Audio: Alabama Dem Shocks Radio Audience With His Support for a Man Marrying a ‘Little Mule’

On Thursday, TheBlaze covered the story of Alvin Holmes, the Alabama state representative who offered to pay $100,000 in cash to anyone who could show him “a bunch of whites” who had adopted black babies in Alabama. TheBlaze also reported that a rally was held on Wednesday, demonstrating what Holmes did not believe existed — a large group of white and mixed-race families that had adopted children of color.

Alvin Holmes

As previously reported, after Wednesday’s successful rally on the steps of the State House, the event’s organizer Beverly Owings and her husband Jeromy were guests on WVAS, a local radio station. The Owings’ interview was reportedly extended past the scheduled 30-minute time in order to handle the unusually large crush phone calls from listeners.

One of the callers was Holmes himself. During the five minutes that he was on the radio, he made some additional statements that, according to Beverly Owings, had radio host Rob Taylor shaking his head in disbelief.

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Holmes did not start his call to the radio show by talking about white families adopting black children. Instead, he attempted to focus the discussion on interracial marriage, claiming, “First of all, my statement, that I made was that the majority of white people in Alabama was against interracial marriage.”

The state representative said his belief is based on a November 2000 vote in which Alabama voters overturned a 100-year-old law that prohibited interracial marriage, but which Holmes claimed a “majority of whites” voted against. That 14-year-old vote is apparently what he’s still basing his opinions on today.

Holmes then followed his claims of racism among his state’s white population with something very bizarre about his own beliefs on marriage.

“Now, I’m for interracial marriage. I’m for same-sex marriage. I’m the one that introduced the bill to have same-sex marriage. I don’t care who marry who. If a man meet a little mule and he wanna get married to the little mule, as long as he and the little mule get along all right, that’s fine with me. It doesn’t bother me any kind of way.”

When Barbara Owings tried to point out that the 2000 vote on interracial marriage was not related to the issue of white families adopting black children, Holmes delivered another line.

“Do you think the white people of Alabama would let me adopt a white baby?” he asked. The host and guests in the paused for a moment before Holmes continued, “Do you think the white folks in Alabama, the white authorities will permit Alvin Holmes to adopt a white baby in Alabama? Now just answer that yes or no.”

Owings responded to Holmes’ question with a “yes” — Holmes laughed at her response — but she also added, “I will tell you, after what we went through in the adoption process, if I had made the negative, racist statements that you have made, then no, they would not have allowed me to adopt a biracial child.”

The animated conversation bounced back and forth between Beverly and Jeromy Owings and Holmes with the representative playing the race card while the Owings’ pointed out that Wednesday’s rally was a great representation of parents who adopt without thought of skin color. Holmes dismissed the gathering, saying, “You can get a little handful of folks to any kind of rally … you can have a rally for Mussolini.”

At this point, the radio host stepped in to say, “OK, Mr. Holmes, you all agree to disagree.” The call ended with the representative announcing, “I’m gonna have to go, because I have another meeting to go to.”

Listen to the unedited audio here. Holmes’ comments begin at the 2:00 mark.

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