Oh do ‘wax-on’ some more about Plantation Master Obama for us – would you PLEASE?
Do tell us all how blacks are incapable “of ever fighting for anything” or of respecting the freedom they have because they did not fight for their freedom from slavery – “something [that] really stupid happened”.
Do tell us how “The slaves were given their freedom like some kind of entitlement.”
Can you please expand on “This invisible anxiety and lack that black people have is something that bothers them deeply and they just don’t understand it so they just feel a kind of anger in themselves and a sense that they need to set things right.”
And tell us more about the white man. Tell us HOW / WHY “white people are unknowingly helping them because of the guilt they feel for giving them their freedom. They know inside that freedom is not freedom if you did not fight for it.”
Tell us how “when a Monk wants to know where something came from … we use this law and simply look at what something is or where it came from.”
That law? “What something is, is what it extends”.
What extends from “F the f’ing f’ers” Monk-Man?
[-20] March 30, 2015 at 11:35pm
Are you / do you feel terrorized by our president Proverbs?
If so – how so?
Related… Are you able to identify anything specific that causes you to call Bergdhal a terrorist?
[-25] March 30, 2015 at 11:30pm
Let me again point out how the conservative mind works on matters like this using the judicial, and religious (and pundit) examples again.
Rule in favor of the way a conservative thinks and… You’re a strict constitutionalist judge
Rule against the way a conservative thinks and… You’re an activist judge.
Present a belief in the same god/religious values as ‘I’ and… You’re a True Christian
Interpret your god/religious beliefs in a manner I disagree with and… You are NOT a Christian at all.
If you’re a pundit and speak-up for a conservative principle or support a beloved fellow conservative and… You’re a true conservative
Don’t follow lock-step on every conservative principle or speak-out against a beloved conservative and… YOU’RE WRONG!
Gotta love the simpleton logic of the conservative mind.
Zappa, I know you probably get off on all the negative thumbs down you get. Have you ever taken a step back, and in a moment of true humility thought that maybe the reason you are getting all the negative reactions is because your grasp on reality is rather lacking? If not, then perhaps you should seek some measure of humility and rethink much of what you say. After all, what you are doing now doesn’t seem to be working much for you.
Let me again point out what a complete moron you are. If you have sex with someone of the same sex you are living an "alternative lifestyle". If you choose to wait until marriage and only have sex with one person you are a "religious bigot". If you shoot a large black man that is charging you then you are a "racist cop" but if you puncture a baby's skull and suck its brains from its head you are just "choosing". Wow kid. You really constantly outdo yourself. Liberals have no morals. Liberals have no principles. Liberals do not love this country and never have. Liberals hate the constitution because it limits government and you people are too weak to make it on your own. Go "protest" something while the rest of us work to pay for you and your parents to have a cell phone and food stamps. LOL.
Hey I tell you what we should do. We should all start upvoting all of her posts. Her head would explode. LOL!
The most difficult thing in life is to be simple, simplicity requires that the individual takes responsibility for his actions, but the pain will always spread, I may know in my simple way that a man should suffer and may know it's just and be willing to suffer with him. But suffer he must because that's life.
I have one word Zapparules to replace your paragraph.
That's what "conservatives" are. They flip flop all day long to try to justify their opinions and stances against anything they deem "liberal" or "Progressive"
Lose the Zappa reference in your name. You are a moron, Frank was a genius. Your logic follows lock step with brain disorders of the liberal mind. Bend over and keep it greasy! Are you tired of getting plucked yet.
 March 30, 2015 at 4:24pm
The basic concept is pretty simple.
Do we allow – codify into law – the ability to discriminate on the basis of sexual orientation?
IF – as the right seems to argue – it is a Right of religious freedom / expression for a business to be able to discriminate / refuse the sale of goods or services, then…
Where does that take us?
Will a Jewish deli owner be able to refuse sales to Christians?
Will a Muslim taxi driver be able to refuse a fare from a Buddhist?
Will a Scientoligist business owner be able to “disconnect” and refuse selling product or service from… Anyone?
Will a Hindu doctor be able to refuse treatment to a Muslim emergency room patient?
We’re not just talking about baking cakes and taking pictures here people.
We are talking about the possibility of wide-scale discrimination because of one’s indiscriminate applying of ‘religious conviction’.
Is that the kind of ‘living together’ / ‘accepting that people are different and celebrate true diversity’ you’re talking about Glenn?
“It has nothing to do with anything that is real.”
Tell that to the homosexuals (and any others) who are / will be discriminated against because of this (and similar) laws.
If you are going to operate a business in the public marketplace… ALL your customers have the right to expect the same EQUAL level of service / availability to goods.
Zappa, your argument isn't quite nuanced enough. No one is arguing that anyone can be discriminated against simply because they are gay, or black, or white, or jewish, or christian. A baker can't decline to bake a cake simply because the patron is gay. That would be discrimination, and it has no religious or moral sentiment to back it up. What people are arguing is that you shouldn't be able to coerce someone to perform a service when that service directly forces them to participate in an act that their religion deems sinful, or that they themselves feel goes against their moral fiber. Just like you shouldn't be able to force a black baker to bake a cake for the KKK that shows a black man being hanged, or you should't be able to force a gay photographer to take publicity pictures for the Westboro Baptist Church while they hold "God hate f**s" signs, you shouldn't be able to force a Christian to participate in a gay wedding. This is supposed to be a capitalist society. If people don't agree with your moral stance and actions as a business, let the free market take care of their destruction. It's not the government's job.
I just don't believe that business owners should have to give up their rights to own property, associate or disassociate with whoever they wish and practice religion however they want. But I understand that for some idiotic reason this is an unpopular opinion, especially among progressives.
"If you are going to operate a business in the public marketplace… ALL your customers have the right to expect the same EQUAL level of service / availability to goods."
This notion that because one opens a business to sell goods to the "public" equals the public can dictate the rules of it's operation is absurd. Of course, it has been propagandized into our minds for generations, but it is nonsense, nonetheless. There is no compelling reason why the "public" has any claim over the private property of the business owner. The business owner has every right to determine whom he agrees to work with and vice versa.
Amendment I “shall make no law respecting religion or the free exercise thereof “ends ends any interference by GLADD or government! Amendment 14 “No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges and immunities…” backs it up with enforcement! Amendment 4 “Right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects… shall not be violated” eliminates one forcing their will on another.
Each and every judge, legislator, and all other officials are oath/duty bound to defend the Constitution against any enemy of it with true faith and allegiance, without any reservation, as supreme law above all other man made law according to Article 6. Amendment 14-3/4/5 provides for banning oath bound officials from office & applies personal liability. Violations by any oath bound official or judge is an act of treason! Treason includes aiding and abetting enemies of the Country/Constitution, best identified by the massive Constitution attacks by “progressives” (Article III Section3). The elite “535” are not “defending”!
[-2] March 30, 2015 at 1:19pm
Self-censorship is the ‘best’ censorship there is.
Talk about closing one’s mind…
 March 30, 2015 at 12:44pm
You as a homosexual are not against this Indiana law because it (seemingly) allows for discrimination against gays BUT RATHER “simply because it is a law being used to “fix” a bad law.”
And sorry for my ignorance but… What / which bad law is this law supposedly trying to fix?
So do you believe homosexual discrimination should be allowed? That… On the basis of ‘religious freedom’ anyone of any faith – operating a business in the public marketplace – should be able to refuse sale/service to anyone else on such grounds???
And I’m not talking just about baking cakes and taking pictures.
What happens if this law is applied in a much more ‘critical’ situation – say when an alternative provider is not readily available or… even in a life and death situation?
Say a Christian doctor or other medical expert is needed to give immediate service to someone who’s ‘lifestyle’ goes against that doctor’s religious beliefs? So is it OK for that doctor to say: ‘Sorry. I do not treat homosexuals. You’ll have to wait for the next doctor.’
My position is… If you operate a business / provide services in the ‘public market’ then you are to be required to offer and provide the services or goods you ‘sell’ to ALL people equally. (If you want to discriminate… Become a private entity – like a club or similar.)
I for one do not view this as but a “disagreement”. I view this as an affront to the core belief that… ‘ALL men are created equal’.
March 30, 2015 at 12:21pm
Since being raised in a large, strong Catholic family… After having attended Christian-affiliated schools for over 20+ years… (I even studied Latin in college) After my wife and I have sent our son to a Catholic school… After remaining active to this day with many Christian/Catholic and other faith-based institutions and activities…
I feel I am able to say I have a pretty good understanding of the Christian faith.
And regardless of my ‘expertise’ (or lack there of) in the religion (or any religion)… I understand that ALL such faiths are but PERSONAL INTERPRETATIONS of what each person has been exposed to.
And important to note…
I do NOT tell others what they believe.
If you care to look at my history and search for such… Have at it but… Such will be a failed search as, again, I do NOT tell people what they believe.
I ASK them… WHY do they believe what they believe.
Care to see examples of someone being told what they believe? I could present you example after example after example from folks challenging me and directly telling me what I supposedly believe.
How many posts of Proverbs have you actually read?
If even a few, it would become apparent to you too that… Proverbs knows not what “reasonable” is. He knows not ‘sensible limitations’.
I would offer that 95% of his posts are but troll-like attempts to INTENTIONALLY offend those he obviously has little actual understanding of – let alone anything like empathy.
[-8] March 30, 2015 at 11:54am
And who POSTED meaningless gibberish you need a foo language translation guide to even try and understand?
Come on foo.
Aren’t you excited that King Obama is returning to the Motherland where he was born and raised to become a radical Islamist Marxist, Socialist Communist American-hating tyrannical leader?
I thought you’d be happy for Obama.
[-1] March 29, 2015 at 2:34am
Redline29: “Should you be forced into doing something you do not believe in?”
Did you think of that one all by yourself?
You might want / need to read your own statement over and over to yourself a few times but… My guess is you might finally grasp the utter ignorance of that statement.
Fill in the blanks Redline29
I do not believe in _____________
Yet I am required to ______________ – so I can live I society.
 March 29, 2015 at 2:27am
Marnin: “I don’t understand why he is suddenly “embattled” or why everyone is calling the law “controversial”.
Because while Pence tried to hide the activation of this Act, it had to ultimately be reveled to the public and now that it has… The majority realizes the utter failure – codification of intolerance and discrimination – allowed by the act.
The bill was not kept quiet. Just the signing of the bill into law was done in a closed ceremony. The voting public in Indiana knew of the bill. I will admit that I am not fond of the closed ceremony by Pence any more than I am not fond of the 0bama administration doing the same thing. Or, any state or federal admin as far as that goes.
No worse than Shrillary Clinton hiding her emails from the public and the government. Why all of a sudden are lefties concerned about "transparency" in the government? We haven't had transparency in government for 6 years.
[-4] March 29, 2015 at 2:21am
So being gay is like being a Nazi – eh 13th Imam?
 March 29, 2015 at 2:19am
Can you cite the real world cases where any gay or gays have ‘sued them into poverty’?
Google is your friend, They actually went to a Christian tee shirt company and baited them with a shirt, knowing it was a CHRISTIAN TEE SHIRT COMPANY that only printed shirts with Christian phrases, so don't come here with that.
 March 29, 2015 at 2:18am
BRILLIANT rebuttal TheGrtDcptn!
March 29, 2015 at 2:12am
I have never met a person like you in ‘real’ life. Someone who I knew by name or… ‘in-person’ experience.
Do you really exist in the world outside of the anonymous (Blaze) blog-o-sphere?
Does anyone in the ‘outside’ world – who knows your real given name – hear you speak with such consistent…
Disdain for that which you are so obviously ignorant of?
I can’t think of a single human I have ever met from who I have heard so much… IGNORANCE – who then was able to actually function in the real world.
EVERY person I have ever known in my life that was even remotely ‘capable’ of spewing but a Fraction of the ignorance you Proverbs do on a daily basis has either…
Become aware of their utterly anti-social behavior and reconnected with reality – OR…
Gone on to take their ‘show on the road’. As in… The road to nowhere. As in…
Time to see if your act plays in the big tent.
You Proverbs are but a dying breed.
A relic of hatred, ignorance and intolerance.
Your greatest achievement in life may well be the anonymous motivating to victory of the very people and beliefs you are so challenged by.
And for that I thank you.
 March 29, 2015 at 1:45am
In 1500 characters or less…
Please properly represent this law to us if you can.
(Actually… Feel free to take as many characters as you wish.)
[-5] March 29, 2015 at 1:39am
Kind of reminds me of a song…
“Setting me up just to knock-a knock-a knock-a me down
Down, down, down
I’m going down, down, down, down
I’m going down, down, down, down
I’m going down, down, down, down”
Zappar, Quoting Springsteen now. I did read your straw man posts from last night. Rather humorous although ridiculous. Did you think that up all by yourself?
Thanks to gay agenda, this country is going down.
March 28, 2015 at 7:29pm
You sound a little bitter.
I guess I might be upset if my intolerance was being attacked / sought to be legally reduced.
When that business is one where there is not another ‘local one near by… When that service becomes potentially life or death…
Then will you stand by as you or your loved one is discriminated against / service refused?
This is about FAR MORE than cakes and pictures.
What’s to stop someone from refusing life-saving services on the grounds that such goes against their religious expression freedoms?
‘Oh. You’re a Muslim in a bad car wreak. Too bad. I don’t ‘sell’ my life-saving services to Muslims. You’ll have to wait for the next doctor to see you.’
‘Oh. You’re a Christian in a bad car wreak. Too bad. I don’t ‘sell’ my life-saving services to Christians . You’ll have to wait for the next doctor to see you. IF you last that long. Good luck.’
 March 28, 2015 at 7:09pm
Curious. How does one KNOW when it is a gay (or other sinner) that is seeking to be a customer of theirs?
In other words… How many other sinners are you / these other businesses / people actually doing business with without ever knowing it / caring about it?
You all are but HUGE hypocrites when it comes to this matter.
 March 28, 2015 at 7:06pm
Tanker135mechanic: “I see you have to twist words in order to make your point.”
After just having seen your post to me… Now that is funny!
Twisting my words to TRY and suggest that I “think beheading someone for not accepting Muslim law is the same as declining to take someone’s business”
Twisting my words to TRY and content that I said limited govt was THE core conservative principle.
“tell me how a gay couple is damaged by having to go to a nonChristian bakery”
THE PRINCIPLE of it all is FAR MORE reaching than just the ‘damage’ done to a gay couple or person being denied service at a particular business.
THAT you and others don’t realize that IS THE core of the differences here on this matter.
So let’s say one refuses to give medical treatment to a gay on the grounds of ‘religious expression’…
Then what kind of ‘damage’ might result from that?
Say there is only a single provider of a certain business in an area and they refuse service to a gay – or to ANYONE (based on religious expression)…
Then what kind of ‘damage’ might result from that?
You think this is just about cakes and pictures???
You couldn’t be more ignorant – AND wrong.
“I am inconvenienced when the store I want to buy from doesn’t take American Express – but do I cry discrimination?”
Why is that not discrimination? (I can’t believe I even need to explain this._
BECAUSE such applies to ALL customers! That’s why.