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• District Bows to Atheist Group’s Demands, Removes 10 Commandments Displays From Public Schools

  April 13, 2013 at 9:00pm

  In reply to Popp40.

  Any atheist or liberal who quotes the Treaty of Tripoli as support for censorship of religious content in public is an absolute idiot.

  The Treaty was made in a time when Muslim nations were fighting against European nations that were by official Government decree Catholic or Protestant, e.g. Spain, Italy, France, Denmark, England, etc. These all had ecclesiastical matters governed by the superior civil powers. The US in that sense, disassociated itself from such a unity between civil and ecclesiastical governance. Since European nations were ecclesiastically governed, the Muslims understood their wars to be holy religious wars. In that respect, the US responded in declaring that the US never started an international conflict based upon religious opinions, nor ever denied Muslims to practice their religion.

  Noah Webster noted the difference of religion in America from Europe, he explained, “The ecclesiastical establishments of Europe which serve to support tyrannical governments are not the Christian religion but abuses and corruptions of it.” Noah Webster, History of the United States (New Haven: Durrie & Peck, 1832), p. 339.

  To interpret the Treaty to mean anything else is pure ignorance and corruption. A second Treaty was signed on July 4, 1805 superseding the Treaty from 1796. The Treaty from 1805 didn’t contain the phrase “not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion.”

• District Bows to Atheist Group’s Demands, Removes 10 Commandments Displays From Public Schools

  April 13, 2013 at 7:49pm

  In reply to gmo1.

  Bruce Dumbass, So tell me, what Church was founded by posting the Ten Commandments? Hell, if a public school decided to put the Quran on display, so as long as no students were forced to abide by the creeds therein, who the hell cares. We in this nation have something called local governments accountable to their residents. Last time I checked, education was not a power delegated to the federal Government. It should make no difference to any branch in the federal Government if a school puts up a holy Bible or Quran or Buddhist texts. It has no power to decide such things.

• District Bows to Atheist Group’s Demands, Removes 10 Commandments Displays From Public Schools

  April 13, 2013 at 7:45pm

  In reply to kvan.

  The quote says “separation of CHURCH and state”.

  The Ten Commandments do not constitute a Church. Only stupid morons can think such idiocy.

• District Bows to Atheist Group’s Demands, Removes 10 Commandments Displays From Public Schools

  April 13, 2013 at 7:43pm

  In reply to Bruce P..

  Sure, if it does not conflict with universal principles.

  According to James Madison’s personal notes, Benjamin Franklin spoke up during the Constitutional Convention on June 1787, and said, “In the beginning of the contest with G. Britain, when we were sensible of danger we had daily prayer in this room for the Divine Protection. – Our prayers, Sir, were heard, and they were graciously answered. All of us who were engaged in the struggle must have observed frequent instances of a Superintending providence in our favor… And have we now forgotten that powerful friend? or do we imagine that we no longer need His assistance. I have lived, Sir, a long time and the longer I live, the more convincing proofs I see of this truth – that God governs in the affairs of men. And if a sparrow cannot fall to the ground without his notice, is it probable that an empire can rise without his aid? We have been assured, Sir, in the sacred writings that “except the Lord build they labor in vain that build it.” I firmly believe this; and I also believe that without his concurring aid we shall succeed in this political building no better than the Builders of Babel… I therefore beg leave to move – that henceforth prayers imploring the assistance of Heaven, and its blessings on our deliberations, be held in this Assembly every morning before we proceed to business, and that one or more of the Clergy of this City be requested to officiate in that service.”

• District Bows to Atheist Group’s Demands, Removes 10 Commandments Displays From Public Schools

  April 13, 2013 at 7:39pm

  In reply to Enquirer.

  …And perhaps you are indebted to her originally, that is, to your religious education, for the habits of virtue upon which you now justly value yourself. You might easily display your excellent talents of reasoning upon a less hazardous subject, and thereby obtain a rank with our most distinguished authors. For among us it is not necessary, as among the Hottentots, that a youth, to be raised into the company of men, should prove his manhood by beating his mother. I would advise you, therefore, not to attempt unchaining the tiger, but to burn this piece before it is seen by any other person; whereby you will save yourself a great deal of mortification by the enemies it may raise against you, and perhaps a good deal of regret and repentance.” The Works of Benjamin Franklin, (Boston: Tappan, Whittemore, and Mason, 1840), Vol. X, pp. 281-282.

• District Bows to Atheist Group’s Demands, Removes 10 Commandments Displays From Public Schools

  April 13, 2013 at 7:38pm

  In reply to Enquirer.

  So instead we should fill their heads with Sponge Bob Square Pants, Harry Potter, Hannah Montana and Britney Spears? Get f-ing real. Education is the responsibility of parents, not strangers.

  Some people are able to reach such a level of virtuous enlightenment by themselves without instructors, but others need that instruction spelled out for them.

  Here’s Benjamin Franklin’s response to Thomas Paine’s book, Age of Reason, which showed some infidelity to the Christian religion, “I have read your manuscript with some attention. By the argument it contains against a particular Providence, though you allow a general Providence, you strike at the foundations of all religion… You yourself may find it easy to live a virtuous life, without the assistance afforded by religion; you having a clear perception of the advantages of virtue, and the disadvantages of vice, and possessing a strength of resolution sufficient to enable you to resist common temptations. But think how great a portion of mankind consists of weak and ignorant men and women, and of inexperienced, inconsiderate youth of both sexes, who have need of the motives of religion to restrain them from vice, to support their virtue, and retain them in the practice of it till it becomes habitual, which is the great point for its security…

• District Bows to Atheist Group’s Demands, Removes 10 Commandments Displays From Public Schools

  April 13, 2013 at 7:30pm

  Any atheist or liberal who quotes the Treaty of Tripoli as a support for censorship of religious content in public is an absolute idiot.

  The Treaty was made in a time when Muslim nations were fighting against European nations that were by official Government decree Catholic or Protestant, e.g. Spain, Italy, France, Denmark, England, etc. These all had ecclesiastical matters governed by the superior civil powers. The US in that sense, disassociated itself from such a unity between civil and ecclesiastical governance. Since European nations were ecclesiastically governed, the Muslims understood their wars to be holy religious wars. In that respect, the US responded in declaring that the US never started an international conflict based upon religious opinions, nor ever denied Muslims to practice their religion.

  Noah Webster noted the difference of religion in America from Europe, he explained, “The ecclesiastical establishments of Europe which serve to support tyrannical governments are not the Christian religion but abuses and corruptions of it.” Noah Webster, History of the United States (New Haven: Durrie & Peck, 1832), p. 339.

  To interpret the Treaty to mean anything else is pure ignorance and corruption. A second Treaty was signed on July 4, 1805 superseding the Treaty from 1796. The Treaty from 1805 didn’t contain the phrase “not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion.”

• Which Famed Christian Pastor Just Issued This Shocking Gay Marriage Endorsement?

  March 19, 2013 at 7:58pm

  In reply to hauschild.

  I don’t eat shellfish. I believe the Bible 100%. I don’t apologize for God, I didn’t write his word. The Bible has no punishment for eating shellfish or wearing cloths of different threads. Sodomy, like adultery and murder, does. These other minor precepts are about principles and lessons for how we should conduct ourselves and interact with our neighbor. They are for our edifying. We should be holy and clean, set apart from the world.

  “Say I these things as a man? or saith not the law the same also? For it is written in the law of Moses, Thou shalt not muzzle the mouth of the ox that treadeth out the corn. Doth God take care for oxen? Or saith he it altogether for our sakes? For our sakes, no doubt, this is written: that he that ploweth should plow in hope; and that he that thresheth in hope should be partaker of his hope.”

  “And [Jesus] entered again into the synagogue; and there was a man there which had a withered hand. And they watched him, whether he would heal him on the sabbath day; that they might accuse him. And he saith unto the man which had the withered hand, Stand forth. And he saith unto them, Is it lawful to do good on the sabbath days, or to do evil? to save life, or to kill? But they held their peace. And when he had looked round about on them with anger, being grieved for the hardness of their hearts, he saith unto the man, Stretch forth thine hand. And he stretched it out: and his hand was restored whole as the other.”

• Which Famed Christian Pastor Just Issued This Shocking Gay Marriage Endorsement?

  March 19, 2013 at 4:28pm

  In reply to katzkiner.

  “And as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man. They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed them all. Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded; But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all. Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.” – Luke 17

• Which Famed Christian Pastor Just Issued This Shocking Gay Marriage Endorsement?

  March 19, 2013 at 3:08pm

  In reply to hauschild.

  Those who identify themselves as homosexual have a mental illness or psychological disorder, and/or are plagued with a perverse culture and/or depraved society.

  “Love” alone doesn’t justify a thing. This pastor is an idiot for stating that because of “love” he endorses that form of union.

  “Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him. For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world. And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever. Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time. They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.” – 1 John 3