White House Press Secretary Jay Carney for the second day in a row clashed with ABC News reporter Jonathan Karl, this time over current budget negotiations between President Barack Obama and Republicans in Congress.
Karl began with a very simple, "yes or no" question: "Is the president willing to engage in budget negotiations with the Republicans if the government is still shut down?"
Here's the long-winded response he received from Carney, as transcribed by Mediaite's Andrew Kirell:
“I think the president has been very clear on that. If the Republicans think — or the Tea Party that is driving Republican decision-making — thinks they can extract concessions by punishing the American people, by punishing the American economy in order to get what they want, the answer is no. The president is meeting with House Republicans today. [...] But they will not, whether it’s Obamacare or tax breaks for millionaires or any other of their possible demands, they’re not going to get it in exchange for funding the government in a CR that was set by Republicans. Remember, the whole point of a short-term CR, as proposed by the speaker, originally, was to allow for time to have budget negotiations. so what’s the rationale for refusing to do that in order to have budget negotiaitons? There is none. It’s spite. It’s deliberate harm to average folks out there, some of them whom are directly affected because they can’t go to work, others who are affected because they can’t get a small business loan or they can’t get access to services that are important to them. There is macroeconomic harm done the longer the government is shut down, and there is no logical rationale for it. And I would say they’re doing harm to the American people, they’re doing harm to the American economy. And by all accounts they’re doing harm to the Republican Party. Which is bad for America. We need two strong parties that can work together and not be in a situation where one faction of one house of one branch of government is forcing shutdowns or default.”
"That was a very long answer to a yes or no question," Karl pressed. "I just want to be sure I got it right. The president will not engage in budget negotiations with the Republicans until the government is reopened. Is that his position?"
WASHINGTON, DC - OCTOBER 10: White House Press Secretary Jay Carney talks to reporters during the daily press briefing at the White House October 10, 2013 in Washington, DC. Carney said he could not comment about a proposal by House Republicans to temporarily raise the federal debit limit and begin negotiations on the budget without seeing an acutal bill. Credit: Getty Images
However, Carney remained evasive. He said the White House's "position is clear" and Republicans "out to turn on the lights" and "pay our bills."
"Why is the price of negotiations … doing harm to the American people, and doing harm to the American economy, and threatening the global economy? It’s preposterous," Carney added, though he never directly answered Karl's question.
Karl then pointed out that Republicans are proposing a six-week extension in order to provide time for budget negotiations while the government is shut down.
Carney dismissed the option, saying House Republicans haven't put forth a real plan and the White House isn't willing to do harm to the economy and "punish the American people" as leverage.