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zapparules

Member Since: September 24, 2012

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  • October 20, 2014 at 2:04pm

    watchingitall
    See my post about slavery
    Our constitution and laws are not based on a certain god belief or book associated with such and so… Arguments that attempt to place ‘religious freedoms or rights’ ahead of U.S. law-specific freedoms and rights simply ‘do not cut it’.
    Unless some of you are willing to argue that say, Sharia law should have an ‘equal standing’ with your god’s laws AND our nations laws, well…

  • [1] October 20, 2014 at 1:58pm

    RabidPatriot
    Excellent summation of the issue

  • [1] October 20, 2014 at 1:45pm

    So if one holds that it is their religious belief / right to own slaves… Does that mean that form of religious expression is to be allowed?

    So why do some on the right attempt to argue that when a certain form of discrimination is outlawed (just as slavery was) – do they think their right to religious freedom still gives them the right to break those laws and discriminate (in the public marketplace)?

    The bible justifies slavery. So why no arguments that slavery is but a form of religious freedom / expression.
    WHY?
    Because our country is founded and operates under the laws as defined by its people and their leaders – NOT by the ‘laws’ as identified in the bible or by some god belief.

  • [-2] October 20, 2014 at 1:40pm

    My feeling that this section was going to become a mostly MONK-free section seems to be panning out.

  • [-2] October 20, 2014 at 1:38pm

    Tachy320
    Do you know anything about that area where Obama was talking?
    Apparently not.

  • October 20, 2014 at 1:29pm

    foo
    As I noted above… CT is simply DECLARING what the state of Texas is already DOING – applying the ‘right’ to quarantine in a state of (medical) emergency.
    And so… Is TX not the first practitioner of the overreach you seem to be railing against?
    And so… Where is your anger / attack against Gov. Perry and the state of TX for their apparent govt overreach?

  • October 20, 2014 at 1:25pm

    foo
    You do know the great state of Texas has had a number of people in quarantine – right?
    So how is what CT is proclaiming any different than what TX is currently doing?

  • October 20, 2014 at 12:01pm

    Tuma
    Where are the first-hand interviews with those who supposedly left in disgust?

  • October 20, 2014 at 11:59am

    So barber2
    Are you acknowledging that some would vote for Obama simply be cause he is black?
    By doing so you must then acknowledge that some would NOT vote for him simply because he is black.

  • [-2] October 20, 2014 at 11:43am

    Tuma
    Ohhhhhhh. So there are pictures of bleachers emptying out and that proves when and where and why.
    “NOTHING from anyone who left early. If you watched that report, you would have thought the whole crowd, which was all black ADORED him!”
    EXACTLY!
    You see how it was reported locally one way. (And to note: ‘Locally’ this area is one where Obama had one of his highest vote percentage totals so…. He was, at least was – well liked by most in the area.)
    TheBlaze and some others (conservative media) report it another way.
    Somewhere in-between is the reality.

  • October 20, 2014 at 11:32am

    I wasn’t suggesting that anything as complex as this matter be addressed with but a simple Yes or No response. What I read instead was, to me, a pastoral ‘leader’ who seemed unwilling to offer his / his church’s interpretation of some biblical text that they apparently seem to follow – but without specificity.

    Was this pastor unwilling to say gays are totally unwelcome in his church? Or unwilling to say they ARE welcome in his church?
    Seems to me he was evading this?

    It is one thing to present that you / your church stand behind the man-woman marriage ideal. It is another to suggest that all gays are not welcomed in your church and that they bring nothing of value to a congregation.
    It seems pretty easy, to me, to quickly, easily offer a position on the former while… Taking a position on the latter is… far more complex.

    90 minute sermon?
    Wow.
    And some call me long-winded.
    I like a recent quote I just heard: ‘He gets to writing and is just to lazy to stop.’
    I can relate to that.

  • [16] October 20, 2014 at 11:20am

    “While some might be wondering why ordained ministers are purportedly being forced to marry gay couples, consider that the Hitching Post Wedding Chapel, which opened in 1989, is a for-profit business, which means that it is not exempt from local non-discrimination regulations.”

    This is all I had to read in the article to understand why the legal action against this SUPPOSED Christian Chapel.
    Operate as a for-profit business then expect to be required to follow all the laws regulating such operations.
    Want to ‘escape’ such laws… Do ‘business’ as a ‘real non-profit’ church.

  • October 20, 2014 at 11:16am

    How about seeking some interviews with those who left Monk-Man?
    Is that the kind of audio you are talking about?
    Maybe seek to find out DIRECTLY from those who left early WHY they left early.
    Wouldn’t hearing what they have to say be more valuable than just seeing some video?

  • [-6] October 20, 2014 at 11:13am

    Guess what Monk-Man?

    Maybe you and others could do a bit more research on this event and the actual details of such before so blindly claiming / sheepishly agreeing with JUST what was reported here – as IF it were some big ‘walk out’ on the president – done so in disgust.

    From quick research I did I see reports that this was a PACKED event with overflow people directed to a certain area – an area of people that Obama and Brown visited BEFORE giving their talks AND… that heat and lack of sound may have also played into their early departure.

    I am curious why NO direct personal interviews with those who left – SUPPOSEDLY in disgust with the president.
    If that was the case… I think those folks would have been ‘ripe’ to interview by members of the right/conservative media outlets – so then they would have actual proof of why they left and why they are supposedly disgusted by Obama.
    But did that little bit of critical journalism take place?
    No!
    So all this ‘additional’ speculative ‘reporting’ on these folks leaving early is just that… Speculation.

    Monk-Man…
    Are you going to look at the additional details I have just offered and respond to such or are you going to simply follow like a sheep the little detail and LOTS of speculation that has been presented here?
    Will you just ignore someone willing to engage you Monk?
    Just what is your evaluation of this event?

    I have a feeling it is going to be a mostly ‘ignore the reality’ response by Monk-Man.

  • [-1] October 20, 2014 at 10:59am

    Also reported elsewhere but not here at TheBlaze and some other conservatives sights was this…
    ““So I’m going to make a long speech in there. But I had to come to the folks who didn’t get a seat. Because this is a group right here that is truly enthusiastic,” Obama said to much applause from the excited overflow crowd, which POOL reported “included more than a few shrieking women and girls.”
    “President Obama campaigned for gubernatorial candidate Anthony Brown in Maryland Sunday afternoon to a sold out crowd of 8,000, according to the Upper Marlboro Fire Marshall. This meant there were folks waiting in the Wise High School overflow room/gym, so POTUS was kind enough to stop in there and address them before the rally.”
    “Yes, it was odd (because see update, it was folks from the overflow room who weren’t allowed to stay who were leaving), but it wasn’t a narrative about Obama, unless you willfully disregard the shrieking and the sold out rally and the overflow necessity.”

  • [4] October 20, 2014 at 10:56am

    Maybe TheBlaze could report MORE NEEDED DETAIL on this event.
    Like how some who actually left contest how it was reported. That some of those leaving early reported that they were in an overflow room where “Obama and Brown had both been in the overflow room first. Lewis also claimed there was no audio in that room so people left.”

    Or how the event was reported this way: “the crowd was energetic in waiting for the president and in welcoming him to the stage, but once the president started speaking, the crowd began streaming out, a few at first, but then by the dozen once Obama was about 10 minutes into his talk. Still, the vast majority of the large crowd stayed for the full event.”

    And to be ‘fair and balanced’ I will also report that Lewis also twittered: “Secret Service kept us till POTUS left.”
    What the heck is that about?

    Bottom line…
    A lot of folks did show up to hear the president speak. I see reports that it was a “packed house with an overflow crowd”
    Some – perhaps a lot – did indeed leave early.
    WHY?
    THAT was NOT properly reported.

    The president’s approval rating IS very low. And rightfully so.
    And perhaps if some of these so-called journalists reporting on this event would have taken a few moments to interview some of those who were leaving early… We might have better clarity on not only why they were leaving but if/why they perhaps are dissatisfied with the president.
    Since there is not one such first-hand interview… It is all speculation then.

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  • [11] October 20, 2014 at 10:35am

    Boy this guys speaks with such a lack of specificity that he’d probably make a good politician.
    Frankly… The leader of a mega-church almost certainly has many of the same ‘traits’ as that of a politician.

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  • [-1] October 20, 2014 at 10:31am

    So Zippy…
    Are you telling me you SUPPORT The World Health Organization AND the UN being OUR nation’s ‘security force’ – empowered to protect OUR citizens – by screening and when deemed, detaining them – during a possible pandemic???

    “Effort and visibility would certainly be better administered by those in Blue helmets!”
    Just what do you mean by that?

  • [-1] October 20, 2014 at 10:27am

    makingout
    The actual banning of folks from another country may not be too difficult or too costly to accomplish – when such is done at our air travel (and other main) border control check points however… It DOES indeed require an escalation is resources and costs – AND… it is far from fail-safe and there are other ports of entry into our country.

    And what I seem to keep bringing up and no one else here (or in supposed leadership positions like ole Teddy Cruz keep ignoring when they talk about this matter) are the other elements of a travel ban.
    Screening is one thing. A ban is another.
    Both have far greater ‘detail’ that must and should be discussed / considered – and I see none of that from many of our supposed leaders – and certainly not from most all who post here supporting such measures.

    SO I’m a windy bastard huh?
    Do you feel better calling others names? Do you think it increases support for your positions? And do you really think complex issues like this should just involve tiny snipits of discussion?
    No wonder folks like you PROBABLY support folks like Ted Cruz. Because supposed leaders like him just offer ‘red meat’ to their base without ever getting into the critical details of a matter. Folks like Cruz do a whole lot of complaining about others while failing to offer any detailed plans of their own.

  • October 20, 2014 at 12:50am

    foo
    Why the link to the story on the CT quarantine ruling?

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