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RFK Jr. tells Musk he wants to permanently seal the US-Mexico border; links mass shootings to pharmaceutical drugs
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RFK Jr. tells Musk he wants to permanently seal the US-Mexico border; links mass shootings to pharmaceutical drugs

Robert F. Kennedy Jr. joined Elon Musk, venture capitalist David Sacks, former Democratic lawmaker Tulsi Gabbard, and others for a Twitter Spaces interview Monday to discuss many of the issues he reckons should be at the forefront of the political debate going into the 2024 presidential election.

Kennedy, running for president as a Democrat, drew the ire of the liberal media for championing so-called "right-wing ideas and misinformation" during the interview, which had more than 64,000 active listeners during the live broadcast and over 1.8 million listeners tune in since.

The New York Times, in particular, took issue with Kennedy's: expressed desire to close the U.S.-Mexico border; suggestion that there is a link between mass shootings and pharmaceutical drugs; claim that COVID-19 was "clearly a bioweapon"; and his criticism of Democrats' penchant for for war.

Guns, drugs, and Big Pharma

Kennedy clarified that he is a "constitutional absolutist."

The 69-year-old son of assassinated former U.S. Attorney General Robert F. Kennedy and nephew of assassinated former President John F. Kennedy stressed he knows firsthand the impact of gun violence but noted that the Supreme Court has made clear the meaning of the Second Amendment, which he would not impinge on.

Extra to acknowledging gun culture is deeply integrated in rural communities around the nation and that taking away Americans' guns is "not the right thing," Kennedy noted that further infringements on the Second Amendment would be rightly recognized as "part of a systematic assault on our Bill of Rights" at a time "when the Constitution has been under attack ... in an unprecedented way."

While supportive of security-hardening measures at schools as a temporary means to stymie future school shootings, Kennedy indicated that the real solution requires an understanding of the real problem, which isn't guns. After all, other countries with comparable numbers of guns per capita go without routine mass murders.

"[In] Switzerland, the last school shooting was 21 years ago. We have one every 21 hours. The one thing that we have that is different than anybody in the world is the amount of psychiatric drugs that our children are taking and our people are taking," said Kennedy.

As president, Kennedy said he would "look very closely at the role of psychiatric drugs in these events — and there are no good studies right now that should have been done years ago on this issue — because there is tremendous circumstantial evidence that those SSRIs and benzos and other drugs are doing this."

"There's something happening in our country right now that is not happening anywhere else in the world and has never happened in human history," continued Kennedy. "You have to look at some of the — almost all of these — drugs. If you look at their manufacturers' inserts, they include a side effect of homicidal and suicidal behavior. ... Prior to the introduction of Prozac, we had almost none of these events in our country and we've never seen them in human history."

Closing the border

Kennedy minced no words on the subject of American sovereignty with particular concern to the U.S.-Mexico border.

"We need to seal our border," said Kennedy. "It is a key existential function for every nation in the world to be able to control immigration at its border and having millions of people or hundreds of thousands, in this case millions of people, flowing across the border is not something any nation can or should put up with."

"Worst of all, it's created a humanitarian crisis at the border. The notion that we have an open border is now a gospel around the world so that people are flying in from all over the world, from Europe, from China, from Asia ... and being assisted by nonprofit groups and by government groups to actually make their way to the United States border within buses, and that needs to be shut down."

According to U.S. Customs and Border Protection, over 1.4 million illegal aliens stole into the country between October and April alone. Between October 2021 and September 2022, the number of southwest land border encounters was well over 2.3 million. Another 1.7 million entered illegally between October 2020 and September 2021.

Kennedy credits some of the illegal migration to bad U.S. foreign policy in South and Central America, invoking the fallout of the war on drugs and past U.S.-backed coups.

Beyond re-evaluating the country's approach to its involvement with southern nations, he stressed, "Above all, we need to seal the border," especially since illegal immigration has a profound impact on the American poor.

"We have people in this country who are poverty-stricken and who don't have access, because of the paucity of public assistance, don't even have access to public assistance. And we need to be protecting the people in this country," said Kennedy. "We don't have the capacity to support a lot of new immigrants. This huge flood of new immigrants that's coming into our cities and stressing the school systems, stressing the social service systems for ... Americans who are already struggling. It needs to be turned off."

Bioweapons and military adventurism

Kennedy said that the Democratic Party was not only captive to the pharmaceutical industry but that it has a great interest in the business of war, underscoring that President Joe Biden is a warmonger, reported the Times.

"I think the Democratic Party became the party of war," said Kennedy. "I attribute that directly to President Biden. ... He has always been in favor of very bellicose, pugnacious and aggressive foreign policy, and he believes that violence is a legitimate political tool for achieving America’s objectives abroad."

Kennedy was as critical if not more so of the war allegedly waged on the homeland.

Kennedy claimed that the CIA continued developing bioweapons in secret after the Biological Weapons Convention went into force in 1975, then took production into high gear in concert with other elements of the government after the Patriot Act was passed.

"We should shut the whole thing down. You know COVID was clearly a bioweapons problem and you saw what that did to us. What if it was a real disease? A disease that had a 50% mortality like dengue fever or Ebola or, you know, one of these other real deadly viruses. They got those in the labs too. What if that was the one that escaped? Let's shut it down around the world," said Kennedy.

Liberal media responds

The New York Times claimed Kennedy "sounded like a candidate far more at ease in the mushrooming Republican presidential contest," accusing him of using his "campaign platform — and his famous name — to promote misinformation and ideas that have little traction in his party."

The Times further suggested that Kennedy "is a longtime amplifier and propagator of baseless theories."

CNN suggested that Musk's "direct association with Kennedy ... could have significant ramifications both for Twitter as a platform and for Musk's credibility," writing off Kennedy as a "marginal candidate who espouses debunked medical claims.

While CNN framed the interview in a negative light, it did manage to note some of Kennedy's pro-liberty credentials: "Kennedy has also attacked the closing of churches, social distancing and government track-and-trace surveillance."

Rolling Stone, which has repeatedly issued false reports and libels, summarized the interview thusly: "The environmental lawyer turned conspiracy theorist — now attempting to primary President Biden for the 2024 Democratic presidential nomination — made time to discuss a wide range of his more outlandish and pseudoscientific ideas throughout a conversation that lasted nearly two and a half hours."

The interview can be heard in its entirety here:

According to a late-May CNN poll, Kennedy is second most-favored in the polls amongst prospective Democratic voters. 20% presently favor him, but he trails Biden by 40 points. The RealClear Politics average presently has Biden at 42.5 point advantage.

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