Rep. Chip Roy inconveniences CNN host with the truth after she defends the so-called border bill: 'There would be 4,999'

Rep. Chip Roy (R-Texas) delivered a much-needed reality check on Monday to those defending the Senate's so-called border bill.

One of the most contentious provisions of the bill is the migrant "encounters" threshold for a border "shutdown." Critics of the bill say the border would never close if the bill becomes law while permitting countless more migrants to enter the U.S. The bill's defenders, however, say that is false.

CNN anchor Kaitlan Collins asked Roy about the provision in a contentious interview on Monday, immediately trying to correct him when he didn't provide the answer she wanted.

"If this was in place right now, wouldn't the border be shut down, at this moment, based on this number of encounters that would launch that trigger to shut down the border?" Collins asked.

"No. In fact, what would happen is it would set sort of a de facto —" Roy began when Collins interjected.

"It would," she claimed.

"No. It would set sort of a de facto standard — right? — normalizing about 5,000 [migrants per day]," Roy shot back.

The major concern, Roy explained, is the Mexican cartels "are coordinating this all the time." He cited Eagle Pass, one of the epicenters of the border crisis. That section of border has cooled in recent days after receiving significant attention in the media. It has cooled, he explained, because the cartels — which control human smuggling routes — quickly adapt.

"What happens is the cartels — they look at it and they go, 'Oh, that ain't working there.' So guess where they're all going now? Arizona and California," Roy pointed out.

"If you set a standard of about 5,000, the cartels will go 'Ah, I get it. 4,999? You got it,'" he explained.

Collins, however, refused to accept Roy's explanation of why the migrant threshold is problematic and how the Mexican cartels will exploit it to ensure their human-smuggling business doesn't slow down.

The CNN host repeatedly told Roy, "It would shut it down."

"There would be 4,999," Roy argued.

Finally, Collins told Roy that the people who wrote the bill disagree with him, citing Sen. Kyrsten Sinema (I-Ariz.). But that's not the full truth. Sen. Chris Murphy, the Democrat who helped co-author the bill, admitted the border "never fully closes" if the bill becomes law.

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