2WHITEFANG This chapter proves the Watchtower which you are a member of to be a false prophet
Matthew 24:25 Behold, I have told you before.
26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.
27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
The Watchtower claims that Christ came back invisible and secretly in 1914 , this verse states don't believe it plus the Watchtower has prophesied many dates for Armageddon such as 1975
thanks whitefang / blacktooth for showing the watchtower is a false prophet !
The secret chambers referred to in Matthew were the inner apartments of the Temple , the watchtower claims Christ came back invisibly in 1914 to His spiritual Temple . Again the watchtower proves they are false prophets
August 27, 2015 at 2:18pm
Even though a home owner purchases and install a mail box, he does not own it. The Post Office owns and controls it for government sponsored mail to be delivered to you.
For this reason, it is against the law to insert flyers or pamphlets in a mail box.
Jehovah’s Witnesses may at times leave a pamphlet at the door if the householder is not home, this is lawful to do.
don't set dates like the Watchtower did with 1975
 August 27, 2015 at 11:12am
When parents first lay their eyes on their beloved baby, their hopes and dreams for the child is only good and pleasant. But as the years go by, the child can grow into a man possessing evil ways and the parents are devastated. Some people do not respond to righteous ways.
August 21, 2015 at 11:24am
He did not offend his listeners. His speech was always appropriate, not loud and ‘in your face’. He loved them.
Obviously you have not read the bible. He really gave it to the Pharisees on more than one occasion and at the Temple he turned tables over and took a whip to the money changers.
They didn't crucify Him for politeness. The world is offended by truth, as evidenced by your average Democrat today.
whitefang is a JW they deny the bodily resurrection of Jesus, they believe Jesus is Michael a created entity, they deny that Jesus is your Saviour according to them only 144,000 have Jesus as their mediator , they have made hundreds of false prophecies so they are false prophets according to the Bible if you make one false prophecy in the name of the Lord then you are not of God.
Whitefang is making this statement to discourage people like me from speaking out because I am in his face
@deeberj ....God's word at Colossians 4:6 states "Let your words be gracious, seasoned with fine salt, so that you will know how you should answer each person."
"deeberj" I think Whitefang is very knowledgeable when it comes to the Bible and "georgeharrisong" Jesus was put to death in the flesh but made alive in the spirit. (1 Peter 3:18) Don't forget that flesh and blood can not inherit God's Kingdom.(1 Corinthians 15:50)
So, he was silent while clearing the temple? Or did he whisper to the crowd of thousands at Galilee? As a public orator in ancient times, his voice would have been full, and loud, or few would have heard his message.
How do you know? Where you there? Pretty sure he was not using a loud speaker ..
He did not offend his listeners. His speech was always appropriate, not loud and 'in your face'. He loved them.
Jesus offended many and does today. Just mention the name Jesus and see the reaction, it can be a soft whisper or a quiet prayer and many will be offended. Unless you choose to curse using the name of Jesus then they would not be offended, You may say that Jesus wouldn't want his message proclaimed over a loud speaker. But it was Jesus who said, "If they were silent, then the rocks will cry out my name:.
As Kaoscontrol pointed out, Jesus was crucified for what he said - so obviously some people were offended ..
Yeah he did and he got nailed for it.
Re: "Jesus did not offend others with loud speech" - The Holy Bible says otherwise. IF there was a noise law 2K years ago, you can bet he would have been charged for it.
 August 21, 2015 at 10:59am
Do those scriptures indicate, or lead us, to adopt the Trinity Doctrine?
Who thought up the fourth century apostate Trinity Doctrine?
Would that be the Catholic church? You know, the ones that preach Mary is the mother of God?
These scriptures don't speak of the Trinity. I take it that you believe that some commentators invented the Trinity? Actually, the divinity of the Messiah is so firmly established in the Old and New Testaments that it's even embedded in the Ancient Hebrew language.
Gen. 1:1 says "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth." The Hebrew word translated "In the beginning" is "Barasheet," which is spelled Bet Resh Alpeh Shin Yod Tav. The original Ancient Hebrew letters mean: Son God destroyed hand cross. So, the first word in Genesis is a prophesy of the sacrifice of the Son of God with his hands on a cross. That's confirmed by Rev. 13:8 "..from the foundation of the world in the book of life of the Lamb who has been slain."
The next word that's translated "God" is "Elohim," which is plural, and it's followed by two untranslated letters, Aleph Tav. The Ancient Hebrew letter Aleph is the first letter in the alphabet and is a bull's head, which was a sacrificial animal, and it means "God". The letter Tav is the last letter in their alphabet and is a cross, and I means "covenant". This dovetails with Rev. 1:8 because the first and last letters of the Greek alphabet are Alpha and Omega, and Rev. 1:8 says “I am the Alpha and the Omega,” says the Lord God, “who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty.”
And if you don't believe that Jesus created the heavens and earth, read Colossians 1:16 which says "For by Him all things were created, both in the heavens and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities-- all things have been created through Him and for Him." And John 1:1-3 "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was with God in the beginning. Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made
Since the word Trinity is not found in scripture it came from a source outside the bible the same church that put the bible together historically that' was the Catholic Church.
Again the concept of the trinity of there being one God but three individual Gods at the same time each one independent God at the same time is a teaching from the CC only. Thia is true because scripture has it the teac hing authority was given to the CC.1 Corinthians 12:28 "God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers" So God says, the Bible says, the word of God says these are the people who will lead us to the truth.
First, your description of the Trinity isn't one that I recognize. There aren't three individual Gods. The Father, Son and Holy Spirit are three aspects of the one and only God. Just as human beings are mind, body and spirit, and yet we aren't three separate creatures. These three aspects of our nature together are expressions of one human creature.
I share your distrust for any church that sets themselves above the Law, prophets and apostles (and for any church that claims to be the only true church and all others are false). However, the real issue here is the ideas behind the word "Trinity" and not the word itself.
The argument that the word "Trinity" doesn't appear in the Bible would work, if anyone was claiming that it does. The argument is that the concept of the Trinity is clearly seen in scripture, and not the word itself. Rejecting this begs the question, what is the nature of a "creature" Jesus, if he's not divine? Is he a man? An angel stuffed into a man's body? Something else?
And once you choose a type of "creature," you're stuck with many problems to answer. How do you reconcile these?
-The OT says that God created the universe. The NT says that Jesus created the universe.
-The NT says Jesus created everything that was created. Yet you claim that he was created.
-The OT and NT say to only worship and pray to God. But Jesus accepts worship and prayers.
-The NT says that Jesus is the visible image of the invisible God.
-When Philip said show us the Father, Jesus basically asked him don't you know me? If you've seen me, you've seen the Father.
-The Jews tried to kill Jesus many times for making himself equal to God, and Jesus never once correct anyone on this point.
-Jesus claimed to be I AM several times, even saying that those who don't believe this will die in their sins. And when he said "Before Abraham was, I AM," they tried to kill him again, and he didn't contradict their idea.
-Jesus said "I and the Father are one," and they tried to kill him for blasphemy, and he didn't contradict their idea.
Also, do you believe that God's Holy Spirit is divine? Is so, then you're halfway to believing the Trinity. If not, how could it be that God is divine, but his Spirit isn't?
spaceman “First, your description of the Trinity isn’t one that I recognize” Are you infallible? What authority do you process that claims you are right in your man madeinterpretation of the bible that I must follow you above the one true church?
Of course I'm not infallible. Jesus is the only infallible human, and anyone else who claims to be is a liar.
If you joined a church that claimed to be the "one true" church, you did so by exercising your free will for the last time. Such places demand unquestioned obedience, with flattery. You say the "Trinity" is unbiblical? Well, you'll never know now because you cannot read God's word (and be led by God's Spirit) for yourself again. You gave that blessed, God given right up when you joined an UNBIBLICAL organization that calls itself the "one true church". Such places always provide books that THEY write to supplement and override God's word,
The biblical model of the Church is multiple, separate, churches, each operated by fallible people. Every organization that sets itself up as God's sole authority on earth is a cult. Such cults don't dispense salvation. Only God does that, and he dies so in an personal, individual basis.
I hope you break free and accept that Jesus is I AM, as *he* so clearly claimed in GOD'S word.
Spaceman you admit that you are “Of course I’m not infallible.” Them what makes your interpretation right above anyone’s ??? The more Christian thing to had said is that being that you are not infallible you must and could be wrong! That obviously mean that I could be right!
Your assertion that nobody is infallible is true, so I could be wrong about anything, including this. However, it's up to you to prove that I'm wrong with an actual argument. You've failed to answer my questions or even adress many of the assertions that I've made.
For example, if Jesus is a creature, how do you reconcile that with the fact that he created everything that's ever been created?
And did you know that God's personal name, Jehovah, in the original Ancient Hebrew letters is Yud Hey Vav Hey, and that the individual letters literally mean "Behold hand, behold nail"? This obviously points to Jesus. As I already cited, the first word in Genesis prophesies that the Son of God will die with his hands on a cross (the sign of covenant), then it says the "AT (Alpha Omega) Elohim" created the heavens and the earth. And now the personal name of God is Jesus' hands with nails.
Would you like to know how the name "Elohim" expresses the idea of the Trinity, too?
By the way, the tactic of rewording someone else's statements (or beliefs) in an argument is called a "straw man fallacy," and it not only makes for an illogical argument, but it's dishonest. And that's what your church has done by telling people that the Trinity is three separate Gods.
Because they only attack their own personal definition of the Trinity and not actual doctrine that's taught by Christians, it's impossible for them to make any headway towards refuting it. You have to address some idea before you can refute it.
Hi Whitefang/Blacktooth/Begreen/ Torakuuntenshu/ yellowfin /oldtrucker/ etc Your organization the watchtower has made many false prophecies in the past, yiou do not even believe in the bodily resurrection of Christ or that He is the saviour , in your belief He is only the mediator of 144,000. You have put blinders on and you teach corruption . 1975 was supposed to be armageddon according to the watchtower , your organization in their own words = https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oaXbBVVoeEQ
Right you are.
In fact, God's Messiah is nothing like the "brother of satan," as protrayed by Jehovah's Witnesses. He's the only begotten son of God, in a similar fashion that Eve was the only begotten mate of Adam. Both begotten beings have the same nature as their progenitors.
 August 21, 2015 at 10:31am
Well said PastorSteve.
 August 21, 2015 at 10:29am
It appeals to vanity, they say ‘I want everything to be about – ME ‘
 August 21, 2015 at 10:16am
Is Jesus Christ, God the Father? Or is he God’s son?
Who sent him to earth? John 3:16-17, 6:38, 14:28, Luke 3:21
Giving me “thumbs down” does not cancel the question’s validity.
[-3] August 20, 2015 at 2:48pm
Is Jesus God?
Christendom’s religion’s says he is, but what does the Bible say?
Yeah. I've never seen any evidence that evolution can "produce" anything. It's a quality control mechanism that checks for defects in the genetic assembly line. Nothing more. Nothing less.
People attribute WAY too much creative power to evolution, especially when they think it's some kind of magical force that can create life.
Scientists dropping spiders from trees.
I guess they need to get published.
Evolution is driven by The Designer.
 August 14, 2015 at 10:49am
A baker who wouldn’t make a wedding cake for a same-sex couple cannot cite his religious beliefs in refusing them service.
Why not? Why are some afraid of the consequences of declaring their principles?
Yes, there may be real punishments for adhering to Godly principles, but what else can a man of principle do? He has to stand. He is willing to take the slaps and the humiliation because he loves God.
Did Jesus Christ cave under the authority of of the Pharisee’s or of the governor when on trial? No, he stood there, with dignity. He was a MAN!
There is no right to discriminate. People discriminate to subjugate others because they believe that they are better than the person they are discriminating against. All of these business owners chose to discriminate, knowing that it is a violation of their local laws. This is no different than a muslim baker who chooses to discriminate against a Christian, because of their religion.
Sandman - "There is no right to discriminate."
Where did you get that idea? People have always discriminated against things, and people who are unseemly or gross.
Whitefang you said a relationship with God you know darn right well that the Watchtower teaches that only 144,000 people can call Jesus their Saviour
 August 2, 2015 at 11:01am
All life, from insect to animal to mankind is not to be taken for granted as if we deserve to be alive.
Life is a gift from God, the One who created it all. If we respect God’s creations we will give him honor, if not, we callously disregard the beauty of life’s creatures and kill and murder what Jehovah God has lovingly created.
Life is a gift, let us use our existence for good and to be kind to all forms of life.