It’s arrogant for a Christian, especially an anchor, to claim Allah is not God. However, if she had mentioned the statement the video leaves out, Mediate would have looked stupid for complaining. However, since she doesn’t appear to have said it at all, she’s the one looking stupid for arguing what didn’t happen. And she looks even more stupid trying to cover her ass.
I’m not sure if we’re arguing the same point here.
 May 21, 2015 at 5:09pm
Come back in an hour, count the comments and clicks, and you’ve got your answer.
[-4] May 21, 2015 at 5:07pm
Time/place, guys. Time_place.
But your reaction does not surprise me in the least.
[-10] May 21, 2015 at 4:36pm
I understand your point, disabledcovetern. However, I want you to honestly tell me if you’d feel the same had this kid been a Muslim and your child was sitting in the room as she talked about their faith.
Question my Christianity all you wish. I refuse to give in to this dribble. When Christians are truly being targeted, I’ll speak up. This is not one of those times.
As the saying goes, “the moving finger writes, and having writ, moves on.”
[-11] May 21, 2015 at 4:27pm
How does a t-shirt have anything in common with a presentation in class? How does “no Bible verses” translate to “Qur’an is OK”?
We have all seen the stories on Field Trips to mosques, girls asked to wear burqa's for a day, and school assignments on the koran. This is what people are referring to on this story. I guess some people need the pop up book with pictures... zorro?
t-shirts and presentations are both free speech..and that free speech put forth by Christians is often denied by lib teachers…never denied for a muslim…in fact islam is integrated into lesson planning…example…Florida and Texas
They explicitly stated that the two books considered holy by Christians and Mormons are prohibited, with the implication being that other books considered holy by other religions are not prohibited.
If I said to you, drinking alcohol is prohibited here, the implication is non-alcoholic beverages are permitted.
Time/place, guys. Time_place.
But your reaction does not surprise me in the least.
"How does a t-shirt have anything in common with a presentation in class?"
It is viewable to the whole class just like the PP presentation.
Your statement is invalid. Since "no Bible verses" was supposedly after the fact, and after the work was already done. So technically the student did additional work; compared to other students.
[-3] May 21, 2015 at 4:24pm
It may not be clearly obvious why but I think you know exactly why.
[-14] May 21, 2015 at 4:22pm
First, I wrote “we Christians”, so if you’re not a Christian, I wasn’t speaking about you. Second, it was a school assignment which she was going to present to the class. It’s, in fact, not a big deal to ask a student to leave this part out.
The fact is, if this kid had been a Muslim, you’d all be jumping down her throat for indoctrinating your kids. So yeah, this is exactly why these stories make us all look stupid.
 May 21, 2015 at 4:11pm
Or people who have never had to do it before.
When my brother got a boat, he spent a whole weekend back and forth on his driveway learning to back up so he didn’t “look like an idiot at the lake.” His strategy worked.
 May 21, 2015 at 4:03pm
If she didn’t read aloud those words, then the guy has every right to give her crap about it no matter how right we think she may be.
It is my American upbringing and my understanding of free speech.
Basically,anything can be discussed unless it is expressly prohibited.
According to the story, the Koran was not expressly prohibited -- so it would be allowed.
Get it now?
You are going around in circles on this one. Because the instructions was to broad and basic. And because they can’t get around the “FACT” that the instructions and presentation was about the students. Not what the teacher may wish to imply about the students.
That would be like giving instructions to the students titled, and to cover, or presentation to the class on: — ‘What did you learn during the Summer Break’. — You are just asking for it.
[-33] May 21, 2015 at 4:00pm
Let’s not get stupid. No one said they would be.
It’s time we Christians knock it off, too. This isn’t that big a deal and when we make these things a big deal, it makes us all look silly.
Silly is how we will look if we don't say anything and wake up tomorrow and see that the wold has changed in a way we do not approve of
I'm not a Christian, so I'm not part of your "we" in any way.
But this IS a big deal. Their faith in whatever religion is a MAJOR part of many people. Telling them that they must leave that part at home, out of any assignments at school, is completely unacceptable.
I went to school with Madalyn Murray O'Hair's granddaughter - she never said anything to us about her faith, whether she followed Grandma's beliefs or not - but it would not have been right to silence her in the classroom if she so wished.
Defending our God-endowed and Constitutional religious freedom is not "silly." Infringement on our religious freedom rights is snowballing.
"All about me" needs to allow things that are a part of her. A single scripture is not a captive audience nor is it a lecture, it is a part of who she is.
I question your "WE Christians" statement
First, I wrote "we Christians", so if you're not a Christian, I wasn't speaking about you. Second, it was a school assignment which she was going to present to the class. It's, in fact, not a big deal to ask a student to leave this part out.
The fact is, if this kid had been a Muslim, you'd all be jumping down her throat for indoctrinating your kids. So yeah, this is exactly why these stories make us all look stupid.
zorro, The affect of what this teacher did is the exact outcome that athiest teachers wish to have. She was afriad to include an important part of her self esteem becuase it was deemed wrong to include it... to a child this establishes a pattern and she will soon reject her faith becuase they make it increasingly more difficult to include it in her life.... you get it? it isn't silly to them at all.... it is their drive
I understand your point, disabledcovetern. However, I want you to honestly tell me if you'd feel the same had this kid been a Muslim and your child was sitting in the room as she talked about their faith.
Question my Christianity all you wish. I refuse to give in to this dribble. When Christians are truly being targeted, I'll speak up. This is not one of those times.
As the saying goes, "the moving finger writes, and having writ, moves on."
@zorro….normally i agree with you...but not this time....Christians do not behead..throw gays off buildings…stone women and hate Jews…islam is based on hate..murder and intolerance for any other religion…comparing Christianity to islam is like a comparing a diamond to a turd….we are a Christian nation…not a muslim nation…
Zorro, your assertion that if she had been muslim we would complain that they were indoctrinating our kids is way off base. It's indoctrination when the teachers teach it or promote it or bring in their very special Islamic guest speaker. If a kid is muslim and writes "All about me .." and talks about being muslim, I WOULDN'T EXPECT ANYTHING LESS. If we give up freedom of any religion we don't deserve freedom of our own but worse yet, they will have the right take our own.
This little girl is a Christian and it's important to her so "All about me .. " for her should never have the teacher having the right to censor it. Nothing in the Department of Education guidelines takes her right to self-expression away.
Isn't the Bible just another book according to non-believers? Given that, how is it a problem to simply quote a line from said book?
And how is "My quote is John 3:16, [state the verse] and here is why it is inspirational to me" subjecting anyone to religious beliefs?
Also, how is it that the Dept. of Ed. can overrule the US constitution?
This assignment seemed to simply ask for a phrase that gives the student inspiration. How could it possibly matter what the source of that phrase is?
Diversity my ***. The only diversity anyone is actually interested in has only to do with skin color. Other than that, "they" want everyone to be exactly the same. I challenge anyone to prove me wrong there.
I agree with you Zorro in the sense that we don't want to look like our perpetually offended and hyper-litigious militant atheist friends. But I think we also needn't back down from activitst liberal teachers. The precedent is well established in the education system that christians are being silenced and forced into the shadows by our militant atheist teacher and student friends there. If the child has been unfairly silenced by the teacher then that teacher (and his fellow militant atheists in the education system) need to know that we can play their game and win at it as well.
As I said in a previous post, if the presentation was about her, then the teacher got what she asked for. If this was such a big deal (to the teacher), then the students should have been given guidelines to follow. Not the student's fault, but the teacher"s (fault).
zorro, at first I also thought we should not be angry with the teacher. But then I realized that we can’t ‘knock it off’ even if we want to. We’re to spread the Good News and John 3:16 is the greatest of Good News. I don’t believe the little girl was intending to do evangelize on this occasion exactly, but if she meant to spread the Good News, she was doing what we all need to do. If we look silly when we stand up for our ability to do so, we will only look that way to those who will never change anyway. But there’s always that one or two who will hear and receive God’s Word and that is worth everything.
zorro, it absolutely IS a big deal. It's a HUGE deal.
Never let a lie go unchallenged. Always stand for the Truth.
May 21, 2015 at 2:13pm
Thanks, kaydeebeau. I was in the Air Force so I really don’t have a lot of weapons experience even though we qualified with the M-16 every year. I’m taking my daughter shooting this weekend so I’ll be sure we practice that.
May 21, 2015 at 2:01pm
“… three distinct and separate glorified beings…”
When they disagree, who is right?
 May 21, 2015 at 2:00pm
Why isn’t Fox News releasing the complete video where she said “There is no God that would ever condone any act of terror”? Why are they only releasing the text version?
The way I read the explanation, is that is was included in her 'script', but she did not actually read aloud those words.
If she didn't read aloud those words, then the guy has every right to give her crap about it no matter how right we think she may be.
He had every ‘right’ to give her crap, regardless. The propriety to do so, however, could be accomplished with better taste, then did this guy. And, then, when the explanation she gave for her own opinion, wasn’t good enough for him, his propensity is to keep on mucking it up.
It's arrogant for a Christian, especially an anchor, to claim Allah is not God. However, if she had mentioned the statement the video leaves out, Mediate would have looked stupid for complaining. However, since she doesn't appear to have said it at all, she's the one looking stupid for arguing what didn't happen. And she looks even more stupid trying to cover her ass.
I'm not sure if we're arguing the same point here.
Is your point that you found her statement arrogant? You are entitled to your opinion. This Kirell guy is entitled to his opinion. Gretchen Carlson is entitled to her opinion AND to the courtesy of clarifying her opinion, especially after getting publicly called out about it.
My point is that he is not dignifying his opinion by continuing to stupidly harp on the issue.
Oh, and I am only going by the Blaze graphic since I did not see this live nor watch this video, but the portion of her show this appears under is titled “My Take” and is usually made clear to be her opinion as an observant person, such as yourself here, not as a Fox News Anchor, reporting ‘news’.
 May 21, 2015 at 1:55pm
It’s nice when liberals are honest. You heard her, folks. Democrats don’t need accomplishments to get elected. In essence, all they need is the (D) after their name.
and I thought the “D” was for their highest grade average achieved during their formal education/indoctrination processes!!!
My bad, they did do very well in the indoctrination process thingy!
You soooo nailed it.
'Obama didn't have any accomplishment's either', they proudly said. As if it were a badge of honor that he didn't accomplish anything.
Democrats honestly believe that once you say that you care for the poor, you've accomplished a lot.
nah..come on...the last three D to run or be Pres had at least a C- GPA in college...some even as high as a C+...
now of course that doesn't include the high school years or earlier..
we know that our current Messiah did after all hang out with the Shroom Gang, cut class, and was baked all day while playing b-ball (his own accounts say so)..must have been rough at the $15K/year price tag at Punahou in Oahu..he was after all, you know, a Poo black child faced with the Racist Whiteman holding him down..or was that just his RICH White grandparents footing the bill...oh nevermind...it doesn't matter anyway now...
I mean he even made it into Occidental and FLUNKED OUT before the end of his second year...(we don't have the official transcripts but he at least admitted to this)...
Then he managed to get into Columbia -WOW, amazing for someone that FAILED at another college. Even though NOBODY say one professor seems to EVER remember him being in a classroom or taking a test..nobody!
YET..he then managed to get into Harvard Law and become the 1st Black head of the Law Review WITHOUT EVER writing an opinion piece or being published AS IS REQUIRED by the Law Review...well it was a Co-leadership I believe they admitted that too...
So just to recap...we haven't had a President with a better than average GPA since Clinton, which isn't saying much because he might have slept his way to an A...never know with him...
Because the (D) only can rise after they have passed from sight?
 May 21, 2015 at 10:44am
“Don’t start bashing on her for shaming her child. That 13-year old shamed her mother…”
 May 21, 2015 at 10:42am
I said good-bye to Dave about 20 years ago. This was a non-event for me.
 May 21, 2015 at 10:40am
I don’t know who was arguing with me about this before but tell me an ass-kicking wouldn’t solve this situation right away? Ass-kickings are underrated.
"I don’t know who was arguing with me about this before but tell me an ass-kicking wouldn’t solve this situation right away? Ass-kickings are underrated."
Then the dirtbags will call the cops and scream
'assault', and sue for damages.
Far simpler solution, change the laws. Non rent payment should be 15 days and they are physically thrown out.
If they resist then you are allowed to use physical force to defend yourself.
Cut off power, Cut off gas. Host a lot of dog adoption events right in the yard.
Fortherecord, that is the essence of the problem here... there are so many laws that are designed initially to protect good people in bad situations but scum like this learn to take advantage of it.... Cops should be able to show up and walk away when they see the situation...
and bring guns.
If that hag did that with my property I would brand her on the forehead with a mirrored image of the words "Louisville Slugger"
CJnME, that’s what they want you to do.
Just be prepared to be branded “my biotch” by somebody named Bubba after they file charges against you for aggravated assault, and then you lose the property after getting your azz handed to you when they bring a civil lawsuit.
It’s apparent the Menjivars didn’t do much if any “research” BEFORE they “rented” the space to these squatters given their track record. I really don’t feel sorry for them when these kinds of situations can be so easily avoided, most times with just a simple phone call to a previous landlord. No legit references, no keys, real simple.
Direct assault is risky. Better to have friends -- unknown to the dirtbags -- do the deed, Needs some thought & preparation up front to ensure your friends run no risk. And YOU should be somewhere else with a solid alibi.
The only time this happened to me ... somehow their car had two tires slashed, and something turned their car's rear window nearly opaque overnight. To me, it looked like it was done with glass etching cream (available in most hobby stores), but of course that's only a guess on my part. No telling what the neighborhood kids are doing at 4 am.
It was suggested to me that dropping a copperhead through their mail slot might discourage further occupancy, but of course that would be very illegal.
If the unfortunate vandalism to their car hadn't persuaded them that it was a bad neighborhood to stay in, I might have planted a few dozen of my Vicodin or morphine tablets in their car in the middle of the night and had someone drop a dime to the cops.
One might also have a cooperative friend let them know of a great rental property available soon, so they can start on their next sucker. Once they arrive with their possessions, however, no one has a clue what they're talking about. Another landlord, or a friend, or a relative might be happy to help out on this. Plan well, and be creative. These dirtbags deserve your best efforts.
One simply has to be just as sneaky and ugly as they are, or (preferably) more so.
Do your worst! http://youtu.be/Yto-qHX7LHA
Have to do it when you first discover them. "They invaded my home and threatened my life"
We may have the same problem getting Odumbo out of the White House...
Why hasn't anyone turned off the utilities to the upstairs (yes, it can always be done)? And how tough is it to drill out a lock? Seems like no one is actually trying.
 May 21, 2015 at 10:37am
It’s easy for the left to ridicule conservatives when we give a guy like Donald Trump the benefit of the doubt.
In case you haven’t noticed, Donald Trump is a leftist. He goes on Fox News and other right leaning venues spewing idiocies which are then attributed to the entire right. His goal is to make us all look stupid. His goal is to make sure Democrats win. And he’s doing a great job.