Amen amen amen!!!!! I REALY am happy NOT to hear or see this POTUS!
I vote for that ... I am sick of having to mute and change the channel .. can't stand his face nor voice .. have had more than enough.
When I listen to the radio, every 15 MINUTES some news chick comes on and the first words out of her mouth is "President Obama....." I simply turn the volume all the way down. I am sick of hearing about him, seeing him, or hearing his commie pinko voice.
CATB - you voted for him? It took you 4 years to see that there were some real issues? Now, look what people like you have done to this country.
Bek - that's not what Cat said. Read it again.
February 13, 2013 at 9:36pm
Once again the gov’t has someone holed up & no where for them to go and they take ‘em out instead of waiting ‘em out.
That isn't actually logic you're using there. That's just silliness.
They are treating this teacher as though she is a federal employee. The Constitution doesn't say anything about state employees and religion it only restricts the federal Congress from making any law restricting religion. If this teacher is a state employee she is free to practice religion in public.
This teacher deserves to win her lawsuit. It's also time for the atheists to be held accountable for their bullying.
The Bible is full of inspirational verses and stories, which are just as valid and educational as the following quotes. (I bet her 'boss' would have no problem with her posting these.)
"Imagine all of us living in peace, it's too beautiful to just be a dream.”
~ John Lennon
"The meaning of peace is the absence of opposition to socialism." (she is in NY - right?)
~ Karl Marx
And where IS that law?
There are more law SUITS than law.
Our founders set up Sunday Services in the House of Representatives, the War Dept office and the Treasury office. This occurred i the House for almost 3/4 of a century and NO Religion was established!
The modern definition is not truth and it is not Jefferson's.
I SAY- HUNT DOWN THE COMPLAINING STUDENT AND FAMILY AND GIVE THEM H E DOUBLE HOCKEY STICKS! Do what the libtards do for once- give them a taste of their own medicine. Time to defeat them with a scorched earth policy- take no prisoners- we are at total war. No compromising anymore as we always lose.
for the last time...no state can violate the Constitution or any federal law. Period. Zero. That's the whole list. See Article VI. Constitution is the supreme law of the land. If it's not the 2nd or the 10th, most Blazers have evidently not read the Constitution.
HenryKnox, there is this thing called the 14th Amendment that has incorprorated the bill of rights onto the States.
If this teacher wants to fill her classroom with religious non-sense she can go teach at a religious school.
At last a Christian that isn't going to lie down and be another doormat for Jesus just because the ACLU or Freedom From Religion threatens some legal action!. Freedom of speech and freedom of religion doesn't just apply to the liberal/socialist mindset, but to all citizens, even if the speech or religion may be odious to some or even to the many. That is also why so called 'hate speech' is actually a Trojan horse for stripping First Amendment rights. Similarly, there is NO provision in the Constitution that says or implies that an individual has a right to be free from offence. The Founders well may have said to such pathetic ones who demand all the above, "suck it up, cupcake".
Furthermore, the rights of citizens cannot be abridged just because said citizen may hold a public sector job. This teacher has every right to have her beliefs and HOW can any normal thinking person (hmmm... here is a key to understanding liberals...the operative word is normal) that the mere presence of a bible constitutes establishment of anything except that its owner may know what it says. It is the right of her students not to believe the way she does even if she does not publically state her beliefs. It has been my opinion that the ACLU and FFRF are in fact establishing their own religion, namely humanism, by their bastardized views of the law. Birds of a feather... They are guilty of their own accusations. Imagine that!
Those quotes are inspirational not religious. The ACLU and FFRF are a group of closet Communists. They don't care about the Constitution, but wish to change it through judicial fiat.
These leftist trolls are idiots. Am I creating an establishment of religion if as a Government employee I merely quote a bible verse? Idiots, the whole lot of them. The fourteenth amendment did not repeal any old powers, nor create any new.
Did Jefferson create or sponsor an establishment of religion when he said in his famous Bill for Establishing Religious Freedom, "Almighty God hath created the mind free"?
Did Lincoln create or sponsor an establishment of religion when he said in his famous Gettysburg Address, "that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom"?
Did Roosevelt create or sponsor an establishment of religion when he said in his famous Military Pocket Bible given to troops, "As Commander-in-Chief, I take pleasure in commending the reading of the Bible to all who serve in the armed forces of the United States"?
The ACLU, FFRF, and any other radical leftist organizations is a threat and danger to the foundations of this nation. Wake up America. Don't let these leftist ignorant radicals take over the nation your fathers fought to protect and preserve for their posterity.
Our rights are God given, and Governments are accountable to the same God.
Apparently all the liberals on here ignore the history of the USA and that ALL 13 original states had a state religion before and after the Constitution was ratified. BTW the Jefferson letter confirmed this fact to the Danbury Baptist Church that the Federal Government wouldn't establish a NATIONAL RELIGION. Liberal revisionists history won't fly here. .
Bam !! you told the truth !!
henryKnox, the Supremacy Clause, The 14th amendment, and Civil Rights laws. Learn them.
I'm sure every one of you would be outraged at the teacher if she was a muslim using passages from the koran... This place reeks of hypocrisy.
You are about to learn about the long arm of Impact Aid. Impact Aid's roots go back to the Great Depression and one of FDR's stimulus programs to create jobs. In this case build schools.
Once thing led to another between 1935 and 1950 which gave birth to the feds saying that instead of pay property taxes they will give aid to schools. Like a drug dealer the federal government gave aid to local schools. In the time it took to cash the first check the local school was dependent on those federal checks. So when attentions was called to the strings attached it was too late, local education was hooked on the federal drug of choice, money.
Next came the teachers unions, text books followed by standardized testing.
Today we rural communities going extinct, slums growing and our nation education ratings worldwide sliding to worst in the world.
Started with good intentions. We now have government run mandatory attendance public education and its failing every community.
Encinom... "If this teacher wants to fill her classroom with religious non-sense she can go teach at a religious school."
Or catch the nearest time machine to pre 1852 American public schools any state.
Congress printed the first Bible in English in the United States and distributed it to schools.
The first joint meeting of congress was in a church within minutes after George Washington took the oath of office at which he added those famous words "So help me God" to the oath written in the Constitution.
14th amendment - "No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States"
This teacher has the right to display religious phrases or sayings in her classroom. Inspirational passages aren't harmful nor threatening. YOU need to learn about the Constitution mate.
"The Bible is full of inspirational verses and stories"
However, the majority of the ones she chose had to do with sin and God, not with non-religious inspirational ones.
I think she did the right thing in taking down the posters and removing the prayer box (no offense, but what do they have to do with a science class? Sin is not scientific).
I think she did the wrong thing by saying the student who complained lacks integrity and has as much honor as someone who cheats on a final exam.
I think she will lose her lawsuit, but will keep her job and her position as the faculty sponsor of the Bible-study extracurricular club.
So if the Apostle Paul is quoted it is banned, but if MLK quotes Paul, then it is OK? Is it OK to post quotes of MLK where he is quoting the bible? If it is, then problem solved. If not, then yes, you would have to ban MLK from the classroom along with several other historical figures. It sounds as though the state is trying to squash free speech. The teacher in not forcing students to follow a religion for a grade, that only happens in Islamic schools. You are treading on a slippery slope when you go after quotes that are hanging on a wall....it opens to door to associating any person, even BHO with a bible quote and thus banning that individual from the classroom. Think that's a stretch? Look at how the 2nd amendment is being massaged and torn apart.
"Look at how the 2nd amendment is being massaged and torn apart."
People massage the US Constitution? That's... well, kinda creepy.
I think the question that still needs to be answered is: if she's teaching science, why does she need "inspirational" quotes about God and sin that are entirely unrelated to the material that she's teaching?
I could understand having famous quotes (even from the Bible) in a literature class. I could understand having quotes about religion in a religion class. I could understand having quotes from famous historical figures (like Reagan) in a history class.
But none of those made a lick of sense in a science class. Four of the items removed included:
"A poster reading: “Wash away all my iniquity and cleanse me from my sin… wash me and I will be whiter than snow.” – Psalm 51:2,7
A poster reading: “The Lord is my rock, and my fortress, and my deliverer; My God, my strength, and whom I will trust.” – Psalm 18:2
A poster reading: “The heavens declare the glory of God; the skies proclaim the work of His hands.” – Psalm 19:1
A poster reading: “Let them praise the name of the Lord, for His name alone is exalted, His splendor is above the Earth and the heavens.” – Psalm 148:13"
That's preachy, and has nothing to do with course material that likely any teacher would cover in a public school.
Sorry Locked, there is no law that dictates that a science teacher's speech is limited to science only. What the constitution does say is, “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;” If the school can show that the teacher is attempting to establish a religion the she is violating the rights of the children. I do believe the teacher has a case where the government is prohibiting the free exercise of the teacher's religion. This would go for any religion, so if she chose to have sign that was pro islamic, then she is free to do that. The government cannot dictate what religion you follow. You cannot ban signs in schools because they are religious, you could only ban all signs. If the school is prepared to ban all signs from the walls of a classroom, then there is no discrimination. This is why when a nativity is taken down, all other religious symbols are removed as well. You have to either wipe it clean or you have to allow it, you cannot pick and choose speech that you feel is offensive and specifically, religious speech. That violates the rights of the teacher. If you read the constitution clearly, no other conclusion can be made, unless you are a liberal....then you are exempt from logic and you just go with your feelings....because how you FEEL trumps all. This is why they kill each other every day...because YOUR feelings trump others feelings and you settle it by murder.
"there is no law that dictates that a science teacher’s speech is limited to science only."
But there's is a valid constitutional and judicial backing that says these sorts of displays are unconstitutional.
"I do believe the teacher has a case where the government is prohibiting the free exercise of the teacher’s religion."
As a public employee, displaying these posters in her role as an educator and on public property, she is blatantly in the wrong.
"This would go for any religion, so if she chose to have sign that was pro islamic, then she is free to do that."
"The government cannot dictate what religion you follow."
"You cannot ban signs in schools because they are religious, you could only ban all signs."
False. It is the contents, not the signs themselves, which are problematic. What you're suggesting is like saying you can't ban shirts with profanity, you can only make all students go topless.
"If you read the constitution clearly..."
Then you are somewhat arrogant for thinking your "clear" interpretation rivals the Supreme Court's, and unrealistic for ignoring judicial review and over 200 years of our legal history.
"...unless you are a liberal….then you are exempt from logic and you just go with your feelings….because how you FEEL trumps all."
You realize this is exactly what you just did by ignoring the Supreme Court's rulings and saying only your reading is "clear," ri
January 12, 2013 at 9:50pm
Sometimes it’s the little things that lead up to big things. Watergate started out as a little thing.