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Reflecting on Roe: Pro-Life is Not a Trend

Chelsen Vicari and Alison Howard are policy analysts with Concerned Women for America, the nation’s largest public policy women’s organization. Alison  […]
Chelsen Vicari and Alison Howard are policy analysts with Concerned Women for America, the nation’s largest public policy women’s organization. Alison Howard is the Communications Coordinator and Assistant to the CEO at Concerned Women for America. She is a graduate of Liberty University's School of Communications and former intern at Fox News Channel. She is a frequent blog contributor for numerous conservative outlets. Follow her on Twitter @alisonhoward1. Chelsen Vicari is the Online Communications Strategist at Concerned Women for America. She received her Masters of Arts in Government from Regent University. She is a frequent blog contributor for numerous conservative outlets. Follow on Twitter @ChelsenVicari
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Forty years ago today, people were wearing their platform shoes, listening to disco in their muscle cars, and abortion lovers were celebrating Roe v. Wade. Fast-forward your eight track to today and you’ll see Roe in a different light. The pro-abortion crowd is changing their tune like they changed hairstyles. You see, for them, being pro-choice was the fad, but it’s not a trend that pro-lifers follow. Don’t get us wrong, we celebrate the transformation from Pong to Wii, but as pro-lifers, our views are not eligible for an upgrade.

The U.S. Supreme Court’s destructive decision, Roe v. Wade, granted pro-choice women a quick fix to unplanned pregnancies with unlimited access to abortions.  Meanwhile, pro-life advocates continue to uphold the Declaration of Independence’s life-affirming covenant that, “All men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness.”

The notion that a woman’s choice is non-existent if abortion is unavailable makes a good sound bite, but it has warped the value of life, destroyed relationships, distorted morality, and redefined women’s issues in American politics.

We witnessed abortion activists place the so-called “reproductive rights” issue at the forefront of presidential platforms last year, essentially telling women that it should be their only political concern. The Left sold women a bill of goods under the guise of conservatives’ so-called “war on women,” and they won the election. Some women bought that lie, but even more are now recognizing the realities of abortion.

The real war on women’s health comes in the form of physical, emotional, and psychological scars left over from abortion. Women who undergo an abortion have an 81 percent increase in risk of mental health problems, according to a new study by leading American researcher Dr. Priscilla Coleman of Bowling Green State University. This is born out in the counseling world. In fact according to Safe Haven, a ministry dedicated to serving post-abortion women, Post Abortion Syndrome is the most common disorder they treat. Abortion has also been linked with increased chances of depression, doubling chances of breast cancer, ectopic pregnancies, drug and alcohol abuse, and women who have an abortion are six times more likely to commit suicide.[1]  “Legal” has certainly not meant “safe.”

As the saying goes, “once you know, you can’t unknow.” You can’t unsee the ultrasound, and you can’t unfeel the loss of life.

The sanctity of life is written on our hearts, and Americans know it. That’s why pro-life activists are winning with 56 percent of Americans taking a pro-life position and 83 percent seeking harsher restrictions on abortion clinics. And today’s kids are even more pro-life than their parents. Despite intense pressure from pro-abortion lobbyists disguised as teachers and school administrators, 72 percent of teens in America believe abortion is morally wrong. Imagine that. The so-called “Me, Me, Me Generation” caring about the nearly 4,000 unborn lives lost daily. They are the ones who get the late-night text from a friend in crisis, nervous about the chance of pregnancy. This is the generation who has the easiest access to abortion-on-demand, yet they are the ones choosing life more than ever. The pendulum has swung.

Attitudes have changed in large part because the abortion debate has shifted. No longer are we disputing science in the public arena. Medical science is increasingly affirming the pro-life message. The prevalence of prenatal ultrasounds has allowed the general public a window into the womb, and we are no longer arguing about a “blob of tissue.”  Even the liberal bastion, Time Magazine, admits that the pro-life “cause has been aided by scientific advances that have complicated American attitudes about abortion.”

Critics may say that pro-life advocates only care about the unborn and that once they’re born, we neglect to provide support. But it is the pro-life ministries, charities, and non-profits who offer long-term comfort, support, and love to women in crisis. In the United States alone, there are 2,500 crisis pregnancy centers offering sonograms, pregnancy tests, parenting classes, STD testing, after-abortion recovery counseling, and simple love and support to women.

Concerned Women for America is working at both the federal and state level to change hearts and minds by simply taking care of women. Our success is reflected by the record-high 92 new pro-life state laws passed to save the lives of women and their unborn babies in 2011, as reported by Planned Parenthood’s think tank, the Guttmacher Institute.

We, as young women, are grateful to women who’ve gone before us in the pro-life movement and spoken up for the true well-being of women. Our side does not see the same infighting currently unfolding within the pro-choice realm. While young abortion activists are abandoning the “pro-choice” label and their senior leaders, we pro-lifers of all ages unite in solidarity to the truth that Pro-Life is Pro-Woman.

So as abortion activists scramble to catch up, the pro-life movement is moving forward with added strength. For us, pro-life is not just a hashtag, it’s a life-long commitment.



[1] Gissler M et al. , “Suicides after Pregnancy in Finland, 1987-94; Register Linkage Study,” British Medical Journal, 1996; 313: 1431-34.

 

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Comments (44)

  • He isit
    Posted on January 24, 2013 at 11:39pm

    I believe we have lived much of the Bibles revelations and the slaughter of unborn children is part of that prophecy. We have had worldwide war in the middle east for over a decade, weve had worldwide economic crisis, world governments are in place, hurricanes, floods and earthquakes as foretold, oil spills and nuclear waste in the oceans, and nearly all of us have suffered from this somehow. Many are comparing obama to Jesus and he compares himself to pharos (false messiah), and he was crowned king last monday. The truth and the light of the world has returned from heaven in the sense that millions have awakened to the evil that is corrupting us and the debt that is enslaving us and our grandchildren (two headed serpeant). So the only thing left is to call them out and threaten mass strikes and non-compliance and if they want war God will take care of them.

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  • vaman
    Posted on January 23, 2013 at 1:54pm

    The christian ultra-right is anti-abortion, but pro war so their values are skewed. Further, the “god” given right to pursue happiness as quoted in the article only applies if your chosen happiness falls directly in line with fundamentalists and their warped view of the world. If not, then the fanatics find a convenient bible passage to criticize and be hateful.

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    • bonesiii
      Posted on January 23, 2013 at 2:08pm

      Pro self defense. Which protects life. To put it in terms even the simple can hopefully understand — bad guy wants to hurt you, so you have to stop him. Sometimes that takes war, yes, but you make it sound like we support ANY war. No, that’s the philosophy of conquerers, similar to Hitler’s.

      Both just wars and the right to life protect people. That is consistent.

      It is liberals who are inconsistent — for example, they will try to stand up for a woman’s right to control her own body, but deny the child that same right.

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    • Perkins
      Posted on January 23, 2013 at 7:19pm

      Bones,

      Don’t forget, many scream for the right to “choice” on abortion, but not the right to choice on 16oz soft drinks, or joining labor unions, or owning firearms, or etc.

      At the same time, they do not seem to be able to conceive of a position held based on principles, as you are pointing out, that might appear contradictory on the surface but stem from the same beliefs. The more I read their comments here and on huffpo, the more I see how shallow some people are in their thinking, and character.

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  • todd147
    Posted on January 23, 2013 at 1:44pm

    If you look at what the left now represents, it has become good verses evil. You got people in the regime basically encouraging expecting mothers to abort. Total gun control won’t happen short of a very bloody civil war. And not only considering gay marriage, but pushing there agenda. I think they should just rename themselves the Amorites. Our nation is leaning more and more towards that.

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  • Locked
    Posted on January 23, 2013 at 8:52am

    Clarification:

    “Women who undergo an abortion have an 81 percent increase in risk of mental health problems, according to a new study by leading American researcher Dr. Priscilla Coleman of Bowling Green State University.”

    The study actually says that there’s a 10% increase in the risk of mental health problems related to the abortion itself. The 81% rate is the mental health incidence rate of women who undergo abortion. In other words, if you have mental health issues you’re more likely to have an abortion; if you have an abortion, you’re 10% more likely to have issues after than the average woman.

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    • Balpit
      Posted on January 24, 2013 at 8:45pm

      Ironic how “women’s health” is another euphemism for abortion, huh?

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  • Box55
    Posted on January 23, 2013 at 7:44am

    How can someone justify murder of a child as a right? How about a woman’s right to say no to sex or to be responsible for their actions! These same people are ready to infringe on our rights to own firearms due to the Sandy Hook tragedy, but they have the “right” to kill children when it is serves their purposes? We are a lost society.

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  • Live2BeFree
    Posted on January 23, 2013 at 7:41am

    Actually BONESIII, you really need to go back and read your own words and see the hypocrisy in them. Your RELIGION tells you what to think. Again, not everyone is Christian and have differing ideas as when life begins. You are NOT standing up for everybody if you are taking the WOMAN’s rights away now are you? Again, I say hypocrite. I also noticed you didn’t say anything about how many people the Christians MURDERED in the Crusades because of different beliefs now did you? Hypocrite. Your argument about the police is non valid. They serve and protect AFTER the fact. Did the police do any good for that man that beat for a cell phone? Did they save that woman in GA when a guy broke into her house? No, SHE shot him. I also notice you didnt say a damn thing about the 13 year old girls who’s father molested her? She has no rights not to carry the sin to term? Hypocrite. Then you all want to sit here and bitch because there are so many people on welfare because people cant take care of themselves. HYPOCRITES! Im not saying to use it as a form of birth control BUT your beliefs do NOT give you the right to play God with someones body. (See Catholics with the Crusades for MURDER instead) Do I think government should be funding abortion? ABSOLUTELY NOT! but I dont feel you get the right to play God either. If you want to then pay for all the ones on welfare that you complain about. Hypocrite.

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    • bonesiii
      Posted on January 23, 2013 at 12:38pm

      “read your own words and see the hypocrisy in them. Your RELIGION tells you what to think. Again, not everyone is Christian and have differing ideas as when life begins.”
      Don’t you think it’s cruel to say that a human’s life only has value if someone holds to a particular religion? I’m all for supporting Christianity over anything else (since I know that — and why — it’s true ;)), but this is one case where I think it should not need to be about religion. Do you support murder because you’re nonreligious too? Why not rape? If you really have no morals because you’re atheist, then why give the mother any rights either?

      Also, that’s a bit of a straw man though I can see how you’d misunderstand. “Life” includes even the least human microbes (germs). Technically if for example you bleed, for a time some of your blood cells well be alive outside the body. What begins at conception (and this is what science has proven) is the -uniqueness- of that human life. That becomes the only cell with that DNA code. It has that distinction from all the cells in the woman’s body, putting the lie to the argument that it is just part of that.

      What science (if you exclude God’s testimony from science, which again seems unreasonable to me) hasn’t told us yet is whether it is wrong to kill that single-celled human, or when multi-celled but no neurons yet. But we should all be able to agree to err on the side of caution. No?

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    • bonesiii
      Posted on January 23, 2013 at 12:46pm

      “You are NOT standing up for everybody if you are taking the WOMAN’s rights away now are you?”
      Likewise, you are not standing up for everybody if you are taking the child’s right to life away, are you? Also, if people don’t even have the right to life, then why should any other rights exist? Besides, if you think rights derive instead from the whims of rulers, then there would be nothing wrong with changing them.

      “I also noticed you didn’t say anything about how many people the Christians MURDERED in the Crusades because of different beliefs now did you?”
      You didn’t say anything about the atheists/evolutionists/etc. who murdered, such as Hitler. My view on this question is that there is only one totally correct view — faith in and obedience to the actually existing transcendant God who is Love. If you do that, you have an objective basis never to harm others. Any straying from the God who is Love will logically result in non-loving actions. Those “Christians” were being disobedient in that way, just as atheists who sin are being disobedient. Their actions really lay at the blame of sinfulness just like atheism, so they “belong” to you, not to me.

      “police is non valid. They serve and protect AFTER the fact.”
      Not necessarily, but this logic works here too. The right to life can be protected after the fact of conception. :) (And the argument is valid; I only ever use valid arguments, being a logician. ;))

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    • bonesiii
      Posted on January 23, 2013 at 12:57pm

      “Did the police do any good for that man that beat for a cell phone?”
      Think, man. All this shows is that it’s possible for authorities to be in the wrong — and I’m saying that allowing abortion is also wrong (especially funding it; that’s the same basic thing as beating a man; the government causing harm to people).

      “Did they save that woman in GA when a guy broke into her house? No, SHE shot him.”
      I’m as pro-self-defense as they come, but this is irrelevant because we’re talking about the government’s laws. Also, are you saying only those capable of self-protection have any rights? What about the highly mentally handicapped? Should they be slaughtered too? And what objectively makes that rule any less arbitrary than any other?

      “the 13 year old girls [sic] who’s father molested her? She has no rights not to carry the sin to term?”
      You’re thinking with your emotions — but emotions arbitrarily only turned on for some people, discriminating against others. What about that child? Does she not have a right to life? Two wrongs does not make a right (and I DID bring this up in another post). Besides, if the mother can kill because she has power over the child, why not even allow the man to rape her because he has the power? Are you thus pro-rape?

      “bitch because there are so many people on welfare because people cant take care of themselves.”
      Er… it’s the ones that CAN take care of themselves we complain about. ;)

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    • bonesiii
      Posted on January 23, 2013 at 1:06pm

      “Im not saying to use it as a form of birth control BUT your beliefs do NOT give you the right to play God with someones body.”
      This logic DEFEATS abortion, because the abortionist plays God with someone’s body — the child’s.

      Think, man, think! You have a brain — whether you think it evolved or was created, USE it! And if you can’t, at least be loving to others! How horrible it must be to live so callously about the safety of others.

      Do I like that it’s possible for a woman to be raped and get pregnant? No. But if I was one, I would carry the baby to term because I love everybody. It’s not that child’s fault I would have been raped, and killing her or him doesn’t undo what would have happened to me — if anything it would make it worse as I’d always know I myself did something wrong, where previously I would have been an innocent victim.

      It’s not popular for men to speak so freely on this matter, but as a logician and truthseeker I don’t care about popularity but right and wrong — and as a fellow human, I want what’s bests for all. It is unimaginable that you could live with yourself any other way.

      Now you would argue, I’m sure, that in this case one right is opposed to another — and I agree, but the right to life outweighs, does it not?

      Also, what I want most here is easy transplant technology so no rape victim has to carry to term. :) I wish you’d spent your energy seeking that rather than murder.

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    • bonesiii
      Posted on January 23, 2013 at 1:22pm

      Correction: Wait — I only heard the headline vaguely, but I think I misinterpreted the thing with the cellphone, sorry. Anywho, police certainly do help those who would have been hurt by the criminals they stop, Mr. Anarchy. ;) Not rocket science…

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  • flipper1073
    Posted on January 23, 2013 at 6:10am

    While I Agree with the Premise that life begins at conception.
    The sad Fact is that in America Today we are moving in the
    Other Direction.
    Post Birth Abortions although very rare are Legal
    Partial Birth Abortion are Legal. Late Term Abortions are Legal.
    All of these are Infanticide / Murder an should be Prosecutable Crimes.
    But They’re Not. All due in large part to Roe vs Wade.
    An Taxpayer Funded Planned Parenthood.
    So if your Goal is the same as Mine to get to the Fewest Abortions
    possible. You’re never going to get to Zero.
    Before Roe vs Wade Abortions happened (back alley, coat hanger)
    I no way in hell want to go back to those days.
    So how to we change the direction we’re going ?
    First You have to change the Hearts an Minds of Americans.
    Babies are Wonderful an bring Joy to your life.
    Not something you dispose of because it’s inconvenient.
    On the Political Side We need Supreme Court Justices who
    will have the Backbone to Overturn Roe vs Wade.
    Which was really Stupid Law in the first place.
    Send it back to the States to Enforce Reasonable Restrictions.
    (26 weeks Viability, Parental Consent are just a couple)
    If you make this Black or White NO abortions or Unlimited Abortions.
    The Pro Choice Crowd Wins.
    Note to Republican Politicians; Say You’re Pro Life
    with exceptions for Rape, Incest or Life of the Mother.
    An move On to the Bigger more Important Issues !

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  • IanInCO
    Posted on January 23, 2013 at 12:47am

    Speaking from experience, growing up in Kansas, the pro life / pro choice movement was in my face growing up. I regret that in the mid 1990′s my girlfriend and I at the time opted for an abortion. To this day, I often think that my child would be 18 this year and it breaks my heart. We are wired to know all human life is valuable, even in the womb. It’s our society that takes advantage of the youth and convinces them it’s OK (an attempt to rewire). Trust me, it’s NOT OK. This is not an issue about a woman’s right to choose. An unborn child’s life is as equally valuable as the mothers and should equally be protected. To those that try to compare the far right / religious types to forcing their ‘values’ on others, you know it’s a weak argument. We aren’t forcing our values on anyone. We are simply the only voice the unborn has. I cannot fathom any pro choice advocate being ok with knowing they themselves could have been aborted, and they were simply lucky and didn’t draw the shortest straw. But I suppose if you are pro choice, you agree some lives are more valuable than others, and that the ‘end justifies the means’. I take solace in hearing that the youth are seeing the value of life and winds are shifting. It’s only a matter of time.

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  • bonesiii
    Posted on January 22, 2013 at 10:12pm

    I’m not that surprised about teens being more pro-life. It isn’t rocket science to realize that abortion kills people who would have been their school friends, and sometimes siblings — and could have killed -them-. The earlier generation grew up before this happened; they were safe from abortion their entire lives so it didn’t seem so personal (unless they committed it; then they are tormented by it their whole lives).

    I was lucky enough to have parents that are strongly pro-life, so I can’t begin to imagine what it must be like for a child of an abortionist to be told, “Yes, I support killing babies.”

    You know, it’s become fashionable for atheopaths to accuse believers of child abuse, but maybe it’s time we started leveling that charge at any pro-abortion parent. Is telling children the good news that they can have eternal, perfect, satisfying life with their loving Creator abusive? Obviously not.

    Is telling children that they could have been killed legally during their lifetimes, and their parents support that, psychologically abusive? Hell yeah.

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  • BellaMia7
    Posted on January 22, 2013 at 7:07pm

    Abortion is genocide – deliberate, eugenicist, race-hating genocide.

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  • GenOptimus
    Posted on January 22, 2013 at 6:30pm

    If you don’t want to have a baby then don’t have sex. Try having some respect for innocent life instead of your sexual passions.

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    • Argosy
      Posted on January 23, 2013 at 12:05am

      Great comment. At least leave it to the States, if the Left Wing Looney Blue States want it, don’t impose it on other states.

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    • LarryL2
      Posted on January 23, 2013 at 1:57pm

      That is such a ridiculous statement. Before the women’s rights movement, do you think teens didn’t have sex? Do you think teens didn’t get pregnant? Do you think teens didn’t find more dangerous ways to have an abortion? Are you really so blind to think you can simply say ‘so don’t have sex’ and that’ll do it? Come on here. Deal with reality and not some utopia of sexless teens waiting for marriage. It doesn’t happen. I would love abstinence to work but it doesn’t. And though I am not a fan of abortion, I’d rather someone had the option of a medicallly safe one then some back alley 1940′s dirty mess we used to have. We all have to remember that people have different views and what you believe doesn’t apply to everyone. That’s why YOU should have the choice for YOU. Not everyone feels the same way you do and you are not the dictator to all. So stop trying to impose what you believe and realize that it’s okay that there are differences. I have no faith that will ever happen however.

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  • iceman2
    Posted on January 22, 2013 at 5:56pm

    Saw a fascinating article, says scientists have proven that lobsters feel, and the feel when they are tossed into a boiling pot. Animal rights advocates latched onto that quickly to point out human cruelty to animals. Well, unborn babies feel when they are aborted.

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    • bonesiii
      Posted on January 22, 2013 at 10:28pm

      Yeah, what passes for “logic” among liberals is always inconsistent. IMO they do not use logic to seek true conclusions; instead they emotionally bow to social pressure to choose their opinions (generally those in the liberal complex), and sometimes look for arguments to seem to support each one. In each argument they have principles made up for that argument, and they talk about them as if they’re absolutely sacred. Yet those same principles are completely discarded in their thinking for arguments to support other (contradictory) views.

      Maybe it’s time we seriously discuss whether this is outright schizophrenia.

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  • MadisonSWVA
    Posted on January 22, 2013 at 3:20pm

    @LARRYL2 Just like you can’t be a little bit pregnant, neither can you be a little bit pro-life. You either support the murder of innocent life or you don’t. Make up your mind.

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    • searcher619
      Posted on January 22, 2013 at 3:43pm

      Stop playing with words. Fact is no one is 100% one or the other. I support a woman’s right to carry her fetus to term and either keep the baby or give it up for adoption AND I support a woman’s right to not be forced to carry a fetus to term. You seem to think when a woman has an unwanted pregnancy they stop being a person and become an incubator. Her right to choose is gone. THAT is 100% wrong.

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    • LarryL2
      Posted on January 22, 2013 at 5:07pm

      You either support a woman’s ability to decide what is best for her body or you don’t. Like I said, if you don’t want an abortion don’t have one. Don’t like birth control? Don’t use it. But you make that choice for you and you alone. It is the ultimate arrogance that you put your beliefs OVER anyone else’s.

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    • GenOptimus
      Posted on January 22, 2013 at 6:27pm

      the two people above me are baby butchers.

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    • bonesiii
      Posted on January 22, 2013 at 10:16pm

      ” You seem to think when a woman has an unwanted pregnancy they stop being a person and become an incubator. Her right to choose is gone.”
      Obvious straw man — people are always people. That’s the whole point. If you will, she “becomes two people” (if you must think of it as part of her body, which biologically you can make a case, though neurologically the baby is an individual). In reality, it is abortionists who are saying that people stop being (or don’t become) people at certain times.

      Being a Christian I can’t say what I think of such hypocrisy…

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    • bonesiii
      Posted on January 22, 2013 at 10:22pm

      Larry, don’t want to murder your dependants? Don’t want to murder your employees? Don’t want to murder your siamese twin (lol okay that’s unlikely)?

      The problem with your type of morality is it’s arbitrary. You act as if there is some kind of sacred right to controlling our own bodies, yet there is no sacred right to life. But if it’s okay to infringe on one sacred right, how can there be any at all?

      As soon as morals become arbitrary, then why should not a murderer say he has the sacred right to kill anyone he pleases? After all, he’s moving his body in certain ways (aim a gun, pull a trigger, grasp a knife and stab in a certain location) that you want to limit him.

      I’m not trying to be inflammatory — this is serious. You cannot make a logical argument for abortion without it objectively ending up in absurdity if you were consistent. And if you’re inconsistent, it isn’t logical to begin with, so you shouldn’t try to make it seem that way.

      I don’t like the fact that situations like what you’re talking about happen, but it’s just far too convenient a solution to murder to resolve it. Two wrongs don’t make a right. We should be working on other solutions — how about more advanced transplant technology for example?

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  • searcher619
    Posted on January 22, 2013 at 3:17pm

    The problem is you people want to take away a woman’s choice to abort based on your own morality and not on hard facts. the choice some women want is to NOT have the child. Not carry it to term. Now if you could surgically remove the fetus from the woman and allow it to mature in an artificial womb THEN I could support the banning of abortions since it would no longer be necessary abort the fetus to free the woman from carrying it full term. This is something I can easily see becoming a reality in the near future based on current medical advances.

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    • searcher619
      Posted on January 22, 2013 at 3:29pm

      For those interested in what i said about artificial wombs:

      http://www.realcleartechnology.com/2012/11/15/should_we_build_artificial_human_wombs_9377.html

      VERY interesting.

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    • PilgrimStuckInBizarroWorld
      Posted on January 22, 2013 at 7:27pm

      What a selfish idea! 50 million dead babies is genocide.

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    • mewnani
      Posted on January 22, 2013 at 11:19pm

      You know there is a VERY easy solution to that little problem: DON’T HAVE SEX. If you don’t want a kid don’t freaking sell your body out for your own pleasure. Get married and THEN do that stuff like we’re supposed to!

      *NOTE: This does not apply to rape victims.

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    • bonesiii
      Posted on January 22, 2013 at 11:59pm

      A women always has the choice to abort, but they should not have the LEGAL choice (“except” in the case of saving the life of the mother, which was not really considered abortion anyways), because it is murder. Just like a murderer has the choice to murder adults, or a thief to steal. We cannot REALLY take away your choice to do the wrong thing.

      Yet, to encourage doing the right thing, we can and should have laws against what is wrong.

      Also, you know full well that it is abortion that is not based on fact, at least assuming you care about others, because modern science has proven that babies are alive far earlier than they are aborted, and also that at genetic conception they are an individual.

      You could make a case that the moral argument against some abortifacients are still a bit beyond mere science (assuming you limit science arbitrarily to ignore the perfectly expert revelation from God, which of course would be foolish if you were convinced he was real), since a single-cell human doesn’t yet have brain cells, though, to be fair. And I’m fine with that because I don’t discriminate against facts. If a fact comes from God, who proved himself to me, then why should I ignore it over other facts — really, since he’s omniscient and we aren’t, we should be taking that even more seriously.

      But you don’t even need that intel if you love others without any discrimination — they’re people. Don’t murder. Simple.

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  • DJNOVA
    Posted on January 22, 2013 at 3:00pm

    Wow! This is a terrific article! Its good to see young women standing up to the Sandra Fluke’s of the world and promoting and defending the sentiments that were expressed in the Declaration of Independence. Of course, the main stream media won’t do this. More of the same from The Blaze would be much appreciated!

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  • DJNOVA
    Posted on January 22, 2013 at 2:58pm

    Wow! What a terrific article. Its good to see that there are young women out there standing up to the Sandra Flukes of the world in defense and promotion of the values that were expressed in the Declaration of Independence. Of course, the main stream media won’t run pieces like this. More of the same from The Blaze would be much appreciated!

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  • LarryL2
    Posted on January 22, 2013 at 12:39pm

    Wow, nice set of straw man arguments and lies. The only debate around reproductive rights is a women’s right to choose. If you are against birth control and abortion don’t use them. But don’t deny those who don’t share your beliefs their right to choose.

    Let me ask you this. If someone came to you and told you that you had to have an abortion, would you be outraged? There’s no difference in you telling someone else they can’t.

    The whole problem with America these days is the number of people who cannot accept that there are different beliefs and that it is OKAY. You don’t have to agree. But no one is forcing abortion on you. They are just allowing women who choose it to get it done safely under medical supervision. That you would remove that right would force women back to the back alleys where predators would take money and perform horrendous, botched jobs. Is that really what you want? Can’t you accept that other women have other beliefs regarding this? And that’s okay.

    I am not a fan of abortion but I completely support a woman’s right to choose that. Just as much as I support your right not to choose it. But don’t force your views down another’s throat. It’s like religion. Is it okay for Jews to practice their religion? Or Mormons? Or Hindus? Do you tell them to stop because they aren’t strictly Christian? Of course not. This is America. Freedom means the right to be different. Not the right for you to say your beliefs are th

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    • hatchetjob
      Posted on January 22, 2013 at 4:32pm

      I agree, LARRY, and may I also add, (for the self-righteous people out there), that sin is sin. No sin is greater than another in God’s eyes.

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    • iceman2
      Posted on January 22, 2013 at 5:51pm

      I always find it fascinating that those who believe their support of abortion is noble, have to accept the premise that suddenly, at birth, a baby is magically transformed from a lump of flesh devoid of any constitutional rights into a human being protected by the constitution. Even the most hard core pro-choicers have to admit that is arbitrary. The bill of rights is brought into this discussion, like freedom of religion. Well, if you go and rape and/or murder your neighbor in the name of religion, well, the constitution has something to say about that. As it should with mothers, even though they are mothers, they do not have the right to destroy innocent life arbitrarily. The constitution is intended to protect innocent life, even if the mother is still carrying it.

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    • GenOptimus
      Posted on January 22, 2013 at 6:39pm

      @hatchetjob Your name is very fitting considering the murder in your heart toward innocent babies.

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    • Live2BeFree
      Posted on January 22, 2013 at 9:53pm

      Larry, I agree with you 100%. See, these people are hypocrites. They want government out of their live as long as it suits their beliefs. Everyone else can go to hell. No one. Not you, the government or anyone else has the right to tell a woman what to do with HER body. Larry brought up a very valid argument…you want to force women into back alleys with the coat hanger abortions of old? Outlaw it and it will happen. No one. Not you nor the government has the right to tell someone who they cant and can love. PERIOD. You people here do the exact same thing you accuse the left of doing…interpreting the Constitution to what YOU want it to say. Hypocrites. “All men are created equal” so that doesn’t include women? Interpret away hypocrites. Tell your daughter when she gets raped at the age of 13-18 up to about 21 she is going to be forced to have the baby. I bet you scar her just as bad as allowing her to abort the rape. Tell the 13-18 year old girl who is molested by her father she has to carry that baby to term. Imagine how many times that girl has to relive those horrible nights. You all are hypocrites. The only thing that your basing your beliefs off of is your religion. Well guess what…not everyone is Christian. Speaking of….How many people did the Catholics MURDER when they found people who didn’t follow the same religion? The Crusades ring a bell? ANYONE? It all boils down to the person will be judged by who THEY believe in..NOT YOU nor GOVERN

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    • hatchetjob
      Posted on January 22, 2013 at 11:10pm

      GENOPTIMUS, Gee, did I hit a nerve? Buzz off.

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    • bonesiii
      Posted on January 23, 2013 at 12:16am

      “The only debate around reproductive rights is a women’s right to choose.”
      Wrong — there is also the reproductive rights of a baby to exist (to successfully finalize reproduction :P). After all, what about the baby’s choice? Shouldn’t the baby be allowed to grow up so that they can choose whether to live or die?

      And if it’s okay to rob the baby of the most important choice of this physical life, then why not rob the mother of her choice?

      Think of it as math. The baby’s choice outweighs the mother’s. Real life is not cut and dry. There are different moral factors that must be weighed against others. When you want something, but to get it you have to murder someone, you have the moral duty to live without it, and our laws should reflect that.

      In fact, if we’re going to use your type of logic, why not just arbitrary declare that everything you said is a lie and the only debate is about the child’s right to life? After all, that would even have Constitutional support, unlike the right to murder. Of course, ideally we would get beyond mere logic and base our choices on Love. Since murdering a child (or anyone) is not loving, then as hard as it is to accept, mothers should endure what they must to ensure that child survives. That might not feel emotionally pleasant to hear, but you know it’s true.

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    • bonesiii
      Posted on January 23, 2013 at 12:26am

      ” See, these people are hypocrites. They want government out of their live as long as it suits their beliefs. Everyone else can go to hell.”
      How can you not see that it is YOU who is the hypocrite? WE are the ones standing up for EVERYBODY, even the unborn child.

      And it’s a straw man that we want anarchy. No, the government’s job is to stop harm against others — whether police, whether the military protecting us from foreign enemies, or whether preventing a ‘doctor’ from murdering us in the womb. What we don’t want the government doing is infringing on activity that -doesn’t harm others-. Abortion harms people, in the worst way; murder.

      Does standing up for everybody inconvenience someone with an unplanned pregnancy? Well, if they are loving, no, but if they’re cold-hearted enough to commit murder, then I suppose it does, and anything that inconveniences a murderer is fine with me… Really, though, most are being duped by intense social pressure and indoctrination, which is why it’s great that many are being reached. If they go through with it, they’ll suffer far worse than what they would have endured had they birthed the baby — the knowledge that they allowed someone to murder their own child.

      Not that birthing a baby is easy (cue the “you’re one to talk” line ;)); it’s horribly painful and very inconvenient, but it’s the right thing to do and we all know it.

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