CommentsDisplaying Mr._Proud_Conservative's 10 most recent comments.

• Atheist Students Encourage Christians to Exchange Their Bibles for…Pornography

  April 6, 2012 at 11:01am

  In reply to Git-R-Done.

  @DissentNow:

  You say you can‘t have morals unless they’re based or founded on something and you say that your morals are based on humanity. Well humanity is constantly changing and has no foundation or basis for it’s morals, but I do believe people have “rules or habits of conduct with reference to standards of right and wrong” A.K.A. morals, they’re are just not based or founded in anything.

  I mean, If I say I believe killing is wrong because I base my morality on humanity, but then say I believe abortion is ok based on that same humanity-based morality, while someone else believes neither is ok based on humanity’s morality, who is right?

  Also, there is only so much I can take of you making accusations without backing them up, since I can’t even argue any of it. I mean if I were to say you have no right to tell people what is moral since your a murderer and a rapist, then you ask me to prove it and I just say “Oh you, don’t play dumb” and then accuse you of also stealing, how does that make me right?

• Atheist Students Encourage Christians to Exchange Their Bibles for…Pornography

  April 6, 2012 at 10:40am

  In reply to Ohio50patriot.

  @DissentNow:

  Excellent, now keeping in mind that you agree with my final assumption that the universe could only have come about two ways, either by a designer or by chance. Assuming there is no evidence for or against either theory, it would be a 50/50 chance of either happening. Now assume that I give you evidence against one, the less likely one theory looks the more likely the other looks, when there are only two possible theories.

  Now let’s compare my above point with my previous analogy. In both statements we know there are only two possibilities, “Person A” with “Chance” and “Person B” with “A Designer”, we have certain clues against “Person A or Chance” that make “Person B or A Designer” more likely.

  Now keeping all that in mind let’s remember what you asked for, proof. What is the definition of proof?

  Proof: The evidence or argument that compels the mind to accept an assertion as true.

  Now, if after seeing and thinking on everything that THGIC and Ohio50Patriot have shown you and you feel that you can still say that you aren’t even .0001% more sure of Intelligent Design then fine, they haven’t given you proof. On the other hand, if they have convinced you even in the slightest, you must admit they have shown proof for their theory.

• Atheist Students Encourage Christians to Exchange Their Bibles for…Pornography

  April 4, 2012 at 10:23pm

  In reply to Git-R-Done.

  @DissentNow:

  I‘m not grasping at straws I’m stating facts. Git-R-Done stated “Atheists don’t have any morals that are based on anything.” you said he stated this “Atheists don’t have any morals”. I’m just trying to keep everyone here honest, what’s wrong with that? Are you saying that it is impossible for me to believe that you have morals, while also believing they aren’t based on anything? Not that I do, I believe they are based on something, just not something absolute.

  Pointing to religion and saying “well they did it too” does not make humanity any more reliable, it just shows that it corrupted religion since God doesn’t change, people who try to interpret it do.

  Let me get this straight, you can say this “I also get my morals from the bible and, as a result, i like nothing more than murdering entire villages ( men, women, and infants ) and raping their underaged virgin girls.”, and then when I ask you to substantiate it, all you have to do is insult my knowledge of the Bible as well as most Christians and you magically win the argument? How about you find the verses you’re talking about, or stop making claims you refuse to back up.

  How hard is it to say go look in Numbers and then give me a chapter and a verse?

• Atheist Students Encourage Christians to Exchange Their Bibles for…Pornography

  April 4, 2012 at 9:55pm

  In reply to Ohio50patriot.

  @DissentNow:

  Even if I were to agree that my attempt to simplify my argument was like “comparing apples to oranges”, which I don’t, you never made an argument against my original point. It seems your having a hard time grasping my train of thought, so let me try to better explain it and then you can tell me where you differ.

  First, I assume that the universe had a beginning. Second, I assume that since the universe had a beginning it had to have been created. Third, since I assume that the universe had to have been created I must conclude that it was either created by a designer or by chance.

  Now if you disagree with any of those assumptions then tell me which one and why so we can better debate the topic at hand, if you agree with all them then we are essentially debating whether we came about by chance or design.

  I await your response, God bless.

• Atheist Students Encourage Christians to Exchange Their Bibles for…Pornography

  April 4, 2012 at 8:39am

  In reply to Ohio50patriot.

  @DissentNow:

  Science is far broader subject than a laboratory with beakers and test tubes. Mathematical probabilities can be scientific evidence for a theory, especially when using them in conjunction with biology, as I did.

  I admitted already that I could not prove my theory, I was simply providing evidence for it. I mean, there are only two ways everything we see could have been created by chance(a.k.a. not designed) or by a designer. It follows that without any evidence for either side the chance of either happening is 50/50. Now if I were to provide evidence against chance happening it would in fact boost the chance of design happening.

  Think of it this way, you don’t know who your father is, but you do know it is either person A or person B. Now if someone were to show you evidence against person A being your father, such as being a different race, being far shorter than you, different eye or hair color, ect. are you telling me you wouldn’t change the scales from 50/50 to even 49/51? That thoroughly disproving person A as your father would have no bearing on the chances of person B being your father, even though you know it can only be one of the two?

• Atheist Students Encourage Christians to Exchange Their Bibles for…Pornography

  April 4, 2012 at 8:13am

  In reply to Git-R-Done.

  @Anse, Encinom, DissentNow:

  I do believe you are misrepresenting Git-R-Done’s claim. He did not state “Atheists don’t have any morals” as you try to insinuate DissentNow by taking only half of his quote, he said “Atheists don’t have any morals that are based on anything.”. As you can see it is one complete sentence and thus should be kept in context.

  Now onto the actual argument of Git-R-Done’s claim, which you partly answered. You say you get your morals from humanity and shared human experience, but not to long ago humanity was ok with forced slavery and women not having equal rights. Was that morality ok back then since humanity didn’t see it as wrong? Who is to say killing someone is wrong, the majority?

  Also, as much as I enjoy you three rambling about how the bible says this and that, without providing verses to back it up, I would rather you hurry up and google them, as you have no doubt been waiting to do, so I can actually respond.

• Atheist Students Encourage Christians to Exchange Their Bibles for…Pornography

  April 3, 2012 at 11:54pm

  In reply to Ohio50patriot.

  You seem to have misunderstood my statement, so let me clarify.

  There are essentially two ways we could have come to be and they are by chance or by design. I’ve shown you evidence against chance so that would imply that design has a greater possibility of being true. It may not prove my theory but it is in fact proof of my theory and is scientific, which is what you asked for.

  As for the aliens comment, even if I were to admit that aliens could transcend time and space, (which is ridiculous since aliens are defined as coming from space), be all powerful, be all knowing, ect. it wouldn’t disprove Intelligent Design nor make them any less like god. They would still be god they would just be aliens as well, I mean just because someone is a father doesn‘t mean he can’t be a husband as well.

• Atheist Students Encourage Christians to Exchange Their Bibles for…Pornography

  April 3, 2012 at 10:51pm

  In reply to Ohio50patriot.

  @DissentNow:

  OhioPatriot did give you scientific evidence of Intelligent design though. He stated that attaining complex things such as sight and hearing by chance is nearly impossible when looking at the probability side of it and stated that it is more likely to have been designed by a god.

  As for your comment on “why couldn’t it have been aliens?”. Well who put the aliens there to make us? I mean this Alien that you speak of would have to be all powerful, transcend time and space, be all knowing, ect. which would essentially make him no longer an alien, but the god your saying doesn’t exist.

• Planned Parenthood Rejects $500,000 Donation from Shock Author Tucker Max

  April 3, 2012 at 10:19pm

  In reply to IronMan29.

  @Encinom:

  Actually, a “lump of cells” is very broad term and anything from a full grown person to an unborn one could be classified as such, while a scab on the other hand, no matter the placement, can not be used to classify another person, unless of course your using different definitions for “person” and “scab”.

• Atheist Leader Calls Contraception a ‘Constitutional Right’ & Dubs the Bible a ‘Grim Fairy Tale’

  March 28, 2012 at 10:12pm

  In reply to kentuckypatriot.

  @GrubMeister:

  What of the people like me who already don’t rely on those things, but rely on God?