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Is the Tea Party Too Religious?
October 6, 2010 at 4:52pm
Caitlynsdad
As for the historians you mention, they tend to be leftists. Not all, mind you, but most. There’s been an ongoing effort to manufacture a justification for the removal of God from our history and our culture.
Jefferson may not have been a “Christian,” per se, but he wasn’t a deist, either.
Is the Tea Party Too Religious?
October 6, 2010 at 4:46pm
Caitlynsdad, I was actually responding to MrButcher. It was my fault for not naming him in my reply. I apologize.
Deism tends to propose the notion of a Creator and Ruler of the Universe that in no way meddles, interferes, or participates in the affairs of His creation. An example would be building and starting a car engine, then walking away from it.
Is the Tea Party Too Religious?
October 6, 2010 at 4:39pm
In case their is any doubt, the previous reply was directed to Okpulot, not FamilyOfSix.
Is the Tea Party Too Religious?
October 6, 2010 at 4:36pm
I must admit that I rather expected your response to be at least somewhat intelligent and less abrasive. It’s a fault. I generally give folks the benefit of the doubt when it comes to being couth.
And, I forget who made the observation earlier, but you are most definitely hypersensitive. Perhaps you have a maturity issue or two. Are you sure this is the right forum for you? There have got to be plenty of teen blogs out there you could partake in. You may find that atmosphere more agreeable. They generally think they know everything, that they’re geniuses and wonderful, not to mention, witty – all while engaging in intimate discussions of the apparel choices of Justin Beiber.
I say, have at it!
Is the Tea Party Too Religious?
October 6, 2010 at 5:59am
…IN God…
Sorry, typo.
Is the Tea Party Too Religious?
October 6, 2010 at 5:58am
Oh, and two more things. I‘ve read some of Jefferson’s own writings. He was no Deist. I’m also quite familiar with the teachings of Jesus. He was no socialist. Centralized government and government redistribution of wealth was never spoken of nor described by him (or anyone else in the Bible, for that matter).
And, the whole “nature‘s law and nature’s God” thing, among others, were employed for the purpose of setting the groundwork for true religious freedom in this country – not a manifestation of a Deistic system of beliefs. They were all quite familiar with England (of course). The crown dictated to the people what denomination would be allowed, to the exclusion of all others. Hence, Jefferson’s ardent promotion of “separation of church and state.”
It‘s also worth noting that he didn’t write, “separation of RELIGION and state.” His work in the Virginia legislature will testify to the implications of that.
You need to bone up a little more directly on your history, my friend. I am. Quit taking the left’s word of it.
Oh, and what makes you think we hate you. I don‘t even have ’contempt’ for you. That would be arrogant.
Is the Tea Party Too Religious?
October 6, 2010 at 5:36am
Hmmm. Jefferson both believed on God AND a government that was not theocratic. How’d that happen?
This, our nation, was founded on a great many principles. Judeo-Christianity was only one, though it encompasses the others.
Is the Tea Party Too Religious?
October 6, 2010 at 5:24am
Actually, Okpulot, you may wish to consult your dictionary. Never mind, I’ll do it for you. As definition No. 1 does not directly relate to spiritual matters, we’ll refer to No. 2.
Merriam-Webster
Dogma ~ a doctrine or body of doctrines concerning faith or morals formally stated and authoritatively proclaimed by a church
“…BY A CHURCH”
Christianity is not a “church”, nor is it an “organized religion.” Catholic, Baptist, Methodist, Lutheran, Russian Orthodox, Sunni, Shiite, etc. THESE are churches and are examples of organized religion. Looking for “dogma?” Consult THEM.
Christianity is not dogmatic. Churches, however, tend to be.
Oh, and please, if you’re going to try to wax intellectual and throw your hemispheres around, prepare better, so that you are a little more up to the task.
‘Nuff said.
Is the Tea Party Too Religious?
October 6, 2010 at 5:08am
True. Either you believe in something or you don’t. The “don’t” category encompasses a lot, though: deniers, skeptics, doubters, those who are simply ‘not sure’, etc.
What one DOES or DOESN’T do as a result of their faith, is a separate issue entirely.
Although, atheism is a leap of faith, too, really. Man-made Global Warming, the Theory of Evolution, etc. also require a leap of faith, as they are without proof. And look at the ZEAL with which they express and defend THEIR faith. Many even wish to imprison or execute ‘non-believers.’
Is the Tea Party Too Religious?
October 6, 2010 at 4:59am
oops, sorry for the repeat