Moses warned Egypt of these plagues make them miraculous.

  • November 24, 2014 at 8:34am

    @mojo
    “Nor was there anything about ethnic cleansing, but they did/are doing that, too.”

    This may be my ignorance, but generally speaking I find that cases of ethnic cleansing usually result in a specific group’s population decreasing. When has this ever happened in Israel? Israel’s Arab minority had remained at 20% of the total population going back to the 1950s.

    In contrast, several Arab countries have seen 95-100% decreases in their Jewish population. Moreover, the largest organized killing of Palestinian Arabs was carried out by Jordan, not Israel. But of course, it’s like my old teacher once said: “When Arabs kill Arabs, the world doesn’t care. When Arabs kill Jews, the world is sympathetic. When Jews kill Arabs, the world is outraged.”

  • [2] November 24, 2014 at 8:28am

    @just
    “Rights are universal and inherent or they aren’t rights.”

    Rights are universal. However, our government, being established by us the people, is only responsible for protecting the rights of legal US citizens or those legally residing in this country who are not citizens. The idea of an illegal immigrant receiving full legal protection is like a murderer accusing a man of stealing from him. If you want to be protected under the law, then quite frankly you shouldn’t be violating it.

  • November 24, 2014 at 8:23am

    @cdn
    “The nazis did horrible, unspeakable things to millions and millions of people in Europe. Years later a group of Europeans set off for the middle east and brought with them, the terror that was bestowed upon them.”

    And this cdn is a perfect example of how you don’t know the first thing about the history of Zionism. You make it sound as though Zionism came along between 1945 and 1948. Jews began LEGALLY immigrating to Palestine as part of the Zionist movement almost 3 decades earlier. And despite the facts that they came through 100% legal channels, were entirely peaceful, and harmed no one already living there, as early as 1920 there were Arabs murdering Jews in Mandatory Palestine, in one case destroying an entire village.

  • [3] November 23, 2014 at 9:28pm

    @for
    In other words, the only “right” that should be denied is the right to deny others their rights. I agree. After all, there is no such right as the right to violate someone else’s rights.

  • [6] November 23, 2014 at 6:25pm

    Oh please. Yes let’s focus on ONE similarity and conclude that if two societies share ONE similarity they must be IDENTICAL.

    By that logic: the US is a nuclear power, Russia is a nuclear power. Absolutely no difference between the two.

    Or how about this one: All human males have _____. All rat males have _____. Absolutely no difference between the two.

    If your proof that two things are the same is based on ONE similarity then all you’ve done is lie by creating a fallacious argument.

  • [5] November 23, 2014 at 6:19pm

    “He made a covenant with Abram, then Moses. Neither of those two were Jews, for there was no Judea in their time.”

    I’m going to stop you there Mojo. First, G-d never made a covenant with Moses. He made a covenant with all of Israel THROUGH Moses as his intermediary. Clearly you need to reread your Bible.

    And second, this claim about Moses not being Jewish is just you nitpicking over definitions. If we started calling all apples “jopberries”, a person living 1000 years from now can’t claim that “jopberries” (AKA apples) didn’t exist in the 15th century because the word didn’t exist. Moses was a Levite, one of many groups that make up the Nation of Israel, or Israelites. Judea, in Hebrew, is called Yehuda, the same name as the tribe known in English as Judah, an Israelite tribe. It was called Judea because it was ruled by kings from the tribe of Judah, who were Israelites just like Moses. And since Israelites are descended from Israel, also known as Jacob, they are by extension descended from Abraham.

  • [3] November 23, 2014 at 5:24pm

    “Jews always point to the Balfour Declaration as justification for their existence. Can’t anymore, for this Bill contradicts that Declaration.”

    The Balfour Declaration didn’t create Jews. Assuming that you meant “Israelis” not “Jews” though still doesn’t make that statement true. The Balfour Declaration was a promise made by Britain to establish a Jewish homeland in what was then known as Palestine. This was codified in the form of the League of Nations’ Mandate of Palestine and was fulfilled in 1948 upon Israel’s founding.

    From that point forward the Balfour Declaration was for all intents and purposes fulfilled. After all, were the Balfour Declaration still in effect, Britain would be obligated to defend Israel from those seeking its destruction.

  • [3] November 23, 2014 at 5:19pm

    If that’s all it does then fine. It’s some of the talk that’s been happening that has me nervous. The comments of some of those pushing this bill suggests they believe in one set of rights for Israeli citizens and a separate set of “national rights” exclusive to Jews.

    Like I said originally, all nations have full power to dictate who is allowed to immigrate (though I personally prefer it when people are individually reviewed). Saying Israel is a Jewish state is also no problem. Iran is a Persian state after all. I’m just not so comfortable with this concept of “national rights”. Call it Israel’s right as a state to choose to allow Jews to immigrate. Calling it a right reminds me of those who claim health insurance is a right.

  • [4] November 23, 2014 at 1:16pm

    @troll
    I thought that was what I said.

  • [7] November 23, 2014 at 1:13pm

    @dad
    I couldn’t agree with you more. Trading non-citizens as citizens is just as bad, if not worse, as treating citizens as non-citizens.

  • November 23, 2014 at 12:53pm

    As much as I like Netanyahu on issues like Iran and security, I have to side with Yesh Atid on this issue. Being cautious over who you allow to become a citizen is one thing. Saying that certain citizens have more rights than others is something else entirely. A Druze who fights in the IDF doesn’t have the right to treat the Israeli flash add his own?

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  • [1] November 23, 2014 at 12:34pm

    So 200 years ago it was semitism. 50 years ago it was Zionism. Now it’s neo-Zionism? What’s next? Neo-semitism?

    Making up names for imaginary movements does not make for an impressive argument.

  • [3] November 23, 2014 at 10:32am

    The Jews in charge of the Temple (the Sadducees, a sect that died out long ago while their opponenets, the Pharisees, spawned modern day Judaism) were corrupt and loyal to the pagan society of Rome. Thus, the Jews lost the privilege of having a Temple until such a time as they could earn it back.

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  • [5] November 22, 2014 at 7:58pm

    So because he’s man enough NOT to let a girl bully him into retaliating that’s somehow harmful to his image and message?

    And how is someone an “agitator” if they’re just standing there calling for peace and supporting Israel?

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