Once, when I was stationed overseas, there was a fight at our NCO club involving a bunch of deployed Marines. It was like 100 of them, and like 12 of us Air Force cops that had to do something to resolve it. That math doesn’t work…especially with Marines, LOL! So, our flight chief stationed a K9 unit at exits at each end of the building. Then he got on a bullhorn and announced “Military Dogs off Leash!” and signaled to let the dogs go. Never seen so many “no longer violent” people stream out the central entrance of a building in my entire life. I don’t know why the same couldn’t work here. Just sayin….
That is a very slippery slope. Perhaps in a future session in congress someday they pass a law that says anyone who identifies as a conservative is mentally ill? I mean, hey, our side says it all the time that “liberalism is a mental disorder.” Once you pass a law that says the mentally ill should be denied access to firearms, you open the door to a whole lot of unintended loopholes for them to take guns from anyone they disagree with. Ever taken an SSRI for depression? Even years ago? BAM. Mentally ill. Ever serve in the military? Easy to pass a “spending bill to help the poor vets” that contains language that could be interpreted that any vet could have a mental illness. BAM. Buh-bye guns for vets. See how the game works?
If you like your guns, you can keep your guns. How’d that work out the last couple of times? What blows me away is that he actually came out and said we should allow civilians to buy assault weapons. But um, Mr. President, isn’t the 2nd Amendment all about ensuring the citizens can rise up against a tyrannical government? Kind of hard to do if you don’t at least have the same small arms capability. Show me a police department in America these days outgunned by someone with an Assault Rifle. Seriously. Every PD has AR-15s, M4s, etc. And a lot have MRAPS. So yeah. Take your comments about not selling assault rifles to civilians and shove them where the sun doesn’t shine. Law Enforcement, at ANY level (Federal, State, Local) is NOT a special class of citizen with more rights, but that seems to be forgotten by those in the beltway.
 October 23, 2015 at 7:12pm
I had the pleasure of being stationed with Captain Hennings at RAF Bentwaters, United Kingdom. 81st Tactical Fighter Wing. He didn’t know me from Adam, LOL. I was just some airman cop who would check his ID before entering the restricted area. But what I do know of him, he’s a totally stand-up guy and I’m proud to have served with him.
October 14, 2015 at 8:11pm
@vaman – Really? Because there was recently a story on here about how the US Supreme Court was debating on whether or not to take a case where a state passed a law outlawing “assault rifles” and other high-capacity, semi-automatic weapons. Let’s say they take that case, and rule in favor of the state. Now there is a precedence for it to be done federally. How many people own such a weapon? How many wouldn’t turn theirs in? How many doors would then have to be kicked in? See, the problem with the left is that they hate the jack-booted thugs. They even try and spin that the conservatives ARE the jack-booted thugs. But what they don’t realize, is that their Socialist, equality, rainbows and unicorns society can only exist if there ARE jack-booted thugs willing to kick in doors. And unfortunately there are all-too-many people who would be just fine being those thugs kicking in doors.
October 12, 2015 at 8:29pm
I’m probably going to upset some folks here, but I agree with Olive Garden’s right to refuse service. But probably not for the reasons you’re thinking. I agree because law enforcement officers should not be treated as a different class of citizen. In fact, our Constitution specifically prohibits creating special classes of citizens with more rights than others. Maybe when more restaurants and retailers start treating cops the same way they treat the rest of us, LEOs won’t be all up in our business every time we open carry. The holier than thou attitude that we see so much of from our police lately starts with the way they are treated outside of their responses. Why can they speed, park in handicapped areas, talk on the phone while driving, carry openly in an establishment where the ownership has decided to adopt a no firearms policy? It must really be shocking to them to suddenly become a serf.
This is the first time I’ve ever posted an uncertain opinion but you make a good point USAF.
I’m not sure if I agree with you but I do know that employees do not have the right to refuse service apart from management permission and management cannot enforce such policies apart from their corporate owners. It is creating confusion and embarrassment. Police are unnecessarily offended and sincere people are losing their jobs.
I understand what you are saying, but as a 17 year leo in AZ, I would be a fool to sit in a public place in full uniform and unarmed. It is not a matter of arrogance or a holier-than-thou type attitude. It is a matter of safety. I would be a target for sure if some thug, criminal type, etc saw me in my uniform without my duty weapon.
Entering a business open to the general public is the exact same thing as walking on a sidewalk. Businesses are public places. Open to anyone who is not breaking the law or disrupting the business.
If a business wants to evade the Public Place laws they have to require membership.
Therefore they have no right to discriminate against anyone and that includes licensed gun owners or Police Officers.
Not upset but totally disagree given the context of the story. He wasn't asking for anything special. Open carry laws don't apply to police officers in the field. He was in full uniform. The fact he was technically off the clock shouldn't matter. If a robbery were in progress it would not have mattered to him whether he were on the clock or not. I'm sure he would have performed his duty...
 October 6, 2015 at 9:21pm
There exist places in America where only law enforcement has guns. A place where every decision, every choice is made for the people, by the government. How to dress, when to eat, what to eat, when to go to be, when to wake up, when to exercise. In fact, weapons of any form or fashion are outlawed, and the population can do nothing as they watch law enforcement ransack their domiciles randomly without warrant in search of them. I am of course talking about a prison. And guess what? Violent crimes, even mass-murders, still happen there.
Excellent point and well said! I’ll use it on the next emotional irrational gun confiscation advocate.
Even prisons have murders!
 October 6, 2015 at 9:05pm
@Mili, thank you for making our point. The vast majority of these all took place in a gun free zone. Only the law-abiding citizens respect that law. The criminals are going to do what they’re going to do regardless of the law. Banning guns would be about as effective at deterring criminals as these gun free zones have been. You want to make changes? Great. So do I. I propose banning gun free zones as they go against the 2nd Amendment to the Constitution. Heck, let’s take it a step further. Let’s say that no state, county, city, or local government can enact ANY form of gun control, and that any of those non-Federal laws be immediately rescinded. Let’s make it so that anyone over the age of 21, that has never been convicted of a felony can legally carry concealed or open, anywhere in the 50 states. I bet you that veteran who tried to block the door would have been carrying. You know, the one who followed the law and paid the ultimate price for it.
please see above statement. I'm sick of being the one developed country with the out of this world death by gun problem.
mili, why would he need to look at your above statement? He simply answered your question about why there were no good guys shooting back. It is because nearly every mass shooting occurs in a location where law-abiding people are prohibited from carrying arms.
Actually to refute your incorrect facts, it was only 5 months ago when a gun carrying good guy shot to terrorists intent on mass murder in Garland, TX.
If you want to help fix the problem, you need to first educate yourself on what the problem is, and quit just blaming inanimate objects that you fear.
 October 5, 2015 at 8:31pm
@Silverhammer05, I don’t know you, or what training you may or may not have, but I would like to point out that most of those from the middle east that would do us harm are far more educated and trained than most in America would give them credit for. Western college educated, and many are battle tested. If they are here, and I’m sure they are, they are not the cave-dwelling, uneducated simpletons that most Americans view them to be. They are dangerous and your average armed civilian, sans some form of tactical training, is woefully outmatched.
Their ideas are certainly cave dwelling. And to your point exactly, they stick out like a sore thumb. If your worried about a WMD dont. The only thing they can do is this lone wolf garbage and I don’t think it would be difficult at all to smoke them. As far as battle tested they have been going up against a force that does not pursue, and usually runs from fire. They have never encountered a real American defending his home and also one that doesn't care about ROE.I will admit they are good at dodging drones seems like we usually only hit wedding party’s and hospitals. The Military has failed on an epic scale and you could blame the leadership meaning lack of leadership. Iraq and Afghan have taken twice as long and cost more than WW2. So either the Mudhut dwellers with old artillery rounds,HME and AKs are more badass than the Nazi’s and Japanese combined in their prime or our Military leadership just sucks. Not to mention the Military has the best tech in the history of mankind? Strange I agree but still not worried at all by these guys. Fortunately for us Putin has done more in the past week against terrorism than the US in 10 years.
Silverhammer, unless it's not being covered, have you noticed no mass beheadings anywhere in the world since Putin manned up and started taking them out? I think it's working.
 October 1, 2015 at 8:32pm
I agree with my fellow Airman. You point only when you intend to shoot. Port arms would have been sufficient.
 September 28, 2015 at 8:43pm
To me, the much scarier thing in this whole article is that shotgun Joe would defeat all of the GOP candidates, and as unthinkable as it is, they would elect a self-proclaimed socialist over Donald Trump. I’m not a Donald fan…I’m still holding out hope for the Cruze missile, but a SOCIALIST? Really? Isn’t that like electing Hitler as the head of the NAACP?
 September 19, 2015 at 9:32pm
How sad, just think of all the topics that graduates will no longer have any experience with: The OttoMAN empire, Social MANipulation, a MANchurian candidate, all things huMAN and huMANity. Even the feminists lose out, as new doctors will never have studied several of the feminine topics such as MENstration and MENopause, which of course will lead to MENtal health issues, not to MENtion the physical stress it will put on woMEN. But hey, at least they’re giving us their approval to stop behaving as gentleMEN.
 August 12, 2015 at 8:29pm
Those who do not know history are doomed to repeat it. “I fear we have awakened a sleeping dragon” – Admiral Yamamoto after bombing Pearl Harbor. If these radical Muslim terrorists start killing our service men and women and their families in their homes, all the gloves come off, and the overwhelming majority of U.S. citizens will have no sympathy for these murderers. And to quote another high-ranking military officer, “You may have a million man army, buy your Navy and your Air Force suck.” – General Shwartzkopf. You start making it personal in our own homes, and we will not only not care if we drop daisy-cutters in the middle of your cities, we’ll be clamoring for it.
No, I’m an Oregon native and a conservative. He’s talking about the infestation of left-wing lunatics that moved up from California in the 70s, 80s, and 90s. They would just assume to turn the whole state into some sort of hikers and bikers utopia with absolutely no business allowed except for light rail services, state government, and of course 420 shops.
 August 10, 2015 at 8:58pm
It’s kind of hard for Rand to do anything with Beohner and Mconnell running the show. Honestly, I don’t understand how anyone can think Trump would make a good president. I don’t suppose we could convince Chuck Norris to run, could we?
 August 7, 2015 at 7:18pm
I did feel that the questioning was biased last night, but maybe a little differently that what a lot of others are saying. To me it seemed like, Bush, Christie, and definitely Trump were asked several more questions (and thus given more airtime) than the candidates I really wanted to hear from (Cruz, Paul, Rubio, Carson)
 August 7, 2015 at 7:12pm
The Cruz Missile!
 August 5, 2015 at 8:19pm
This is just another example of their being two different types of citizens in this country. Since it was a politician (lumped in with other law enforcement) = no ticket. Anyone not a cop or politician = ticket (and possibly some jail time for reckless endangerment)
 August 3, 2015 at 8:25pm
Of course, the liberals still want young boys to be able to play outside (childhood obesity rates, they always proclaim are an epidemic) it’s just that they should be playing with Barbie and Ken. Or Ken and Ken, or Barbie and Barbie. It’s pretty obvious the ******** think that if little boys would only sit down and play tea party, house (and of course the aforementioned Barbie/doctor routine) just like their female counterparts, the world would be rainbows (literally), unicorns, and bedazzled Sketchers. #letboysbeboys
And what did boys play with for the thousands of years before toy guns were invented? To be fair, I played with toy guns when I was younger and as others have pointed out, not pointing them at cops is a good idea, but there are other ways for boys to play besides with guns or barbies.
June 29, 2015 at 11:36pm
I am about to use an argument I’ve used a couple of times on here in the past, and received a ton of support from others. The argument I’ve used is that if Allah is omnipotent and omniscient, why does he need mere mortal men to enforce his Sharia laws? Wouldn’t He know in advance who was, and who was not going to be pure? If He knew that a particular man or woman would violate one of his most sacred laws, would He really need a mortal enforcement squad?
Now here’s the part where I make everyone mad, I suppose. If God is omnipotent and omniscient, why does He need mortal men to enforce his laws? If being gay is opposed to His natural laws, wouldn’t He already know in advance who was and was not going to be pure? Would He need mortal men to prevent these acts by enacting their own inferior laws?
I see religious zealotry equally on both sides of the aisle. I am an atheist, and I have trouble with any so-called religious person who feels they are somehow on the side of righteousness by hurting, or denying others in His name. If you truly believe, leave it to the Big Guy. He’s God. He doesn’t need your help.